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Offline Gikomba_Hawker

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For Kenya, electoral reform is a matter of life and death
« on: July 26, 2021, 04:58:11 AM »
For Kenya, electoral reform is a matter of life and death
https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2021/7/24/for-kenya-electoral-reform-is-a-matter-of-life-and-death
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Re: For Kenya, electoral reform is a matter of life and death
« Reply #1 on: July 26, 2021, 11:12:31 AM »
Too late. We will go to the elections with an IEBC that is not controlled by government, but by Uhuru Kenyatta.

Offline RV Pundit

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Re: For Kenya, electoral reform is a matter of life and death
« Reply #2 on: July 26, 2021, 11:35:21 AM »
How is IEBC controlled by Uhuru Kenyatta. As long as every polling station is final - IEBC cannot be controlled. People in every polling station will control their affairs. That to me is the genius of Maina Kia rulling. I was opposed to this - because I imagine cases where polling station made errors - but as long as those errors are so granular - their net effect is btw 500-700 votes. You can rig 700 votes max.

Once results CANNOT BE ALTERED - then results CANNOT be manipulated. What can be manipulated is just addition and substraction. Otherwise every polling station - people will have complete results - it will be pinned on the walls - people take pictures - name it.

That is why Uhuru lost Kiambaa despite spending 300M kshs, deploying chiefs, NIS, name it.

Too late. We will go to the elections with an IEBC that is not controlled by government, but by Uhuru Kenyatta.

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Re: For Kenya, electoral reform is a matter of life and death
« Reply #3 on: July 26, 2021, 12:43:13 PM »
Sometimes you make noise here like you do not live in Kenya.
With all the machinasations that have taken place with the IEBC since 2007 you want to tell us IEBC is an independent body? Even till today IEBC servers for the presidential elections of 2017 have never been opened despite being ordered by the Supreme Court to do so. He who controls the IEBC will determine who wins the presidential election in 2022.

How is IEBC controlled by Uhuru Kenyatta. As long as every polling station is final - IEBC cannot be controlled. People in every polling station will control their affairs. That to me is the genius of Maina Kia rulling. I was opposed to this - because I imagine cases where polling station made errors - but as long as those errors are so granular - their net effect is btw 500-700 votes. You can rig 700 votes max.

Once results CANNOT BE ALTERED - then results CANNOT be manipulated. What can be manipulated is just addition and substraction. Otherwise every polling station - people will have complete results - it will be pinned on the walls - people take pictures - name it.

That is why Uhuru lost Kiambaa despite spending 300M kshs, deploying chiefs, NIS, name it.

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Re: For Kenya, electoral reform is a matter of life and death
« Reply #4 on: July 26, 2021, 02:20:59 PM »
2007 was blantanly rigged. 2013 and 2017 nope.
The court order on servers lapsed when the results were invalidated. Unless you want it for academic purposes.
NASA were invited to participate in repeat poll - they refused knowing well they had lost by HUGE MARGINS - almost 2 millions votes.

Jubilee participated and won by 7,483,895 - that shows you the kind of support Jubilee enjoys

Stop the tiring lies. IEBC were ordered to open the servers - in such short time - and they were in process of compling - but in any case those orders are now moot - with 5 out 7 judges throwing it out.

https://www.theelephant.info/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/ICT-Report-Filed-by-the-Court-Appointed-Experts-on-29th-August-2017.pdf

And servers really have provisional results because this manual election

Sometimes you make noise here like you do not live in Kenya.
With all the machinasations that have taken place with the IEBC since 2007 you want to tell us IEBC is an independent body? Even till today IEBC servers for the presidential elections of 2017 have never been opened despite being ordered by the Supreme Court to do so. He who controls the IEBC will determine who wins the presidential election in 2022.