Look like Ruto is keen to cast himself as hustler president

[RV Pundit]

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[Kichwa]

He seems to be back to the drawing boards to cast himself as the outsider.  It is really strange for an ultimate insider to cast himself as an outsider. I do not know what happened but something happened with the handshake which makes him feel he needs to recast himself and fight from the outside to inside. It may work within the Kalenjin community where the Moi's are seen as the insiders but outside the Kalenjin community Ruto is tied to hip with Ouruto's failures-especially the tribalism, corruption and incompetence. After years of acting like twin brothers, it would be very difficult for him to distance himself from ouru. He however has four years to pull this off.

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[hk]

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I like Ruto stand on referendum against agitation to add more executive positions or change to a parliamentary system. If I were uhuru or Gema, i'd be pushing for federalism. That way a gema need not hold any meaningful position in national government and their so called interest would still be secured.

[RV Pundit]

And they better do it before 2019 census - because we may be headed Nigeria way - where thanks to allocation to counties - it become a race to inflate population. Mandera and Turkana pulled incredible pop last census and I can better many counties up north are looking at them as a model.

So yeah we can call it devolution but allowing counties to keep or levy party of the taxes is the way to go! I am not sure how KRA can deal with such complexities though - but it can be done sector by sector - like devolved powers - say all taxes related to 17 county functions should be kept at source.

I like Ruto stand on referendum against agitation to add more executive positions or change to a parliamentary system. If I were uhuru or Gema, i'd be pushing for federalism. That way a gema need not hold any meaningful position in national government and their so called interest would still be secured.

[hk]

And they better do it before 2019 census - because we may be headed Nigeria way - where thanks to allocation to counties - it become a race to inflate population. Mandera and Turkana pulled incredible pop last census and I can better many counties up north are looking at them as a model.

So yeah we can call it devolution but allowing counties to keep or levy party of the taxes is the way to go! I am not sure how KRA can deal with such complexities though - but it can be done sector by sector - like devolved powers - say all taxes related to 17 county functions should be kept at source.

So long as the revenue sharing formula is premised on population size counties will inflate. However if its premised on taxes derived from counties as a key factor, population wont matter. Since most government revenue comes from paye its very easy to know which county the payer is paying from. Also companies like safaricom and EABL surely can breakdown revenue per county according to sales. Banks and insurance companies that are domiciled in Nairobi actually already know how much a branch makes. So it can be very easy. KRA has regional branches e.g nyeri for mt. kenya region which also can be used to determine taxes per county since already kra has that data.

[RV Pundit]

It won't be easy - I suspect Nairobi Metro (Nairobi,Kiambu,Machakos,Kajiado) will take the bulk of the taxes - followed by the 4 cities of mombasa, kisumu, nakuru and eldoret - and the rest will struggle. Anyway I think if we do it county wise - like narok has maasai mara - each county can get something to tax -muranga can tax Nairobi water? - and each county can build capacity. The last data I saw that attempted to breakdown taxes collected - had Nairobi earning about 30%...mombasa 10%...the other big cities about 3-5%...and rest of counties were doing 0-2%. So it's probably not worth complicating our taxation - for little gain - unless we want Nairobi to get all the money. And before you know Turkana will want to keep all the oil?

So long as the revenue sharing formula is premised on population size counties will inflate. However if its premised on taxes derived from counties as a key factor, population wont matter. Since most government revenue comes from paye its very easy to know which county the payer is paying from. Also companies like safaricom and EABL surely can breakdown revenue per county according to sales. Banks and insurance companies that are domiciled in Nairobi actually already know how much a branch makes. So it can be very easy. KRA has regional branches e.g nyeri for mt. kenya region which also can be used to determine taxes per county since already kra has that data.

[Nefertiti]

I am not sure I understand what the beef is between UhuRuto. I don't think Uhuru is stupid enough to be fooled by Raila to rock the boat for Ruto. Other than being an outright screwball I think he should focus on his BIG 4 which the Ruto crew have struggled to front. It's possible that Raila is the one being played by UhuRuto - being put on a pedestal as he is fattened for slaughter.

Otherwise I don't see any credible PORK contender to beat Ruto as Raila ages: Kalonzo, Madvd, Mutua, Gideon - who??

[RV Pundit]

Raila is just being taken to cleaners - he is only useful is Uhuru want to be PM in Ruto gov. I don't think he wants to do that. That is too much work for him. So I think he'll settle for an powerful influential stateman as Jubilee Supreme Party leader with Ruto as PORK and his favorite protege as VP. The problem is finding a good enough leader in GEMA who can step up the plate. Kiunjuri seem to have been deflated. Waiguru maybe?

I am not sure I understand what the beef is between UhuRuto. I don't think Uhuru is stupid enough to be fooled by Raila to rock the boat for Ruto. Other than being an outright screwball I think he should focus on his BIG 4 which the Ruto crew have struggled to front. It's possible that Raila is the one being played by UhuRuto - being put on a pedestal as he is fattened for slaughter.

Otherwise I don't see any credible PORK contender to beat Ruto as Raila ages: Kalonzo, Madvd, Mutua, Gideon - who??

[Nefertiti]

Waiguru would be a perfect DPORK of course. I doubt non-GEMA would accept that - a Kikuyu woman before their men get a chance - but most women would line up for Ruto as a reward.

What's with the PM maneno Ruto is vehemently opposing? Someone's seriously getting played and I think it's Raila.

Raila is just being taken to cleaners - he is only useful is Uhuru want to be PM in Ruto gov. I don't think he wants to do that. That is too much work for him. So I think he'll settle for an powerful influential stateman as Jubilee Supreme Party leader with Ruto as PORK and his favorite protege as VP. The problem is finding a good enough leader in GEMA who can step up the plate. Kiunjuri seem to have been deflated. Waiguru maybe?

[RV Pundit]

Kikuyu vote is too big to be ignored - so those complaining about Waiguru - will go jump - so it really upto Uhuru - who does he trust to take of his business now and in the future.

As for Raila...it appears Uhuru is buying as much time and giving Raila mirage of hope..he might have told him he'll get executive PM - if he can marshall the constitutional change?

Waiguru would be a perfect DPORK of course. I doubt non-GEMA would accept that - a Kikuyu woman before their men get a chance - but most women would line up for Ruto as a reward.

What's with the PM maneno Ruto is vehemently opposing? Someone's seriously getting played and I think it's Raila.

[Nefertiti]

Kalenjin and GEMA with their cohesive advantage have no reason to introduce PM to "include" smaller tribes. Pure presidency works so well for them. It's a ploy to give Raila false hope... as he approaches the cliff.

Kikuyu vote is too big to be ignored - so those complaining about Waiguru - will go jump - so it really upto Uhuru - who does he trust to take of his business now and in the future.

As for Raila...it appears Uhuru is buying as much time and giving Raila mirage of hope..he might have told him he'll get executive PM - if he can marshall the constitutional change?

[bryan275]

Sadly we all know him as a mega thieving bastard.

[Kadudu]

In kenya that is the best qualification to be elected to high office.
Btw, why are people always pointing fingers at Arap Mashamba although his boss Kamwana has looted in the 5 years much more than his deputy?

Sadly we all know him as a mega thieving bastard.

[bryan275]

In kenya that is the best qualification to be elected to high office.
Btw, why are people always pointing fingers at Arap Mashamba although his boss Kamwana has looted in the 5 years much more than his deputy?

Sadly we all know him as a mega thieving bastard.

Because the other one was BORN a thief... that he's stealing is hardly surprising....

[Higgins the genius]

I can see the evil society are up in arms to stop Willliam Ruto

[GeeMail]

Evil society? I thought he was doing a good job of it already, needing no further assistance?

[Kichwa]

Stop him? Who  made Ruto the heir-apparent of the Kenyan presidency.

I can see the evil society are up in arms to stop Willliam Ruto