33 Years Is Long Time In Politics

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In 1986 she was praising him, a newly installed populist leader still smelling like the bush.

In 2019 she was receiving death threats from a geriatric autocrat.

[RV Pundit]

Museveni is determined to die in power.

[KenyanPlato]

In 1986 she was praising him, a newly installed populist leader still smelling like the bush.

In 2019 she was receiving death threats from a geriatric autocrat.

I didn't see any threats from Wonderful dictator. This seems like a over zealous opponent of the MP. She has done very well from herself under Museveni and she should be glad that the wonderful dictator has created enviroment for this to happen

BTW there are no credible stories of Kaguta being Corrupt or having wealth stashed abroad. It seems he leaves a very low key lifestyle. He is still using the same tailor he used when was in the bush

Museveni deserves to die in office. He has really turned around this shit hole. It is no longer a place where mzungu go to show how bad negroes are in self rule

[KenyanPlato]

Here is Museveni state visit to Rwanda. The visit was to reassure Hutu govt that the Tutsi refugees won't use Uganda as a launching ground for their attacks in Rwanda. You see brilliance of young Museveni. Clarity of his agenda and the mastery of delivery. I think in kenya our local politics have just made everyone become a lowlife. No politician is able to rise above the murky tribal politics and state cronyism to master the art of the big view

[Arcadian_Dreamer]

I didn't see any threats from Wonderful dictator. This seems like a over zealous opponent of the MP. She has done very well from herself under Museveni and she should be glad that the wonderful dictator has created enviroment for this to happen

BTW there are no credible stories of Kaguta being Corrupt or having wealth stashed abroad. It seems he leaves a very low key lifestyle. He is still using the same tailor he used when was in the bush

Museveni deserves to die in office. He has really turned around this shit hole. It is no longer a place where mzungu go to show how bad negroes are in self rule

These two statements are largely true. Kaguta and Kagame are different breed of dictator also Meles while he was alive in that their primary objective isn't personal accumulation of wealth, they are strongmen who love power. They sort of get how modern economies function and are  competent unlike the Mnangagwas, and Kabilas of the continent. Museveni use to tell investors to call his personal phone if they were solicited for bribes and he meant it. He has turned around Uganda.

Second, who is a better choice? None, they are no politicians or figures who can command the same authority as him. Buganda are loathed by the tribes as clannish, insular and domineering, so no one wants them to come to power. As long as Kaguta is alive they won't. Small tribes will support him.

[KenyanPlato]

This is like a biography

[KenyanPlato]

I didn't see any threats from Wonderful dictator. This seems like a over zealous opponent of the MP. She has done very well from herself under Museveni and she should be glad that the wonderful dictator has created enviroment for this to happen

BTW there are no credible stories of Kaguta being Corrupt or having wealth stashed abroad. It seems he leaves a very low key lifestyle. He is still using the same tailor he used when was in the bush

Museveni deserves to die in office. He has really turned around this shit hole. It is no longer a place where mzungu go to show how bad negroes are in self rule

These two statements are largely true. Kaguta and Kagame are different breed of dictator also Meles while he was alive in that their primary objective isn't personal accumulation of wealth, they are strongmen who love power. They sort of get how modern economies function and are  competent unlike the Mnangagwas, and Kabilas of the continent. Museveni use to tell investors to call his personal phone if they were solicited for bribes and he meant it. He has turned around Uganda.

Second, who is a better choice? None, they are no politicians or figures who can command the same authority as him. Buganda are loathed by the tribes as clannish, insular and domineering, so no one wants them to come to power. As long as Kaguta is alive they won't. Small tribes will support him.

Yeah my friend has this girl who is Buganda. Her vitriol against Museveni is very tribal and it would dangerous to have such a group in power. I guess they never recovered from Kabaka loss

We really need someone like this in Kenya to emerge. We need a total sanitation of Kenyan politics. We have to kill Crony capitalism and the state capture. We need a revolutionary guy like stevo to come and clean up. However, I think Kenya is so fragmented but you could do it. If moi had half the brain Kaguta has he could have done it because he was never seen as threat initially and he didn't have a TRIBAL base to shield him politically. That why I think a small marginal tribe leader in kenya may be able to detribalize our politics

[Arcadian_Dreamer]

Yeah my friend has this girl who is Buganda. Her vitriol against Museveni is very tribal and it would dangerous to have such a group in power. I guess they never recovered from Kabaka loss

We really need someone like this in Kenya to emerge. We need a total sanitation of Kenyan politics. We have to kill Crony capitalism and the state capture. We need a revolutionary guy like stevo to come and clean up. However, I think Kenya is so fragmented but you could do it. If moi had half the brain Kaguta has he could have done it because he was never seen as threat initially and he didn't have a TRIBAL base to shield him politically. That why I think a small marginal tribe leader in kenya may be able to detribalize our politics

Yes, Bugandas can't stand him. I lived in Uganda for sometime so I know first hand, the hatred is deep and on so many levels. But he knows how to scare them, he would tell them I'm still young if you depose me I will go into the bush and restart my war all over. Bugandas are easily my least favorite tribe in UG, if you think Kikuyus are entitled, tribal and presumptuous wait till you encounter them. They think UG belongs to them, it doesn't help their tongue is the lingua franca of the country.

Kenya is a gone case. The time to fix it was 30 years ago.

Moi didn't have the brains or character. He was mild mannered guy who got slapped around in the beginning, he became rough and dictatorial to survive.

Who is Stevo?

[KenyanPlato]

NRA - Sina Majeshi

[KenyanPlato]

Yeah my friend has this girl who is Buganda. Her vitriol against Museveni is very tribal and it would dangerous to have such a group in power. I guess they never recovered from Kabaka loss

We really need someone like this in Kenya to emerge. We need a total sanitation of Kenyan politics. We have to kill Crony capitalism and the state capture. We need a revolutionary guy like stevo to come and clean up. However, I think Kenya is so fragmented but you could do it. If moi had half the brain Kaguta has he could have done it because he was never seen as threat initially and he didn't have a TRIBAL base to shield him politically. That why I think a small marginal tribe leader in kenya may be able to detribalize our politics

Yes, Bugandas can't stand him. I lived in Uganda for sometime so I know first hand, the hatred is deep and on so many levels. But he knows how to scare them, he would tell them I'm still young if you depose me I will go into the bush and restart my war all over. Bugandas are easily my least favorite tribe in UG, if you think Kikuyus are entitled, tribal and presumptuous wait till you encounter them. They think UG belongs to them, it doesn't help their tongue is the lingua franca of the country.

Kenya is a gone case. The time to fix it was 30 years ago.

Moi didn't have the brains or character. He was mild mannered guy who got slapped around in the beginning, he became rough and dictatorial to survive.

Who is Stevo? Museveni (SEBO) I think that what they call him

Moi was as a result of Kikuyu Supremacy gone wrong. All that Talent in Kenya and we ended with least educated coward. Yeah Moi used to be GEMA crooks bitch. They had no respect for him. The only thing that saved kenya is that Moi had a lot of work to do to be able to consolidate power. The fact too he was a Tugen made it hard for him to lean on the Nandis or Kipsigis.. Anyway you are right all the talent that was in kenya the revolutionary type was wasted in the 24 years of moi.. The current generation is so useless.. I am actually afraid that after people born in 70s dies Kenya will go to shit. the young people are uninspiring dull morons that have zero ambition

[KenyanPlato]

Here is NRA parade in 1988

IT is seems Museveni is doing a power play here with Habaramiyana .. he has Tusti looking military in the tent. He must have felt insecure..

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Here is NRA parade in 1988

IT is seems Museveni is doing a power play here with Habaramiyana .. he has Tusti looking military in the tent. He must have felt insecure..

It's interesting to see Fred Rwigyema side by side with Habyarimana.  Rwigyema was very popular.  Two years later he would be killed(by Kagame?) launching an invasion of Habyarimana's Rwanda.

At some point I thought I saw Salim Saleh, one of Musevenis fronts for grand corruption.

[RV Pundit]

Yes Salim Saleh is basically co-investor in most of industries and land in Uganda - and is definitely working with Museveni as partner with Bahindi and Chinese. The good thing it's less like kenya 10% from gov - more like you give them shareholding for any serious private venture.

The public funds/procurements kind of corruption we have in kenya is rare in Uganda. It more Saleh stealing land - and offering them to Indians and Chinese - for huge cut - in cahoot with Museveni.

The Banyakole are also in key critical positions every where - if it's not army guy  - it's banyakole.

It's interesting to see Fred Rwigyema side by side with Habyarimana.  Rwigyema was very popular.  Two years later he would be killed(by Kagame?) launching an invasion of Habyarimana's Rwanda.

At some point I thought I saw Salim Saleh, one of Musevenis fronts for grand corruption.

[KenyanPlato]

So much to unpack here

So this Rwigwema guy he was only 32 and a leading commander. What was his role in NRA? How did NRA leave uganda? The Owana guy claims that they sneaked out of uganda while museveni was abroad..but i doubt they would have left without his blessing..how did kagame endup as vice president if he had killed his main rival? Why did the president leave power for kagame? How did kagame fallout with museveni? Was during drc incursion  to overthrow mobile?

[RV Pundit]

Why NRA - these guys were war mercenaries- they started in Tanzania - went to Mozambique - then Uganda - and anywhere - and eventualy took power home -and continued to congo. That was period when USSR-USA were funding such kind of nonsense. Nowadays it very difficult to do that. Africa gov have become stronger - then you could easily overthrow most of them - now it's tough - USSR died - terrorist happened - so CIA are careful who they finance to start war. Otherwise then it would be easy to recruit refugees to go fight in their home country. Now smart refugees are being airlifted and converted to citizens of developed world.

So much to unpack here

So this Rwigwema guy he was only 32 and a leading commander. What was his role in NRA? How did NRA leave uganda? The Owana guy claims that they sneaked out of uganda while museveni was abroad..but i doubt they would have left without his blessing..how did kagame endup as vice president if he had killed his main rival? Why did the president leave power for kagame? How did kagame fallout with museveni? Was during drc incursion  to overthrow mobile?

[Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants]

So much to unpack here

So this Rwigwema guy he was only 32 and a leading commander. What was his role in NRA? How did NRA leave uganda? The Owana guy claims that they sneaked out of uganda while museveni was abroad..but i doubt they would have left without his blessing..how did kagame endup as vice president if he had killed his main rival? Why did the president leave power for kagame? How did kagame fallout with museveni? Was during drc incursion  to overthrow mobile?

Yeah, these dudes were young.  Like Pundit mentions, they were possible because the place was infested with failed states basically.  The Rwanda Crisis: History of a Genocide by Gerard Prunier is a good place to look.