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Nowayaha - Ruto insist all the little parties in central fold up
« on: September 18, 2021, 11:11:29 AM »
What way for Moses Kuria and Kiunjuri?

Will they find a candidate to run for 2022?

Ama they will fold up?

Or Negotiate with baba man

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Re: Nowayaha - Ruto insist all the little parties in central fold up
« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2021, 11:57:18 AM »
I fully agree and this based on on 2007 election results where Kibaki narroly won but because he had many affliate parties mara PNU, NARC Kenya, Sisi Kwa Sisi, Ford Kenya , New Ford Kenya, Ford People, Shirikisho Party ,DP, Ford Asili etc . ODM told the world they had Majority MPs and Kibakis PNU had very few MPs  but cumulitavely Kibakis Coalition had More MPs than ODM. With the Developed countries having Parliamentary system did believe ODM had won the election and forced NARA under our throat.
Raila made the same mistake in 2017 having ManybPresidential votes  but ended up with 77 MPs and Jubilee a unified Party had 177.
Those parties should fold join UDA or their owners retired politically by the ballot. Kiunjuri seems never have to learnt with his GNU party. Moses Kuria wants to force himself to Cabinet. When you hear him saying he doesnt want to vie for a sit you can read in between the lines. Martha as usual being stuborn , PK just confused, The rest no need of a mention.

What way for Moses Kuria and Kiunjuri?

Will they find a candidate to run for 2022?

Ama they will fold up?

Or Negotiate with baba man


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Re: Nowayaha - Ruto insist all the little parties in central fold up
« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2021, 12:46:06 PM »
Okay generally agreed; ODM had slight edge when all PNU affiliates are compared; Raila won by slighly margin; that Kibaki rigged.
Raila should have won by 46-47 percent with Kibaki 43-44 percent.
Kiunjuri TSP has failed completely. He should have folded it last year.
Moses Kuria has a case - he enjoy support - and he needs to play for the long term - but he should not imagine he is Ruto equal to demand a coalition.
Justin Muturi - seems to be learning siasa - and has no party - huyu will run to UDA soon.
The rest are really not worthy of any ink - PK and company?
I fully agree and this based on on 2007 election results where Kibaki narroly won but because he had many affliate parties mara PNU, NARC Kenya, Sisi Kwa Sisi, Ford Kenya , New Ford Kenya, Ford People, Shirikisho Party ,DP, Ford Asili etc . ODM told the world they had Majority MPs and Kibakis PNU had very few MPs  but cumulitavely Kibakis Coalition had More MPs than ODM. With the Developed countries having Parliamentary system did believe ODM had won the election and forced NARA under our throat.
Raila made the same mistake in 2017 having ManybPresidential votes  but ended up with 77 MPs and Jubilee a unified Party had 177.
Those parties should fold join UDA or their owners retired politically by the ballot. Kiunjuri seems never have to learnt with his GNU party. Moses Kuria wants to force himself to Cabinet. When you hear him saying he doesnt want to vie for a sit you can read in between the lines. Martha as usual being stuborn , PK just confused, The rest no need of a mention.

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Re: Nowayaha - Ruto insist all the little parties in central fold up
« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2021, 05:18:23 PM »

Problem of Moses Kuria is that he is not consistent.
His Moment was Newyears 2019 when he dealt Uhuru an uppercut .
Biggest blunder apologizing later and aligning with BBI team later.
Luckliy he redeemed him self by aligning with Ruto again
Then come the Mutugi By election he sponsored a candidate when Ruto was still fighting for Jubilee, then he followed up with Juja by election. Lets see how he performs in the Meru MCA by election.
Unfortunately as we have learnt from Uhuru , Ulevi and politics dont work. Both talented Brilliat people but lack clarity of Mind.


Okay generally agreed; ODM had slight edge when all PNU affiliates are compared; Raila won by slighly margin; that Kibaki rigged.
Raila should have won by 46-47 percent with Kibaki 43-44 percent.
Kiunjuri TSP has failed completely. He should have folded it last year.
Moses Kuria has a case - he enjoy support - and he needs to play for the long term - but he should not imagine he is Ruto equal to demand a coalition.
Justin Muturi - seems to be learning siasa - and has no party - huyu will run to UDA soon.
The rest are really not worthy of any ink - PK and company?
I fully agree and this based on on 2007 election results where Kibaki narroly won but because he had many affliate parties mara PNU, NARC Kenya, Sisi Kwa Sisi, Ford Kenya , New Ford Kenya, Ford People, Shirikisho Party ,DP, Ford Asili etc . ODM told the world they had Majority MPs and Kibakis PNU had very few MPs  but cumulitavely Kibakis Coalition had More MPs than ODM. With the Developed countries having Parliamentary system did believe ODM had won the election and forced NARA under our throat.
Raila made the same mistake in 2017 having ManybPresidential votes  but ended up with 77 MPs and Jubilee a unified Party had 177.
Those parties should fold join UDA or their owners retired politically by the ballot. Kiunjuri seems never have to learnt with his GNU party. Moses Kuria wants to force himself to Cabinet. When you hear him saying he doesnt want to vie for a sit you can read in between the lines. Martha as usual being stuborn , PK just confused, The rest no need of a mention.

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Re: Nowayaha - Ruto insist all the little parties in central fold up
« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2021, 05:52:23 PM »
Moses needs to work on 1) Pombe and 2) Oratory skills - I believe Kiunjuri has had the most growth - as sober leader. Both need to do accent removal - so they dont sound illiterates - while both are very good IQ wise - with Moses having good brain. It's like Henry Kosgey - nobody believes he has chemistry degree - he sounds illiterate with his heavy Nandi accent. Kenyans do not like people with heavy tribal accent. They associate it with illiteracy..they should take a month in Mombasa for basic Kiswahil lesson.

For now - they should find a way to quietly engage Ruto and UDA - and reduce the threats this early.

Negotiation are done in April-May - and in a rush -you give someone 48 hours. That is the time to threaten Ruto.

For now they have rushed headlong - way too early - they should go slow - and concentrate on their parties.

As for Martha- PK they continue to make blunders....as we head to election...they are going to lose again...and are not even sure what to run for?

Problem of Moses Kuria is that he is not consistent.
His Moment was Newyears 2019 when he dealt Uhuru an uppercut .
Biggest blunder apologizing later and aligning with BBI team later.
Luckliy he redeemed him self by aligning with Ruto again
Then come the Mutugi By election he sponsored a candidate when Ruto was still fighting for Jubilee, then he followed up with Juja by election. Lets see how he performs in the Meru MCA by election.
Unfortunately as we have learnt from Uhuru , Ulevi and politics dont work. Both talented Brilliat people but lack clarity of Mind.

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Re: Nowayaha - Ruto insist all the little parties in central fold up
« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2021, 04:55:39 PM »
Kiunjuri camp empties...

Karung'o wa Thangwa,
Joins the home of #HustlerNation  UDA KENYA from TSP.
He was the Organizing Secretary pale TSP

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Re: Nowayaha - Ruto insist all the little parties in central fold up
« Reply #6 on: September 19, 2021, 07:25:42 PM »
https://nation.africa/kenya/news/politics/grand-mullah-the-trouble-with-uhuru-raila-and-ruto-3555432My view is that One Kenya Alliance is a mirage. It is a waste of time. If they want to be relevant and be in government, they must join either of the two sides. The third option is political wilderness


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Re: Nowayaha - Ruto insist all the little parties in central fold up
« Reply #7 on: September 19, 2021, 08:49:03 PM »
I fully agree and this based on on 2007 election results where Kibaki narroly won but because he had many affliate parties mara PNU, NARC Kenya, Sisi Kwa Sisi, Ford Kenya , New Ford Kenya, Ford People, Shirikisho Party ,DP, Ford Asili etc . ODM told the world they had Majority MPs and Kibakis PNU had very few MPs  but cumulitavely Kibakis Coalition had More MPs than ODM. With the Developed countries having Parliamentary system did believe ODM had won the election and forced NARA under our throat.
Raila made the same mistake in 2017 having ManybPresidential votes  but ended up with 77 MPs and Jubilee a unified Party had 177.
Those parties should fold join UDA or their owners retired politically by the ballot. Kiunjuri seems never have to learnt with his GNU party. Moses Kuria wants to force himself to Cabinet. When you hear him saying he doesnt want to vie for a sit you can read in between the lines. Martha as usual being stuborn , PK just confused, The rest no need of a mention.

What way for Moses Kuria and Kiunjuri?

Will they find a candidate to run for 2022?

Ama they will fold up?

Or Negotiate with baba man


Why is he threatening small parties so early in the race? Who is he to tell them to fold up? He has his house and they have theirs. Don't use 2013 and 2017 in your explanations because they were massively rigged.
Celebratory violence: 2017 crime invented to justify killings to prevent Raila from becoming PORK. http://www.nipate.com/download/file.php?id=4244

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Re: Nowayaha - Ruto insist all the little parties in central fold up
« Reply #8 on: September 20, 2021, 12:35:58 PM »
Kibaki won in 2007? :o :o :o

We are now in 2021. Just let us be honest to one another.

I fully agree and this based on on 2007 election results where Kibaki narroly won but because he had many affliate parties mara PNU, NARC Kenya, Sisi Kwa Sisi, Ford Kenya , New Ford Kenya, Ford People, Shirikisho Party ,DP, Ford Asili etc . ODM told the world they had Majority MPs and Kibakis PNU had very few MPs  but cumulitavely Kibakis Coalition had More MPs than ODM. With the Developed countries having Parliamentary system did believe ODM had won the election and forced NARA under our throat.
Raila made the same mistake in 2017 having ManybPresidential votes  but ended up with 77 MPs and Jubilee a unified Party had 177.
Those parties should fold join UDA or their owners retired politically by the ballot. Kiunjuri seems never have to learnt with his GNU party. Moses Kuria wants to force himself to Cabinet. When you hear him saying he doesnt want to vie for a sit you can read in between the lines. Martha as usual being stuborn , PK just confused, The rest no need of a mention.

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Re: Nowayaha - Ruto insist all the little parties in central fold up
« Reply #9 on: September 20, 2021, 02:31:11 PM »
What way for Moses Kuria and Kiunjuri?

Will they find a candidate to run for 2022?

Ama they will fold up?

Or Negotiate with baba man


Speaking like that now what happen when he allegedly become president?
Celebratory violence: 2017 crime invented to justify killings to prevent Raila from becoming PORK. http://www.nipate.com/download/file.php?id=4244