Author Topic: The Executive has no authority to interogate Judges....  (Read 1776 times)

Offline Kadame7

  • Enigma
  • *
  • Posts: 541
  • Reputation: 14509
The Executive has no authority to interogate Judges....
« on: September 02, 2017, 07:16:53 PM »
...based on their decisions. Judges are completely immune as far as their judgments go. You can only go after them on things like integrity. If they take bribes etc. But there is no charge like "You made a bad decision THEREFORE..." Hiyo ndio inaitwa interference and a direct attack on judicial independence. Uhuru is drunk and hurt and Ruto is just there encouraging him or going along. I think Uhuru is a tyrant when he is angry so no one can talk to him until he sobers up and calms down, so they just agree to everything he says meanwhile. Hope he will be Ok by next week.

Offline Globalcitizen12

  • VIP
  • Enigma
  • *
  • Posts: 1869
  • Reputation: 2875
Re: The Executive has no authority to interogate Judges....
« Reply #1 on: September 02, 2017, 07:32:32 PM »
Uhuru has no power now he is a caretaker president. His power is limited to requesting mukimo from ngina

Offline vooke

  • Moderator
  • Enigma
  • *
  • Posts: 5985
  • Reputation: 8906
Re: The Executive has no authority to interogate Judges....
« Reply #2 on: September 02, 2017, 07:34:34 PM »
He should sustain the attacks. I think it emboldens others to actually piss him off without fear of consequences. I mean who knows he can't do zilch?

It also affirms the independence of Judiciary something they have never fully regained ever since 2013 at least according to some.

And finally, it gives NASWA enough ammo to go against him.
2 Timothy 2:4  No man that warreth entangleth himself with the affairs of this life; that he may please him who hath chosen him to be a soldier.

Offline Omollo

  • Moderator
  • Enigma
  • *
  • Posts: 7143
  • Reputation: 13780
  • http://www.omollosview.com
    • Omollosview
Re: The Executive has no authority to interogate Judges....
« Reply #3 on: September 02, 2017, 07:41:56 PM »
Kadame

These Uthamaki guys went after Raila for simply saying he does not agree with the SCOK decision but will accept it! He never insulted the court or the judges - even though he knew about the bribery.

Mungu halali! Within no time, Tunoi was caught in a bribery scandal. He was gone and his place taken by Lenaola. Then Mutunga resigned or retired. In reality he was threatened to leave.

Rawal thought she could stay on and started a fight which she lost despite the help of Ojwang and Ndung'u. That brought in Mwilu.

In their calculations they thought Maraga will play ball. They already had Njoki and Ojwang. They knew alcoholic Ibrahim would do it for a bottle of whisky.

In 2013 These ate:

1. Njoki Ndung'u
2. Ojwang
3. Tunoi
4. Ibrahim
5. Rawal

That left Smokin and Mutunga who decided to go with the majority to avoid problems

The new people joined Smokin to form a majority and they stood firm.
1. Maraga - His faith
2. Lenaola - His undying commitment to the law and integrity
3. Mwilu - Faith and Devotion to honesty
4. Smokin - same as above but gained courage from the above to stand with them

Uthamaki found this just strange. Never have they run into a group of people in Kenya who could not and would not take a bribe. They tried threats. Now these are amateurs ! I would have advised them them it simply does not work!

If you read archives of the CIA and how the dealt with communists and religious fanatics you will find out why. The two have one thing in common: They believe in the cause. The threats are expected, prepared for and strengthen their resolve!

The CIA tried to recruit communists in South America and found threats and bribes were guaranteed to fail.

If you threaten a born again christian with death, he just sees Satan who failed to corrupt him returning with threats! He has been trained to expect it and taught to resist. Tell a muslim fundamentalist that you will kill him and he sees the total forgiveness of all his sins and a direct entry into heaven. He believes it with every cell of his body. He looks forward to it. You won't get what you want from him.

So the threats worked against Jubilee! If they continue they will end up with judges who will search for excuses to rule against them. Maraga has given courage to many who were not quite sure where he stood. They will stand with him and go ahead of him.

There were judges who gave Moi a hard time. One ordered graves disturbed all over the country in search of a man the police killed. They eventually took the body to the family quietly.
... [the ICC case] will be tried in Europe, where due procedure and expertise prevail.; ... Second-guessing Ocampo and fantasizing ..has obviously become a national pastime.- NattyDread

Offline Omollo

  • Moderator
  • Enigma
  • *
  • Posts: 7143
  • Reputation: 13780
  • http://www.omollosview.com
    • Omollosview
Re: The Executive has no authority to interogate Judges....
« Reply #4 on: September 02, 2017, 07:45:27 PM »
strange while you were writing this I was thinking and writing the same. I agree, it will backfire on him badly. He has 60 days and the judges can make tighten the screws.

1. The judgment form the appeals court allowing "complimentary methods.." is likely to go before Maraga
2. The judgments on various issues around election which were ruled in favor of Uhuru at midnight will be going to the SCOK where they have already been seen negatively

In brief, they know if he survives the 58 days he has stated what he will do to them.

He should sustain the attacks. I think it emboldens others to actually piss him off without fear of consequences. I mean who knows he can't do zilch?

It also affirms the independence of Judiciary something they have never fully regained ever since 2013 at least according to some.

And finally, it gives NASWA enough ammo to go against him.
... [the ICC case] will be tried in Europe, where due procedure and expertise prevail.; ... Second-guessing Ocampo and fantasizing ..has obviously become a national pastime.- NattyDread

Offline Kichwa

  • Moderator
  • Enigma
  • *
  • Posts: 2886
  • Reputation: 2697
Re: The Executive has no authority to interogate Judges....
« Reply #5 on: September 02, 2017, 07:55:14 PM »
Maraga has become so popular world wide and it is not a good idea to go after him personally.  The Kisii vote is another  reason why going after Maraga is going to benefit NASA.  This is the real Ouru, a drunk, unhinged and a fake prophet of democracy.


strange while you were writing this I was thinking and writing the same. I agree, it will backfire on him badly. He has 60 days and the judges can make tighten the screws.

1. The judgment form the appeals court allowing "complimentary methods.." is likely to go before Maraga
2. The judgments on various issues around election which were ruled in favor of Uhuru at midnight will be going to the SCOK where they have already been seen negatively

In brief, they know if he survives the 58 days he has stated what he will do to them.

He should sustain the attacks. I think it emboldens others to actually piss him off without fear of consequences. I mean who knows he can't do zilch?

It also affirms the independence of Judiciary something they have never fully regained ever since 2013 at least according to some.

And finally, it gives NASWA enough ammo to go against him.
"I have done my job and I will not change anything dead or a live" Malonza

Offline vooke

  • Moderator
  • Enigma
  • *
  • Posts: 5985
  • Reputation: 8906
Re: The Executive has no authority to interogate Judges....
« Reply #6 on: September 02, 2017, 08:03:08 PM »
I'd only go after them if I'm damn sure of the following;
1. I rigged and I can't rig again so I'm losing
2. I won fair and square and I'll win again by an even higher margin.

#2 is not delivered drunk but very soberly and actually looking forward to prove them wrong.

Babu must be the happiest negro under the sun...watching his opponent implode all by himself.
2 Timothy 2:4  No man that warreth entangleth himself with the affairs of this life; that he may please him who hath chosen him to be a soldier.