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Ruto has been at apex of national elections and referenda for 30yrs..mostly as the engine..he knows what it takes and has meticolously prepared for this.
This is the first time Ruto is running for president.  He will find out very soon that being the head of a ticket is not as easy as being a kingmaker but I know that will fall on blind eyes and deaf ears.

We have enough time to settle this score and there is no need playing it out here everyday for the next 41/2 years remaining.

which money man in kenya is prepared to put billions and outspend Ruto.The last one Wanjigi is still crying in the toilet.Ruto has shown he is not afraid to spend...something Raila or Giddy or shadow politician are not ready to do..and by time they wake up Ruto would have had every key politician on retainer.

2002 he lost, with state machinery on his side.
2005, he lost.
2007, he rode Raila's coat tails.
2013, he lost, with state machinery on his side, but rode kamwana's and establishment IEBC connections to power.
2017, it's public knowledge he only won with state machinery when a major candidate withdrew.
2022 is already looking stillborn and it's 4 years away.
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He lost or rigged or got rigged or help the winner but one thing since y2k in 92..Ruto has been the engine or the brains or chief campaigner or mobilizer..and has seen it all.For instance in 2002 after beating Saitoti&Biwot, Raila rebellion snatched their victory.Ruto learnt lessons thar he is using to kill the handshake now.So it may be his maiden run but he has more experience than Raila
Ruto has been at apex of national elections and referenda for 30yrs..mostly as the engine..he knows what it takes and has meticolously prepared for this.
This is the first time Ruto is running for president.  He will find out very soon that being the head of a ticket is not as easy as being a kingmaker but I know that will fall on blind eyes and deaf ears.

We have enough time to settle this score and there is no need playing it out here everyday for the next 41/2 years remaining.

which money man in kenya is prepared to put billions and outspend Ruto.The last one Wanjigi is still crying in the toilet.Ruto has shown he is not afraid to spend...something Raila or Giddy or shadow politician are not ready to do..and by time they wake up Ruto would have had every key politician on retainer.

2002 he lost, with state machinery on his side.
2005, he lost.
2007, he rode Raila's coat tails.
2013, he lost, with state machinery on his side, but rode kamwana's and establishment IEBC connections to power.
2017, it's public knowledge he only won with state machinery when a major candidate withdrew.
2022 is already looking stillborn and it's 4 years away.

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He lost or rigged or got rigged or help the winner but one thing since y2k in 92..Ruto has been the engine or the brains or chief campaigner or mobilizer..and has seen it all.For instance in 2002 after beating Saitoti&Biwot, Raila rebellion snatched their victory.Ruto learnt lessons thar he is using to kill the handshake now.So it may be his maiden run but he has more experience than Raila
Ruto has been at apex of national elections and referenda for 30yrs..mostly as the engine..he knows what it takes and has meticolously prepared for this.
This is the first time Ruto is running for president.  He will find out very soon that being the head of a ticket is not as easy as being a kingmaker but I know that will fall on blind eyes and deaf ears.

We have enough time to settle this score and there is no need playing it out here everyday for the next 41/2 years remaining.


2002 he lost, with state machinery on his side.
2005, he lost.
2007, he rode Raila's coat tails.
2013, he lost, with state machinery on his side, but rode kamwana's and establishment IEBC connections to power.
2017, it's public knowledge he only won with state machinery when a major candidate withdrew.
2022 is already looking stillborn and it's 4 years away.

He is a guy who either needs official state machinery, or a larger than life figure in his camp to succeed.  That is why the so-called dynasty is giving him sleepless nights. 

Ruto without state power, by himself, is not in Raila's league.  This is not out of disrespect.  Just facts.
"I freed a thousand slaves.  I could have freed a thousand more if only they knew they were slaves."

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He lost or rigged or got rigged or help the winner but one thing since y2k in 92..Ruto has been the engine or the brains or chief campaigner or mobilizer..and has seen it all.For instance in 2002 after beating Saitoti&Biwot, Raila rebellion snatched their victory.Ruto learnt lessons thar he is using to kill the handshake now.So it may be his maiden run but he has more experience than Raila
Ruto has been at apex of national elections and referenda for 30yrs..mostly as the engine..he knows what it takes and has meticolously prepared for this.
This is the first time Ruto is running for president.  He will find out very soon that being the head of a ticket is not as easy as being a kingmaker but I know that will fall on blind eyes and deaf ears.

We have enough time to settle this score and there is no need playing it out here everyday for the next 41/2 years remaining.


2002 he lost, with state machinery on his side.
2005, he lost.
2007, he rode Raila's coat tails.
2013, he lost, with state machinery on his side, but rode kamwana's and establishment IEBC connections to power.
2017, it's public knowledge he only won with state machinery when a major candidate withdrew.
2022 is already looking stillborn and it's 4 years away.

He is a guy who either needs official state machinery, or a larger than life figure in his camp to succeed.  That is why the so-called dynasty is giving him sleepless nights. 

Ruto without state power, by himself, is not in Raila's league.  This is not out of disrespect.  Just facts.
Its hard to win against state power..ask Raila..that is why Ruto bidded his time and now he goes to 2022 with state machinery.That dynasty is not in gov and if they are they will be kicked out.Ruto is gov..i know he rans most of it and has his intelligence all over

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That's generally true.  It is indeed very difficult to beat an incumbent and that is why Ruto is uneasy with the handshake. However, even without the handshake, running as a VP  may give one an advantage but NOT the level of overwhelming advantage an African president has when running for re-elections. Some people may even say that African Vice presidents have not done very well in this regard. This is the reason why Ruto should not count his chicken (no pun intended) until they are literally hatched. The level of arrogance he is exhibiting may excite his base but it could also be seen as peeking to soon and may turn some folks off-Just saying.

He lost or rigged or got rigged or help the winner but one thing since y2k in 92..Ruto has been the engine or the brains or chief campaigner or mobilizer..and has seen it all.For instance in 2002 after beating Saitoti&Biwot, Raila rebellion snatched their victory.Ruto learnt lessons thar he is using to kill the handshake now.So it may be his maiden run but he has more experience than Raila
Ruto has been at apex of national elections and referenda for 30yrs..mostly as the engine..he knows what it takes and has meticolously prepared for this.
This is the first time Ruto is running for president.  He will find out very soon that being the head of a ticket is not as easy as being a kingmaker but I know that will fall on blind eyes and deaf ears.

We have enough time to settle this score and there is no need playing it out here everyday for the next 41/2 years remaining.


2002 he lost, with state machinery on his side.
2005, he lost.
2007, he rode Raila's coat tails.
2013, he lost, with state machinery on his side, but rode kamwana's and establishment IEBC connections to power.
2017, it's public knowledge he only won with state machinery when a major candidate withdrew.
2022 is already looking stillborn and it's 4 years away.

He is a guy who either needs official state machinery, or a larger than life figure in his camp to succeed.  That is why the so-called dynasty is giving him sleepless nights. 

Ruto without state power, by himself, is not in Raila's league.  This is not out of disrespect.  Just facts.
Its hard to win against state power..ask Raila..that is why Ruto bidded his time and now he goes to 2022 with state machinery.That dynasty is not in gov and if they are they will be kicked out.Ruto is gov..i know he rans most of it and has his intelligence all over
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