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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: RV Pundit on April 30, 2021, 11:41:42 AM
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Then NA and Senate will have to meet to harmonize their amendments and thinking.
Look like Raila didn't like UHURU last minute unilateral ammendments - and is blowing hot and cold - using senators
https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2021-04-30-senators-threaten-to-defy-uhuru-and-raila-amend-bbi-bill/
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They will be blocked by Lusaka and Muturi. And which "last-minute amendments" is Raila unhappy with? It simple: Gema get the goodies as Raila-NASA split the animal. Greedy Ruto winds up high and dry.
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Let them amend delete but it will be law of the land
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Let them amend delete but it will be law of the land
They have no power to amend popular initiative - just make noise and pass/reject. Speakers are Uhuru poodles so it waste of time. Pundit is usual desperation - mara senators, mara high court will kill BBI. Mark-timing to 2022 combo.
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Kondele brain, so why are senators unhappy? It appears even within GEMA - those who missed out - like Nyeri or Muranga are unhappy. RV we are happy - Bomet for example got 2 and kericho one. Nakuru 5. Kiambu 5. Nairobi 12. Coast did well.
Entire Luo Nyanza got 3...it appears Luos will sacrifice pretty much everything ....in hope Uhuru will endorse Raila. When that doesn't happen. PREMIUM TEARS FOR MANY YEARS.
Kondele brain kweli.
Get a brain transplant.
They will be blocked by Lusaka and Muturi. And which "last-minute amendments" is Raila unhappy with? It simple: Gema get the goodies as Raila-NASA split the animal. Greedy Ruto winds up high and dry.
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The court is our last hope otherwise Yes BBI IS TOO TOXIC for those of us who love Kenya. Politics will come and go - but I want nothing less than independent judiciary - proper separation of power (not hybrid nonsense where Mps are ministers) - and all that nonsense in BBI.
Remove the toxic parts - no problem with PM/DPM with CS being ex-officio members of parliament - no problem with 35% to counties - BIG problem with hybrid mongrel that takes us back to 90s. BIG PROBLEM WITH POSSIBILTY OF 180 Nominated WOMAN MPS to make 600 strong NA.
As for you - you spend 3yrs shouting parliamentary - but now anything Raila or uhuru is gospel.
why did you even go to SCHOOL? You're basically AN IDIOT.
BBI basically undo 2010 - and takes us back to MONGREL WE HAD. You want us to cheer this retrogression. In the name of stop Ruto movement. What if Ruto dies today in helicopter crash
Constitution 2010 is very progressive document - just need fixing of small issues that NO identified in 2010
1) More protection of property rights
2) More devolution - 35% - and more power to devolved units.
3) Maybe add those PM things...for illusion of power sharing.
Hiyo tu.
They have no power to amend popular initiative - just make noise and pass/reject. Speakers are Uhuru poodles so it waste of time. Pundit is usual desperation - mara senators, mara high court will kill BBI. Mark-timing to 2022 combo.
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Mara un mara icj, mara Ngatia, mara ouko, mara mogioto elders
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The court is our last hope otherwise Yes BBI IS TOO TOXIC for those of us who love Kenya. Politics will come and go - but I want nothing less than independent judiciary - proper separation of power (not hybrid nonsense where Mps are ministers) - and all that nonsense in BBI.
Remove the toxic parts - no problem with PM/DPM with CS being ex-officio members of parliament - no problem with 35% to counties - BIG problem with hybrid mongrel that takes us back to 90s.
As for you - you spend 3yrs shouting parliamentary - but now anything Raila or uhuru is gospel.
why did you even go to SCHOOL? You're basically AN IDIOT.
BBI basically undo 2010 - and takes us back to MONGREL WE HAD. You want us to cheer this retrogression. In the name of stop Ruto movement. What if Ruto dies today in helicopter crash
Constitution 2010 is very progressive document - just need fixing of small issues that NO identified in 2010
1) More protection of property rights
2) More devolution - 35% - and more power to devolved units.
3) Maybe add those PM things...for illusion of power sharing.
Hiyo tu.
They have no power to amend popular initiative - just make noise and pass/reject. Speakers are Uhuru poodles so it waste of time. Pundit is usual desperation - mara senators, mara high court will kill BBI. Mark-timing to 2022 combo.
We will continue to amend the constituion within the confine of law
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You're looking to venting out - take your meds - your mental aliments cannot be cured by online trolling.
Mara un mara icj, mara Ngatia, mara ouko, mara mogioto elders
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When you finally ammend it - let us know. For now - BBI is injuncted by court who swore to protect the constitution executive messing up our constitution like they did the old one. The rest are details.
Constitution is a NEGOTIATED document.
Otherwise the majority can ammend it and say only a Kikuyu Male can be the President - and if kikuyu males are majority - they can pass it in a referendum.
There is a lot you'll hear from our courts before ANY ammendment become legal.
We will continue to amend the constituion within the confine of law
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Go help Dr Auma Ndii to craft some legal challenge. As of now bibi yao is the new chick in town. Ruto is an old wife past menopause. Hana steam.
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Say a looser who still follow Raila - the alpha looser. Wait until you amend BBI then do a victory lab. Also wait until BABA is sworn in. Don't hold your breathe.
As for man Ruto - how can 55yr old male be in menopause. The man can still sire until he get 80yrs. He has 25yrs on your old BABU.
Prepare to hate him for a very long time....maybe 30yrs! You'll be so old then :) :)
Go her Dr Auma Ndii to craft some legal challenge. As of now bibi yao is the new pride. Ruto is an old wife past menopause
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Ruto has full blown,aids. Making him useless biologically. He is worse than 70 year old woman in terms of virtility
He is one pneumonia from dying
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Aids is no longer a terminal illness.
Ruto has full blown,aids. Making him useless biologically. He is worse than 70 year old woman in terms of virtility
He is one pneumonia from dying
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Aids is no longer a terminal illness.
Ruto has full blown,aids. Making him useless biologically. He is worse than 70 year old woman in terms of virtility
He is one pneumonia from dying
It is for those that refuse to take arvs
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At least some of these senators still have some brain left - unlike Robina
https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2021-04-30-two-senators-write-to-lusaka-recommending-amendments-to-bbi-bill/
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Senate is a,retirement home. Parliament passes senate goes home
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Both have to agree. Parliament had 90 acts that Uhuru signed declared null and void for failing to involve the senator. They have 9 months to fix them. But they haven't even started.
Remember this parliament has already been declared unconstitutional - for not meeting 2/3 gender rule - and is for all reason disbanded - except Uhuru has not acted on Magara advice.
BBI haina mwanya :)
Senate is a,retirement home. Parliament passes senate goes home
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Both have to agree. Parliament had 90 acts that Uhuru signed declared null and void. They have 9 months to fix them. But they haven't even started.
Senate is a,retirement home. Parliament passes senate goes home
According to who? Ag kihara is waiting for parliamemt vote and boom it goes to referendum if need be
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If you spent your online time learning stuff here; you won't be as ignorant as when I found you in 2000. Wasted online life. You're still as ignorant as door knob.
https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2020-10-29-high-court-nullifies-23-bills-passed-by-national-assembly/
According to who? Ag kihara is waiting for parliamemt vote and boom it goes to referendum if need be
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You are a lawyer now. Kihara gave us assurance that courts cannot stop this bibi yao. You have little knowledge on all subjects because you rely on poorly written articles instead od legal experts like orengo, Kihara or former !AG Muigai. Keep on listening to that ogiek murkomen, he knows no law
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Mavoko brain just wait to be shafted after backing Uhuru since 2001 - 20 years :) Ruto has been kicked out of literally every camp he ever joined after doing all the donkey work. Meantime BBI lineup is loading. I asked you what is your fallback when BBI pass parliament and Ndii nonsense get tossed - as 2022 become Yes vs No. What does watermelon lineup look like?
Kondele brain, so why are senators unhappy? It appears even within GEMA - those who missed out - like Nyeri or Muranga are unhappy. RV we are happy - Bomet for example got 2 and kericho one. Nakuru 5. Kiambu 5. Nairobi 12. Coast did well.
Entire Luo Nyanza got 3...it appears Luos will sacrifice pretty much everything ....in hope Uhuru will endorse Raila. When that doesn't happen. PREMIUM TEARS FOR MANY YEARS.
Kondele brain kweli.
Get a brain transplant.
They will be blocked by Lusaka and Muturi. And which "last-minute amendments" is Raila unhappy with? It simple: Gema get the goodies as Raila-NASA split the animal. Greedy Ruto winds up high and dry.
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In short you are watermelon. You can always vote no.
BBI has what Kenyans really wanted in Bomas and CoE Drafts before Kilifi and Naivasha ukora. Hybrid didn't fall from the sky Kenyans wanted it through years of consultations.
The court is our last hope otherwise Yes BBI IS TOO TOXIC for those of us who love Kenya. Politics will come and go - but I want nothing less than independent judiciary - proper separation of power (not hybrid nonsense where Mps are ministers) - and all that nonsense in BBI.
Remove the toxic parts - no problem with PM/DPM with CS being ex-officio members of parliament - no problem with 35% to counties - BIG problem with hybrid mongrel that takes us back to 90s. BIG PROBLEM WITH POSSIBILTY OF 180 Nominated WOMAN MPS to make 600 strong NA.
As for you - you spend 3yrs shouting parliamentary - but now anything Raila or uhuru is gospel.
why did you even go to SCHOOL? You're basically AN IDIOT.
BBI basically undo 2010 - and takes us back to MONGREL WE HAD. You want us to cheer this retrogression. In the name of stop Ruto movement. What if Ruto dies today in helicopter crash
Constitution 2010 is very progressive document - just need fixing of small issues that NO identified in 2010
1) More protection of property rights
2) More devolution - 35% - and more power to devolved units.
3) Maybe add those PM things...for illusion of power sharing.
Hiyo tu.
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Politician want hybrid; Not kenyans; Grow some brain.
FINAL COE - Kenyans wanted either Presidential or Parliamentary - otherwise what was purpose of changing 2010 constriction which was a mongrel? USE YOUR LITTLE BRAINS.
https://katibaculturalrights.files.wordpress.com/2016/04/coe_final_report-2.pdf
Considerations that emerged from Kenya’s constitutional history made the choice of system
difficult:
a) Consultations undertaken by the Committee prior to the decision of the PSC to
introduce a presidential system showed that the country was polarised between
choosing either a presidential or a parliamentary system of government.
b) People were almost unanimous in demanding that a president should be
directly elected and that the presidency should have limited powers.
c) There was a strong sentiment in favour of a Prime Minister, in addition to an
elected President, the latter being a Member of Parliament with majority
support in Parliament.
d) There was less clarity on the relationship and division of powers between a
President and a Prime Minister. Who should bear executive power, how much
power should the President have, what system of accountability would work
best?
In short you are watermelon. You can always vote no.
BBI has what Kenyans really wanted in Bomas and CoE Drafts before Kilifi and Naivasha ukora. Hybrid didn't fall from the sky Kenyans wanted it through years of consultations.
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SO BBI if it was truly people driven process - should simply has renamed Duale job to PM - and make him supervisor and coordinator of gov.
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You think BBI lineup is patented by Raila or what? That only Raila can offer PM and Deputy PMs :) and nobody else can?
. Ruto will play the game according to the rules. If there is PMship - he won't lack people to promise. You really have puny brain.
Mavoko brain just wait to be shafted after backing Uhuru since 2001 - 20 years :) Ruto has been kicked out of literally every camp he ever joined after doing all the donkey work. Meantime BBI lineup is loading. I asked you what is your fallback when BBI pass parliament and Ndii nonsense get tossed - as 2022 become Yes vs No. What does watermelon lineup look like?