Rotational presidency is a terrible idea

[Kichwa Mbaya]

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I read Nyongo's piece in the standard for rotational presidency and I thought it was the worst idea I have heard in a long time.  I think Okiya's safety in numbers-weighted votes- is a much better idea

[Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants]

The mechanics of a rotational presidency are somewhat complicated from my perch.  The question of what criteria one uses is the one that keeps cropping up.

If Okiya refers to an electoral college kind of thing, that makes sense in a divided country like Kenya.  Electoral college forces one to try and appeal accross a wider cross section of the country.

That said, all these changes are meaningless with an intact IEBC.  I think they should also push for devolved electoral boards.

[RV Pundit]

The panya routes will never work. The current systems is okay except for a weak devolution. We have 50% threshold. You have to win i think 25% in most counties.What we need is stronger devolution to tame the winner take all.Instead of messing up democracy...each of the region or ethnic communities...we should have heavy devolution like in the US..where somebody living in montana desert..doesn't really care about federal gov.

[Robina]

All these are just THIEVES competing for loot. So what we need is to seal loopholes for theft and corruption. Once that is done smart folks will focus on business and politics will be left to orators like in US where real money and celebs are in business, sports and recreation not government. National debate should be about development and wealth creation not how thieves should share public loot.

[vooke]

Let's do rotational and put jarluo at number 45 from now and make it a one year term

[kadame]

All these are just THIEVES competing for loot. So what we need is to seal loopholes for theft and corruption. Once that is done smart folks will focus on business and politics will be left to orators like in US where real money and celebs are in business, sports and recreation not government. National debate should be about development and wealth creation not how thieves should share public loot.

If loot is going to be stolen either way, I would rather it was stolen closer home. I might get a crumb that falls from the table. Why should we protect the right of th same thieves who've been stealing since independence to keep on doing it? Even in thievery, some fairness.  Devolution, baby!

[RV Pundit]

Precisely. The loot should be kept at source. There is chance then of stopping the thief. We need more devolution and eventually full federation. That ensure everyone has a fair chance of looting.

If loot is going to be stolen either way, I would rather it was stolen closer home. I might get a crumb that falls from the table. Why should we protect the right of th same thieves who've been stealing since independence to keep on doing it? Even in thievery, some fairness.  Devolution, baby!

[Omollo]

All these are just THIEVES competing for loot. So what we need is to seal loopholes for theft and corruption. Once that is done smart folks will focus on business and politics will be left to orators like in US where real money and celebs are in business, sports and recreation not government. National debate should be about development and wealth creation not how thieves should share public loot.

US money being in the private sector is only half true. It is largely public money which is first dumped to the private sector before being shared out. Huge Defense contracts is a case in point. Some of that money ends up generating new money but inevitably goes back to dependence on the source: The American state. Whether as a customer or salesman.

[George Lamming]

Rotational what? Ngai! Is this backward or what. Wont happen in Jamhuri....not in thousand lifetimes. We need to think better.

[Brynn]

George wacha ulafi. Other people also need to get their turn to eat. Since Tyranny thing won't facilitate that that's actually a viable option. Price Waterhouse can do a lottery on the order...

Don't worry I can take a few jabs without dropping dead hehehe. By the way I should be jabbing you more often as well, excellent rebutal lol. Let me not push my limits though, I'm craving kahawa!

[George Lamming]

Brynn: You known I cannot argue much with you, but you are spoiling my chances. Listen dear, that option is a defeatist option....it is an option that accepts the problem. I would rather we work out an option that addresses the real issue of tribal differences. I think we can. I can see a situation where we will pick a president based on merit, regardless of gender/tribe/age.

I have to admit though, I get embarrassed

George wacha ulafi. Other people also need to get their turn to eat. Since Tyranny thing won't facilitate that that's actually a viable option. Price Waterhouse can do a lottery on the order...

[George Lamming]

Btw Brynn: I am ready to trade my tribe with you that have this option, if that makes a difference. This is how cheap tribe is to most of us.

[Brynn]

Brynn: You known I cannot argue much with you, but you are spoiling my chances. Listen dear, that option is a defeatist option....it is an option that accepts the problem. I would rather we work out an option that addresses the real issue of tribal differences. I think we can. I can see a situation where we will pick a president based on merit, regardless of gender/tribe/age.

I have to admit though, I get embarrassed

George wacha ulafi. Other people also need to get their turn to eat. Since Tyranny thing won't facilitate that that's actually a viable option. Price Waterhouse can do a lottery on the order...

Don't worry I can take a few jabs without dropping dead hehehe. By the way I should be jabbing you more often as well, excellent rebutal lol. Let me not push my limits though, I'm craving starbucks.

[George Lamming]

Brynn: Kenya is bigger than our tribal differences. Btw you are known to Jabb me all the time...it doesn't hurt anymore.

[Brynn]

Brynn: Kenya is bigger than our tribal differences. Btw you are known to Jabb me all the time...it doesn't hurt anymore.

What??? When did I jab you? I treat you like an egg actually....

[Brynn]

By the way as a barometer for future reference, if I'm talking to u here it means I like you. In case u didn't notice I talk a lot with u :-).

[George Lamming]

Brynn: OK, you get the last word...you know I have a soft spot for you. You can slap me any time. But on this subject, that idea would be so backword....hope you can trust my judgement on this one. We need to make balanced and thought out decisions for the good of the country. 

[Brynn]

Brynn: OK, you get the last word...you know I have a soft spot for you. You can slap me any time. But on this subject, that idea would be so backword....hope you can trust my judgement on this one. We need to make balanced and thought out decisions for the good of the country. 

Sounds good to me. You are a better politician than I am. As for the other jabbing stuff you owe me an explanation sometime in the future. I'm checking out, stay fabulous.