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Nuff Sed, are you a vegan?
« on: February 14, 2015, 10:13:17 PM »
Still following the confused 'health' manuals from White?
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Re: Nuff Sed, are you a vegan?
« Reply #1 on: May 29, 2015, 12:12:35 PM »
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Does eating pepper or a slice of turkey make me less spiritual? Why, to this day, does the Loma Linda University student cafeteria not have black pepper available for its patrons? Will eating bread warm from the oven ruin my health, blocking my communication with God? Does it glorify God if I live in a catsup-free zone?

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Re: Nuff Sed, are you a vegan?
« Reply #2 on: May 29, 2015, 12:22:25 PM »
It seems like a lifestyle one would recommend from a healthy eating perspective.  When I discovered that I got painful canker sores every time I ate a pineapple, I replaced it with papaya and have never looked back.
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Re: Nuff Sed, are you a vegan?
« Reply #3 on: May 29, 2015, 12:36:24 PM »
It seems like a lifestyle one would recommend from a healthy eating perspective.  When I discovered that I got painful canker sores every time I ate a pineapple, I replaced it with papaya and have never looked back.
Termie,
I hate pineapples for the same reasons, too much acid. If I have to, I prefer the over-ripe,slightly fermented and the base part because it has the highest sugar content.

While an average Adventist walks around imagining that Ellen White was 'inspired' and 'ahead of her time' because of her 'health visions,they fail to realize that the 'health' messages was the fad in her time and well before she was born. Adventists are quite comfortable dissecting Catholicism history spanning hundreds of years but they are extremely terrified of confronting theirs which is barely 150 years young.
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Re: Nuff Sed, are you a vegan?
« Reply #4 on: May 29, 2015, 03:20:36 PM »
Ellen G. White advocated for a vegetarian diet (not vegan). Read more about Adventist diet here: http://www.ivu.org/history/adventists/white.html. The Adventist health message goes far beyond diet (includes exercise, use of plenty of fresh water, sunlight, temperance/moderation of the use of all healthy things and foods, fresh air, plenty of rest (including on the Sabbath), and trust in God. Adventist health principles including vegetarian diet are some of the reasons Adventists are almost always included in longevity studies.

http://edition.cnn.com/videos/world/2015/02/20/spc-vital-signs-art-of-aging-a.cnn

http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-30351406

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/31/seventh-day-adventists-life-expectancy_n_5638098.html

Statistics have shown that religion makes people happier, but it turns out it can help you live longer, too.
In an attempt to "reverse engineer longevity," Dan Buettner has spent years researching the parts of the world where people live much longer than average. Most of those locations are outside the United States -- including Sardinia, Italy, and Okinawa, Japan -- but there is one long-living group stateside. It's the Seventh-day Adventists, who live an average of 10 years longer than the American life expectancy of about 79 years.

http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/healthscience/2015/February/Secrets-to-Longevity-Revealed-in-Denominations-Lifestyle/

http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/ngm/0511/feature1/
What if I said you could add up to ten years to your life? A long healthy life is no accident. It begins with good genes, but it also depends on good habits. If you adopt the right lifestyle, experts say, chances are you may live up to a decade longer. So what's the formula for success? In recent years researchers have fanned out across the globe to find the secrets to long life. Funded in part by the U.S. National Institute on Aging, scientists have focused on several regions where people live significantly longer. In Sardinia, Italy, one team of demographers found a hot spot of longevity in mountain villages where men reach age 100 at an amazing rate. On the islands of Okinawa, Japan, another team examined a group that is among the longest lived on Earth. And in Loma Linda, California, researchers studied a group of Seventh-day Adventists who rank among America's longevity all-stars. Residents of these three places produce a high rate of centenarians, suffer a fraction of the diseases that commonly kill people in other parts of the developed world, and enjoy more healthy years of life. In sum, they offer three sets of "best practices" to emulate. The rest is up to you.

http://www.oregonlive.com/living/index.ssf/2012/05/seventh-day_adventists_health.html
Long before the culture around them embraced vegetarian diets, the search for vitamin D and the elusive goal of a good night's sleep, Seventh-day Adventists had staked their lives on health principles laid down by their founders more than 150 years ago. Ellen White, who wrote scores of books for her fellow Adventists, summarized the "Eight Laws of Health" in the 1860s. Today, as many mainstream Christian denominations are losing members in the United States, Adventists are growing steadily, partly because of their emphasis on wellness.
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Re: Nuff Sed, are you a vegan?
« Reply #5 on: May 29, 2015, 06:05:30 PM »
Ellen G. White advocated for a vegetarian diet (not vegan). Read more about Adventist diet here: http://www.ivu.org/history/adventists/white.html. The Adventist health message goes far beyond diet (includes exercise, use of plenty of fresh water, sunlight, temperance/moderation of the use of all healthy things and foods, fresh air, plenty of rest (including on the Sabbath), and trust in God. Adventist health principles including vegetarian diet are some of the reasons Adventists are almost always included in longevity studies.

http://edition.cnn.com/videos/world/2015/02/20/spc-vital-signs-art-of-aging-a.cnn

http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-30351406

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/31/seventh-day-adventists-life-expectancy_n_5638098.html

Statistics have shown that religion makes people happier, but it turns out it can help you live longer, too.
In an attempt to "reverse engineer longevity," Dan Buettner has spent years researching the parts of the world where people live much longer than average. Most of those locations are outside the United States -- including Sardinia, Italy, and Okinawa, Japan -- but there is one long-living group stateside. It's the Seventh-day Adventists, who live an average of 10 years longer than the American life expectancy of about 79 years.

http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/healthscience/2015/February/Secrets-to-Longevity-Revealed-in-Denominations-Lifestyle/

http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/ngm/0511/feature1/
What if I said you could add up to ten years to your life? A long healthy life is no accident. It begins with good genes, but it also depends on good habits. If you adopt the right lifestyle, experts say, chances are you may live up to a decade longer. So what's the formula for success? In recent years researchers have fanned out across the globe to find the secrets to long life. Funded in part by the U.S. National Institute on Aging, scientists have focused on several regions where people live significantly longer. In Sardinia, Italy, one team of demographers found a hot spot of longevity in mountain villages where men reach age 100 at an amazing rate. On the islands of Okinawa, Japan, another team examined a group that is among the longest lived on Earth. And in Loma Linda, California, researchers studied a group of Seventh-day Adventists who rank among America's longevity all-stars. Residents of these three places produce a high rate of centenarians, suffer a fraction of the diseases that commonly kill people in other parts of the developed world, and enjoy more healthy years of life. In sum, they offer three sets of "best practices" to emulate. The rest is up to you.

http://www.oregonlive.com/living/index.ssf/2012/05/seventh-day_adventists_health.html
Long before the culture around them embraced vegetarian diets, the search for vitamin D and the elusive goal of a good night's sleep, Seventh-day Adventists had staked their lives on health principles laid down by their founders more than 150 years ago. Ellen White, who wrote scores of books for her fellow Adventists, summarized the "Eight Laws of Health" in the 1860s. Today, as many mainstream Christian denominations are losing members in the United States, Adventists are growing steadily, partly because of their emphasis on wellness.

There is nothing EGW said or wrote that had not been written,taught and emphasised decades before. She copied everything and would have you sheeple believe she received it in a vision.

Can you imagine vooke catching a vision of al shabaab attacks now?

And don't kid you, atheism, eastern religion are all on the rise in America not to mention Islam
2 Timothy 2:4  No man that warreth entangleth himself with the affairs of this life; that he may please him who hath chosen him to be a soldier.

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Re: Nuff Sed, are you a vegan?
« Reply #6 on: May 29, 2015, 09:05:28 PM »
I have looked the "SDA Diet".   It seems very sensible.   Is the problem that it came from this Ellen White lady?
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Re: Nuff Sed, are you a vegan?
« Reply #7 on: May 29, 2015, 10:01:37 PM »
I have looked the "SDA Diet".   It seems very sensible.   Is the problem that it came from this Ellen White lady?
No.
The problem is that Ellen White waited till she had 'visions' before endorsing a 'health' movement that predated her birth by decades, and she swore hers was from God himself.

A bigger problem is that she is routinely packaged as 'ahead of her time' as a result of her 'health visions'.

An even bigger problem is, the irony of it all is lost on her adherents; elaborate 'health visions' borrowing EVERYTHING from existing fads.

The biggest problem? As medical science advanced and some of her 'health visions' turned ludicrous, they was omitted from later editions of her books where possible, while the rest are regarded as 'innocent mistakes of a 19th century rural girl'
2 Timothy 2:4  No man that warreth entangleth himself with the affairs of this life; that he may please him who hath chosen him to be a soldier.

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Re: Nuff Sed, are you a vegan?
« Reply #8 on: May 30, 2015, 12:11:32 AM »
I was asking about just the "diet".   But never mind; it's "reassuring" to note, from this thread, that Christian folk haven't lost the ability to trade hard sectarian blows.   
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Re: Nuff Sed, are you a vegan?
« Reply #9 on: May 30, 2015, 09:46:14 AM »


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A second negative aspect of the Adventist health message is that it confuses the simple gospel of faith in Christ by making healthful living a means of acceptance with God and/or personal sanctification.



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Re: Nuff Sed, are you a vegan?
« Reply #10 on: June 03, 2015, 03:16:06 PM »
I have looked the "SDA Diet".   It seems very sensible.   Is the problem that it came from this Ellen White lady?

If Ellen White said the sky was blue, Voke would paint it red.
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Re: Nuff Sed, are you a vegan?
« Reply #11 on: June 03, 2015, 03:34:28 PM »
I have looked the "SDA Diet".   It seems very sensible.   Is the problem that it came from this Ellen White lady?

If Ellen White said the sky was blue, Voke would paint it red.
Nuff Sed, it's vooke not Voke.
Ellen White has said the sky is green and you have been repeating that for 150 years and you risk hell for challenging her
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Re: Nuff Sed, are you a vegan?
« Reply #12 on: June 05, 2015, 07:41:03 PM »
Nuff Sed,
Is there anything on Ellen White's dietary madness that had not been said before?
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Re: Nuff Sed, are you a vegan?
« Reply #13 on: August 05, 2015, 02:14:25 PM »

The Bible and Vegeterianism
http://www.tektonics.org/uz/veggie02.php
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Re: Nuff Sed, are you a vegan?
« Reply #14 on: October 28, 2015, 11:04:42 PM »
www.bbc.com/news/health-34615621

Ellen G. White's inspiration vindicated once again.
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« Reply #15 on: October 29, 2015, 03:52:08 PM »
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