Is Thika from rcb

[KenyanPlato]

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Interesting. Diaspora guys are the new capitalists. Doing it diferently and commercially. I see a guy innovating on the fly

[RV Pundit]

Nice when you're done paying school fees; don't try it when you still have kids in the nest; I rather the Ghana-Kenya hotelier who came and opened an hotel. Thika if he is Engineer should focus on engineering in kenya and do this farming as hobby kind of think - otherwise the ROI are doubtful.

If he opened a small engineering shop and started building some stuff we import from china and india - he could make money enough to raise a family

[KenyanPlato]

Nice when you're done paying school fees; don't try it when you still have kids in the nest; I rather the Ghana-Kenya hotelier who came and opened an hotel. Thika if he is Engineer should focus on engineering in kenya and do this farming as hobby kind of think - otherwise the ROI are doubtful.

If he opened a small engineering shop and started building some stuff we import from china and india - he could make money enough to raise a family

Seems like a kid from those kikuyu milliobaires family. He oribaly has a property that brings $5k a month. This is yo keep busy

[RV Pundit]

They need to disclose that before he encourage people to come and farm chicken - and end up in penury. This one is a hobby. If you move to kenya - international schooling for your kids - 2 kids - will kill you - you'll need 3000 dollars monthly for their schooling or maybe 2000 if you go cheap. Before other expenses. I doubt you'll take your kids to 844 and you want them go back to America every often.

Seems like a kid from those kikuyu milliobaires family. He oribaly has a property that brings $5k a month. This is yo keep busy

[KenyanPlato]

Actually 844 is better in kenya. International schools in kenya are just means to fleece parents

[RV Pundit]

if your kids started in american system - it will be hard to take them to 8-4-4 - and all the american tweing /lifestyle/- and if you need to take back - so you cannot just slide in githunguri like your never left - unless you kids have left the nest or you're leaving them abroad. That to me is the number decision you have to take. It will be most expensive item for on your list -10-20K per kid per year. Rent you can fix by buying a house easily. And food is no issue. Medical - insurance. So kids education - and then everything will be good to go - including chicken coop - otherwise you'll have to start, mary local kenya, get kenyan kids and all that- which is ideal for returning diaspora. Leave wife and kids abroad as much as possible - come solo and do 50-50. If you're single - well buy yourself a self-contained (Rv) and move the world.

Actually 844 is better in kenya. International schools in kenya are just means to fleece parents

[KenyanPlato]

Women love american life. Get up go to work and spend weekend moving from one mall to the other. Most women wont last kenya 6 months. The best is to leave them here ans migrate solo. Let them visit. Get yourself a local from deep ukambani and settle down

[gout]

Cattle  goats and doper sheep are good business especially when you have some incomes from consultancy. They are also great insurance - you will always find someone in need of a cow or a goat. We are on these two meats everyday. Even here, you will be competing with maasai/borana whose main cost is the drugs and the herdsboy and cattle rustlers.   

Chicken to expensive venture which keeps demand down. Pork prices are low but our loyalty to beef and mutton means it will never go mainstream.
Rabbit - I keep getting gifts and I never like it. 

My advice to romantic farmers starts with the question - when did you last consume what you want to farm? How often do people you know consume it?

[gout]

Yeah. There are all sort of intangible advantages in these feel good motivational stories which unless you scratch the surface will make you suicidal. If he is a Gecaga that means is a Kenyatta kin.

They need to disclose that before he encourage people to come and farm chicken - and end up in penury. This one is a hobby. If you move to kenya - international schooling for your kids - 2 kids - will kill you - you'll need 3000 dollars monthly for their schooling or maybe 2000 if you go cheap. Before other expenses. I doubt you'll take your kids to 844 and you want them go back to America every often.

Seems like a kid from those kikuyu milliobaires family. He oribaly has a property that brings $5k a month. This is yo keep busy

[RV Pundit]

Yes, this works, once you're done making mullah in America and wife is post-menopause -kids are in college and independent. Come to kenya and find yourself a small girl to keep your alive for long; you'll be sneaking to US for medicals and when things are elephant economically - you can go and work for a few months; say during summer; As soon as the autumn approaches; you run back to your kachungwa in kwinya; and enjoy life rearing chicken and ducks; Just don't let the new family get used to US luxury - they can enjoy the best in kenya.

To come on a one way ticket -  and with a small family-unless you have really solid investment - will end in premium tears.

Romantizing farming of chicken and sheep is the surest way to poverty. Those things can die in one fell swoop.

It's better to come to Kwinya and continue with your previous career...if you were accountant ...find yourself american companies in kenya...and try get a job or NGOS. That salary will go a long way.

Women love american life. Get up go to work and spend weekend moving from one mall to the other. Most women wont last kenya 6 months. The best is to leave them here ans migrate solo. Let them visit. Get yourself a local from deep ukambani and settle down

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Interesting. Diaspora guys are the new capitalists. Doing it diferently and commercially. I see a guy innovating on the fly

KP,
Kwiinya is where the mullah is.
Like the kwuy in the vid, I WISH I had come home 10 years earlier.
Do not waste time abroad even for one second once you are done with school.
I used to think I was very successful and doing well hapo Babylon crusing the freeways in my Escalade shwaaaa and well invested kabsha kabsha.
Waaapi? When I returned is when I made 100 times more than I used to make uko and in 1/10th of the time.
Reasons:
1) With diaspora experience, compe is little to zero.
2) Cost of living and labour is dirt cheap compared to Babylon. This alone will save you MILLIONS.
3) Taxes are super low
4) Discrimination experienced majuu is  non-existent here so achieving your full potential is super easy. Majuu youa re operating at 30% at best.
5) Property prices rise like crazy here while majuu they are flat to declining
6) Kwiinya is a developing economy meaning if you invest in any of the most basics (infra, housing, food via agriculture etc) you will make moolah hand over fist
7) Work ethic here is a big joke, so when you fika here after working 20 hr days majuu, see number 1) above again...uko mbele tu sana
8 ) Kenyans are diaspora manenos worshippers, any diaspora idea they will jump on - see KFC, Burger King etc. Packed to capacity hapa daily. Bring such an idea hapa and yuppies hapa will throw money at you like its Christmas
9) Regulatory costs are a pittance compared to majuu
10) Starting and running a biz hapa is a breeze.

Need I say more. I will give you one example. This one dude was my classmate. Alaramba sakafu raaaaaaa almost last in class. Went to some no-name community colle in TX..dropped ouit after 1st sem. DId manoki for 10 years. Relocated with a paltry 100k USD savings in 2011. If you saw him now you would not know whether to laugh or cry. Tunjamaa ni tuMBIGSHOT with distributorships for fombe, large scale faming and is building an apartment complex in Kili. Moti is Porsche Cayenne. If he stayed in USA doing manoki for the past 9 years would he be anywhere? Of course not. And he says the same thing we all are saying. He wishes he came back 5 years earlier!!!! These storos are a dime a dozen hapa Kwiinya, I tells ya!

[KenyanPlato]

Interesting. Diaspora guys are the new capitalists. Doing it diferently and commercially. I see a guy innovating on the fly

KP,
Kwiinya is where the mullah is.
Like the kwuy in the vid, I WISH I had come home 10 years earlier.
Do not waste time abroad even for one second once you are done with school.
I used to think I was very successful and doing well hapo Babylon crusing the freeways in my Escalade shwaaaa and well invested kabsha kabsha.
Waaapi? When I returned is when I made 100 times more than I used to make uko and in 1/10th of the time.
Reasons:
1) With diaspora experience, compe is little to zero.
2) Cost of living and labour is dirt cheap compared to Babylon. This alone will save you MILLIONS.
3) Taxes are super low
4) Discrimination experienced majuu is  non-existent here so achieving your full potential is super easy. Majuu youa re operating at 30% at best.
5) Property prices rise like crazy here while majuu they are flat to declining
6) Kwiinya is a developing economy meaning if you invest in any of the most basics (infra, housing, food via agriculture etc) you will make moolah hand over fist
7) Work ethic here is a big joke, so when you fika here after working 20 hr days majuu, see number 1) above again...uko mbele tu sana
8 ) Kenyans are diaspora manenos worshippers, any diaspora idea they will jump on - see KFC, Burger King etc. Packed to capacity hapa daily. Bring such an idea hapa and yuppies hapa will throw money at you like its Christmas
9) Regulatory costs are a pittance compared to majuu
10) Starting and running a biz hapa is a breeze.

Need I say more. I will give you one example. This one dude was my classmate. Alaramba sakafu raaaaaaa almost last in class. Went to some no-name community colle in TX..dropped ouit after 1st sem. DId manoki for 10 years. Relocated with a paltry 100k USD savings in 2011. If you saw him now you would not know whether to laugh or cry. Tunjamaa ni tuMBIGSHOT with distributorships for fombe, large scale faming and is building an apartment complex in Kili. Moti is Porsche Cayenne. If he stayed in USA doing manoki for the past 9 years would he be anywhere? Of course not. And he says the same thing we all are saying. He wishes he came back 5 years earlier!!!! These storos are a dime a dozen hapa Kwiinya, I tells ya!

You are right. Those guys that left 20 years ago are way ahead. I am on my way to come and crush the last half of this life. Wacha babylon ikae tu. At least they can wire my pension and ssn. I bet you $6k a month in kenya goes alomg way