Author Topic: Gachagua should keep up this fight against alcoholism in Central and RV  (Read 2281 times)

Offline RV Pundit

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Reduction of bars is good start. Clamp down on illegal brews.

https://nation.africa/kenya/counties/muranga/protests-in-murang-a-over-closure-of-bars-4262746

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Reduction of bars is good start. Clamp down on illegal brews.

https://nation.africa/kenya/counties/muranga/protests-in-murang-a-over-closure-of-bars-4262746

This goes completely against hustler narrative. Gov should be creating and naturing small business.

My village friend here deep in RV study analytical chemistry and has never got gainful employment. Ruto could have acquired a few analytical labs and hire young graduates to work with chief and health people to keep changaa healthy.

Ruto tax changaa and new employees and gets money back. Everyone is happy.


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Sounds like nice idea. But I doubt it will work. Mwafrika is far from being responsible drinker. I think more Mututho laws - strict enforcement.

Let them support economy by showing up in their farms - and growing food.

The patiala and even local brew are dangerous concoction with serious health implications.

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This is drastic martial bullshit. I can imagine after investing in Quiver Kenol and you have to worry about a license. Just adds another layer of corruption.

Running a business with some employees in this shithole is one of the hardest jobs in this earth because of county and national govt parasites who now want to close the few struggling business.

KEBS, KRA, government chemist, police and counties have primary responsibility to curb illicit liqour. They fail and punish bar owners. Madness with lazy government employees and politicians.

We need a stable business operating environment. Next Sakaja can wake up and cancel Super Metro license because of pollution and wants electric buses.
Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one ~ Thomas Paine

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Some business naturally attract gok and police - alcohol, matatus and such - and now add KRA and all the bastards.

We have a serious drug problem esp in central and rift valley -

What I have seen in my areas - with every clampdown - things are getting better

Only the tough keep drinking - majority just drop - the habit - and quickly rehabilitate. 

I would restrict clampdown to rural areas where people just live off their parents or wives - have so much idle time.

Urban areas - you cannot afford to be drunk and useless - you work for money. So Zone off large urban areas - allow as many bars as people want.

This is drastic martial bullshit. I can imagine after investing in Quiver Kenol and you have to worry about a license. Just adds another layer of corruption.

Running a business with some employees in this shithole is one of the hardest jobs in this earth because of county and national govt parasites who now want to close the few struggling business.

KEBS, KRA, government chemist, police and counties have primary responsibility to curb illicit liqour. They fail and punish bar owners. Madness with lazy government employees and politicians.

We need a stable business operating environment. Next Sakaja can wake up and cancel Super Metro license because of pollution and wants electric buses.


Offline hk

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This is drastic martial bullshit. I can imagine after investing in Quiver Kenol and you have to worry about a license. Just adds another layer of corruption.

Running a business with some employees in this shithole is one of the hardest jobs in this earth because of county and national govt parasites who now want to close the few struggling business.

KEBS, KRA, government chemist, police and counties have primary responsibility to curb illicit liqour. They fail and punish bar owners. Madness with lazy government employees and politicians.

We need a stable business operating environment. Next Sakaja can wake up and cancel Super Metro license because of pollution and wants electric buses.
Precisely.
The reason there's a huge illicit liqour its cause of taxation and regulations. Shutting down bars or limiting operations hours wont curb consumption. The fight is against the poor, quiver will get their licenses, but the small bar owners are the ones being shutdown or harassed. The poor aren't suppose to consume alcohol. 

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But are the poor really responsible enough to drink alcohol?
We need to examine that.
I think even in kalenjin old way of life - poor were restricted from taking alcohol.
Alcohol - should be for the responsible - for sherehe - poor should only drink on special occasions.
You have these very poor people who have to trade btw food and alcohol.
The bastards has not showered for months.
They drive their families deep and deep into poverty.

Soon they are dead or half dead.

Gov should not democratize consumption of alcohol and drugs. That is why I support Gachagua and Kuria - raise the minimum price of alcohol - weka 500shs for beer. Tax patialas out of the market.

Only allow KEG consumption - or something proven - to be safe and cheap beer.


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  • EVERY KENYAN SHOULD HAVE A GUN.
People start using drugs when they give up in life with the hope of early death to escape from the pains of life.

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  • EVERY KENYAN SHOULD HAVE A GUN.
The central Kenya economy is dead tea and coffee are gone.dairy industry was serious affected by few years of drought while food isn't sufficient.that means alcohol is a big business for livelihood of many people.Its Economy stupid.Any attempt to fight alcohol means political uprising.

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Fake theory.
People start using drugs when they give up in life with the hope of early death to escape from the pains of life.

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The reason there's a huge illicit liqour its cause of taxation and regulations

I think it's the above plus the sense of hopelessness especially among young men (no jobs, no future, no wives, no money, etc)

Everything is tied together.

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unintended adverse consequences. No feasible economic alternatives.
Looks the heckling will be very loud going forward with the sobriety and connecting of dots.

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“Although we are supporting the government in its fight against illicit liquor, the blanket closure of bars has badly affected our business,” Mathira Boda Boda Association Chairman Benjamin Mwangi told the Nation. "We used to ferry revellers home when the bars closed at 11pm but this is no longer the case.”

Ms Mercy Wacuka, who used to hawk sausages and boiled eggs from bar to bar, said she has lost her only source of a livelihood.

 “This government promised to uplift the hustlers but they are now making us poorer by the day,” she said. Echoing her views were many other small-scale traders, who called on the government to allow licensed establishments to reopen.

 “I hope they will come up with a solution and open the bars. You can see there are no customers,” said Mr Jackson Muriithi, who runs a streetside mutura stand.
https://nation.africa/kenya/counties/nyeri/mathira-s-economy-takes-a-beating-on-closure-of-bars-4654742
Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one ~ Thomas Paine

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Public officials should not get away so easily with some of these madness.

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Bar owners in Mathira, Nyeri County, have heaved a sigh of relief after the government bowed to pressure and lifted a four-month moratorium on alcohol business in the area.

https://nation.africa/kenya/counties/nyeri/cheers-to-freedom-mathira-bars-reopen-after-four-month-closure-sparks-outcry-4674528
Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one ~ Thomas Paine