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Re: Edith Matiba went alliance
« Reply #20 on: September 11, 2022, 12:39:39 PM »
Yes beacuse Weta was not going anywhere until he hit the ground and specifically until Mudavadi told him WE NEED TO BE REAL
You can continue with your Punditry but politics is real. There is a reason we knew Ruto will be President and Raila will would depend on rigging.
You're  a shameless cartoon who spent time here saying weta and bukusu wont deal with Ruto.
Weta proved himself in Kabuchai byelection - and Ruto knew he had to deal with him - pay him some millions and give him NA Speaker plus concede Tranzoia and Bungoma to Ford-K and a cabinet position for him.
You area pundit Im in politics. Wetas kin in my collegue we are tight like chanda na pete in 2013 he told its impossible to votw for another Kikuyu last year he told me its impossible to vote for Raila again . Reread my posts . Weta went to Ruto because Bukusus were going to vote Ruto. I did acknowledge this. How many Ford K MCAs were voted in Bungoma and Transzoia vis a vis UDA MCAs. let me know. Ive not had time to reconcile.


You pretend you are a genious but you fail to say 2007 Presidential elections were with a simple majority and then Kalonzo didnt back Raila.
Now on Ruto , He personally acknowledged they lost in 2007. He infact didnt even back Raila and the motivation to back up Uhuru in 2013 was simply premised on the loss of 2007. You see why you are not Ruto . He is a visionary he said people say GEMA cannot back another candidate but he believes in Kenya where any tribe cam back up anyone come 2022 he won GEMA. And Im not tribal what Ruto has done with Kingi and Wetangula is visionary come 2027 he will be rewarded . Si mabishano lets look at politics for what it is. Ujuaji haitakupeleka anywhere . You see where rhe Robinas ans Kichwas are? Where is Audacity of Dope ?

Biggest complainers of 2007 rigging is WSR.Not me.Of course you wish you can eliminate that part of Ruto history as you seek to own him.2022 Ruto win is backed by gema and kalenjin.2007 kibaki win was purely gema plus few votes here and there...so you can't compare the two.2013,2017 and 2022 are similar...at core is Mt Kenya & kalenjin alliance..that is hard to beat.Kibaki went to 2007 with Mt Kenya only hence the brazen rigging that sparked violence.
Kibaki rigged 2007 to win by 200k.We can never agree there.Whether we argue day n night.The rigging was brazen, led to more than thousand deaths and uprooted more half million people. When it come to political punditry .you cannot wash my feet.Youre not in my level.Two years ago I told you Weta would become National Assembly speaker...now you're doing postmortem of it and pretending to be a genius.Youre a crazy moron.I told you Rigathi was on pole for Dpork after kiunjuri messed up.

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Re: Edith Matiba went alliance
« Reply #21 on: September 11, 2022, 12:47:41 PM »
Just admit you know little about politics.Weta had a deal with Ruto long time ago because his options were limited - having fallen out with Raila earlier. I believe he signed onto Ruto team three years ago and what was remaining was inking the deal and avoiding Uhuru deep state from harrasing weta and weta making money from idiotic Uhuru. MaDVD was still ambitious about making PORK or something until recently. The crap about real politics of meeting friends and brothers of xyz is laughable. You have very little knowledge of kenya politics.
Yes beacuse Weta was not going anywhere until he hit the ground and specifically until Mudavadi told him WE NEED TO BE REAL
You can continue with your Punditry but politics is real. There is a reason we knew Ruto will be President and Raila will would depend on rigging.

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Re: Edith Matiba went alliance
« Reply #22 on: September 11, 2022, 12:54:21 PM »

I will be honest with you . When I was with Railas inner circle back in  July they told me Uhuru had a deal with Raila in 2016. Uhuru was to take 2017 and Raila 2022.
You can guess how I made it in Raila inner circle.

Just admit you know little about politics.Weta had a deal with Ruto long time ago because his options were limited - having fallen out with Raila earlier. I believe he signed onto Ruto team three years ago and what was remaining was inking the deal and avoiding Uhuru deep state from harrasing weta and weta making money from idiotic Uhuru. MaDVD was still ambitious about making PORK or something until recently. The crap about real politics of meeting friends and brothers of xyz is laughable. You have very little knowledge of kenya politics.
Yes beacuse Weta was not going anywhere until he hit the ground and specifically until Mudavadi told him WE NEED TO BE REAL
You can continue with your Punditry but politics is real. There is a reason we knew Ruto will be President and Raila will would depend on rigging.

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Re: Edith Matiba went alliance
« Reply #23 on: September 11, 2022, 01:02:47 PM »
Raila-Uhuru deal still doesnt make sense to me.
What make sense to me was Uhuru-Gideon deal.
Initially the plan as far as I can deduce and as far as Ruto inner circle says was simple.
Use Raila and harrass Ruto - force him to resign or quit - or fire him - then appoint Gideon as DPORk
Kalenjin would have no problem - GEMA would have no problem - kumi kumi would be on point
Gideon would become PORK - Muhoho or a kenyatta would become defacto DPORK.
That was the brief of Nancy Gitau - that was funded by Gideon and Muhoho.
The plan fell apart as Ruto was always ahead...they frustrated Ruto to the maximum...but Ruto held on DPORK.
Then they went for BBI - as fallback - give Raila PORK and Uhuru PM.
That also fell apart.
Then they decided to go fully on board on Raila as desperation kicked in.
And that also fell apart.
I dont listen to what you say - bull stories - I listen to Ruto inner circles who have revealed those plans - here and there.
Raila was never part of Uhuru plan - he was to be dumped 2002 style except Ruto proved very adept and they had to adopt Raila.
I will be honest with you . When I was with Railas inner circle back in  July they told me Uhuru had a deal with Raila in 2016. Uhuru was to take 2017 and Raila 2022.
You can guess how I made it in Raila inner circle.

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Re: Edith Matiba went alliance
« Reply #24 on: September 11, 2022, 01:09:26 PM »
Who is Rutos inner circle?
When we met with Railas inner circle in July in Karen. I was made ro know of this deal. I came here in Nipate and said it . Raila route to presidency is premised on rigging . Didnt mention any names.
Pundit you can quote all people you read in newspapers all you want. Reread all my posts you will know the real deal.


Raila-Uhuru deal still doesnt make sense to me.
What make sense to me was Uhuru-Gideon deal.
Initially the plan as far as I can deduce and as far as Ruto inner circle says was simple.
Use Raila and harrass Ruto - force him to resign or quit - or fire him - then appoint Gideon as DPORk
Kalenjin would have no problem - GEMA would have no problem - kumi kumi would be on point
Gideon would become PORK - Muhoho or a kenyatta would become defacto DPORK.
That was the brief of Nancy Gitau - that was funded by Gideon and Muhoho.
The plan fell apart as Ruto was always ahead...they frustrated Ruto to the maximum...but Ruto held on DPORK.
Then they went for BBI - as fallback - give Raila PORK and Uhuru PM.
That also fell apart.
Then they decided to go fully on board on Raila as desperation kicked in.
And that also fell apart.

I dont listen to what you say - bull stories - I listen to Ruto inner circles who have revealed those plans - here and there.


Raila was never part of Uhuru plan - he was to be dumped 2002 style except Ruto proved very adept and they had to adopt Raila.

I will be honest with you . When I was with Railas inner circle back in  July they told me Uhuru had a deal with Raila in 2016. Uhuru was to take 2017 and Raila 2022.
You can guess how I made it in Raila inner circle.

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Re: Edith Matiba went alliance
« Reply #25 on: September 11, 2022, 01:11:57 PM »
NOISE. Who are you and who are Raila inner circles. Raila is a fool incapable of planning or winning PORK. His inner circles are even more idiotic.

I keep track of real power deals.

For Uhuru - follow NANCY GITAU footsteps and footprints.

Why would you even care about Raila Odinga - someone SO NAIVE SO FOOLISH :) incapable of planning serious political moves.

Who is Rutos inner circle?
When we met with Railas inner circle in July in Karen. I was made ro know of this deal. I came here in Nipate and said it . Raila route to presidency is premised on rigging . Didnt mention any names.
Pundit you can quote all people you read in newspapers all you want. Reread all my posts you will know the real deal.


Raila-Uhuru deal still doesnt make sense to me.
What make sense to me was Uhuru-Gideon deal.
Initially the plan as far as I can deduce and as far as Ruto inner circle says was simple.
Use Raila and harrass Ruto - force him to resign or quit - or fire him - then appoint Gideon as DPORk
Kalenjin would have no problem - GEMA would have no problem - kumi kumi would be on point
Gideon would become PORK - Muhoho or a kenyatta would become defacto DPORK.
That was the brief of Nancy Gitau - that was funded by Gideon and Muhoho.
The plan fell apart as Ruto was always ahead...they frustrated Ruto to the maximum...but Ruto held on DPORK.
Then they went for BBI - as fallback - give Raila PORK and Uhuru PM.
That also fell apart.
Then they decided to go fully on board on Raila as desperation kicked in.
And that also fell apart.

I dont listen to what you say - bull stories - I listen to Ruto inner circles who have revealed those plans - here and there.


Raila was never part of Uhuru plan - he was to be dumped 2002 style except Ruto proved very adept and they had to adopt Raila.

I will be honest with you . When I was with Railas inner circle back in  July they told me Uhuru had a deal with Raila in 2016. Uhuru was to take 2017 and Raila 2022.
You can guess how I made it in Raila inner circle.

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Re: Edith Matiba went alliance
« Reply #26 on: September 11, 2022, 01:12:19 PM »

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Re: Edith Matiba went alliance
« Reply #27 on: September 11, 2022, 01:15:05 PM »
If you were like me I put mental alerts on Nancy Gitau and I read Uhuru like a book. That was Uhuru brain. Ufool himself is incapable of thinking for himself like Ruto.

The battle really was btw Nancy Gitau brains and William Ruto brains in the kenya political chessboard




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Re: Edith Matiba went alliance
« Reply #28 on: September 11, 2022, 01:21:24 PM »
When Nancy run to Australia - I knew Ufool had drunk water...he is now radarless and brainless.

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Re: Edith Matiba went alliance
« Reply #29 on: September 11, 2022, 01:24:39 PM »
Rv lets meet uwachane na story za Uhuru and Nancy gitau . They are inconsiquential.

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Re: Edith Matiba went alliance
« Reply #30 on: September 11, 2022, 01:27:07 PM »
Now they are finished before Ruto start on them. By christmas they will truly be finished. Nancy is very smart to know when to run. Now kenyattas and Mois are waiting for their fate. Ruto is practising his knockout punches. The upper cuts Kenyattas and Mois will get - I really pity them.
Rv lets meet uwachane na story za Uhuru and Nancy gitau . They are inconsiquential.

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Re: Edith Matiba went alliance
« Reply #31 on: September 11, 2022, 01:29:12 PM »
This was Rigathi - you listen to such gems - not nowayaha an online wannabe - or worse Raila and his D minus advisors :) whose gameplan is so obvious and so foolish.

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Re: Edith Matiba went alliance
« Reply #32 on: September 11, 2022, 01:43:13 PM »

Your problem is not even Uhuru but GEMA. you think we are in Raila era of 2003-2005 where they will go against Ruto.
Ive told you Ruto will grant Raila his referendumn .GEMA will stick Ruto until his last term. Ruto is the best student politics wise. He wont make Mistakes of Jommo, Moi,Kibaki, Uhuru. He is a REAL as it comes.


Now they are finished before Ruto start on them. By christmas they will truly be finished. Nancy is very smart to know when to run. Now kenyattas and Mois are waiting for their fate. Ruto is practising his knockout punches. The upper cuts Kenyattas and Mois will get - I really pity them.
Rv lets meet uwachane na story za Uhuru and Nancy gitau . They are inconsiquential.

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« Reply #33 on: September 11, 2022, 04:38:26 PM »
Why would I have problems with gema.I have a problems with Kenyatta.Same way I have problems with moi despite being a kalenjin.I supported kibaki on 90s till 2005.I married a gema woman.Why would I have problems with my in-laws?my kids are half gema.. speak Kikuyu and embu..why pray would have problems with that.I was very fortunate to brought by a very intelligent non tribal parents...I have no problems with Luos.I restrict my politics to people..not tribes.Dont project your tribalism on others

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Re: Edith Matiba went alliance
« Reply #34 on: September 11, 2022, 05:52:03 PM »

Rv , you think you are Ruto and start creating his threats which are not there. Your brain is engrained with GEMA fear. same like.Raila  supporters have been feed GEMA has been their problem to succeed . You are in that category. You can claim you have you married to to GEMA but that doesnt change the inbuild brain mechnism which formulates a belief a chracter. You adore Raila. its evident.You are an ODMer . I mean people can see that.

Why would I have problems with gema.I have a problems with Kenyatta.Same way I have problems with moi despite being a kalenjin.I supported kibaki on 90s till 2005.I married a gema woman.Why would I have problems with my in-laws?my kids are half gema.. speak Kikuyu and embu..why pray would have problems with that.I was very fortunate to brought by a very intelligent non tribal parents...I have no problems with Luos.I restrict my politics to people..not tribes.Dont project your tribalism on others

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Re: Edith Matiba went alliance
« Reply #35 on: September 11, 2022, 06:10:10 PM »

Rv , you think you are Ruto and start creating his threats which are not there. Your brain is engrained with GEMA fear. same like.Raila  supporters have been feed GEMA has been their problem to succeed . You are in that category. You can claim you have you married to to GEMA but that doesnt change the inbuild brain mechnism which formulates a belief a chracter. You adore Raila. its evident.You are an ODMer . I mean people can see that.

Why would I have problems with gema.I have a problems with Kenyatta.Same way I have problems with moi despite being a kalenjin.I supported kibaki on 90s till 2005.I married a gema woman.Why would I have problems with my in-laws?my kids are half gema.. speak Kikuyu and embu..why pray would have problems with that.I was very fortunate to brought by a very intelligent non tribal parents...I have no problems with Luos.I restrict my politics to people..not tribes.Dont project your tribalism on others
You're a cartoon.I have total absolute disdain for Raila.I think he is harmless fool.You think he is a threat.I think he is a kid.Many kalenjin think Luos are kids, my father had similar disdain.Gema fear Luos.Kalenjin we are brought up to think of Luos as nothing but kids at best women's.Its like kambas to you.You don't see kambas as threat.I don't see Luos or Raila as threat.You folks fear Raila n odm.. kalenjin sees them as people to be pitied.That difference.We don't consider worth of our enemity.Most gema have Raila or luophobia.. kalenjin see Raila and his people as hopeless in power games or even simple war..loud and boastful but really pushovers.No kalenjin I know hate Luos.We see them the way you see kambas..a retarded version of kikuyu.Kalenjin can never really fight Luos because they are not worthy of a fight.They are to be pitied.. Kalenjin supported Raila from April 2007 and regretted by January when he chicken out from fighting kibaki..less than year.Kalenjin were so ashamed they let Ruto lead them..to Kikuyu .If Ruto was Raila in 2007 Kenya would be gone..Luos are naive cowards you should not waste time on.. Kalenjin and Maasai are brave.Luos know better than bring nonsense to Ruto..they can't even dare ..that is why they are crying without causing makekele..they know better.They can only threaten kikuyus.They know if touch a kalenjin the pain will brought to bear and they will beg for mercy in a day. Kalenjin like Maasai and Somalis are very brave people who can dig in..Luos rush headlong and are done in hours..no strategy

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Re: Edith Matiba went alliance
« Reply #36 on: September 11, 2022, 06:42:41 PM »
Ruto biggest challenge is how hate to Luos or Raila or convince kikuyus that Luos and Raila are harmless.For now Ruto should avoid dealing with Raila and Luo nation but slowly convince gema that Luos are just loudmouths.Ruto unlikely to hate Luos for it's sake...he will embrace luo nation...and has to convince jittery gema nation that it's all well meaning