Author Topic: UhuRuto plays Raila 10-nill  (Read 3444 times)

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UhuRuto plays Raila 10-nill
« on: November 27, 2019, 06:51:10 AM »
The handshake turns out is nothing more than keeping our streets free from sore losers who haven't accepted democracy. What next for odm?

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Re: UhuRuto plays Raila 10-nill
« Reply #1 on: November 27, 2019, 08:38:39 AM »
Summarise the thing for us.

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Re: UhuRuto plays Raila 10-nill
« Reply #2 on: November 27, 2019, 08:43:19 AM »
If what going round in Facebook is true then Raila is kaput.His only hope was for a ceremonial president and parliamentary system.The status quo favours Ruto.Ruto will appoint Kiunjuri as DPORK and Duale can keep the prime Minister unless either maDVD or Kalonzo grab it soon.

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Re: UhuRuto plays Raila 10-nill
« Reply #3 on: November 27, 2019, 09:46:11 AM »
Is this true?? :( :( It's useless for Raila to face off with a Duale in parliament - cause that's not accountability. So this is a flop. It Uganda- or TZ like nonsense. It formalizes Matiang'i super CS  :(
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Re: UhuRuto plays Raila 10-nill
« Reply #4 on: November 27, 2019, 09:50:04 AM »
Seems there are a few carrots - on whistle-blowers, civil servants doing business and capping MP and MCA allowances. NHC. And of course devolution. Too little I think. Almighty PORK remains unaccoutable. We are just back to pre-2010 - actually worse cause even DPORK doesn't face any grilling. Big flop!
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Re: UhuRuto plays Raila 10-nill
« Reply #5 on: November 27, 2019, 10:01:43 AM »
Pundit you sound so relieved  :D What is the point of huge conference at Bomas?? ODM should boycott.

Anyway it'a win for devolution and maybe integrity or anti-corruption. Not sure I follow the mumbo jumbo on EACC...  is it going to be scrapped? That would be bad - cause DPP and DCI are PORK bitches as we have seen recently. Auditor General is not an investigative agency. Scrapping EACC would in fact negate any whistleblowing.

Kenya's biggest problem remains Executive impunity since greedy corrupt Jomo killed parliamentary in 1964 and 69.
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Re: UhuRuto plays Raila 10-nill
« Reply #6 on: November 27, 2019, 11:00:05 AM »
Matiangi is not super cs. Duale is more the PM - it's what Raila really used to do in NARA - 'supervise and cordinate gov activities' - which mainly is answering questions. I think
constitution should be left as it is. It appears we are not really sure what we want.

But yes outlawing civil servants from any kind of business is good start.

Is this true?? :( :( It's useless for Raila to face off with a Duale in parliament - cause that's not accountability. So this is a flop. It Uganda- or TZ like nonsense. It formalizes Matiang'i super CS  :(

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Re: UhuRuto plays Raila 10-nill
« Reply #7 on: November 27, 2019, 11:01:24 AM »
I'd rather we don't touch the constitutions and passes all these cosmetic changes as laws.

What will Raila tell people? I warned you to be very wary of Uhuru Kenyatta but you didn't listen.

You cannot arrive with a trojan horse in full display and except it to enter the tent.

Pundit you sound so relieved  :D What is the point of huge conference at Bomas?? ODM should boycott.

Anyway it'a win for devolution and maybe integrity or anti-corruption. Not sure I follow the mumbo jumbo on EACC...  is it going to be scrapped? That would be bad - cause DPP and DCI are PORK bitches as we have seen recently. Auditor General is not an investigative agency. Scrapping EACC would in fact negate any whistleblowing.

Kenya's biggest problem remains Executive impunity since greedy corrupt Jomo killed parliamentary in 1964 and 69.

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Re: UhuRuto plays Raila 10-nill
« Reply #8 on: November 27, 2019, 03:07:10 PM »
Yeah. These cosmetic changes don't need referendum or even parliament 2/3. AG can make a bill for Duale to pass. Anyway I think it's nonsense for Opposition Leader to grill powerless PM. Raila v Duale is waste of time.

Raila has been conned... he needs to retire and let Joho and Oparanya square with Ruto and Kiunjuri. Now there is not even a ceremonial president to hide the betrayal.

I'd rather we don't touch the constitutions and passes all these cosmetic changes as laws.

What will Raila tell people? I warned you to be very wary of Uhuru Kenyatta but you didn't listen.

You cannot arrive with a trojan horse in full display and except it to enter the tent.
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Re: UhuRuto plays Raila 10-nill
« Reply #9 on: November 27, 2019, 04:15:13 PM »
That is what Uhuru wanted. No referendum. He wants to nail his legacy and go back to drinking 24-7 at gov expenses. I don't think he has any fight left in him for a political tussle. He will placate Raila as much as possible till 2022 when he will leave the scene.
Yeah. These cosmetic changes don't need referendum or even parliament 2/3. AG can make a bill for Duale to pass. Anyway I think it's nonsense for Opposition Leader to grill powerless PM. Raila v Duale is waste of time.

Raila has been conned... he needs to retire and let Joho and Oparanya square with Ruto and Kiunjuri. Now there is not even a ceremonial president to hide the betrayal.

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Re: UhuRuto plays Raila 10-nill
« Reply #10 on: November 27, 2019, 07:22:21 PM »
Seems there are a few carrots - on whistle-blowers, civil servants doing business and capping MP and MCA allowances. NHC. And of course devolution. Too little I think. Almighty PORK remains unaccoutable. We are just back to pre-2010 - actually worse cause even DPORK doesn't face any grilling. Big flop!

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