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Re: Omorlo and MoonKi, on ICC
« Reply #20 on: December 08, 2014, 05:32:13 PM »
Their failure to refer Kenia prejudices future charges and makes Kenia saintly while effectively portraying Bensouda as a mad woman; she is whining about non-cooperation and the court does none of the least expected that is 'sue' Kenia. They left her dangling in the wind.

The reason they will not refer Kenia is because they have no confidence in Bensouda rants
Throwing in the towel.  I take that back.  While indistinguishable from throwing in the towel from a practical perspective, that is not the intent of the decision.

The judges have no faith that the ASP would uphold their findings.  Something that would prejudice future charges and effectively sanitize Kenya's behavior.
Just scanning through the decision.  It makes sense to conclude they have no confidence in ASP upholding their position on GoK cooperation.  That they explicitly say it does not prejudice future charges, would seem to convey their opinion on the question of future charges.
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Re: Omorlo and MoonKi, on ICC
« Reply #21 on: December 08, 2014, 05:53:52 PM »
Simply put, the court cannot blame Kenya when the lame excuses cited by GoK are left to stand by OTP.
Just scanning through the decision.  It makes sense to conclude they have no confidence in ASP upholding their position on GoK cooperation.  That they explicitly say it does not prejudice future charges, would seem to convey their opinion on the question of future charges.
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Re: Omorlo and MoonKi, on ICC
« Reply #22 on: December 09, 2014, 04:43:51 PM »
Simply put, the court cannot blame Kenya when the lame excuses cited by GoK are left to stand by OTP.
Just scanning through the decision.  It makes sense to conclude they have no confidence in ASP upholding their position on GoK cooperation.  That they explicitly say it does not prejudice future charges, would seem to convey their opinion on the question of future charges.
Omollo,

They are blaming Kenya.  But wont move ahead with the referral.  I think that is the gist of this thread.
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Re: Omorlo and MoonKi, on ICC
« Reply #23 on: December 09, 2014, 05:59:32 PM »
Exactly but the OTP gets scalded too. If this was Kenya I would not rule out hefty bribes to induce ennui and willful laziness. 

Simply put, the court cannot blame Kenya when the lame excuses cited by GoK are left to stand by OTP.
Just scanning through the decision.  It makes sense to conclude they have no confidence in ASP upholding their position on GoK cooperation.  That they explicitly say it does not prejudice future charges, would seem to convey their opinion on the question of future charges.
Omollo,

They are blaming Kenya.  But wont move ahead with the referral.  I think that is the gist of this thread.
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Re: Omorlo and MoonKi, on ICC
« Reply #24 on: December 10, 2014, 10:07:50 AM »
Bensouda can barely convince the judges of non-cooperation. That's a victory for AG in some way

Exactly but the OTP gets scalded too. If this was Kenya I would not rule out hefty bribes to induce ennui and willful laziness. 
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Re: Omorlo and MoonKi, on ICC
« Reply #25 on: December 10, 2014, 03:07:59 PM »
Why don't you read the ruling to help you cease streetwise misinterpretations?
Bensouda can barely convince the judges of non-cooperation. That's a victory for AG in some way

Exactly but the OTP gets scalded too. If this was Kenya I would not rule out hefty bribes to induce ennui and willful laziness. 
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Re: Omorlo and MoonKi, on ICC
« Reply #26 on: December 10, 2014, 03:47:56 PM »
Exactly but the OTP gets scalded too. If this was Kenya I would not rule out hefty bribes to induce ennui and willful laziness. 

Simply put, the court cannot blame Kenya when the lame excuses cited by GoK are left to stand by OTP.
Just scanning through the decision.  It makes sense to conclude they have no confidence in ASP upholding their position on GoK cooperation.  That they explicitly say it does not prejudice future charges, would seem to convey their opinion on the question of future charges.
Omollo,

They are blaming Kenya.  But wont move ahead with the referral.  I think that is the gist of this thread.
Yes she does.  She has applied for leave to appeal the decision not to refer Kenya to ASP.
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Re: Omorlo and MoonKi, on ICC
« Reply #27 on: December 10, 2014, 04:46:15 PM »
Why don't you read the ruling to help you cease streetwise misinterpretations?


Chamber Decision
http://www.icc-cpi.int/iccdocs/doc/doc1878157.pdf
Bensouda's Appeal application
http://www.icc-cpi.int/iccdocs/doc/doc1881850.pdf

She could not convince nobody and I don't think she will
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