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Re: Raila vs Ruto
« Reply #20 on: August 20, 2018, 12:24:57 PM »
You said that before... that the madharao is because they're very tight buddies. Until Ruto's boy Aldai MP Cornelius Serem named Muhoho in the sugar saga, then Kikuyu elders asked Ruto to retire. Now you actually believe the handshake and war on corruption are meant to help Ruto. :)

You live in alternate universe. Soon you'll smell the coffee. UhuRuto are playing your man Raila.
Of course Uhuru really supports Uhuru. He is propping Raila to scuttle Ruto's non-GEMA dominance. Once non-GEMA  is split fairly 50-50 Uhuru becomes the real kingmaker. I don't know why you think GEMA cannot support Raila? That's a false belief you have same as saying Ruto is trustworthy. Luos are a better coalition partner because a fallout is just political compared to genocidal Kalenjin.
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Re: Raila vs Ruto
« Reply #21 on: August 20, 2018, 01:02:14 PM »
Of course. Corruption will impede Uhuru agenda like NYS has demonstrated and handshake allows Uhuru to govern without Raila destabilizing forces. And he does all that with 4 prados. Yeah of course there is the usual power jostling and some civil servants who have their own ambitions - but at end of day - Uhuru knows Ruto is the man. And Raila CANNOT and WILL NOT be trusted by GEMA.
You said that before... that the madharao is because they're very tight buddies. Until Ruto's boy Aldai MP Cornelius Serem named Muhoho in the sugar saga, then Kikuyu elders asked Ruto to retire. Now you actually believe the handshake and war on corruption are meant to help Ruto. :)

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Re: Raila vs Ruto
« Reply #22 on: August 20, 2018, 03:15:23 PM »
Robina does not do obtuse or acute turns.  She does 180 degrees.
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Re: Raila vs Ruto
« Reply #23 on: August 20, 2018, 04:37:21 PM »
Robina does not do obtuse or acute turns.  She does 180 degrees.

I am confused when it was her Damascus moment.... she flips from a virulent Rutoist to a "realist" in a flip second! Immediately post-election she was solidly aligned to the UhuRuto column and the kool aid they dispensed. She has given a perfect back-flip!

Let us be clear, Ruto is like a rabbit in the headlights; The movie is unfolding in slow-motion right in-front of our eyes and on the tv screens.

If there was ever any indication that UhuRuto are playing Raila, you would not see some of the pronouncements that UK is making.

We keep presenting Ruto as the smart Alec who outsmarts everyone, hiyo ukora yake na uchanja ya sungura imefikia ukingoni. I have never seen any smarts there, only a conman/thief in a suit. No better than Kidero. They are of the same ilk. They give education and hard work a really bad name. When before the newspapers would not even mention him in scandals, today they do with abandon. How do you think they would be able to do that if things haven't changed? Why have the Duale's gone mute and seem as if they are the leader of opposition in parliament rather than presenting and supporting government business?

If Uhuru wont finish what he has started, the mwananchi will. Uhuru wont barrel the 3.4m Kikuyus into Ruto's basket; they will make their own decision based on the lies that they have been fed. It is time to give the mwanachi some credit, the tribal king business is fast receding into the past. Kikuyu folk are equally fed up of/with Kamwana and where he has brought Kenya to...forget the pet projects like SGR which have impoverished them and Kenyans at large.

Already we have seen them eat humble on the northern collector tunnel which is already causing untold environmental havoc in Muranga and its horizons with the underground diversion of the rivers/water from the Aberdares. This includes Ndakaini not filling up in spite of the recent very heavy rains.

Whatever the handshake's (building bridges) underhand dealings (if any), Kenya is the better off with it! That is why i would really doubt newspaper stories that anyone would be openly sabotaging it. It will run its course without further handholding by either Uhuru or Raila. It is no longer their baby....

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Re: Raila vs Ruto
« Reply #24 on: August 20, 2018, 11:45:08 PM »
That's what I'm cheering Pragmatic, the handshake has very positive effects for Kenya, intended or otherwise. Ruto happens to be on the wrong side of Kenya at this time, nothing personal against him.
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Re: Raila vs Ruto
« Reply #25 on: August 21, 2018, 03:30:48 PM »
That's what I'm cheering Pragmatic, the handshake has very positive effects for Kenya, intended or otherwise. Ruto happens to be on the wrong side of Kenya at this time, nothing personal against him.

I saw the guy flagging off a road in rain-drenched Kapchorwa with Museveni.  He must be missing this kind of gig as side-kick with kamwana.  Kamwana hataki kutangatanga  :D .


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Re: Raila vs Ruto
« Reply #26 on: August 21, 2018, 03:34:49 PM »
Kutangatanga is real leadership. M7 is real leader like Ruto. He just has overstayed but what he has done in Uganda is very commendable. You cannot afford hands-off leadership in Africa. The baby is small and need a lot of cuddling...otherwise nothing get done. Only things get done when top leaders are doing supervision.
I saw the guy flagging off a road in rain-drenched Kapchorwa with Museveni.  He must be missing this kind of gig as side-kick with kamwana.  Kamwana hataki kutangatanga  :D .