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Poor Kimaiyo
« on: September 24, 2014, 12:29:33 PM »
Bwana Kimaiyo

This is how it is done:

1. For a lifestyle check to be effective, the target(s) cannot know about it;
2. A separate unit within or outside the force is given the task
3. Prior to that a standard - comprising of "norms" is established and this is used to detect deviations;

 
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http://www.nation.co.ke/news/-/1056/2463722/-/15hdr9c/-/index.html
... [the ICC case] will be tried in Europe, where due procedure and expertise prevail.; ... Second-guessing Ocampo and fantasizing ..has obviously become a national pastime.- NattyDread

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Re: Poor Kimaiyo
« Reply #1 on: September 24, 2014, 12:37:39 PM »
Meanwhile he should join us in worrying about Ndia copycat attacks on police.

http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/ktn/video/watch/2000083537/-news-round-up-a-man-shot-dead-after-attacking-a-police-officer-with-a-panga

As if that is not enough violence for one day, here in Nairobi a man was shot dead earlier today, after he invaded the central police station and attacked a police officer with a panga.

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Re: Poor Kimaiyo
« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2014, 12:39:43 PM »
What about a similar unit like military police in KDF.

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Re: Poor Kimaiyo
« Reply #3 on: September 24, 2014, 12:45:06 PM »
As long as EJK is being promoted, attacks on police will grow in magnitude, intensity and ferocity. In some countries where EJK sparked off retaliation against the police, you can hardly find a single young man or woman applying to join the police force. Look at Mexico with all the high unemployment yet there are thousands of vacant police jobs in every county.

Argentina, Chile and Guatemala only recently started seeing the Police Force become attractive again.
... [the ICC case] will be tried in Europe, where due procedure and expertise prevail.; ... Second-guessing Ocampo and fantasizing ..has obviously become a national pastime.- NattyDread

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Re: Poor Kimaiyo
« Reply #4 on: September 24, 2014, 12:45:43 PM »
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I expect you to make reports on officers who appear to be living far beyond their own means

http://www.nation.co.ke/news/-/1056/2463722/-/15hdr9c/-/index.html

Almost all those commanders he is ordering  are themselves living beyond their means from corruption money that comes to them from the very junior officers they are supposed to audit

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Re: Poor Kimaiyo
« Reply #5 on: September 24, 2014, 12:47:35 PM »
What about a similar unit like military police in KDF.
It's usually compromised. It must be cleaned up before. Plus the KDF MP is limited to petty crime such as drunkenness and internal discipline arising from minor violations.

It has no teeth to go after corruption which as you stated is ring-fenced within the military.
... [the ICC case] will be tried in Europe, where due procedure and expertise prevail.; ... Second-guessing Ocampo and fantasizing ..has obviously become a national pastime.- NattyDread

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Re: Poor Kimaiyo
« Reply #6 on: September 24, 2014, 01:00:10 PM »
What about a similar unit like military police in KDF.
It's usually compromised. It must be cleaned up before. Plus the KDF MP is limited to petty crime such as drunkenness and internal discipline arising from minor violations.

It has no teeth to go after corruption which as you stated is ring-fenced within the military.

another unit like KDF MP within kenya police would simply create another layer of corruption

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Re: Poor Kimaiyo
« Reply #7 on: September 24, 2014, 01:51:45 PM »
poor kimaiyo...he should have remained at kenya national focal point on small arms & light weapons. .. where all.he did was seminars then.once a year burn afew guns. He is too polite a guy for IG. and his faith won't allow him to be otherwise

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Re: Poor Kimaiyo
« Reply #8 on: September 24, 2014, 02:12:54 PM »
Bwana Kimaiyo

This is how it is done:

1. For a lifestyle check to be effective, the target(s) cannot know about it;
2. A separate unit within or outside the force is given the task
3. Prior to that a standard - comprising of "norms" is established and this is used to detect deviations;

 
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http://www.nation.co.ke/news/-/1056/2463722/-/15hdr9c/-/index.html

Kimaiyo is old school. I don't trust him to change anything.

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Re: Poor Kimaiyo
« Reply #9 on: September 25, 2014, 11:27:57 AM »
where is kimaiyo heading with this 'prosecute rogue police' chorus....

katitu and makueni cases in point
Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one ~ Thomas Paine

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Re: Poor Kimaiyo
« Reply #10 on: September 25, 2014, 01:01:14 PM »
heheh this is how you will bring resentment in the force. Ati check on their lifestyles. I'm sure the officers are laughing out loud at this IG. What was his lifestyle when he was first fired from the Force way back in 2008 by Obako? Was he not living well compared to other officers then?

wacha watu wakule bwana. kuna msosi kwa poaching, drugs, etc.

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Re: Poor Kimaiyo
« Reply #11 on: September 25, 2014, 04:37:26 PM »
Easiest thing to do is to pass a law that gives a 20 percent to whatever is recovered from a corruption deal.