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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: GeeMail on February 17, 2021, 08:09:57 PM

Title: Pundit we're watching how you're not watching this BBI
Post by: GeeMail on February 17, 2021, 08:09:57 PM
https://www.the-star.co.ke/counties/rift-valley/2021-02-17-kajiado-passes-bbi-bill/

Steamroller in the counties. Baringo was an eye-opener.
Title: Re: Pundit we're watching how you're not watching this BBI
Post by: RV Pundit on February 18, 2021, 01:41:14 AM
MCAs will approve and so will parliament but Judiciary will stop regae. There are 11 cases - watch those. IEBC is already injuncted.

7 cases in high court. 4 cases in supreme court.

And more to be filled because gov is not keen to follow the law.
Title: Re: Pundit we're watching how you're not watching this BBI
Post by: Pragmatic on February 18, 2021, 09:12:37 AM
MCAs will approve and so will parliament but Judiciary will stop regae. There are 11 cases - watch those. IEBC is already injuncted.

7 cases in high court. 4 cases in supreme court.

And more to be filled because gov is not keen to follow the law.

You are deluding yourself... hoping on false hope. Whether it is one or 100cases, they will be consolidated and dispensed with in one swoop. BBI is fait accompli....
Title: Re: Pundit we're watching how you're not watching this BBI
Post by: RV Pundit on February 18, 2021, 09:18:55 AM
If judiciary wants interference of their independence; let them allow exeuctive to pass this evil BBI; if they want hybrid system where Mps and MCAs are part of the executive; pass it.

Give Ruto imperial power and then come and cry later.

I believe all those 11 cases - one or two will succeed. The Ndii basic structure of constitution is quite interesting - and if granted will guard the constitution from being multilated through ammendment.

The rest are really about BBI flouting procedures and rules. One or two of them will probably see BBI being told to go back and do it right. This is good for time saving because Uhuru is now 1yr to irrelance.

You are deluding yourself... hoping on false hope. Whether it is one or 100cases, they will be consolidated and dispensed with in one swoop. BBI is fait accompli....
Title: Re: Pundit we're watching how you're not watching this BBI
Post by: Kichwa on February 18, 2021, 06:04:03 PM
BBI is going to pass and Ruto is not going to be president-problem solved.

If judiciary wants interference of their independence; let them allow exeuctive to pass this evil BBI; if they want hybrid system where Mps and MCAs are part of the executive; pass it.

Give Ruto imperial power and then come and cry later.

I believe all those 11 cases - one or two will succeed. The Ndii basic structure of constitution is quite interesting - and if granted will guard the constitution from being multilated through ammendment.

The rest are really about BBI flouting procedures and rules. One or two of them will probably see BBI being told to go back and do it right. This is good for time saving because Uhuru is now 1yr to irrelance.

You are deluding yourself... hoping on false hope. Whether it is one or 100cases, they will be consolidated and dispensed with in one swoop. BBI is fait accompli....
Title: Re: Pundit we're watching how you're not watching this BBI
Post by: RV Pundit on February 18, 2021, 06:14:34 PM
You've reduced your long inshas to one liner. Na bado Ruto has not become pork. You'll be saying one word only. Ruto.

Okay which article of BBI targets Ruto :)

BBI is going to pass and Ruto is not going to be president-problem solved.
Title: Re: Pundit we're watching how you're not watching this BBI
Post by: Njuri Ncheke on February 18, 2021, 07:41:58 PM
Courts wont stop BBI its only the masses that will. Thats where the rubber will meet the road.
Title: Re: Pundit we're watching how you're not watching this BBI
Post by: GeeMail on February 18, 2021, 08:24:44 PM
Laikipia becomes the 11th county to pass BBI after Nairobi, Vihiga, Busia. Counties are passing the thing like a scorned woman. Laikipia was supposed to be Tangatanga outpost with potential Ruto runningmate in Mwangi Kiunjuri. What happened Pundit? And just a rutru bit of a reminder. Laikipia is not in Nyanza. It is deep in Mt Kenya.
Title: Re: Pundit we're watching how you're not watching this BBI
Post by: RV Pundit on February 18, 2021, 08:56:59 PM
Why would MCAs oppose BBI when it very good for them; it gives them ward fund; make them become part of executives; and increase allocation to counties; and on top of it - gov just gave them 2M car grant.
Laikipia becomes the 11th county to pass BBI after Nairobi, Vihiga, Busia. Counties are passing the thing like a scorned woman. Laikipia was supposed to be Tangatanga outpost with potential Ruto runningmate in Mwangi Kiunjuri. What happened Pundit? And just a rutru bit of a reminder. Laikipia is not in Nyanza. It is deep in Mt Kenya.
Title: Re: Pundit we're watching how you're not watching this BBI
Post by: RV Pundit on February 18, 2021, 08:58:48 PM
Courts will buy us time - the biggest losers in BBI is the public and the judiciary - both have to fight this odious mongrel that takes us back to old dark days. Now judiciary can declare the whole thing null and void - or can ask the BBI proponents to fix it - and there 11 strong cases.
Courts wont stop BBI its only the masses that will. Thats where the rubber will meet the road.
Title: Re: Pundit we're watching how you're not watching this BBI
Post by: Njuri Ncheke on February 18, 2021, 09:01:27 PM
Laikipia becomes the 11th county to pass BBI after Nairobi, Vihiga, Busia. Counties are passing the thing like a scorned woman. Laikipia was supposed to be Tangatanga outpost with potential Ruto runningmate in Mwangi Kiunjuri. What happened Pundit? And just a rutru bit of a reminder. Laikipia is not in Nyanza. It is deep in Mt Kenya.
BBI Will pass everywhere no one expected otherwise after MCAs were bribed enmasse. Gatheca is ok to ruin the economy just to have a mbimbi i legacy. Lets wait for the referendum apo ndio mtajua hamjui.
Title: Re: Pundit we're watching how you're not watching this BBI
Post by: Nowayhaha on February 18, 2021, 10:05:00 PM

Bribed by 2 M and signing their life away, The BBI says MCAs must be graduates , 80% of them will be knocked out come 2022 if it passes, in regards to the referendum watajua hawajui.

Laikipia becomes the 11th county to pass BBI after Nairobi, Vihiga, Busia. Counties are passing the thing like a scorned woman. Laikipia was supposed to be Tangatanga outpost with potential Ruto runningmate in Mwangi Kiunjuri. What happened Pundit? And just a rutru bit of a reminder. Laikipia is not in Nyanza. It is deep in Mt Kenya.
BBI Will pass everywhere no one expected otherwise after MCAs were bribed enmasse. Gatheca is ok to ruin the economy just to have a mbimbi i legacy. Lets wait for the referendum apo ndio mtajua hamjui.
Title: Re: Pundit we're watching how you're not watching this BBI
Post by: GeeMail on February 19, 2021, 12:06:17 PM
Laikipia becomes the 11th county to pass BBI after Nairobi, Vihiga, Busia. Counties are passing the thing like a scorned woman. Laikipia was supposed to be Tangatanga outpost with potential Ruto runningmate in Mwangi Kiunjuri. What happened Pundit? And just a rutru bit of a reminder. Laikipia is not in Nyanza. It is deep in Mt Kenya.
BBI Will pass everywhere no one expected otherwise after MCAs were bribed enmasse. Gatheca is ok to ruin the economy just to have a mbimbi i legacy. Lets wait for the referendum apo ndio mtajua hamjui.

Well spoken by a person who does not know Tangatanga high priest has bribed his adherents even more.
Title: Re: Pundit we're watching how you're not watching this BBI
Post by: Njuri Ncheke on February 19, 2021, 02:06:08 PM
Laikipia becomes the 11th county to pass BBI after Nairobi, Vihiga, Busia. Counties are passing the thing like a scorned woman. Laikipia was supposed to be Tangatanga outpost with potential Ruto runningmate in Mwangi Kiunjuri. What happened Pundit? And just a rutru bit of a reminder. Laikipia is not in Nyanza. It is deep in Mt Kenya.
BBI Will pass everywhere no one expected otherwise after MCAs were bribed enmasse. Gatheca is ok to ruin the economy just to have a mbimbi i legacy. Lets wait for the referendum apo ndio mtajua hamjui.

Well spoken by a person who does not know Tangatanga high priest has bribed his adherents even more.
Have you seen me throw tantrums?? If that's how they will play no problem because we will play more dirty. No issues.
Title: Re: Pundit we're watching how you're not watching this BBI
Post by: GeeMail on February 22, 2021, 07:43:26 PM
https://www.the-star.co.ke/counties/rift-valley/2021-02-22-bbi-train-hits-halfway-mark-as-samburu-county-passes-bill/

SAMBURU County Assembly latest to pass the BBI Bill in a unanimous vote by all 26 MCAs; more counties set to vote tomorrow.

The way we were told and reassured that the pastoralists are all in one Tangatanga basket.
Title: Re: Pundit we're watching how you're not watching this BBI
Post by: RV Pundit on February 23, 2021, 12:21:14 PM
BBI has passed the 24 counties. Next stop parliament.

Judiciary is waiting at the very end to declare all this null and void.

Let them continue rushing headlong
Title: Re: Pundit we're watching how you're not watching this BBI
Post by: Nowayhaha on February 23, 2021, 12:46:47 PM
BBI has passed the 24 counties. Next stop parliament.

Judiciary is waiting at the very end to declare all this null and void.

Let them continue rushing headlong

The other counties should not stress themselves debating or tabling it in the assemblies . This BBI was to be used by Raila for a contest - He will not get it
Title: Re: Pundit we're watching how you're not watching this BBI
Post by: GeeMail on February 23, 2021, 12:57:52 PM
https://nation.africa/kenya/news/politics/kenya-to-hold-referendum-as-bbi-bill-passes-county-assemblies-threshold-3301202

Truly super Tuesday as RAO predicted. How will the many court cases help the Wily arap Barrow?
Title: Re: Pundit we're watching how you're not watching this BBI
Post by: audacityofhope on February 23, 2021, 01:27:45 PM
The court can only intervene if a illegality has been committed. It will be weary getting involved in what is considered a popular initiative. Not that I like the BBI any better. But I don't parrot about it like my life depends on it.

MCAs will approve and so will parliament but Judiciary will stop regae. There are 11 cases - watch those. IEBC is already injuncted.

7 cases in high court. 4 cases in supreme court.

And more to be filled because gov is not keen to follow the law.
Title: Re: Pundit we're watching how you're not watching this BBI
Post by: KenyanPlato on February 23, 2021, 01:48:00 PM
Njuri

Meru was not even needed.
Title: Re: Pundit we're watching how you're not watching this BBI
Post by: RV Pundit on February 23, 2021, 02:05:37 PM
BBI was illegal ab initio. It's formation and funding. Do you know the details? There are 11 court cases that have been certified to raise weighty issues and so far IEBC is injunction. Some of the case go back to formation of BBI opague...illegal funding...and as we speak today..BBI process is being rushed...no public participation..IEBC were forced to validate signature in a week almost..they gave kenyans 4 days to check their names...not sufficient. Some assemblies in Nyanza passed it without bothering with public participation. MCAs have been bribed with car grants.

BBI is heading nowhere.

Heck it's targeting judicial independent.

The court can only intervene if a illegality has been committed. It will be weary getting involved in what is considered a popular initiative. Not that I like the BBI any better. But I don't parrot about it like my life depends on it.
Title: Re: Pundit we're watching how you're not watching this BBI
Post by: audacityofhope on February 23, 2021, 03:49:14 PM
Njuri

Meru was not even needed.

:s_laugh:
Title: Re: Pundit we're watching how you're not watching this BBI
Post by: Njuri Ncheke on February 23, 2021, 03:57:32 PM
Njuri

Meru was not even needed.
You make it sound as if Meru represents half of the country. The real BBI will be faced on the ground refrendum time. Hapo ndio katambe.
Title: Re: Pundit we're watching how you're not watching this BBI
Post by: Kichwa on February 23, 2021, 05:12:19 PM
Another goal post? Ok.

Njuri

Meru was not even needed.
You make it sound as if Meru represents half of the country. The real BBI will be faced on the ground refrendum time. Hapo ndio katambe.
Title: Re: Pundit we're watching how you're not watching this BBI
Post by: KenyanPlato on February 23, 2021, 10:11:44 PM
Njuri

Meru was not even needed.
You make it sound as if Meru represents half of the country. The real BBI will be faced on the ground refrendum time. Hapo ndio katambe.
There will be no referendum like there was no nairobi county elections. Tangatanga adherents have been sent on a wild goose chase. Everyday the reality is different from what they expect.
Title: Re: Pundit we're watching how you're not watching this BBI
Post by: Nowayhaha on February 23, 2021, 11:13:23 PM

Which goal post , we have maintained for a long time elected leaders vis a vis ground are very different things, Robina with her galaxy inshas went into retirement specifically because of that.
Approximately 5 of you guys have been very active last 2 days, even claiming and congratulating yourselves having been on kenyan political internet for 5 years. I can confidently say Ruto will retire you guys once and for all. I will be here to do you the honours.

Another goal post? Ok.

Njuri

Meru was not even needed.
You make it sound as if Meru represents half of the country. The real BBI will be faced on the ground refrendum time. Hapo ndio katambe.
Title: Re: Pundit we're watching how you're not watching this BBI
Post by: Kichwa on February 24, 2021, 06:30:58 AM
Ok


Which goal post , we have maintained for a long time elected leaders vis a vis ground are very different things, Robina with her galaxy inshas went into retirement specifically because of that.
Approximately 5 of you guys have been very active last 2 days, even claiming and congratulating yourselves having been on kenyan political internet for 5 years. I can confidently say Ruto will retire you guys once and for all. I will be here to do you the honours.

Another goal post? Ok.

Njuri

Meru was not even needed.
You make it sound as if Meru represents half of the country. The real BBI will be faced on the ground refrendum time. Hapo ndio katambe.