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Offline RV Pundit

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Yaani all the BBI effort is null and void
« on: August 20, 2021, 07:04:51 PM »
Ruto was smart enough not to waste his time with it;

Just let the nonsense run it course

And go to judiciary at tail end

The million-dollar question is Uhuru.

Raila 4yrs is totally wasted - I told him to get something from Uhuru - he got BBI

Now he is negotiating with Uhuru - who cannot win an MCA seat in Ichaweri today :)

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Re: Yaani all the BBI effort is null and void
« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2021, 07:17:09 PM »



Initially you wanted Ruto to mount an opposition about it. You see....


Ruto was smart enough not to waste his time with it;

Just let the nonsense run it course

And go to judiciary at tail end

The million-dollar question is Uhuru.

Raila 4yrs is totally wasted - I told him to get something from Uhuru - he got BBI

Now he is negotiating with Uhuru - who cannot win an MCA seat in Ichaweri today :)

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Re: Yaani all the BBI effort is null and void
« Reply #2 on: August 20, 2021, 07:38:57 PM »
I recall saying Ruto should use legal route to fight it. I dont delete my thread. Search and let me know

For you - Ruto should have DONE nothing.

I said we should fight it legally - and I am glad we have won.

Initially you wanted Ruto to mount an opposition about it. You see....

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Re: Yaani all the BBI effort is null and void
« Reply #3 on: August 20, 2021, 09:38:15 PM »
Ruto was smart enough not to waste his time with it;

Just let the nonsense run it course

And go to judiciary at tail end

The million-dollar question is Uhuru.

Raila 4yrs is totally wasted - I told him to get something from Uhuru - he got BBI

Now he is negotiating with Uhuru - who cannot win an MCA seat in Ichaweri today :)
2 Timothy 2:4  No man that warreth entangleth himself with the affairs of this life; that he may please him who hath chosen him to be a soldier.

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Re: Yaani all the BBI effort is null and void
« Reply #4 on: August 21, 2021, 01:47:11 AM »
Ruto read it as an attempt by Uhuru to throw the ladder down after winning pork - by bringing in positions that OKOA Kenya wanted - to allow weak-kneed candidates -to easily form a coalition - by having 5 or 6 positions - to go through the 50 percent threshold.

But no extra power was going to be created or destroyed by BBI. The total power remains - all key positions in Kenya - and total money to be stolen (no 1 reason these politicians are salivating at politics) - remain - whatever gov can tax and borrow.

If people truly want to share power in 6 or 10 ways - all they need is goodwill.

There is nothing any constitution will do to share power - we have seen Ruto in the first term as powerful co-president - and in the second term very useless - at least VP of old times - was also a minister - normally of home affairs or foreign affairs.

Matiangi is effectively a PM - through an executive order. Nothing stop Uhuru from appointing Raila a chief minister through executive order. Or even telling the minister to report to Raila in quasi arrangement.

Power-sharing is all about TRUST AND GOODWILL from PORK. Anything else will create too many centers of power and conflict  - if PM was to disagree with PORK - so ultimately all executive power rest on PORK - the constitution has reduced that by creating independent bodies, judiciary and parliament.


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Re: Yaani all the BBI effort is null and void
« Reply #5 on: August 21, 2021, 02:05:59 AM »
What an egg on Uhuru / Raila Face.

Ruto should take this and run with it...Run good commercials on how BBI was a waste of time and a waste of national resources, and emphasis on Raila's historic indiscretions that always culminate into this kind of absolute indefensible fiascos from '82 - everything the guys touches turns out to be an 'sewer explosion'.

About our blue eye boy Jayden, all I can say is, for him to invest so much on this BBI sht, labda alirongwa na baba Lol - he's turned out to have very worrying lapse of judgement. MKM priests and elders need to arrange a ceremony to exorcise the spell that's bound him...tukemee mashetani.

RIP baby BBI - you should have been aborted you mongoloid baby.

One more thing, ...Ati nobody can stop Reggae...Ngai!   Somebody tell 'em Bangi na pombe na uganga na uchawil don't make sound policy.   

Ruto was smart enough not to waste his time with it;

Just let the nonsense run it course

And go to judiciary at tail end

The million-dollar question is Uhuru.

Raila 4yrs is totally wasted - I told him to get something from Uhuru - he got BBI

Now he is negotiating with Uhuru - who cannot win an MCA seat in Ichaweri today :)

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Re: Yaani all the BBI effort is null and void
« Reply #6 on: August 21, 2021, 02:10:33 AM »
The Uhuru I know is very brilliant and strategic - lazy and drunk yes but stupid no. This to me remains unforced errors almost deliberately designed to fail. 20 errors when he has gov and private laywers of highest repute? Moi was std 8 dropout and would never commit two errors. 20 errors!

Uhuru has achieved his objective - taken 50 percent coalition cake from Ruto and kept Raila engaged in the fatally flawed process - for 4yrs! every time he kept pushing - and every time Raila kept saying the deadline is Jan 2020 - then June 2020 - then Sept 2021 - uhuru found a way to extend BBI thing. Introducing an ombudsman for example was deliberate to kill BBI in the judiciary.

Uhuru today is celebrating - he has gotten off the hook in personal responsibility - and Raila has spent 4 yrs bowing down to him waiting for BBI to conclude.NASA love Uhuru for BBI.

Will Raila wake up - or he will remain waiting for Uhuru to use his SYSTEM and DEEP STATE to railroad OKA to back him. That is new game in town:
The Mandela moment :)

The last thing Uhuru will do is to reconcile with Ruto - knowing he is strongest candidate - get back Jubilee love - and leave NASA confused - and retire to build Northland city - with his loot.

Lesson for Naive Raila; When the deal is too good think twice; when somebody has spent his entire lifetime opposing you certainly calls you my brother; be very afraid;

In Kalenjin there are two sayings - the monkey doesn't forget how to jump from branches and the leopard spots don't disappear. Uhuru remains Uhuru. Be very careful.

Unless there is really compelling reason - like civil war - Uhuru will not simply hand over power to Raila : HOW NOW? What changed?
Again ask yourself what is the REAL BEEF with Ruto? If you cannot tell? It probably doesn't exist. Dont believe crap like ohoo Ruto is corrupt - Uhuru entire family is super corrupt. Do not invent stories that Ruto maybe wanted to impeach Uhuru or kill him or slept with uhuru wife :) how NOW?

Raila should ask Uhuru for the reason why they fell out with Ruto - and should rule out corruption - every politician in kenya is corrupt. I am 100 percent sure there are many joint corrupt enterprise btw uhuru and ruto...I am sure there are times Uhuru has called Ruto to say make sure I get that contract. This date back to 2001 - when 3 - Gideon, Uhuru and Ruto - were powerful blue-eyed boys of Moi having supplanted Biwott-Saitoti. Ask Citizen Macharia what Uhuru told him and did on his Royal Credit Card,madhu paper and citizen tv thing. The three in those 2 yrs after edging Biwott made lots of money...Gideon especially

Obviously invest in intelligence coz you won't get a straight answer.

What an egg on Uhuru / Raila Face.

Ruto should take this and run with it...Run good commercials on how BBI was a waste of time and a waste of national resources, and emphasis on Raila's historic indiscretions that always culminate into this kind of absolute indefensible fiascos from '82 - everything the guys touches turns out to be an 'sewer explosion'.

About our blue eye boy Jayden, all I can say is, for him to invest so much on this BBI sht, labda alirongwa na baba Lol - he's turned out to have very worrying lapse of judgement. MKM priests and elders need to arrange a ceremony to exorcise the spell that's bound him...tukemee mashetani.

RIP baby BBI - you should have been aborted you mongoloid baby.

One more thing, ...Ati nobody can stop Reggae...Ngai!   Somebody tell 'em Bangi na pombe na uganga na uchawil don't make sound policy.