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BBI funds to be used in Covid-19 war
« on: April 01, 2020, 09:22:32 AM »
This is beginning of end of BBI then we move over to a new circus. Already Matiangi is being thrown under the bus after Mutahi kagwe and corona popped up. More popcorn please. Uhuru i feel has found a very convenient loophole to abandon baba and no one can blame him.
https://www.nation.co.ke/news/Sh11bn-BBI-funds-to-be-used-Covid-19-war/1056-5510430-iu2ukjz/index.html

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Re: BBI funds to be used in Covid-19 war
« Reply #1 on: April 01, 2020, 09:58:35 AM »
After Corona is done with us - the last thing people will want to hear is another divisive issue like BBI. The first priority will be to recover the economy and having a referendum to fix what is not broken - aka - will be part of many things that will be cut off.

Uhuru and his gov - are clearly powerless - in the face of CORONA - and by the time - he emerges from it - he will be a lame-duck - unpopular president who probably will be blamed for it.

This is beginning of end of BBI then we move over to a new circus. Already Matiangi is being thrown under the bus after Mutahi kagwe and corona popped up. More popcorn please. Uhuru i feel has found a very convenient loophole to abandon baba and no one can blame him.
https://www.nation.co.ke/news/Sh11bn-BBI-funds-to-be-used-Covid-19-war/1056-5510430-iu2ukjz/index.html


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Re: BBI funds to be used in Covid-19 war
« Reply #2 on: April 01, 2020, 10:03:44 AM »
The way Uhuru handles corona will define his legacy, with faulty starts like beating up people after curfew he needs to redeem himself by propping up wanjikus financially in these hard times.

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Re: BBI funds to be used in Covid-19 war
« Reply #3 on: April 01, 2020, 11:42:28 AM »
I wonder where he will get the finances to prop Wanjiku. Unless we get debt relief - things may go haywire. Tax collection this coming months will reduce as economic activities are ground to a halt - esp if we go for lockdown. Gov will be so broke - we might start hearing retrenchment and salary reduction - and worse inflation may rears it's ugly head.
The way Uhuru handles corona will define his legacy, with faulty starts like beating up people after curfew he needs to redeem himself by propping up wanjikus financially in these hard times.

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Re: BBI funds to be used in Covid-19 war
« Reply #4 on: April 01, 2020, 12:56:23 PM »
How about refunding Wanjiku the commission he received for SGR projects? We have to start somewhere and I can assure you it is not little money. This regime squandered the chance to have some cushion for hard times. Even now new Eurobonds will not help Kenya.

I wonder where he will get the finances to prop Wanjiku. Unless we get debt relief - things may go haywire. Tax collection this coming months will reduce as economic activities are ground to a halt - esp if we go for lockdown. Gov will be so broke - we might start hearing retrenchment and salary reduction - and worse inflation may rears it's ugly head.

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Re: BBI funds to be used in Covid-19 war
« Reply #5 on: April 01, 2020, 01:08:22 PM »
Our hope is COVID may deal a mortal blow about half our political thieving class :) and it seem a fair disease. But you know Kenya corruption - doctors will be receiving millions to switch patients at ICU :)
How about refunding Wanjiku the commission he received for SGR projects? We have to start somewhere and I can assure you it is not little money. This regime squandered the chance to have some cushion for hard times. Even now new Eurobonds will not help Kenya.

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Re: BBI funds to be used in Covid-19 war
« Reply #6 on: April 01, 2020, 01:27:17 PM »
How about refunding Wanjiku the commission he received for SGR projects? We have to start somewhere and I can assure you it is not little money. This regime squandered the chance to have some cushion for hard times. Even now new Eurobonds will not help Kenya.

I wonder where he will get the finances to prop Wanjiku. Unless we get debt relief - things may go haywire. Tax collection this coming months will reduce as economic activities are ground to a halt - esp if we go for lockdown. Gov will be so broke - we might start hearing retrenchment and salary reduction - and worse inflation may rears it's ugly head.
I heard It was about 30 B KES he used part of it around 5B to buy baba and handshake alternatively he can talk to his Chinese friends and tell them we can't pay loan we need a bailout.

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Re: BBI funds to be used in Covid-19 war
« Reply #7 on: April 01, 2020, 01:28:10 PM »
According to MoH, Kenya has a total of 585 ICU beds and 85% of them are currently occupied. That tells it it all.

Our hope is COVID may deal a mortal blow about half our political thieving class :) and it seem a fair disease. But you know Kenya corruption - doctors will be receiving millions to switch patients at ICU :)

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Re: BBI funds to be used in Covid-19 war
« Reply #8 on: April 01, 2020, 01:31:12 PM »
In 2013 Kenya had a debt of 1.8T Ksh. Today it stands at 6.2T. Where did this money go? At least not in the health system.

I heard It was about 30 B KES he used part of it around 5B to buy baba and handshake alternatively he can talk to his Chinese friends and tell them we can't pay loan we need a bailout.

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Re: BBI funds to be used in Covid-19 war
« Reply #9 on: April 01, 2020, 05:04:59 PM »
Elect a drunkard and a thief then expect the country to prosper...oooh economic take off....oooh double stack SGR trains...watu wakule ujeuri yao. Finish the journey with your uhuru quietly.
In 2013 Kenya had a debt of 1.8T Ksh. Today it stands at 6.2T. Where did this money go? At least not in the health system.

I heard It was about 30 B KES he used part of it around 5B to buy baba and handshake alternatively he can talk to his Chinese friends and tell them we can't pay loan we need a bailout.

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Re: BBI funds to be used in Covid-19 war
« Reply #10 on: April 01, 2020, 05:26:26 PM »
Murume,  You sure? From (my) grapevine is that Uhuru is fanatically against his DP. He's asking DP to resign even as Govt design Corona lockdown. And DP has not responded and I don't think he will. He is constitutionally protected.

Nope, these two clowns Raila/Uhuru aren't giving up on BBI. This i know cause some persons want assistance with something..

This is beginning of end of BBI then we move over to a new circus. Already Matiangi is being thrown under the bus after Mutahi kagwe and corona popped up. More popcorn please. Uhuru i feel has found a very convenient loophole to abandon baba and no one can blame him.
https://www.nation.co.ke/news/Sh11bn-BBI-funds-to-be-used-Covid-19-war/1056-5510430-iu2ukjz/index.html

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Re: BBI funds to be used in Covid-19 war
« Reply #11 on: April 01, 2020, 05:33:30 PM »
To be honest that is a lot of money. A lot for Kenya. The economy would be "feeling it"; there would be sign of such cash being spent in Kenya... Even if it's debt (someone else money!) Kenya would be feeling/seeing it.

Again, I believe the money doesn't actually come into Kenya but deposited somewhere in New York or London or Beijing Accounts; then companies and individuals being paid huge chunk of it are not local. They are foreign so dollars are just moved from one New York Account to another within same bank or another bank round the block. For China loan, huge chunk of it never leave Beijing. At the end, no significant money get into Kenya. Only necessary to pay wages (mostly low wages) and local expenses get into the country.

NB: Even government mafia 10% cut and other bribes do not get deposited in Kenya but overseas accounts.

In 2013 Kenya had a debt of 1.8T Ksh. Today it stands at 6.2T. Where did this money go? At least not in the health system.

I heard It was about 30 B KES he used part of it around 5B to buy baba and handshake alternatively he can talk to his Chinese friends and tell them we can't pay loan we need a bailout.

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Re: BBI funds to be used in Covid-19 war
« Reply #12 on: April 01, 2020, 07:10:22 PM »
He will soon discover that he is powerless...when nobody pays attention to him and start focusing on a post-Uhuru Kenya. If he is man enough - let him bring BBI back - after this carnage. The prioritize have changed. We are going thro a war with a disease.
Murume,  You sure? From (my) grapevine is that Uhuru is fanatically against his DP. He's asking DP to resign even as Govt design Corona lockdown. And DP has not responded and I don't think he will. He is constitutionally protected.

Nope, these two clowns Raila/Uhuru aren't giving up on BBI. This i know cause some persons want assistance with something..

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Re: BBI funds to be used in Covid-19 war
« Reply #13 on: April 01, 2020, 08:07:37 PM »
How quickly things change...BBI is dead and Baba is no where

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Re: BBI funds to be used in Covid-19 war
« Reply #14 on: April 01, 2020, 08:40:28 PM »
They will "celebrate how being together through BBI" has defeated the virus. They have no shame or sense of priority. I surmise the divide line as before Corona;  But true, soon or later Uhuru will realize he can only throw kicks of a dying donkey as his term near the end.
Only thing to kill this BBI is for Uhuru to graciously accept he has served his two terms and leave. Otherwise he has no other straw to hang on to.


He will soon discover that he is powerless...when nobody pays attention to him and start focusing on a post-Uhuru Kenya. If he is man enough - let him bring BBI back - after this carnage. The prioritize have changed. We are going thro a war with a disease.
Murume,  You sure? From (my) grapevine is that Uhuru is fanatically against his DP. He's asking DP to resign even as Govt design Corona lockdown. And DP has not responded and I don't think he will. He is constitutionally protected.

Nope, these two clowns Raila/Uhuru aren't giving up on BBI. This i know cause some persons want assistance with something..

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Re: BBI funds to be used in Covid-19 war
« Reply #15 on: April 02, 2020, 03:10:49 AM »
The new constitution cures such misadventures by making the process of amendment very hard. BBI have not even started on step 1. Now with Corona - there will be no budget for such luxuries in the 2020/2021 budget. SO we can only talk about 2021/2022 - which is an election year - and Uhuru will be so lame-duck - and dealing with tattered legacy.

Raila and Orengo wanted BBI done with by June or latest Sept this year. That ain't happening.

The prioritizes have changed...CORONA and it's effects are now the top priority for 2020.

They will "celebrate how being together through BBI" has defeated the virus. They have no shame or sense of priority. I surmise the divide line as before Corona;  But true, soon or later Uhuru will realize he can only throw kicks of a dying donkey as his term near the end.
Only thing to kill this BBI is for Uhuru to graciously accept he has served his two terms and leave. Otherwise he has no other straw to hang on to.

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« Reply #16 on: April 02, 2020, 08:45:37 AM »
Oops! Wrong thread. Hey, what happened to the delete feature? Can't find it.

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Re: BBI funds to be used in Covid-19 war
« Reply #17 on: April 03, 2020, 01:55:28 AM »
I don't know what BBI is beyond taming the hustler, and keeping baba grounded.  If that is the main plot, I think it just continues in another way.  The way I see it, with or without covid-19, a baba fallout with kamwana is straight back to where they left off in 2018.  Instability.  So they have to figure something out.
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