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Re: Dr Njoroge turn downs perks and choose to live in communal house
« Reply #20 on: July 03, 2015, 01:05:56 PM »
Just to butt in to explain why Opus dei recruit only in some place: I was born into a catholic family though I quit as soon as I was in Sunday school. Catholic is a conglomerate ran by different groups or sects if you will all which eventually report to Pope. When you hear a school or institution is referred to say St' Thomas..then it ran by folks who subscribed to St' Thomas...and most likely all St' Thomas around the world are under that philosophy. Say with St Patrick and they probably report to some Irish Catholic group.  Some report to India, Ireland, US, name them.

Strath-more was founded and ran by Opus Dei. They therefore "recruit" from there. They share their life ideals and if you like it, you're free to join on your own will. They cannot possibly go to say St' Marys or St' Patrick to preach and convert people who subscribe to different "ideal" or are inspired by different calling. St Theresea is maybe a sect by folks insipired to say live like Mother Theresa...help poor diseases folks.

Opuis dei I know are brilliant folks invited by fellow Opus dei, they work and all their salaries goes to Opus dei.


Interesting stuff.

I have no reason to believe that the man is anything other than a fine outstanding man and a pillar of the community.    Nevertheless, I am intrigued by this idea that the proof of that comes from his evidently public displays of piety.   Given the connection to the "Catholic Church", I will note this: whatever possible evil, large or small that one can think of, there is a Pope who excelled at it while at the very time managing to "piously" lead the "flock".    As an example, one of the scandals of our times is that of "holy" and "celibate" types fucking little boys in the butt.   What is new about that is the recent revelations; otherwise, that's been going on for hundreds of years, with some popes leading the way.

Beyond the "Catholic Church", one can readily elsewhere find reminders of "pious", "holy" types being anything but.   For example, in Thailand, it is not unusual to learn that a "celibate" type who "lives in a communal house" and who gets his food by "begging" is actually living large---flying on private jets, enjoying plenty of pussy, has a huge bank account, etc.

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/07/04/sex-scandal--money-laundering-probe-thai-buddhist-monk-private-jet_n_3546552.html

I don't know much about Opus Dei, i.e. beyond what the "casual" person might find in, say, Wikipedia.   I have heard claims that they are some sort of "secret cult", and I have heard counters to that charge.   But I have today learned, here, that in Kenya they are "discreet" and that Githongo couldn't possibly be one of them because they "recruit" in just some selected places.   The very notion of recruiting is an interesting one: Just what is it that they are recruiting for?   And why should it be that the "it" can be found at Strathmore but not at St. Mary's?   And why is it necessary to be "discreet" about it?

Beyond all that, one may consider a basic question: Is his a fine example that will inspire other Kenyans to a less thieving "lifestyle"?      It is nice to believe or imagine so, but I doubt it.     Corruption in pursuit of "the good life"---and especially theft from public coffers---is far too deeply ingrained in our culture.   Anyone who had a good opportunity to rob the public is expected to do so and is regarded as a fool of he or she does otherwise.   

In the Kenyan context, I see this case as not too dissimilar from that of a two-tailed dog.   A "marvel" to behold and talk about?  Certainly.   But one should not be "automatically"  led to believe that it will (a) inspire the single-tailed ones to more vigorous wagging or (b) provide more barking or better protection for the owner.

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Re: Dr Njoroge turn downs perks and choose to live in communal house
« Reply #21 on: July 03, 2015, 01:17:21 PM »
Strath-more was founded and ran by Opus Dei. They therefore "recruit" from there. They share their life ideals and if you like it, you're free to join on your own will. They cannot possibly go to say St' Marys or St' Patrick to preach and convert people who subscribe to different ideal.

That gives me a useful idea of why the different-schools thing.    (Why they have to be "discreet" still remains.)

So.   If I understand you correctly, the "Catholic Church" is itself divided into little groups or  whatever, and each of these little groups or whatever feels it has some "turf" to protect and is keenly conscious of the "need" to respect another lot's "turf".   Interesting.

Has anyone actually stopped to reflect on the real meaning of the word "catholic"?
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Re: Dr Njoroge turn downs perks and choose to live in communal house
« Reply #22 on: July 03, 2015, 03:16:33 PM »
MOON Ki,

Just clearing a few perceptions.

One can join Opus Dei as a numerary from anywhere.  While they tend to be dominated by Strathmore alumni because that is sort of their main base in Kenya, it is not exclusive to Strath alumni at all.  I know quite a few insiders who are non-Strath alumni.

They tend to welcome professional types or those who show promise of the same.  In the process they end up with high income earners.  An Opus Dei communal dorm is not exactly a migrant laborer's quarters.  They are not exactly struggling.

I assumed Githongo was one because of the company he keeps and his general demeanor.  Being from Saint Mary's is not a hinderance.  I know more than a few saints that are actually members.
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