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Offline Dear Mami

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America’s Going-along With Ukraine's Neo-Nazi Problem
« on: March 02, 2022, 09:28:19 AM »
It reminds me of how we all thought Syria was going through a revolution from its opposition, backed by the U.S.  :D Only to find out both the CIA and the Pentagon were literally paying ACTUAL terrorist groups, including the Al-Qaeeda's/Al-Nusra varieties, sometimes even against each other :D while the media were pumping us all with hype about a poor opposition that needed help against big, bad Assad. Is it any wonder they've been supporting this Neo-Nazi nightmare in the Ukraine?

This is from 2018: https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/americas-collusion-with-neo-nazis/   Very interesting picture painted, reproduced here below:

Stephen F. Cohen, professor emeritus of Russian studies and politics at NYU and Princeton, and John Batchelor continue their (usually) weekly discussion of the new US-Russian Cold War. (Previous installments, now in their fifth year, are at TheNation.com.)

Cohen begins:


To be continued next . . . .



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Re: America’s Collusion With Neo-Nazis
« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2022, 09:31:43 AM »
Americans cannot be faulted for not knowing these facts. They are very rarely reported and still less debated in the mainstream media, whether in newspapers or on television. To learn about them, Americans would have to turn to alternative media and to their independent writers, which rarely affect mainstream accounts of the new Cold War.

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Re: Western Media is Propaganda: America’s Collusion With Neo-Nazis
« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2022, 09:39:25 AM »
Here's a short clip from 2015 predicting today's events with absolute/100% accuracy:


Still think US/NATO isn't responsible for this very avoidable situation?

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Re: America’s Going-along With Ukraine's Neo-Nazi Problem
« Reply #3 on: March 02, 2022, 11:13:51 AM »
If Ukranians are Nazis, why did they elect a Jew as president?

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Re: America’s Going-along With Ukraine's Neo-Nazi Problem
« Reply #4 on: March 02, 2022, 11:54:57 AM »
If Ukranians are Nazis, why did they elect a Jew as president?

Who said "Ukrainians are Nazis," Kadudu?  :D

They are using actual Neo-Nazis, with the tacit co-operation of the U.S., against ethnic Russians. Yaani, to hell with whatever they claim to believe about "the right thing." All they care about is winning, just like they did in Syria where suddenly terrorists became kosher for the purpose of removing Assad.

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Re: America’s Going-along With Ukraine's Neo-Nazi Problem
« Reply #5 on: March 02, 2022, 02:46:24 PM »
If Ukranians are Nazis, why did they elect a Jew as president?

Who said "Ukrainians are Nazis," Kadudu?  :D

They are using actual Neo-Nazis, with the tacit co-operation of the U.S., against ethnic Russians. Yaani, to hell with whatever they claim to believe about "the right thing." All they care about is winning, just like they did in Syria where suddenly terrorists became kosher for the purpose of removing Assad.

   Here is more proof from al Jazeera.

  https://aje.io/tuz86q

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Re: America’s Going-along With Ukraine's Neo-Nazi Problem
« Reply #6 on: March 02, 2022, 03:55:34 PM »
Neo nazis are a big problem in Europe. Right now because of Russian invasion neonazis have joined the armed resistance and they are the ones targeting Africans in Ukraine and Indians. Even Poland is still awash with neonazis. A Twitter acquaintance just posted her experience being chased in Poland while touring by neonazis in broad daylight and was rescued by a policeman who warned her to get out of Poland. It is not something new in europe but a big problem. They are very active in Ukraine and have a militia that is very strong. Even America has a neonazi problem. No state doesn't have this threat. Any war in USA will morph into a race war. That why destabilization of any state is serious business for minorities

I was listening to a Twitter space of people rescuing africans trapped in Ukraine and Poland. They said that in Poland there were criminal groups hunting the African refugees at night and taking their money

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Re: America’s Going-along With Ukraine's Neo-Nazi Problem
« Reply #7 on: March 03, 2022, 07:12:44 AM »
Well, Ukraine's destabilization began with the American-backed coup in 2014.

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Re: America’s Going-along With Ukraine's Neo-Nazi Problem
« Reply #8 on: March 03, 2022, 08:39:04 AM »
Neo nazis are a big problem in Europe. Right now because of Russian invasion neonazis have joined the armed resistance and they are the ones targeting Africans in Ukraine and Indians.

Unfortunately, it didn't just start now. It's been well-documented since 2014. The article I posted was 2018, for example. The Al-jazeera one that Mankind posted is from Monday, this week, but links UN and other documents tracing this in Ukraine from 2015.

They are not just militia. You have elected members initially from these groups serving in the Ukrainian government.

Now compare the specifity and details of the two articles with this vague and dismissive "rebuttal" typical of this week's media narrative in the West: https://www.npr.org/2022/03/01/1083677765/putin-denazify-ukraine-russia-history

You don't see anything about these Nazi groups' specific histories and formations, their various acts of violence that have been denounced by groups like Amnesty International and the UN, their crimes against Roma (Gypsies), minorities, and ethnic Russians, and all the things the Ukrainian govt has allowed or encouraged them to do since 2014. It's all hand-waving.

Now to drive the point further on just why anyone who takes Western media reporting for granted without checking out alternative sources is being fed pure propaganda, just compare this reporting to the reporting on Xingjian, :D

The Western Xingjian narrative is: something must be done asap to save the Uyghurs from genocide . . . despite the place being open to inspection by both the West and Muslim countries (the former who have flatly refused to do said inspection while insisting on the narrative and the latter who have all visited and denied anything like that is going on) and despite the lack of a refugee crisis or asylum seekers running from the country which borders Turkey, (quite the contrast to Eastern Ukraine) indeed of any evidence of people being killed in Xingjian. Only being forced into re-education camps when caught with radical Islamist/terrorist connections/ideas. But when they're reporting on Ukraine, where actual burnings have happened, Kiamba-style, they claim "Nothing like genocide/ethnic cleansing here."

And you guys wonder why we are so careful WHENEVER the Western media collectively points to someone in some other part of the world and tells the world "Huyo! Mwizi! Choma!", :D waiting before we run out of the house with stones and pitch forks ready to discipline said mwizi . . .