Hustler versus Uhuru's tribal politics continues

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[RV Pundit]

Look like 2007 is loading as the mlevi president

[Fairandbalanced]

What does Uhuru have to do with this? At this point, you are starting to see Uhuru in your shadow.

[RV Pundit]

He is now a Mungiki leader essentially having run away from PORK - aiming to be GEMA leader - but obviously GEMA people are too smart for him.

Uhuru need prayers and so does Kenya.

When president start misbehaving like late Nyachae did in Gusii by sending Gusii warrior to shot Ruto for attending an harambee.

Many Gusii were killed, raped and property burnt by that small Nyachae action.

Leaders should behave like Ruto - measure your WORDS.

Uhuru has big podium - he can choose to burn this country - if he wants - and if he think the police or army will protect him - he is wrong - because they could also split into tribal enclaves - and we have civil war.

Kenya is not exceptional

We need leaders like MOI  - who understand the gravity of their position.  As tribal as Moi was - he would never openly advocate for tribalism. Why would UHURU DO THIS? He is desperate to fight the Hustler Nation and is willing to go to any length.

When Hustler Nation rise - don't say - you did not see it - like you said in 2007. Start the war - but you'll not end it.

What does Uhuru have to do with this? At this point, you are starting to see Uhuru in your shadow.

[Georgesoros]

What does Uhuru have to do with this? At this point, you are starting to see Uhuru in your shadow.

Exactly.  These morons are paid huge sums of money to help Kenya be like South Korea, instead all we get is SHIAT

[Nowayhaha]

Look like 2007 is loading as the mlevi president

RV, Its inevitable , and Seems its clear Uhuru and Raila want that to  happen . Hence the reason of BBI and a referendum .
They benefitted immensely from 2007 P.E.V. --> Raila became PM and got half of the cabinet
Uhuru became DP , Minister of Finance and eventually managed to inherit Mt Kenya which propelled him to Presidency.
There is no way we can change a constitution during peace time and expect things to be normal .
However this time around the results will be different  - Uhuru and Raila will find themselves in ICC and Wananchi will make them pay in a way or another .

[Nowayhaha]

What does Uhuru have to do with this? At this point, you are starting to see Uhuru in your shadow.

Simple answer  - Its the BBI ......

[RV Pundit]

Yes this time round - they will be the target - they want to incite tribal war - but people will go for class war.
Poor people attacking poor people will not happen. All poor people will attack the rich. It's has huge pay off - rather than stealing a bicyle - you could steal more in dynasties.

RV, Its inevitable , and Seems its clear Uhuru and Raila want that to  happen . Hence the reason of BBI and a referendum .
They benefitted immensely from 2007 P.E.V. --> Raila became PM and got half of the cabinet
Uhuru became DP , Minister of Finance and eventually managed to inherit Mt Kenya which propelled him to Presidency.
There is no way we can change a constitution during peace time and expect things to be normal .
However this time around the results will be different  - Uhuru and Raila will find themselves in ICC and Wananchi will make them pay in a way or another .

[Nowayhaha]

The signs of war have been out there since Raila oathed himself as a president , Since the Kibra by-election where Uhuru congratulated the violence used , In Kilifi and Kwale by elections where Joho goons (some headed by his cousins) , well known in Mombasa exported the violence there in the name of " protecting the votes ", sponsored heckling by Kamanda , Oluoch , Arati and Kajwang  and Matiangi/Kibicho letting this pass .
We are headed for a plain all out Vita . Brace yourselves

Yes this time round - they will be the target - they want to incite tribal war - but people will go for class war.
Poor people attacking poor people will not happen. All poor people will attack the rich. It's has huge pay off - rather than stealing a bicyle - you could steal more in dynasties.

RV, Its inevitable , and Seems its clear Uhuru and Raila want that to  happen . Hence the reason of BBI and a referendum .
They benefitted immensely from 2007 P.E.V. --> Raila became PM and got half of the cabinet
Uhuru became DP , Minister of Finance and eventually managed to inherit Mt Kenya which propelled him to Presidency.
There is no way we can change a constitution during peace time and expect things to be normal .
However this time around the results will be different  - Uhuru and Raila will find themselves in ICC and Wananchi will make them pay in a way or another .

[patel]

Kisii hasira tupu......on this one I think Simba Arati won and stupid Osoro lost badly. Osoro should have waited for his chance to respond to Simba through the microphone.

[RV Pundit]

Yes unless Uhuru sobers up - it going down. Uhuru having misused the deep state and system so much it's now ineffective - is on his way to reviving mungiki/chinkoror/musembeji/kisumu boys - there is now a trend of heckling everywhere - and open tribalism preaching.Hustler nation has yet to respond to his bait - because they realize Uhuru is trying to incite a premature war - so he can extinguish hustler nation as dangerous.

Ruto will stay the course but shit will hit the fan in 2022 for sure if Uhuru is determined to mess kenya.

The signs of war have been out there since Raila oathed himself as a president , Since the Kibra by-election where Uhuru congratulated the violence used , In Kilifi and Kwale by elections where Joho goons (some headed by his cousins) , well known in Mombasa exported the violence there in the name of " protecting the votes ", sponsored heckling by Kamanda , Oluoch , Arati and Kajwang  and Matiangi/Kibicho letting this pass .
We are headed for a plain all out Vita . Brace yourselves

Yes this time round - they will be the target - they want to incite tribal war - but people will go for class war.
Poor people attacking poor people will not happen. All poor people will attack the rich. It's has huge pay off - rather than stealing a bicyle - you could steal more in dynasties.

RV, Its inevitable , and Seems its clear Uhuru and Raila want that to  happen . Hence the reason of BBI and a referendum .
They benefitted immensely from 2007 P.E.V. --> Raila became PM and got half of the cabinet
Uhuru became DP , Minister of Finance and eventually managed to inherit Mt Kenya which propelled him to Presidency.
There is no way we can change a constitution during peace time and expect things to be normal .
However this time around the results will be different  - Uhuru and Raila will find themselves in ICC and Wananchi will make them pay in a way or another .

[Nowayhaha]

Funny enough Uhuru was the one prior to 2013 elections going around Kenya holding prayers for peaceful elections  .

These prayers will be required .

Yes unless Uhuru sobers up - it going down. Uhuru having misused the deep state and system so much it's now ineffective - is on his way to reviving mungiki/chinkoror/musembeji/kisumu boys - there is now a trend of heckling everywhere - and open tribalism preaching.Hustler nation has yet to respond to his bait - because they realize Uhuru is trying to incite a premature war - so he can extinguish hustler nation as dangerous.

Ruto will stay the course but shit will hit the fan in 2022 for sure if Uhuru is determined to mess kenya.

The signs of war have been out there since Raila oathed himself as a president , Since the Kibra by-election where Uhuru congratulated the violence used , In Kilifi and Kwale by elections where Joho goons (some headed by his cousins) , well known in Mombasa exported the violence there in the name of " protecting the votes ", sponsored heckling by Kamanda , Oluoch , Arati and Kajwang  and Matiangi/Kibicho letting this pass .
We are headed for a plain all out Vita . Brace yourselves

Yes this time round - they will be the target - they want to incite tribal war - but people will go for class war.
Poor people attacking poor people will not happen. All poor people will attack the rich. It's has huge pay off - rather than stealing a bicyle - you could steal more in dynasties.

RV, Its inevitable , and Seems its clear Uhuru and Raila want that to  happen . Hence the reason of BBI and a referendum .
They benefitted immensely from 2007 P.E.V. --> Raila became PM and got half of the cabinet
Uhuru became DP , Minister of Finance and eventually managed to inherit Mt Kenya which propelled him to Presidency.
There is no way we can change a constitution during peace time and expect things to be normal .
However this time around the results will be different  - Uhuru and Raila will find themselves in ICC and Wananchi will make them pay in a way or another .

[Nowayhaha]

Kisiis co-existed peacefully with Kalenjins and blossomed during KANU era simply because they were peaceful people . The likes of Arati will make Kisiis be looked as people against other tribes . There is noway you will attack other tribes in this case  Kalenjins the way he did and never expect repercussions of some form . The best is attack Ruto as person and not Kalenjins- Even Uhuru used to have a footnote when he had his differences with Raila  that he does not have problems with Luo but Raila alone .
What Uhuru has started by attacking Kikuyus and Kalenjin has resulted to  this . When the P.E.V. is over in 2022 , Uhuru will go through the same process he underwent in ICC  , This time around he wont be vying for presidency so no shelter to run from . No Mt Kenya supporters to use as collateral only family support  and if he will take them through what they went through poleni kwao .  Within a matter of 2 Years Uhuru tribulations aged Mama Ngina at an accelerated speed .

Mama Ngina in 2011

Mama Ngina in 2013

Kisii hasira tupu......on this one I think Simba Arati won and stupid Osoro lost badly. Osoro should have waited for his chance to respond to Simba through the microphone.

[GeeMail]

He is now a Mungiki leader essentially having run away from PORK - aiming to be GEMA leader - but obviously GEMA people are too smart for him.

Uhuru need prayers and so does Kenya.

When president start misbehaving like late Nyachae did in Gusii by sending Gusii warrior to shot Ruto for attending an harambee.

Many Gusii were killed, raped and property burnt by that small Nyachae action.

Leaders should behave like Ruto - measure your WORDS.

Uhuru has big podium - he can choose to burn this country - if he wants - and if he think the police or army will protect him - he is wrong - because they could also split into tribal enclaves - and we have civil war.

Kenya is not exceptional

We need leaders like MOI  - who understand the gravity of their position.  As tribal as Moi was - he would never openly advocate for tribalism. Why would UHURU DO THIS? He is desperate to fight the Hustler Nation and is willing to go to any length.

When Hustler Nation rise - don't say - you did not see it - like you said in 2007. Start the war - but you'll not end it.

What does Uhuru have to do with this? At this point, you are starting to see Uhuru in your shadow.

Not to interfere with your mono-dialogue with Nowyaya, eti Moi did not advocate tribalism. You think we're children or what? Who brought state-supervised tribal clashes to Kenya?

[Kadudu]

GeeMail, you know sometimes I wonder if we are here debating with children. Why do people try to change history? We all know what kind of a president Moi was. One can argue he had to use tribalism to survive, but that he was not a tribalist. Surely?

Now it is been sold here that the Kisii only prospered under the supervision of Kalejins and the Kisii were so well behaved, that they were tolerated.

Next we will be told Jomo kenyatta was not a land grabber. He bought it on market price. We are yet to see the receipts of the sums he paid for land the size of a province and also would like to know how he financed the pruchases.

Not to interfere with your mono-dialogue with Nowyaya, eti Moi did not advocate tribalism. You think we're children or what? Who brought state-supervised tribal clashes to Kenya?

[RV Pundit]

Moi never publicly advocated for tribalism. Obviously like everyone else he practised. But to express an ideology of tribalism like Uhuru has done is the lowest any president has done.

We know Uhuru has been tribal - his appointment - speak a lot.

But for him to publicly express an ideology of tribalism is very low point in Kenya.

GeeMail, you know sometimes I wonder if we are here debating with children. Why do people try to change history? We all know what kind of a president Moi was. One can argue he had to use tribalism to survive, but that he was not a tribalist. Surely?

Now it is been sold here that the Kisii only prospered under the supervision of Kalejins and the Kisii were so well behaved, that they were tolerated.

Next we will be told Jomo kenyatta was not a land grabber. He bought it on market price. We are yet to see the receipts of the sums he paid for land the size of a province and also would like to know how he financed the pruchases.

Not to interfere with your mono-dialogue with Nowyaya, eti Moi did not advocate tribalism. You think we're children or what? Who brought state-supervised tribal clashes to Kenya?