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Offline Georgesoros

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Is this fake news???
« on: June 26, 2017, 02:31:54 PM »
Was there any oversight when this bridge was being built??
The engineer who oversaw this should be charged....

https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/article/2001244931/sigiri-bridge-jubilee-flagship-project-collapses

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Re: Is this fake news???
« Reply #1 on: June 26, 2017, 03:06:55 PM »
Miti yote huteleza lini?
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Re: Is this fake news???
« Reply #2 on: June 26, 2017, 03:07:28 PM »
Maybe because it wasn't built by the Chinese.  But it doesn't seem like a complicated project.
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Re: Is this fake news???
« Reply #3 on: June 26, 2017, 03:15:54 PM »
Maybe because it wasn't built by the Chinese.  But it doesn't seem like a complicated project.
I deal with contractors. Where whenver you see sub standard work and corner cutting, most likely the man has been squeezed for everything by some rent seeker and is trying to make ends meet. He would cut on most essentials.

Most of the public structures are built with half of what is required. That appears to be a structural weakness. That points at weak of few steel or weak cement/ concrete. Where the structural engineer recommended a much bigger steal bar, the contractor bought a cheaper and slightly smaller. They are so clever it takes a keen engineer to tell the difference.

I also learned that the thing that can never be hurried is the construction of a bridge. Time is part of the construction process. Casting of cement must be done at the right time and allowed to cure. Uhuru must have rushed to get it launched in time for Jubilee campaigns. We may see more of that on the SGR
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Re: Is this fake news???
« Reply #4 on: June 26, 2017, 07:51:34 PM »
This is a public health issue. Anyone can be using this bridge - including Uhuru.
Am sure these will be dismissed as an accident. What if vehicles had started using it???
Corruption at thehighest level.
The saddest this is that nobody will make it a campaign issue - Collapsing bridges and shoddy govt. work.

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Re: Is this fake news???
« Reply #5 on: June 26, 2017, 08:01:34 PM »
Maybe because it wasn't built by the Chinese.  But it doesn't seem like a complicated project.

The article suggest that it was built by the Chinese.    Bride-collapses are quite common in China itself---probably something like 3 or 4 a year.     The cause is always the same: shoddy, corner-cutting construction.    I have no reason to believe that they would bring a higher standard to Kenya, a land of real "opportunity".
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Re: Is this fake news???
« Reply #6 on: June 26, 2017, 08:13:43 PM »
Maybe because it wasn't built by the Chinese.  But it doesn't seem like a complicated project.

The engineers and contractors are all Chinese.

"The bridge is a governments project being executed by China Overseas Engineering Co. (COVEC)."

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Re: Is this fake news???
« Reply #7 on: June 26, 2017, 08:15:02 PM »
Maybe because it wasn't built by the Chinese.  But it doesn't seem like a complicated project.

The article suggest that it was built by the Chinese.    Bride-collapses are quite common in China itself---probably something like 3 or 4 a year.     The cause is always the same: shoddy, corner-cutting construction.    I have no reason to believe that they would bring a higher standard to Kenya, a land of real "opportunity".

Yup.  I was aware.  I was pushing some buttons in oblique fashion.
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Re: Is this fake news???
« Reply #8 on: June 26, 2017, 08:19:26 PM »
Yup.  I was aware.  I was pushing some buttons in oblique fashion.

Yep; I was slow on that one.   Something to do with my image of you as seriously straight arrow.    :D
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Re: Is this fake news???
« Reply #9 on: June 26, 2017, 08:20:54 PM »
Jubilee must go home. They have ceded too much ground to Chinese. The government should have limited Chinese involvement to a few "complex or expensive" projects e.g. tunneling

Local expertise could have been continuously improved by being given projects on merit.

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Re: Is this fake news???
« Reply #10 on: June 27, 2017, 03:39:11 PM »
Do they check credentials of these people before hiring them?
You couldn't hire a surgeon on their word!!
THis looks like people with fake credentials.

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Re: Is this fake news???
« Reply #11 on: June 27, 2017, 03:48:43 PM »
Go slow. Such happen everywhere.