Who "fixed" Ruto at the ICC?

[MOON Ki]

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http://www.the-star.co.ke/article/mutea-iringo-demands-apology-dp-rutos-icc-lawyers#sthash.xxBm7Kzj.dpbs

Two points that are "beyond reasonable doubt":

(a) Karim Khan has seen whatever the ICC-OTP has against his client and also knows the exact sources. 

(b) Said Karim Khan stood up in open court and read out the names of those who had supposedly fixed his client.   

Khan has his "issues"---a lack of modesty and refrain being chief among those--but not one of his detractors would ever accuse him of sloppiness or failure to do homework.    Khan also knew that he was publicly naming powerful people in GoK.

What to make of all that?

[Omollo]

Karim was right on the loot.

If I may engage in a little Conspiracy Theorizing here:

1. The main object of the Iringo Team was Raila Odinga. They were tasked to find evidence to link him to violence and deliver him to The Hague
2. They could only do that by linking him to ODM to get the "organizational Conspiracy" portion right
3. That meant roping in the violence in Kisumu.
4. The experts warned them that while the RV people hit back, the Kisumu events were a one-sided killing spree by GoK and it would backfire.
4. The team therefore prevented even Waki from taking evidence in Kisumu and only casually stopped in Naivasha.
5. Ruto was always number two. The votes he brought to ODM scared the shit out of GEMA and he caused Kibaki a headache with so many of his people displaced from RV - something he pinned on Ruto
6. A decision was made that Ruto had to either be separated from Raila or be scientifically exorcised. There was fear that the latter could cause more trouble for the remaining RV Kyuks
7. Pressure was applied to get him to squeal. Raila closed his ears and eyes as GEMA set about wrestling Ruto from him. The Maize Scandal and Suspension were all poison chalices handed over to Raila to mess him and he grabbed them with alacrity (That is when I announced my own "stepping aside" from ODM)

Post script:

Ruto has been forgiven and plans to jettison him before 2017 are called off. He will however no longer be useful after 2017 and will have to go!

This just in:

http://www.the-star.co.ke/article/mutea-iringo-demands-apology-dp-rutos-icc-lawyers#sthash.xxBm7Kzj.dpbs

Two points that are "beyond reasonable doubt":

(a) Karim Khan has seen whatever the ICC-OTP has against his client and also knows the exact sources. 

(b) Said Karim Khan stood up in open court and read out the names of those who had supposedly fixed his client.   

Khan has his "issues"---a lack of modesty and refrain being chief among those--but not one of his detractors would ever accuse him of sloppiness or failure to do homework.    Khan also knew that he was publicly naming powerful people in GoK.

What to make of all that?

[RV Pundit]

There were all sort of fixers as you would expect in political competition.
1) NGO/Human rights organisation were probably the first fixers in cahoot with international partners (read US and EU) way back in Jan when ODM-PNU were basically ducking it out.
2) ODM being powerless were the first to collect their own cooked evidence to present to ICC also around the same time.
3) PNU also started collecting their own cooked evidence.

After which there was a power agreement...where Kibaki and Raila emerges the top dog.

Ruto and Raila fall out. Ruto merges with Uhuru's KANU informally as early as April 2008.

PNU (read Karua-Saitoti) and Raila are now Ruto enemies...Raila uses his connection in UNHCR (read Hassan Omari) to fix Ruto...PNU (read Karua) keep the plot up.

So Ruto was fixed by PNU,Raila, NGOS and International community.

I believe he was innocent and he will be vindicated.

I was in RV before and after election and PEV WAS NEVER PLANNED.

[Omollo]

While I can't argue with your opinion seeing that I too came up with a long winding conspiracy, I have no idea why Raila would want to wreck Ruto. Their differences arose much later towards the end of 2008 when Ocampo had already been to the country. If he did it, it was an afterthought and what a stupid idea!

I cannot rule it out because Raila got too beholden to Mudavadi. Mudavadi has been a GEMA mole since the days of his father (from what we hear from his close university friends). There is no way Mudavadi with the Goldenberg case hanging over his head would have antagonized GEMA. I believe he may not have engineered the fixing but may have inspired it.

I know about the letter by Anyang Nyong'o which left me breathless. I then watched the Mau Forest Evictions and wondered whether Raila had gone mad (I am sure Pundit recalls my hardline on the issue).

Omar Hassan and Kiai were simply doing their job. I however think they may have unwittingly taken in doctored information. It is amazing how they ignored Kisumu and Grace Kaindi murdering children to concentrate on RV.

I know ODM collected evidence in 2008 but this targeted PNU. I would wish to know at what point ODM started on its own man

There were all sort of fixers as you would expect in political competition.
1) NGO/Human rights organisation were probably the first fixers in cahoot with international partners (read US and EU) way back in Jan when ODM-PNU were basically ducking it out.
2) ODM being powerless were the first to collect their own cooked evidence to present to ICC also around the same time.
3) PNU also started collecting their own cooked evidence.

After which there was a power agreement...where Kibaki and Raila emerges the top dog.

Ruto and Raila fall out. Ruto merges with Uhuru's KANU informally as early as April 2008.

PNU (read Karua-Saitoti) and Raila are now Ruto enemies...Raila uses his connection in UNHCR (read Hassan Omari) to fix Ruto...PNU (read Karua) keep the plot up.

So Ruto was fixed by PNU,Raila, NGOS and International community.

I believe he was innocent and he will be vindicated.

I was in RV before and after election and PEV WAS NEVER PLANNED.

[RV Pundit]

I think Raila fell out with Ruto the day of Sagana when Ruto didn't get any serious post. I first saw Ruto-Uhuru walking together with KANU era mps when the building next to Nation was burning down. That i think was early 2008.

I'm not sure the full extend of Raila involvement..but I think he kept tabs with what was going on both in Waki and UNHCR. Either Omar or her boss (Jaoko lady) most likely kept him updated.

But I don't see how Ruto as the eminent kalenjin leader would have escaped mention anyway (except for similar curious case why Raila and Kibaki are not on trial) given many kikuyus wrongly believed PEV in RV was planned. It was more desperation. At some point they even thought Ruto was using live TV message to send coded messages...it was a desperation borne out of collapsed state machinery.

Definitely Ruto and others played the Kikuyu rhetoric.....just like all politicians did....but violence in RV erupted spontaneously and took a life of it's own very quickly.

I can compare to say riots in US cities and london riots. You cannot pin it to Al sharpton. People just erupted and use traditional war infrastructure to launch attacks against PNU.

I was there..before and after the election. Most kalenjin except those in molo (which was war zone everytime) were picking cues from Luo Nyanza..where violence started early (PNU APS on 26th were being pulled out and knifed in places like Awendo) and later Nairobi and Kisumu erupted before even kibaki was sworn...RV would erupt the night kibaki was sworn.

While I can't argue with your opinion seeing that I too came up with a long winding conspiracy, I have no idea why Raila would want to wreck Ruto. Their differences arose much later towards the end of 2008 when Ocampo had already been to the country. If he did it, it was an afterthought and what a stupid idea!

I cannot rule it out because Raila got too beholden to Mudavadi. Mudavadi has been a GEMA mole since the days of his father (from what we hear from his close university friends). There is no way Mudavadi with the Goldenberg case hanging over his head would have antagonized GEMA. I believe he may not have engineered the fixing but may have inspired it.

I know about the letter by Anyang Nyong'o which left me breathless. I then watched the Mau Forest Evictions and wondered whether Raila had gone mad (I am sure Pundit recalls my hardline on the issue).

Omar Hassan and Kiai were simply doing their job. I however think they may have unwittingly taken in doctored information. It is amazing how they ignored Kisumu and Grace Kaindi murdering children to concentrate on RV.

I know ODM collected evidence in 2008 but this targeted PNU. I would wish to know at what point ODM started on its own man

[Omollo]

Sagana was a deadly blunder that no politician can make and survive. I have to this day never understood what got over Raila. Miguna has speculated that the likes of Dalmas Otieno and Mudavadi who desired to be in government at all costs forced his hand.

But on a personal level, I think the decision to pander to his ego paid off. He was being flown in a formation of helicopters rto Sagana. The choice of location could not have been more unfortunate.

But his greatest failure was to simply ignore to consult his negotiating team. We had asked him to drop the hostility towards Kalonzo and open backdoor negotiations with Kalonzo and make certain understandings with those who were bankrolling him especially Mutula and Muthama. But a coterie of self seekers established a cordon sanitaire around him. It was even hard to get a word through. We at least managed to stop him from wearing rags to press conferences and asked that he dress in business suits to match Kibaki.

The idea of granting interviews other than live transmissions was ignored. His words were edited and bent. In such a scenario, they should have identified a photogenic woman speaking American and made her spokesperson. He should appear in suits but far away from cameras and present a presidential image. This fell on deaf ears. He wanted to spin it all himself and he came off badly. Ruto would have made a good leader of the delegation not tired MaDVD who should not have been involved.

I think Raila fell out with Ruto the day of Sagana when Ruto didn't get any serious post. I first saw Ruto-Uhuru walking together with KANU era mps when the building next to Nation was burning down. That i think was early 2008.

I'm not sure the full extend of Raila involvement..but I think he kept tabs with what was going on both in Waki and UNHCR. Either Omar or her boss (Jaoko lady) most likely kept him updated.

But I don't see how Ruto as the eminent kalenjin leader would have escaped mention anyway (except for similar curious case why Raila and Kibaki are not on trial) given many kikuyus wrongly believed PEV in RV was planned. It was more desperation. At some point they even thought Ruto was using live TV message to send coded messages...it was a desperation borne out of collapsed state machinery.

Definitely Ruto and others played the Kikuyu rhetoric.....just like all politicians did....but violence in RV erupted spontaneously and took a life of it's own very quickly.

I can compare to say riots in US cities and london riots. You cannot pin it to Al sharpton. People just erupted and use traditional war infrastructure to launch attacks against PNU.

I was there..before and after the election. Most kalenjin except those in molo (which was war zone everytime) were picking cues from Luo Nyanza..where violence started early (PNU APS on 26th were being pulled out and knifed in places like Awendo) and later Nairobi and Kisumu erupted before even kibaki was sworn...RV would erupt the night kibaki was sworn.