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Offline sema

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The Poverty in Kilifi
« on: October 20, 2022, 05:52:24 PM »
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I was in Kilifi for 7 days... Toured almost every corner of that county. I don't want to cause any backlash but if you visit the interior of Kilifi, you will thank God for the life you have anywhere else. Most of them live by grace! No hope!

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We drove through Kilifi today, great sceneries but let me tell you Maina, Kilifi is the real definition of POVERTY. Almost the whole County smells of poverty and devastation. Zero development. Zero benefits from devolution. Locals blame witchcraft but I think it is ignorance.

Why was Amason Kingi receiving so much praise? Wasn't he the governor of Kilifi for a good 10 years? Doesn't seem to have done much there at all.

If you grew up in Nairobi, you don't really think about other parts of Kenya or even see them.  My trips to Kilifi /mombasa were confined to 5 star hotels, but if you live in middle class Nairobi (like many of these social media influencers now do -- living in apartments in Kilimani and Kileleshwa and talking about halloween costumes and waiting for their influencer of the year awards you forget that at it's core, kenya remains a devastatingly poor country.

Ruto has his work cut out for him and the first thing is to get rid of this extreme poverty and focus on the very basics like most of the world has done (when you travel you realize that most of the world's populations have access to water & in many cases clean water and food (& 3 meals a day) Africans are the only one's that still haven't figured out how to get the basics.

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Re: The Poverty in Kilifi
« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2022, 07:01:36 PM »
The reality is kenya 1/3 of it is okay - 2/3 of it wilderness -

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Re: The Poverty in Kilifi
« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2022, 10:40:10 PM »
this is the reality in most of kenya. the place is one hell hole.

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Re: The Poverty in Kilifi
« Reply #3 on: October 21, 2022, 02:41:56 AM »
this is the reality in most of kenya. the place is one hell hole.

The money seems to be confined to Nairobi and let me even go further (Greater Westlands and maybe some parts of central and the rift valley) and that appears to be it. Why were people praising Amason Kingi? He appears to have been a complete disaster for kilifi or was the poverty just too much?

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Re: The Poverty in Kilifi
« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2022, 09:56:57 AM »
Kenya is a damm poor country. I recall once going to Muranga for a friend's funeral. I was shocked at the state of poverty and the simplistic life deep in Muranga. Muranga is still realtively rich compared to other parts of Kenya, but really we have to pull up our socks. Basic needs in life like water are a dream there. The topography of the land makes matters even worse. The roads were a complete mess.

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Re: The Poverty in Kilifi
« Reply #5 on: October 21, 2022, 10:04:34 AM »
Yes we are generally poor; but imagine rest of africa is even worse;
Kenya is a damm poor country. I recall once going to Muranga for a friend's funeral. I was shocked at the state of poverty and the simplistic life deep in Muranga. Muranga is still realtively rich compared to other parts of Kenya, but really we have to pull up our socks. Basic needs in life like water are a dream there. The topography of the land makes matters even worse. The roads were a complete mess.

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Re: The Poverty in Kilifi
« Reply #6 on: October 21, 2022, 10:09:41 AM »
The gap between the rich and poor in Kenya is enormous. A poor person in Kenya is just a spoor as another in most African countries. Wha makes Kenya richer is the concentration of capital around Nairobi and other major cities. Otherwise the countryside is just like any other African country.

Yes we are generally poor; but imagine rest of africa is even worse;

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Re: The Poverty in Kilifi
« Reply #7 on: October 21, 2022, 10:18:01 AM »
Not really - most kenya countryside now have electricity, running water, cable tv and all that. In some places - I see people living middle class life - at least some - have cars, take their kids to private school, eat well, and own few assets. This I see in my village..I'd say 10-20% are comfortable. Generally I dont see that many mud houses - most people now have modern houses with electricity and all the life comforts.

Jubilee did well with rural paved roads, electricities and counties have done a good job in last mile murram roads.

I wish they can do more on piped water - and turn those murram roads into single lane low seal tarmac road like you see in Asia - India/china.

The gap between the rich and poor in Kenya is enormous. A poor person in Kenya is just a spoor as another in most African countries. Wha makes Kenya richer is the concentration of capital around Nairobi and other major cities. Otherwise the countryside is just like any other African country.

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Re: The Poverty in Kilifi
« Reply #8 on: October 21, 2022, 04:57:13 PM »
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most kenya countryside now have electricity, running water, cable tv

really pundit? cable tv? lol

This is not true. People in Nairobi are complaining that they don't have water. Their apartments are filled with buckets of water when they can get it or the water tankers are only coming 2 times in a week. Places like Langata and even Karen have no water, but in Karen many people can afford boreholes.

So, I Imagine that most people in Nairobi are just walking around stinking. In other countries that I've traveled to (even in the Caribbean) they have resolved these basic issues of food and water, but kenyans on social media want to about silicon savannah and other hollywood myth's while a majority of the population doesn't have these basics. Once you travel outside of Africa, you start to notice these basic differences.

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Re: The Poverty in Kilifi
« Reply #9 on: October 21, 2022, 05:07:22 PM »
One can conflate poverty in the Coast. Without electricity a house with holes and makuti acts as nature AC.

With a palm tree you have food, drink, alcohol, housing material and firewood. Just stroll to beach and pick some cheap fish.

Just like rural poverty versus urban poverty. In rural areas you have own house, chicken, goats and cows but no liquidity. In urban slums you get a few hundreds per day, have a TV but lives hand to mouth. The villager will easily pay fees while urban slum person will strugle juggling fees and rent.
Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one ~ Thomas Paine

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Re: The Poverty in Kilifi
« Reply #10 on: October 21, 2022, 05:15:29 PM »
Cable TV= GoTV - that is a lot in kenya - electricity coverage is good - more than 50% - with solar - about 75%.
I am talking about my village.
Many people live comfortable life.
Tea pickers live horrible life.
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most kenya countryside now have electricity, running water, cable tv

really pundit? cable tv? lol

This is not true. People in Nairobi are complaining that they don't have water. Their apartments are filled with buckets of water when they can get it or the water tankers are only coming 2 times in a week. Places like Langata and even Karen have no water, but in Karen many people can afford boreholes.

So, I Imagine that most people in Nairobi are just walking around stinking. In other countries that I've traveled to (even in the Caribbean) they have resolved these basic issues of food and water, but kenyans on social media want to about silicon savannah and other hollywood myth's while a majority of the population doesn't have these basics. Once you travel outside of Africa, you start to notice these basic differences.

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Re: The Poverty in Kilifi
« Reply #11 on: October 23, 2022, 09:12:30 AM »
Give a man shelter, food ,drink and a woman he will be always content,Pwani like western live with this slogan to the fullest,but at end of day even if you're a millionaire in london or tokyo,the gratification one can get is the same,food,drink and women,thats where most of a man money goes