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Office of the First daughter
« on: December 14, 2022, 09:02:22 AM »
https://www.citizen.digital/news/charlene-rutos-office-of-the-first-daughter-sparks-online-debate-n311098

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Re: Office of the First daughter
« Reply #1 on: December 14, 2022, 09:09:37 AM »
And absolute power corrupts completely. BBI loading and coming back. @Georgesoros will again ask why we just can't include this office into the Katiba ....

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Re: Office of the First daughter
« Reply #2 on: December 14, 2022, 10:31:18 AM »
Ujinga mwingi.
The beauty of it all, everything comes to an end.

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Re: Office of the First daughter
« Reply #3 on: December 14, 2022, 11:42:41 AM »
I don't see problem..office of 1st lady didn't exist in law..let her use her position as president daughter..Uhuru daughter did the same.As long as she doing public good shida Iko wapi...she can get donations to engage in charity instead of drinking herself silly.

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Re: Office of the First daughter
« Reply #5 on: December 14, 2022, 12:19:40 PM »
You are wrong. Kenya's 1st Lady gets monthly payments and an office which are funded through public coffers. Lucy Kibaki was the first case.

Ruto's kids should look for something else to do but not parade themselves in public offices as the have no official role to play. if it work for public good, let it be done on private matters and not using public coffers.

I don't see problem..office of 1st lady didn't exist in law..let her use her position as president daughter..Uhuru daughter did the same.As long as she doing public good shida Iko wapi...she can get donations to engage in charity instead of drinking herself silly.

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Re: Office of the First daughter
« Reply #6 on: December 14, 2022, 12:24:12 PM »
https://www.tuko.co.ke/politics/472546-william-rutos-7-children-jobs-school-personal-life/

So June Ruto is older than Charlene Ruto-?I think they are step sisters..because this should be the office of the second born daughter..Who is Charlene Ruto- mother?One of the things I hear (Not verified) Rachel Ruto is not Nick Ruto mother?

Anyway,It's none of my business...that said...If she is clever she should make lots of money brokering GOK deals.

But one thing,She is a liar who is embezzling GOK funds and will be prosecuted in future by President Babu Owino for not just embezzling funds but uttering false pretense that she influence GOK tenders.

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Re: Office of the First daughter
« Reply #7 on: December 14, 2022, 01:11:31 PM »
which law gives power to first lady or husband? Ruto kids are entitled to some benefits including security - and right to stay in statehouse.

She is free to create her own office of the president daughter - and use it the way she wants.

You are wrong. Kenya's 1st Lady gets monthly payments and an office which are funded through public coffers. Lucy Kibaki was the first case.

Ruto's kids should look for something else to do but not parade themselves in public offices as the have no official role to play. if it work for public good, let it be done on private matters and not using public coffers.


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Re: Office of the First daughter
« Reply #8 on: December 14, 2022, 01:13:33 PM »
Wacha bhangi - eti president Babu owino :). That has already been clipped and is now teaching maths online. Couldnt even get through ODM in parliament comittees.
https://www.tuko.co.ke/politics/472546-william-rutos-7-children-jobs-school-personal-life/

So June Ruto is older than Charlene Ruto-?I think they are step sisters..because this should be the office of the second born daughter..Who is Charlene Ruto- mother?One of the things I hear (Not verified) Rachel Ruto is not Nick Ruto mother?

Anyway,It's none of my business...that said...If she is clever she should make lots of money brokering GOK deals.

But one thing,She is a liar who is embezzling GOK funds and will be prosecuted in future by President Babu Owino for not just embezzling funds but uttering false pretense that she influence GOK tenders.


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Re: Office of the First daughter
« Reply #9 on: December 14, 2022, 01:20:37 PM »
She should shoulder on - the haters will hate.

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Re: Office of the First daughter
« Reply #10 on: December 14, 2022, 02:23:35 PM »
Who mentioned power here? The president's children are not entitled to any benefits apart from security. The lady should relax and stop missuing her status. She can name her foundation anything, but not missuse anything to sound official. There is nothing like 1st Daughter.

She is not free to create her own office of the president's daughter. Who allocates funds to that office? Be relistic and stick to facts.

which law gives power to first lady or husband? Ruto kids are entitled to some benefits including security - and right to stay in statehouse.

She is free to create her own office of the president daughter - and use it the way she wants.

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Re: Office of the First daughter
« Reply #11 on: December 14, 2022, 03:12:08 PM »
Sioni shida. Unless and until she touches gov money or abuse power. She is first family. She is first daughter. She is free to use her position of privellege for social good. No difference with Ruto or Riggy W using their offices.

THERE IS NO LAW FOR FIRST LADY>

We only have a problem if like Meru - she start sitting in gov meetings -

Who mentioned power here? The president's children are not entitled to any benefits apart from security. The lady should relax and stop missuing her status. She can name her foundation anything, but not missuse anything to sound official. There is nothing like 1st Daughter.

She is not free to create her own office of the president's daughter. Who allocates funds to that office? Be relistic and stick to facts.

which law gives power to first lady or husband? Ruto kids are entitled to some benefits including security - and right to stay in statehouse.

She is free to create her own office of the president daughter - and use it the way she wants.

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Re: Office of the First daughter
« Reply #12 on: December 14, 2022, 08:12:58 PM »
Sioni shida. Unless and until she touches gov money or abuse power. She is first family. She is first daughter. She is free to use her position of privellege for social good. No difference with Ruto or Riggy W using their offices.

THERE IS NO LAW FOR FIRST LADY>

We only have a problem if like Meru - she start sitting in gov meetings -

Who mentioned power here? The president's children are not entitled to any benefits apart from security. The lady should relax and stop missuing her status. She can name her foundation anything, but not missuse anything to sound official. There is nothing like 1st Daughter.

She is not free to create her own office of the president's daughter. Who allocates funds to that office? Be relistic and stick to facts.

which law gives power to first lady or husband? Ruto kids are entitled to some benefits including security - and right to stay in statehouse.

She is free to create her own office of the president daughter - and use it the way she wants.

It's okay.

I think Charlene should tell us who funds her activities and for avoidance of doubt allow independent forensic audits of her income source and spending activities.

Unless otherwise we can assume she is either being funded by government money or criminal activities.

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Re: Office of the First daughter
« Reply #13 on: December 15, 2022, 01:13:32 AM »
They receive donation and give out charity. The problem starts when like Gideon Moi and philp they start using it for corruption. Fidel did the same under Raila. Uhuru sons and daughters never engaged in anything of that.

She is definitely walking a fine line - and Ruto has to set the boundaries for her. She should not receive gifts or donations so she can lobby or push for tenders or jobs.

Perfectly in order for her to use her privileged position to push for agenda she believes in - as long as it charity/ngo type.

It's okay.

I think Charlene should tell us who funds her activities and for avoidance of doubt allow independent forensic audits of her income source and spending activities.

Unless otherwise we can assume she is either being funded by government money or criminal activities.

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Re: Office of the First daughter
« Reply #14 on: December 15, 2022, 02:06:26 AM »
If whatever the girl is doing is for the good to the community and society what's the problem? Ofcourse the president kids have influence and if they can be able to harness that and champion something helpful more power to them. I hope the girl starts opening coding academies all over kenya and help millions escape poverty. That would be something.