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Re: Ruto tries to blackmail Uhuru,this guy is surely desperate
« Reply #20 on: October 15, 2019, 09:36:00 PM »
That's ok - hope is more vital than water for humans. Uhuru sponsored Handshake & BBI - to flush Jubilee MOU into the sewer - without facing Ruto wrath. You told us yourself - throughout their first term - how Ruto is very dangerous if scorned. The jujitsu move is on Ruto not Babu. Jomo 2 & Gema are not about to hand over power to Moi 2.0. Uhuru interests are aligned with Babu at present.
Well that is one way to look at it.There other way is that Uhuru after Raila boycott of elections knew he was to make life hell on him so why not placate the fool.I still think 2022 is Ruto-Kiunjuri to lose.Uhuru is doing what Moi and Kibaki did to Raila..contain the destructive fool and eventually leave him high & dry.Of course BBI won't happen...just throw the can down like all previous commissions and reports

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Re: Ruto tries to blackmail Uhuru,this guy is surely desperate
« Reply #21 on: October 15, 2019, 09:39:56 PM »
How is that Mariga experiment working out? This is a real test for Ruto 2022. If he wins in Kibra his stock for 2022 will be sky high but if he lose it will all be downhill moving forward. I noticed all luhya politicians have abandoned Mariga, he is on his own well surrounded by empty head kikuyu politicians like that failed musician Jaguar and washed out comedian Kiarie....why would Ruto wish this on Nairobi people. You rig a musician in starehe, a comedian in Dagoretti, a criminal as governor and now a non registered voter in Kibra...what did Nairobi people do to Ruto? Nairobi deserve better representation.
Ruto doesn't need to win Kibra.The rest Nairobi will decide.

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Re: Ruto tries to blackmail Uhuru,this guy is surely desperate
« Reply #22 on: October 15, 2019, 09:40:20 PM »
How is that Mariga experiment working out? This is a real test for Ruto 2022. If he wins in Kibra his stock for 2022 will be sky high but if he lose it will all be downhill moving forward. I noticed all luhya politicians have abandoned Mariga, he is on his own well surrounded by empty head kikuyu politicians like that failed musician Jaguar and washed out comedian Kiarie....why would Ruto wish this on Nairobi people. You rig a musician in starehe, a comedian in Dagoretti, a criminal as governor and now a non registered voter in Kibra...what did Nairobi people do to Ruto? Nairobi deserve better representation.

I would not rule out instagram-socialite Mariga trailing Owalo when the receipts are turned in.

His campaign is already whining about a scuffle.  He is not made for this shit.

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Re: Ruto tries to blackmail Uhuru,this guy is surely desperate
« Reply #23 on: October 15, 2019, 09:44:07 PM »
How is that Mariga experiment working out? This is a real test for Ruto 2022. If he wins in Kibra his stock for 2022 will be sky high but if he lose it will all be downhill moving forward. I noticed all luhya politicians have abandoned Mariga, he is on his own well surrounded by empty head kikuyu politicians like that failed musician Jaguar and washed out comedian Kiarie....why would Ruto wish this on Nairobi people. You rig a musician in starehe, a comedian in Dagoretti, a criminal as governor and now a non registered voter in Kibra...what did Nairobi people do to Ruto? Nairobi deserve better representation.

I would not rule out instagram-socialite Mariga trailing Owalo when the receipts are turned in.

His campaign is already whining about a scuffle.  He is not made for this shit.

only in odm zones are elections that violent..it something Raila started in 90s.Jaramogi eschewed violence and Raila thought his father was a coward hence 82 coup and his attempts to bulldoze his way to leadership.Elsewhere elections are peaceful.So far ODM have killed two people in kibra.Before Raila even a white man like Philip Leakey won Langata/kibra.The moment Raila landed out of jail he started feeding luo gangs on bhangs and deaths have occurred in every kibra elections...just like it does in Nyanza...leading to rise of thugs as MPs meanwhile in say Kalenjin the average senator or governor is not even 35yrs.Most MPs and MCAs are 20-30yrs old because there is true democracy.You want Mariga to toughen for Raila slum dogs that is crazy and shows your true horrible self.Intimidation through gang and youth violence is signature Raila retrogressive politics and it has not found any traction in kenya.Kibra people need to say enough of that kind of politics by utlizing their secret ballot

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Re: Ruto tries to blackmail Uhuru,this guy is surely desperate
« Reply #24 on: October 15, 2019, 10:05:53 PM »
Another dead reported in kilifi btw Aisha Jumwa and ODM

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Re: Ruto tries to blackmail Uhuru,this guy is surely desperate
« Reply #25 on: October 15, 2019, 10:15:16 PM »
Mboss si you dumped Ruto so fast. Swifter than MCAs have done with Punguza Mzigo.

How is that Mariga experiment working out? This is a real test for Ruto 2022. If he wins in Kibra his stock for 2022 will be sky high but if he lose it will all be downhill moving forward. I noticed all luhya politicians have abandoned Mariga, he is on his own well surrounded by empty head kikuyu politicians like that failed musician Jaguar and washed out comedian Kiarie....why would Ruto wish this on Nairobi people. You rig a musician in starehe, a comedian in Dagoretti, a criminal as governor and now a non registered voter in Kibra...what did Nairobi people do to Ruto? Nairobi deserve better representation.
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Re: Ruto tries to blackmail Uhuru,this guy is surely desperate
« Reply #26 on: October 15, 2019, 10:22:54 PM »
Well that is one way to look at it.There other way is that Uhuru after Raila boycott of elections knew he was to make life hell on him so why not placate the fool.I still think 2022 is Ruto-Kiunjuri to lose.Uhuru is doing what Moi and Kibaki did to Raila..contain the destructive fool and eventually leave him high & dry.Of course BBI won't happen...just throw the can down like all previous commissions and reports

Humbug. Moi did not need to contain Babu. He needed numbers to give himself immunity from prosecution - which "New Kanu" pushed and flopped. It was sunset days - noone would bother to attack outgoing elder - just as noone criticise the dead. Similarly noone can attack vague Uhuru presently. Only the dead and the retiring can be perfect with impunity.
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Re: Ruto tries to blackmail Uhuru,this guy is surely desperate
« Reply #27 on: October 15, 2019, 10:27:48 PM »
Well that is one way to look at it.There other way is that Uhuru after Raila boycott of elections knew he was to make life hell on him so why not placate the fool.I still think 2022 is Ruto-Kiunjuri to lose.Uhuru is doing what Moi and Kibaki did to Raila..contain the destructive fool and eventually leave him high & dry.Of course BBI won't happen...just throw the can down like all previous commissions and reports

Humbug. Moi did not need to contain Babu. He needed numbers to give himself immunity from prosecution - which "New Kanu" pushed and flopped. It was sunset days - noone would bother to attack outgoing elder - just as noone criticise the dead. Similarly noone can attack vague Uhuru presently. Only the dead and the retiring can be perfect with impunity.
Uhuru is retiring.Youre hitching your boat on the wrong ship again.Escorting him home..by time you turn in Ichaweri Gatundu Ruto will be firmly in State house.Uhuru will have nailed his legacy as your cheer him all the way.MaDVD at least has some self esteem.Ammending term limits sio mchezo..... assuming Uhuru reluctant as he has been in enjoy this

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Re: Ruto tries to blackmail Uhuru,this guy is surely desperate
« Reply #28 on: October 15, 2019, 10:41:06 PM »
only in odm zones are elections that violent..it something Raila started in 90s.Jaramogi eschewed violence and Raila thought his father was a coward hence 82 coup and his attempts to bulldoze his way to leadership.Elsewhere elections are peaceful.So far ODM have killed two people in kibra.Before Raila even a white man like Philip Leakey won Langata/kibra.The moment Raila landed out of jail he started feeding luo gangs on bhangs and deaths have occurred in every kibra elections...just like it does in Nyanza...leading to rise of thugs as MPs meanwhile in say Kalenjin the average senator or governor is not even 35yrs.Most MPs and MCAs are 20-30yrs old because there is true democracy.You want Mariga to toughen for Raila slum dogs that is crazy and shows your true horrible self.Intimidation through gang and youth violence is signature Raila retrogressive politics and it has not found any traction in kenya.Kibra people need to say enough of that kind of politics by utlizing their secret ballot

More humbug. Jomo and his Kanu thugs started violence on poor Luos - KPU - as early as 1966 when Jaramogi decamped from Kanu. There was a mass of by-elections. No single violence was reported entire Nyanza - despite Mboya and Kanu provocation and abuse of GoK apparatus - like VoK and police to block KPU rallies. Jomo invented political violence just as he invented elite corruption. Moi fuatad Nyayo by doubling down on violence, detentions, torture, name it - and formalizing sleaze as "harambee". Moi would butcher Kikuyus in Molo and Timboroa every election - 1992 and 1997. Ruto - with PEV under his belt and the manifesto of quivers - has perfected violence and sleaze as political tools. The Luo got nothing on the Kalenjin and the Kikuyu when it comes to violence and graft.

The youngest MP is from Meru. ODM is the most progressive in terms of women and youth. Complete with women and youth leagues. And senior women leaders in the NEC.
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Re: Ruto tries to blackmail Uhuru,this guy is surely desperate
« Reply #29 on: October 15, 2019, 10:44:08 PM »
Ruto needs kibra like the desert needs the rain. If it was not so he would not be doling out money in Karen like he is. I have seen the tapes. Really sad
How is that Mariga experiment working out? This is a real test for Ruto 2022. If he wins in Kibra his stock for 2022 will be sky high but if he lose it will all be downhill moving forward. I noticed all luhya politicians have abandoned Mariga, he is on his own well surrounded by empty head kikuyu politicians like that failed musician Jaguar and washed out comedian Kiarie....why would Ruto wish this on Nairobi people. You rig a musician in starehe, a comedian in Dagoretti, a criminal as governor and now a non registered voter in Kibra...what did Nairobi people do to Ruto? Nairobi deserve better representation.
Ruto doesn't need to win Kibra.The rest Nairobi will decide.

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Re: Ruto tries to blackmail Uhuru,this guy is surely desperate
« Reply #30 on: October 15, 2019, 10:45:26 PM »
Ruto needs another huge tribe to combine with Kalenjin to be competitive.  Kibaki, Ouru and Raila has done that to run competitive elections. According to his earlier plans, by now he should have rallied the Kikuyu solidly behind him and on his way to get the Kamba, or the Luhyia and then split the rest. He is going the opposite directions from winning.  He has definitely lost his grip on GEMA, no hold on Kamba, Luhyia or Kisii.  Mariga was a test on his Luhyia strength but as someone observed, no Luyhia leaders are not trooping to Ruto.

How is that Mariga experiment working out? This is a real test for Ruto 2022. If he wins in Kibra his stock for 2022 will be sky high but if he lose it will all be downhill moving forward. I noticed all luhya politicians have abandoned Mariga, he is on his own well surrounded by empty head kikuyu politicians like that failed musician Jaguar and washed out comedian Kiarie....why would Ruto wish this on Nairobi people. You rig a musician in starehe, a comedian in Dagoretti, a criminal as governor and now a non registered voter in Kibra...what did Nairobi people do to Ruto? Nairobi deserve better representation.
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Re: Ruto tries to blackmail Uhuru,this guy is surely desperate
« Reply #31 on: October 15, 2019, 10:46:51 PM »
Mariga is so dumb. They will milk him dry. He is already running low on cash na bado 3 more weeks to go.
How is that Mariga experiment working out? This is a real test for Ruto 2022. If he wins in Kibra his stock for 2022 will be sky high but if he lose it will all be downhill moving forward. I noticed all luhya politicians have abandoned Mariga, he is on his own well surrounded by empty head kikuyu politicians like that failed musician Jaguar and washed out comedian Kiarie....why would Ruto wish this on Nairobi people. You rig a musician in starehe, a comedian in Dagoretti, a criminal as governor and now a non registered voter in Kibra...what did Nairobi people do to Ruto? Nairobi deserve better representation.

I would not rule out instagram-socialite Mariga trailing Owalo when the receipts are turned in.

His campaign is already whining about a scuffle.  He is not made for this shit.


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Re: Ruto tries to blackmail Uhuru,this guy is surely desperate
« Reply #32 on: October 15, 2019, 10:56:06 PM »
Pundit has done a 180 on Kibra - as he did with Punguza - after smelling defeat.

Ruto needs kibra like the desert needs the rain. If it was not so he would not be doling out money in Karen like he is. I have seen the tapes. Really sad
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« Reply #33 on: October 15, 2019, 11:14:04 PM »
Yes Ruto has a penchant for test runs. He earlier tried to hawk Eugene Wamalwa in Nairobi but was scared by Sonko. Mariga and Kibra was a poor call because it obscures the by-election into a 2022 curtain-raiser. It will not be accurate or fair to view a Mariga loss as a lack of traction in Luhya. More a test of hubris and the power of money. In any case Luhya just like Kamba vote 90% Babu then split the downstream ballot. Hence Sakaja and Sonko. They are not an easy measure like say Luo or Kikuyu.

Yes Ruto banked a solid 54% brimming with Kalenjin and Kikuyu as at March 8th, 2018. Babu raided the bank. Now he is staring at a disaster - fighting for Kikuyu with Uhuru. Kamba with a Kamba son. Kisii with a Kisii superstar... now it's YK 92 all over again. He won Wajir by-election by brazenly bribing out the competition. Jubilee guy - an ODM defector - was virtually unopposed - after the fresh ODM nominee withdrew his candidature. This to Pundit is a "win" and a testament of Ruto genius.

Ruto needs another huge tribe to combine with Kalenjin to be competitive.  Kibaki, Ouru and Raila has done that to run competitive elections. According to his earlier plans, by now he should have rallied the Kikuyu solidly behind him and on his way to get the Kamba, or the Luhyia and then split the rest. He is going the opposite directions from winning.  He has definitely lost his grip on GEMA, no hold on Kamba, Luhyia or Kisii.  Mariga was a test on his Luhyia strength but as someone observed, no Luyhia leaders are not trooping to Ruto.
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Re: Ruto tries to blackmail Uhuru,this guy is surely desperate
« Reply #34 on: October 16, 2019, 06:50:34 AM »
Aisha Jumwa should be charged with murder or manslaughter. Aisha jumwa motor mouth and reckless behavior will be her undoing.

Another dead reported in kilifi btw Aisha Jumwa and ODM

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« Reply #35 on: October 16, 2019, 06:02:36 PM »