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Offline Georgesoros

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Is lying to police a crime in Kenya?
« on: March 16, 2016, 05:58:44 AM »
If so how come Waiguru has not been charged?
She lied that she did not know her hair dresser.
Same thing with Kidero. He lied that there was no deposit on 300m into his account..
start with the simple and work your way up.
Why should it take over 6mos to investigate a simple case!!

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Re: Is lying to police a crime in Kenya?
« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2016, 01:11:14 PM »
Pakerpen,

I feel your frustration.  But you have to make peace with the fact that Kenya is Kenya.  I no longer subscribe to the notion that the way Kenya operates is different from how the Kenyan on the street wants it. 

After fifty years, nations establish a trajectory and national culture that won't change barring revolution.  Kenya has had opportunities to choose direction and they have chosen it reliably at every election.
"I freed a thousand slaves.  I could have freed a thousand more if only they knew they were slaves."

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Re: Is lying to police a crime in Kenya?
« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2016, 01:50:16 PM »
I no longer subscribe to the notion that the way Kenya operates is different from how the Kenyan on the street wants it.

Neither do I.   To put it in Americanese, Kenyans are in a/their "comfort zone".   Nothing will change as long as elections and so on---and that's where the "regular folks" have anything like real power---are decided on the basis of our-this and our-that, without the slightest thought given to character, integrity, past performance, potential for future performance, etc.

The way things work right now is that the electorate doesn't think of those things when it should, gets furious and disgusted for 5 years, throws out a bunch of people, and then (going back to the start) elects a similar lot for the replacements. 

It took 24 years of Moi beating the crap out of them to get Kenyans to think differently.   Then it was back to business-as-usual.   Right now Uhuru's government has been using its "tyranny of numbers" to get into "dictatorship-by-stealth".   Quite a few backward laws are being passed that elsewhere would get massive crowds into the streets.   But in Kenya, hardly anyone seems to notice.   (Here, I have faith in Willy Mutunga: there are things he can't really say as CJ, but he's been giving hints that he will be more forthcoming once off the bench.)
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Re: Is lying to police a crime in Kenya?
« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2016, 02:38:48 PM »
Kenya is change but being a really big ship you cannot feel it. The same way you cannot feel the earth rotate daily.

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Re: Is lying to police a crime in Kenya?
« Reply #4 on: March 17, 2016, 09:47:20 AM »
RVP,
Kenya is an orderless shipwreck. It has no agenda to pull masses out of poverty. Kenya need genuine leadership, not the current selfish lot.

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Re: Is lying to police a crime in Kenya?
« Reply #5 on: March 17, 2016, 06:08:49 PM »
I agree with you. Change at current rate will take 1000yrs. The masses are not benefiting if at all. Meanwhile, the pop will hit 50 million in two years - three times 1970s.

Kenya is change but being a really big ship you cannot feel it. The same way you cannot feel the earth rotate daily.

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Re: Is lying to police a crime in Kenya?
« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2016, 06:13:36 PM »
This is the same thing that has been happening for over 30yrs.
Why should a court be involved in a case that is pending?
If they did not have a warrant then the court should declare it an illegal search, not stop the investigatory body from conducting its business.
http://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2016/03/17/governor-wairia-obtains-order-barring-eacc-from-arresting-him-over_c1315328

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Re: Is lying to police a crime in Kenya?
« Reply #7 on: March 19, 2016, 02:50:01 PM »
I agree Kenya is changing fast; we are now hearing of NYS, Eurobond as they happen real time not after 10-20 years and action is happenning heads roll...we are moving towards somewhere
Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one ~ Thomas Paine

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Re: Is lying to police a crime in Kenya?
« Reply #8 on: March 20, 2016, 07:45:55 PM »
I agree Kenya is changing fast; we are now hearing of NYS, Eurobond as they happen real time not after 10-20 years and action is happenning heads roll...we are moving towards somewhere
It's just that much harder control the means and access to information 2016.  Ultimately the effect of these revelations seems to be the opposite of what one might expect in a normal society.  Stealing on a grand scale is becoming normalized. 

It seems like if you are caught, and you just advertise more theft, it dumpens the outrage.  It creates cynicism.  A sense of helplessness.  That is why I think this burden should be removed from Kenyans' shoulders so they can focus on important stuff in the knowledge that someone else is looking into the issue.
"I freed a thousand slaves.  I could have freed a thousand more if only they knew they were slaves."

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