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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: George Lamming on October 13, 2014, 12:33:42 AM

Title: Omollo, Gava operates from Kisumu next two days
Post by: George Lamming on October 13, 2014, 12:33:42 AM
 8) Good business for the region! Plus all the goodies Muthamaki will leave for his good people of central Nyanza.
Hope you appreciate the goodwill! . I told you  we are not bad people.  8)
Title: Re: Omollo, Gava operates from Kisumu next two days
Post by: Omollo on October 13, 2014, 01:04:50 PM
8) Good business for the region! Plus all the goodies Muthamaki will leave for his good people of central Nyanza.
Hope you appreciate the goodwill! . I told you  we are not bad people.  8)
Georgi

TNA should understand a simple fact: Human beings and especially the Kenyan lot are similar in every way. For years they have assumed the worst about Luos. Uhuru will come, his handlers will look around for "defectors" and parade them. They will get their handouts, some will be promised jobs, businesses and the Planent Jupiter! He will be happy and the conmen will be happy. He will leave and life will go on as usual. The next election will come and all those people will vote against GEMA.

Choose your town - Kakamega, Mombasa, etc. It's the same game over and over. In the past you would be burned by the IPK youth for taking cash at State House Mombasa. They had a more elaborate spying ring than the NIS. So bribes could be collected from Sajjad and Nassir. These days even former IPK operatives and MRC openly go to collect.

The bottom line, if Uhuru is intent on running a corrupt nation, there are millions ready to pander to him. He will succeed. The problem is that he is eroding principles and values of what a good nation should be without earning anything he can show for. It is cheaper to stop tribal appointments and show Kenyans that he is willing to work with all people. Napoleone discarded old prejudices against the poor in the army and instituted the principle of "Career is open to talent", regardless of your background. He was loved and his reforms  opened up the entire Europe and can still be felt today.
Title: Re: Omollo, Gava operates from Kisumu next two days
Post by: Logan on October 14, 2014, 04:23:55 AM
Quote from: Logan

The much hyped President Uhuru trip to Port Florence may not happen this week after all. :)

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The presidency is reported to have postponed the trip to next week as government shops for serious projects to launch after a report revealed the area has no significant national government activity going on. Uhuru is reported to be furious about the revelation.

The trip to Kisumu, where the President was also expected to chair a cabinet meeting at Kisumu State Lodge, is steeped in political undertones with the region remaining indifferent to it. :oops:

“People are neither excited nor concerned about it. We hear he is coming and can only wait to see,” responded a youth in Kondele, one of Kisumu’s low income neighbourhoods.

Uhuru returns to Nyanza after the infamous Migori trip where residents shouted down area governor Okoth Obado in his presence, an act that several quarters roundly condemned as ‘disrespect to the head of state’, and ‘political intolerance’.

Residents of Nyanza are gearing for a referendum called by CORD leader Raila Odinga with murmurs that the President is trying to pacify the region ahead of the crucial vote.

For now, it is a wait-and-see if the trip will materialize.
Title: Re: Omollo, Gava operates from Kisumu next two days
Post by: RV Pundit on October 14, 2014, 07:31:14 AM
That is tragic. Eti no significant national project going on. That is probably true everywhere in kenya except very few lucky areas. And UhuRuto are busy undermining devolution..the only silver lining in rural kenya development wise.
Title: Re: Omollo, Gava operates from Kisumu next two days
Post by: Omollo on October 14, 2014, 11:54:31 AM
Pundit

Which is why I don't agree the 400 Billion propaganda would work. The thing about money is that once you deny you have no money and then pull out 400 Billion, there is no way you can convince anybody you can't pull out a Trillion. I think OKOA and PM have a chance to use this admission to prove that TNA has money to hide.

I also don't know who is doing propaganda for them. They should stop talking about "Jubilee" like last year! When you mention Jubilee then you lock out RV. Another mistake is this constant barking at Ruto by RAO. He should either shut up and target TNA or risk building Uhuru by talking about him. Being mentioned by RAO over the last 4 weeks on the lost money thing revived WSR. That was a mistake. So OKOA/PM should simply say "Wametoa 400 bado 700 - Ongeza Moto",
Title: Re: Omollo, Gava operates from Kisumu next two days
Post by: RV Pundit on October 14, 2014, 01:25:13 PM
Yes we have to keep demanding more and more..ultimately we want a situation where national gov retain 20% or 15%...for truly national gov services that cannot be devolved...military, foreign affairs and maybe national emergencies,national roads,airports, ports and highways..

Then rest..800B it would be seem..should be divided into 47 and given out for each county to develop, pay for it's nurse, doctors, teachers, county police,county roads, county water, county etc and etc...

In short...we have to go full federalism or MAJIMBO...eventually.

Yesterday i was hearing those Kass diaspora guys talking about GALANA project..and wondering how that will benefit them [heck it will harm RV farmers]..you have national gov...spending maybe 100B on Galana 1M acre....who will it benefit? Maybe the people around Galana, maybe brokers, maybe landlords....or well maybe the entire nation if they bring down cost of maize or sugar...

But it would have made sense for each county to be given 2B..to start their own small irrigation schemes.


Pundit

Which is why I don't agree the 400 Billion propaganda would work. The thing about money is that once you deny you have no money and then pull out 400 Billion, there is no way you can convince anybody you can't pull out a Trillion. I think OKOA and PM have a chance to use this admission to prove that TNA has money to hide.

I also don't know who is doing propaganda for them. They should stop talking about "Jubilee" like last year! When you mention Jubilee then you lock out RV. Another mistake is this constant barking at Ruto by RAO. He should either shut up and target TNA or risk building Uhuru by talking about him. Being mentioned by RAO over the last 4 weeks on the lost money thing revived WSR. That was a mistake. So OKOA/PM should simply say "Wametoa 400 bado 700 - Ongeza Moto",
Title: Re: Omollo, Gava operates from Kisumu next two days
Post by: Omollo on October 14, 2014, 02:07:45 PM
Galana or any other regionally based project should be developed under the aegis of the local county. They can secure loans and other forms of credit making the county government liable with the asset forming the collateral. Income from such an investment should go directly to the county and shall not be shared with others - at least for a few decades
Title: Re: Omollo, Gava operates from Kisumu next two days
Post by: RV Pundit on October 14, 2014, 02:49:42 PM
Precisely. National Gov should concentrated on truly national projects. I can only think about inter-county roads and railway..sort of the us's interstate. Whatever the national gov does know..it goes to favour someone and disadvantage another..if national gov is build 5B chemusus dam in Koitabek baringo...that ultimately benefit Baringo people...that is not going to be fair to people of mandera.

The solution is simple...devolve...so you have fairness all over.  Just leave the gov maintain major roads, railways, ports and such issues that are impossible to devolve.

Galana or any other regionally based project should be developed under the aegis of the local county. They can secure loans and other forms of credit making the county government liable with the asset forming the collateral. Income from such an investment should go directly to the county and shall not be shared with others - at least for a few decades
Title: Re: Omollo, Gava operates from Kisumu next two days
Post by: Logan on October 14, 2014, 05:01:59 PM
Tragic indeed..see what the so-called eye sore "kisumu state lodge" looks like..he saw this as proposed cabinet meeting site and responded there's no way he can be caught sitting in that rugged pos... :(

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More shocking revelations of government neglect of Luo Nyanza as it now emerges that Kisumu State lodge is not safe for government meetings.

The facility itself is in a forgotten neighbourhood with part of the fence being sing’enge – barbed wire.

No government activity has gone on in that facility, remaining, for over 40 years, neglected just as the region it is situated in. When news first filtered in the lakeside city that the President would be chairing a full cabinet meeting at the state house, or lodge, many residents laughed off the whole thing, asking, bemused, what the whole cabinet will sit on.

“Are there even chairs in that gumba?” a resident asked. ”Gumba” is the Luo word for a ghost house, or home, where people no longer live in. It can be because the occupants passed on or moved far away.

And yet, sadly, it is true that Kisumu state lodge is  ghost house. Interestingly, in a city that has endured almost half a century of opposition to mindless dictatorships, no one has ever bothered to invade the state facility.


 
“People don’t remember that house. Just like the government forgot about our existence here, we also forgot about the presence of the government here,” added Mama Anyango, selling her fish in Kibuye Market.

When news first filtered that Uhuru would address a cabinet at the lodge, a contingent of Kodiaga prisoners were assembled to clear the grass and bring in furniture as well as renovate the dilapidated main building.

Because the lodge, just like the projects the president were to launch are not yet ready, the trip has been postponed.


That is tragic. Eti no significant national project going on. That is probably true everywhere in kenya except very few lucky areas. And UhuRuto are busy undermining devolution..the only silver lining in rural kenya development wise.
Title: Re: Omollo, Gava operates from Kisumu next two days
Post by: RV Pundit on October 14, 2014, 05:14:58 PM
UhuRuto should change that at least. That is serious indictment of national gov neglect. Kibaki revived Sagana lodge. Last time i saw Kitale state lodge it had been ripped apart and land stolen. Only Nairobi,Nakuru, Mombasa and Sagana ..and maybe Kakamega state lodges are worth being referred as so.

But do you we really need all those lodges? County commissioner should stay in those lodges...and leave the guest house for Uhuru whenever he checks in.