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Upgrading ndidi nyoro..downgrading Gachagua
« on: October 14, 2023, 09:17:30 PM »
Can Ruto oust Gachagua..if he wants..it must be done now...

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Re: Upgrading ndidi nyoro..downgrading Gachagua
« Reply #1 on: October 14, 2023, 09:46:46 PM »
He can out Gachagua but until he fixes the economy and delivers what he promised hustlers in Central it won't change a thing. RUTO is in a very delicate situation. Now Ndindi Nyoro is being referred in Central as Thende Nyoro..the problem with Ndindi is that he has lost the son of a carpenter perception. His flaunting of wealth like ownership of kpl has made people question his credibility. They see him as either corrupt or as a proxy for some dynasty. NDINDI is currently in very delicate situation even in Kiharu..plus in kiharu there  a lot local social media journalism that is exposing a lot poverty there. Yaani poverty kikuyus though was not possible in rural agricultural areas. There is a whole industry of poverty porn that the kikuyus are masses are watching on YouTube on their smart phones or tvs for those with wifi. This type of poverty is making many kikuyus see the pr games nyoro has been involved in.


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Re: Upgrading ndidi nyoro..downgrading Gachagua
« Reply #3 on: October 14, 2023, 10:28:54 PM »
Like everyone has openly pointed out switching Thende Nyoro for Gachagua will not change a thing. Fix the economy first. Thende Nyoro will look more like a sell out.
« Last Edit: October 15, 2023, 04:06:51 AM by patel »

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Re: Upgrading ndidi nyoro..downgrading Gachagua
« Reply #4 on: October 14, 2023, 10:39:06 PM »
How will you downgrade him?

How will you manage the competition amongst ndindi ichungwa & kindiki?

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Re: Upgrading ndidi nyoro..downgrading Gachagua
« Reply #5 on: October 15, 2023, 06:40:15 AM »

Ruto is already in a big mess , No need of digging the hole further.
As majority as saying ro a kibaki , fix economy and get you second term.

Weeks ago you were number one supporter on Gachagua when we were telling you he is a non factor, now you realize it and hoping Ruto can play politics of dividing GEMA , wake up here is a rude awakening Nyoro nor Ichungwa can sway GEMA , if Uhuru who was a President couldnt what about these mere MPs.
GEMA politics is all about economics  the hustla revolution , Ruto needs to fix that and he will be in good hands .


Can Ruto oust Gachagua..if he wants..it must be done now...

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Re: Upgrading ndidi nyoro..downgrading Gachagua
« Reply #6 on: October 15, 2023, 06:40:50 AM »
How will you downgrade him?

How will you manage the competition amongst ndindi ichungwa & kindiki?

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Re: Upgrading ndidi nyoro..downgrading Gachagua
« Reply #7 on: October 15, 2023, 07:11:38 AM »
How will you downgrade him?

How will you manage the competition amongst ndindi ichungwa & kindiki?

What does being a Luo got to do with my opinion?

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Re: Upgrading ndidi nyoro..downgrading Gachagua
« Reply #8 on: October 15, 2023, 10:26:03 AM »
Initially Ruto was to run with Mwangi Kiunjuri - he messed up and I downgraded him.
I upgraded Gachagua - when all of you were shouting - no way - then Ruto picked him.
Now I see that Gachagua has fallen off the rails - and Ruto might replace him.
He will be impeached - because he is very vulnerable - unless he changes - and realize Ruto yuko level ingine - he should jump when told to jump.

What made him DPORK - will not keep him DPORK. Ruto needed a warrior against Uhuru and dynasties - Gachagua was the warrior and job is DONE. Now Ruto is spreading his wings - Gachagua is making it hard with his silly childish politics.

And it mistake to imagine Ruto will go in 2027 with same coalition of 50% - Ruto is seeking new grounds - new friends - new alliance. Gachagua has rear mirror view. Ruto is looking far ahead.

Most likely Ndidi Nyoro will replace him.


Ruto is already in a big mess , No need of digging the hole further.
As majority as saying ro a kibaki , fix economy and get you second term.

Weeks ago you were number one supporter on Gachagua when we were telling you he is a non factor, now you realize it and hoping Ruto can play politics of dividing GEMA , wake up here is a rude awakening Nyoro nor Ichungwa can sway GEMA , if Uhuru who was a President couldnt what about these mere MPs.
GEMA politics is all about economics  the hustla revolution , Ruto needs to fix that and he will be in good hands .


Can Ruto oust Gachagua..if he wants..it must be done now...

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Re: Upgrading ndidi nyoro..downgrading Gachagua
« Reply #9 on: October 15, 2023, 10:32:15 AM »
Initially Ruto was to run with Mwangi Kiunjuri - he messed up and I downgraded him.
I upgraded Gachagua - when all of you were shouting - no way - then Ruto picked him.
Now I see that Gachagua has fallen off the rails - and Ruto might replace him.
He will be impeached - because he is very vulnerable - unless he changes - and realize Ruto yuko level ingine - he should jump when told to jump.

What made him DPORK - will not keep him DPORK. Ruto needed a warrior against Uhuru and dynasties - Gachagua was the warrior and job is DONE. Now Ruto is spreading his wings - Gachagua is making it hard with his silly childish politics.

And it mistake to imagine Ruto will go in 2027 with same coalition of 50% - Ruto is seeking new grounds - new friends - new alliance. Gachagua has rear mirror view. Ruto is looking far ahead.

Most likely Ndidi Nyoro will replace him.


Ruto is already in a big mess , No need of digging the hole further.
As majority as saying ro a kibaki , fix economy and get you second term.

Weeks ago you were number one supporter on Gachagua when we were telling you he is a non factor, now you realize it and hoping Ruto can play politics of dividing GEMA , wake up here is a rude awakening Nyoro nor Ichungwa can sway GEMA , if Uhuru who was a President couldnt what about these mere MPs.
GEMA politics is all about economics  the hustla revolution , Ruto needs to fix that and he will be in good hands .


Can Ruto oust Gachagua..if he wants..it must be done now...

1) Will that not make Ndindi look like Kamotho?Ruto project in GEMA?

2) Incase Azimio vote block remains intact  &  Gachagua forns a GEMA splinter group,will that not make him a one term president?

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Re: Upgrading ndidi nyoro..downgrading Gachagua
« Reply #10 on: October 15, 2023, 10:34:01 AM »
Look at my posts , i predicted about Kiunjuri and Gachagua years before you started singing the same song .
The reason is simple because I am a legitimate GEMA.
I told you long before just after the elections Gachagua is not a factor in GEMA politics but you were praising him coz he was defending Ruto and singing Baba Mama to Ruto.
Im telling you GEMA moves different but you think Nyoro can control them .
Nop Ruto will get a rude awakening he might even awaken the GEMA voters who never went to the poll in 2022 just to discipline him for mismanaging the economy . Ask Uhuru what happened to him in 2002 and 2022 .
Unlike Nyanza and RV GEMA voters are sheeps they make a leader not the other way round . In 2013 they decided its Uhuru in 2022 they decided its Ruto . They might as well decide its Mlevi Kuria and indeed he will become their leader if the so wish .

Initially Ruto was to run with Mwangi Kiunjuri - he messed up and I downgraded him.
I upgraded Gachagua - when all of you were shouting - no way - then Ruto picked him.
Now I see that Gachagua has fallen off the rails - and Ruto might replace him.
He will be impeached - because he is very vulnerable - unless he changes - and realize Ruto yuko level ingine - he should jump when told to jump.

What made him DPORK - will not keep him DPORK. Ruto needed a warrior against Uhuru and dynasties - Gachagua was the warrior and job is DONE. Now Ruto is spreading his wings - Gachagua is making it hard with his silly childish politics.

Most likely Ndidi Nyoro will replace him.


Ruto is already in a big mess , No need of digging the hole further.
As majority as saying ro a kibaki , fix economy and get you second term.

Weeks ago you were number one supporter on Gachagua when we were telling you he is a non factor, now you realize it and hoping Ruto can play politics of dividing GEMA , wake up here is a rude awakening Nyoro nor Ichungwa can sway GEMA , if Uhuru who was a President couldnt what about these mere MPs.
GEMA politics is all about economics  the hustla revolution , Ruto needs to fix that and he will be in good hands .


Can Ruto oust Gachagua..if he wants..it must be done now...

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Re: Upgrading ndidi nyoro..downgrading Gachagua
« Reply #11 on: October 15, 2023, 10:36:25 AM »

A luo masquadaring as a GEMA is just plain stupid .
Arent you proud of your roots and identity , talk for Luo like a real Luo

How will you downgrade him?

How will you manage the competition amongst ndindi ichungwa & kindiki?

What does being a Luo got to do with my opinion?

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Re: Upgrading ndidi nyoro..downgrading Gachagua
« Reply #12 on: October 15, 2023, 10:40:58 AM »

A luo masquadaring as a GEMA is just plain stupid .
Arent you proud of your roots and identity , talk for Luo like a real Luo

How will you downgrade him?

How will you manage the competition amongst ndindi ichungwa & kindiki?

What does being a Luo got to do with my opinion?

Yes am a luo.Can you stick to the subject matter?

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Re: Upgrading ndidi nyoro..downgrading Gachagua
« Reply #13 on: October 15, 2023, 11:32:02 AM »
Very funny.
You know nothing about political punditry.
Most of time you cannot seperate what you want and what will happen.
You're incapable of Objective Analysis - leave alone DISPASSIONATE analysis.
You need to remove yourself, your personal or communal needs, and analyse things as they are.

I will ingore silly attempts to re-write history of who predicted Gachagua being DPORK - I DID - same with Kiunjuri.

Ruto controls GEMA. He runs the whole of it. He will not allow Gachagua or Uhuru or Mungiki any space to comeback.
Ruto has serious players in all GEMA corners.
Those will gate keep and crash any opposition.

Right now if Gachagua call for meeting - he will be lucky to get Wamuchomba and Nyeri governor to attend :). The rest will rush to statehouse.

Political toddler versus a GIANT.

Again stop comparing Ruto the ultimate political chessmaster with silly druken boy like Uhuru or lazy Kibaki.

Ruto has two options with Gachagua - if he refuses to shape up and go slow on his petty politics.

Ruto can keep him and ignore him - like Uhuru did to Ruto. That will be problematic.

Ruto can decide to finish him now - and he will be finished by fellow GEMA - remember he got only 2 votes when everyone wanted Kindiki. Ruto will allow AZIMIO and Mt kenya MPs to impeach him.

Then replace him with either Ndidi or Ichungwa or Kindiki.

Of course Ruto wont move now - but in 1 or 2 yrs - when he has won over Azimio zones.

Already ODM and Raila are down and out - Ruto is fumigating ODM from all corners of kenya including Luo Nyanza.

Once Ruto has done this -  GEMA even if they all go to opposition - will lose 2027 and  forever.


Look at my posts , i predicted about Kiunjuri and Gachagua years before you started singing the same song .
The reason is simple because I am a legitimate GEMA.
I told you long before just after the elections Gachagua is not a factor in GEMA politics but you were praising him coz he was defending Ruto and singing Baba Mama to Ruto.
Im telling you GEMA moves different but you think Nyoro can control them .
Nop Ruto will get a rude awakening he might even awaken the GEMA voters who never went to the poll in 2022 just to discipline him for mismanaging the economy . Ask Uhuru what happened to him in 2002 and 2022 .
Unlike Nyanza and RV GEMA voters are sheeps they make a leader not the other way round . In 2013 they decided its Uhuru in 2022 they decided its Ruto . They might as well decide its Mlevi Kuria and indeed he will become their leader if the so wish .

Initially Ruto was to run with Mwangi Kiunjuri - he messed up and I downgraded him.
I upgraded Gachagua - when all of you were shouting - no way - then Ruto picked him.
Now I see that Gachagua has fallen off the rails - and Ruto might replace him.
He will be impeached - because he is very vulnerable - unless he changes - and realize Ruto yuko level ingine - he should jump when told to jump.

What made him DPORK - will not keep him DPORK. Ruto needed a warrior against Uhuru and dynasties - Gachagua was the warrior and job is DONE. Now Ruto is spreading his wings - Gachagua is making it hard with his silly childish politics.

Most likely Ndidi Nyoro will replace him.


Ruto is already in a big mess , No need of digging the hole further.
As majority as saying ro a kibaki , fix economy and get you second term.

Weeks ago you were number one supporter on Gachagua when we were telling you he is a non factor, now you realize it and hoping Ruto can play politics of dividing GEMA , wake up here is a rude awakening Nyoro nor Ichungwa can sway GEMA , if Uhuru who was a President couldnt what about these mere MPs.
GEMA politics is all about economics  the hustla revolution , Ruto needs to fix that and he will be in good hands .


Can Ruto oust Gachagua..if he wants..it must be done now...