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Raila Odinga's Usefulness Nearly Over
« on: May 07, 2021, 08:08:11 AM »
With his services to Uthamaki nearly done, his mission nearly complete (the mission Uhuru assigned him), Raila will no better than the peel of a banana thrown on a subway. I'd have said a used condom on the subway tracks but that would be extremely rude so I will leave it unsaid!

Uhuru Kenyatta wants a 4th term. In 2022 he will present his papers with Ruto as the running mate. Raila or proxy will run to court all the way to the Supreme Court. The courts under Martha Uthamaki Koome will rule that the BBI amendments wwere so extensive as to create a completely new constitution. That resets the term limits for Uhuru, Ruto and even the governors.

I realized that Raila wasn't smart to see this when he proposed lifting of term limits for governors. I remember asking my Kalenjin wife: How stupid can this guy possibly get? She answered: there's right now no bottom for the son of Jaramogi.

Robina, disabuse yourself of any ideas that the Kenyatta Family would willingly hand over power to someone else at a time like this. They had power for a "paltry" 15 years and had to stay in the cold for a long 35 years. They bought it back and they'll be damned to give it up without a fight.

How can they when all around them the sons of men who held power at the same time as Mzee are still in office now seeking to make a third generation transition? Need I give you a list?

The problem for Mama Nani was just that her sons were too young in 1978. 15 years surely! Who becomes president at that age. She ruthlessly cleared the deck in the Family. She bid her time. It came in 2013.

She has a long list of heirs now than 1978.

Who does Raila have? Junior?

We told the guy to look for a young Luo woman with a big ass and shake out another 10 kids. You can't have a Dynasty with daughters and one sickly son. It's just the brutal truth that the Nehru family in India came to learn. The Indians were standing ready to give them power after Rajiv died but there was no heir. Just that lesson is what mama nani learned in 1978 and vowed never again.

So please peter Kenneth can always go back to Sally Kosgei kusaidia huko. But power ... no.
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Re: Raila Odinga's Usefulness Nearly Over
« Reply #1 on: May 07, 2021, 08:46:48 AM »
Uhuru is in a quagmire that he brought up himself.where will he place Gideon,Mudavavdi,Kalonzo,Wetangula,Raira. Ruto has no baggage and actually BBI will give him huge leeway to negotiate.
Uhuru still has to put a Kenyatta somewhere in the government as they can't trust anyone. The question is what that position will be.
Best way for baba is to tosha Mzito Ruto unconditionally and Ruto will in return let baba have atleast 1 deputy PM and 3 cabinet positions among other plum job kwa serikal.

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Re: Raila Odinga's Usefulness Nearly Over
« Reply #2 on: May 07, 2021, 09:49:10 AM »
It's increasingly looking like 2002 when a shafted Raila was willing to fuck everything but ensure Moi lost.

There's a 3rd option: Both Raila & Ruto endorse a third candidate probably an MP nobody has heard of before.
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Re: Raila Odinga's Usefulness Nearly Over
« Reply #3 on: May 07, 2021, 09:49:32 AM »
Raila used to be one of the most respected 2nd Generation leaders the so called "Young Turks" (Martha Karua +Gitobu Imanyara+Mukhisa Kituyi+Kijana Wamalwa+James Orengo+Anyang’ Nyong’o+Kiraitu Murungi+Paul Muite )
In 1992 When still Langata was inhabited by the GEMA , they opted to vote for him as Langata MP in 92 G.E. instead of FORD Asili Candidate -Then out of  8 Constituencies FORD Asili scooped 6 . The other going to an Asian in Westlands .

Come 97 after the G.E. elections he did his first betrayal (Most say his second betrayal after the 1995 battles with Wamalwa & Orengo) which he has been accustomed to and joined hands with Moi where as he had held a Press Conference with Kibaki and promised to pursue Electoral Justice with Kibaki against Moi ) What did he do , He ran to KANU & Moi and started a co-operation which culminated in NDP being swallowed by the Cockerel in 2001 .

 After being handed several cabinet posts and Secretary General post in KANU for 2002 readiness he did another betrayal after realising his scheme of being nominated as KANU Presidential candidate had been thwarted , He started an Alliance with Nyachae backstabbing him last minute after doing an MOU with him same day  and declaring Kibaki Tosha, Also Kibaki he didnt take days after the winning elections he started a rebellion which culminated in the 2005 Orange Movement by joining hands with Kibaki opponents Uhuru and Ruto. Betrayal continued by squeezing out Kalonzo out of ODM and forming Pentagon for 2007 elections.

 As is the norm with him he immediately after 2008  NARA negotiations decided to betray Ruto who single handedly made him the Prime Minister , coming years he threw Ruto out of Cabinet and sent him to ICC thinking its a through pass for 2012 presidential elections , Now by 2013 , Raila had betrayed all the Pentagon members , In 2007 he had promised to support Mudavadi for 2012 elections , Nyaga became a GEMA even after supporting him, Ngilu was replaced by Kalonzo and Balala was betrayed with Joho .

Coming to most current ,he betrayed Mudavadi Kalonzo so called NASA Hao team for a handshake with Uhuru.

The common denominator with Raila politics is betrayal . He though he would use Uhuru and betray him last minute with Ruto , only to realize Ruto is a good teacher of History . Ruto was in KANU when Raila betrayed them , he was in ODM when Raila betrayed him it would be absurd to be betrayed the 3rd time again . He also got a matured sly Uhuru who as they say shafted him to a level we even  feel sorry for him.

Now one lesson about betrayal is  "Even the people who betray you are part of the plan."
The people Raila betrayed  became Presidents (Kibaki , Uhuru and Incoming President  Ruto )
   

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Re: Raila Odinga's Usefulness Nearly Over
« Reply #4 on: May 07, 2021, 10:08:01 AM »
Nope. I don't think Uhuru want to risk ICC. Kenyatta family and their wealth had a lucky escape. So Uhuru will quietly exit the scene...leaving Raila to be mauled

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Re: Raila Odinga's Usefulness Nearly Over
« Reply #5 on: May 07, 2021, 11:33:27 AM »
 another thread that is full of conjecture. Uhuru is going home. I know this for sure because there are certain things I am privy about him that most of you are not. Raila may not be on the ballot too. He wants to retire but his supporters are desperate. He is in a bind. His family wants him to retire with uhuru

Omollo pole but mzee raila has run out of ideas. Uhuru is teaching him leadership. Showing him how luos can be helped. Today luo nyanza is getting unorecedented development. By the time martha karua presidency is over in 2032 luo nyanza will be the least poor region. Maternal deaths would have been reduce to zero. Malaria will no longer be the leading killer. Tuliza boli. I know raila cows are giddy because Uhuru has done so much for them

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Re: Raila Odinga's Usefulness Nearly Over
« Reply #6 on: May 07, 2021, 11:38:25 AM »
I have no time for Raila but will not resort to rewriting history as Mr. Uthamaki is doing down here.

Nairobi politics have always been tribal. To win a seat you need atleast 2 years of preparation. You import people from your home county and register them to vote. It is a huge investment which you know will pay off with free plots and political payouts from top eaters up the political food chain.

Raila, ahead of contesting kibera had mounted a huge operation on the lines described. There was one exception: he didn't need to import Luos from Nyanza. Luos identified a number of constituencies in Nairobi (as they've done for years) and went there to register.

There's also a trade off and alliances. In most cases there's the western Kenya alliance which has at times included the few Kalenjin in urban areas. Only 3 tribes have an overwhelming urban presence: Luhya, Luo & Kikuyu. The others are insignificant. Kalenjins because of abundance of land and a history of fierce anti colonial resistance weren't either allowed in the urban areas or weren't motivated.

Raila didn't need GEMA to win Kibera. He didn't win out of the generosity of Kenneth Matiba. He won because an alliance of Luo & Nubians were a majority. He may also have benefited from the deep state which was keen to see the opposition divided. The benefit was limited to them not engaging in electoral fraud which was a must those days.

I'm not sure about the veracity of the litany of "betrayals" you've pinned on him. He's not that smart. You read Pundit but somehow miss the lessons. Politics is not anybody's mother's porridge. Ukicheza unachezwa and there's no place to go and appeal. Raila hit Ruto. Ruto hit him back in the balls by crossing over to Kibaki and taking away his Rift Valley constituency for keeps. Who betrayed who?

Nyachae to be supported for the presidency? You're joking. What was he bringing to the table? A few thousand Kisiis? In exchange for 5 million ready votes from Luos, Luhyas, Kalenjins the marginalized, Kamba almost all larger than the kisii vote.

I've asked about that betrayal and was told there was none. Nyachae joined a coalition whose leader was Raila. The agreement gave Raila the authority to enter any negotiations and strike any deals. He endorsed Kibaki and followed up with a secret agreement. The only criticism from me is the ineptitude. He should have withheld his endorsement until he got airtight commitments.

About 1997: Kibaki was approached first. He dragged his feet and Raila took the chance. Why? Kibaki didn't inform the others of his secret talks with Moi. So Raila in typical "this is not your mother's porridge" decided to throw the stuff in Kibaki's face and cut a deal with Moi. This is well documented.


My problem with No Wits is his tendency to see things from the Uthamakistani point of view. He then pretends to be objective. That is undermined by the simple reality: his treatises are regurgitated verandah gossip and muratina talk in smoke filled rooms in Uthamakistan

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Re: Raila Odinga's Usefulness Nearly Over
« Reply #7 on: May 07, 2021, 11:39:56 AM »
He wants to retire so much that he neutralizes term limits!
Get from another thread that is full of conjecture. Uhuru is goikg home. I know this for sure because there are certain things I am privy about him that most of you are not. Raila may not be on the ballot too. He wants to retire but his suppprters are desperate. He is in a bind. His family wants him to retire with uhuru
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Re: Raila Odinga's Usefulness Nearly Over
« Reply #8 on: May 07, 2021, 11:40:11 AM »
Would be good for Raila to retire. He has foughts his wars and his body tells him it is enough. Covid infection just confirmed his time for retirement. The man would not survive an election campaign starting in the next few months.

Get from another thread that is full of conjecture. Uhuru is goikg home. I know this for sure because there are certain things I am privy about him that most of you are not. Raila may not be on the ballot too. He wants to retire but his suppprters are desperate. He is in a bind. His family wants him to retire with uhuru

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Re: Raila Odinga's Usefulness Nearly Over
« Reply #9 on: May 07, 2021, 12:30:07 PM »
The risk is too high assuming he can get over the judiciary that is almost hostile to him and fiercely independent. The pressure both locally and internationally (esp with crazy Biden) will be too much to bear - and could even lead to another PEV - another ICC debacle. Kenyatta's are not that desperate - they stand to lose a lot more - than gain - in any future arrangement anyway. They have in any case reach a level of economic cronyism that would mint money for them - whether in or out of gov.

Uhuru is going out quite unpopular due to COVID ravaging the economy and made everyone including the gov broke - so nobody is keen to associate with him - come next year. Ruto is trying to put a ten feet pole btw him and Uhuru for that reason.

Uhuru has managed to buy parliament but the judiciary remains our last defence...and Kenyans of course.

He wants to retire so much that he neutralizes term limits!

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Re: Raila Odinga's Usefulness Nearly Over
« Reply #10 on: May 07, 2021, 01:51:43 PM »
Uhuru will go but most likely plant a Kenyatta somewhere in top government position. This too we will fight it that's why Uhuru went for kalonzo and mudavadi, people who are meek but Kenyans are not. Uhuru best bet was to stick with Ruto anything aside from that will end up in the liquidation of the Kenyattas

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Re: Raila Odinga's Usefulness Nearly Over
« Reply #11 on: May 07, 2021, 02:09:38 PM »
Uhuru will go but most likely plant a Kenyatta somewhere in top government position. This too we will fight it that's why Uhuru went for kalonzo and mudavadi, people who are meek but Kenyans are not. Uhuru best bet was to stick with Ruto anything aside from that will end up in the liquidation of the Kenyattas

You sound like a crazy conspirancy theorist. How is your tinfoil hat? Do you need it adjusted?

You are mmeru mjeuri. You are all over the place like those tigania drunkards