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White House Declassifies Intel On Massive Russian Losses
« on: December 13, 2023, 12:28:18 AM »
By immersing themselves into drone warfare, Ukraine have considerably reduced actual losses on the battlefield.

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Russia has lost nearly 90% of its original troop strength since invading Ukraine in February 2022, a U.S. intelligence report, declassified as Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy visits Washington to plead for additional military aid, assessed, according to media reports.

Moscow’s hope with a massive, costly push into eastern Ukraine throughout the fall and early winter was to spark distrust of Ukraine’s abilities among its western allies and erode their support for the defending nation, Adrienne Watson, a spokeswoman for the National Security Council, said, according to The New York Times. Russia has lost up to 315,000 troops killed, wounded or missing in Ukraine since the start of the war and loads of equipment, setting back military modernization efforts roughly 15 years, according to a newly declassified intelligence assessment.

Russia began the war with 360,000 forces, and Moscow has conducted mobilizations and sent convicts to the front lines to compensate for the staggering losses, the NYT reported, citing the assessment. In addition, Russia has lost 2,200 tanks after starting the war with 3,500, resorting to pulling 50-year-old T-62 tanks out of retirement. (RELATED: Ukraine Is Running Out Of Men To Fight Against Russia)

Russia’s gambit did not produce any strategic gains, Watson said, according to the NYT. The U.S. intelligence community believes losses forced Russia to commit less sophisticated equipment and more inexperienced troops to the front, combining to reduce the complexity of Russian military operations on the front.

The war in Ukraine has sharply set back 15 years of Russian effort to modernize its ground force,” the declassified assessment said, according to the NYT. “As of late November, Russia had lost over a quarter of its pre-2022 stockpile of ground forces equipment and has suffered casualties among its trained professional army.”

While engaged in attritional fighting with Ukrainian troops in places like Avdiivka since October, the Russian army has suffered 13,000 men killed or wounded and the loss of 220 combat vehicles, Watson said, according to Politico.
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Re: White House Declassifies Intel On Massive Russian Losses
« Reply #1 on: December 18, 2023, 09:33:55 PM »
Huh? The US and EU have Gaza now? Elections?

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Ukraine has warned it is already being forced to downsize some military operations because of a drop-off in foreign aid.

Top general Oleksandr Tarnavskyi said troops faced ammunition shortages along the "entire front line", creating a "big problem" for Kyiv.

It comes as billions of dollars of US and EU aid have been held up amid political wrangles.

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Ukraine was already facing an ammunition shortage as Western powers struggled to maintain supplies. The EU pledged to send one million artillery shells by March 2024, but so far only 480,000 have been either delivered or are in the pipeline.

Meanwhile, the US has provided Ukraine with more than two million 155mm shells for use in Western-made artillery systems. But its own stocks have been depleted, prompting the decision last summer to send cluster munitions.

Ukraine is already using ammunition faster than partners can produce it. A report by the Estonian defence ministry said Kyiv needed a minimum of 200,000 artillery shells a month to retain an edge against Russia.

"Sustaining this rate will empty European and US stockpiles over 2024 and will require significant foreign purchases of ammunition," it said.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-67748813
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Re: White House Declassifies Intel On Massive Russian Losses
« Reply #2 on: December 18, 2023, 09:57:49 PM »
With war is plain and simple No winners only death and destruction. Current crisis it's clear to see things have not gone as NATO had planned.

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Re: White House Declassifies Intel On Massive Russian Losses
« Reply #3 on: December 19, 2023, 01:53:59 AM »
Only China, North Korea and Iran can match the shell supply Ukraine needs. But they are diehard pro-Russia. North Korea alone provided 1M shells to Russia. Others with less prowess are South Korea and India -- both are fencesitting, miserly traders who won't give arms for free.

Anyway we all discovered NATO had no capacity to beat Russia when they tried to cajole Gulf monarchs and global south to provide weapons: almost all refused, Brazil was the most blunt. Even poor Taiwan had to give weapons despite invasion threat from China.

But now they have to supply Israel too, especially in case of a face-off with Hezbollah. Zelenskyy is about to learn a very painful lesson. There will be backroom meetings among old spooks - a deal will be struck - a new 'neutral' leader will be picked and the comedian will merely be updated.
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Re: White House Declassifies Intel On Massive Russian Losses
« Reply #4 on: December 19, 2023, 03:06:34 PM »
Ukraine sent 17 drones, 270 miles into Russia to a place planes had been brought for safe keeping in a supposed safe distance from the frontlines.

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See how accurate these drone operators are. Each of the 10 got targets.
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The drones costing about $100K each knocked out 12 Su-34 aircraft that each cost $40M. If they had more drones & funding all 84 planes on the ground would have been flattened.


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Re: White House Declassifies Intel On Massive Russian Losses
« Reply #5 on: December 19, 2023, 04:43:01 PM »
I thought we discovered Russia has no capacity to beat Ukraine and needs help from Iran, North Korea and China.

Btw, are there any NATO forces fighting in Ukraine? NATO is only supplying arms to Ukraine.

Only China, North Korea and Iran can match the shell supply Ukraine needs. But they are diehard pro-Russia. North Korea alone provided 1M shells to Russia. Others with less prowess are South Korea and India -- both are fencesitting, miserly traders who won't give arms for free.

Anyway we all discovered NATO had no capacity to beat Russia when they tried to cajole Gulf monarchs and global south to provide weapons: almost all refused, Brazil was the most blunt. Even poor Taiwan had to give weapons despite invasion threat from China.

But now they have to supply Israel too, especially in case of a face-off with Hezbollah. Zelenskyy is about to learn a very painful lesson. There will be backroom meetings among old spooks - a deal will be struck - a new 'neutral' leader will be picked and the comedian will merely be updated.

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Re: White House Declassifies Intel On Massive Russian Losses
« Reply #6 on: December 19, 2023, 07:53:08 PM »
 Interesting how anyone would quote the New York times as a credible source. The Ukrainian war ceased being between Ukraine and Russia and has fully become a war between NATO and Russia. One can argue that is not the case since there's no direct confrontation between the two adversaries but it's pretty obvious to anyone with a brain that all the resources including targeting coordinates are being provided by NATO. Territorial gains are not being prioritized by any camp as much , emphasis is attrition which Russia is winning hands down. NATO cannot keep up with the industrial capacity of Russia as of now when it comes to military hardware. If we believed these crazy fake mainstream media Russia ran out of everything last year and has been fighting with shovels and bird cages on top of old Soviet tanks. Of course if your sources of information are the same folks who sold us crap in the last 20 years about Iraq and Afghanistan, there's not much that can dissuade you from believing such lies. On the same note let's then compare the numbers using the Russian declassified sources too below.. 😂😂
 
 https://www.rt.com/russia/589328-ukraine-conflict-total-losses/