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Title: Kalonzo goes for Ruto jugular over kabila-mbili & sleaze
Post by: Nefertiti on January 18, 2021, 04:48:12 PM
Kalonzo labels Ruto chief land grabber as he fights off accusation
By MOSES NYAMORI | January 18th 2021

(https://cdn.standardmedia.co.ke/images/monday/wrcdwl7612ujebkdaf600572b2614b5.jpg)
Wiper Party leader Kalonzo Musyoka addresses the press at Serena Hotel. [Edward Kiplimo, Standard]


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Wiper party leader Kalonzo Musyoka has labelled Deputy President William Ruto as chief land grabber as he fought off claims of illegally acquiring Yatta land belong to the National Youth Service.

Speaking in Nairobi today, Kalonzo linked the DP to major land grabbing scandals, including the illegal possession of 100 acres belonging to the late Adrian Muteshi to the Weston Hotel saga.

In a no-holds-barred response to Ruto’s claims that the former vice president only known legacy in government was the grabbing of 200 acres of NYS land in Yatta, Kalonzo demanded that the DP be subjected to a lifestyle audit to investigate how he acquired tracts of land in various parts of the country.

He termed the claims by Ruto as wild and desperate propaganda, describing himself as a person of high moral and ethical standards.

He called on the investigative agencies probe and settle the recurrent matter. It is not the first time Kalonzo was under criticism on how he acquired the parcel.

“I am today presenting myself for thorough investigation by the Directorate of Criminal Investigations as well as the Anti-Corruption Commission. I want the matter settled once and for all,” said Kalonzo.

He went on, “In the same vein, I challenge DP Ruto, alias “Arap Mashamba” well known for his unbridled greed for both public and private land, to offer himself for investigations concerning various claims of corruption.”

The tiff between the two politicians was triggered by claims by Kalonzo that Ruto populated his 50 per cent share in Jubilee administration with the Kalenjin.

“Who doesn’t know that Uhuru got 50 per cent of the government and Ruto 50 per cent, to the exclusion of everybody else. At least, Uhuru took his 50 per cent as a national leader and gave out some slots to other communities,” said Kalonzo.

“But what did his counterpart (Ruto) do? Look at the structure and you will be amazed,” he added.

But Ruto hit back, claiming that despite Kalonzo serving as Cabinet Minister in various dockets and as vice president, the only legacy to his name was the alleged grabbing of the Yatta land.


https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/politics/article/2001400521/kalonzo-labels-ruto-chief-land-grabber-as-he-fights-off-accusation
Title: Re: Kalonzo goes for Ruto jugular over kabila-mbili & sleaze
Post by: Nefertiti on January 18, 2021, 04:52:17 PM
Kalonzo compares Ruto to Donald Trump
Title: Re: Kalonzo goes for Ruto jugular over kabila-mbili & sleaze
Post by: Nefertiti on January 18, 2021, 05:00:03 PM
Kalonzo: Ruto 50% was pure Kalenjin
Title: Re: Kalonzo goes for Ruto jugular over kabila-mbili & sleaze
Post by: Nefertiti on January 18, 2021, 05:08:04 PM
Kalonzo lists Ruto mile-long criminal rapsheet
Title: Re: Kalonzo goes for Ruto jugular over kabila-mbili & sleaze
Post by: RV Pundit on January 18, 2021, 05:58:43 PM
I hope he doesn't lose machakos because Ruto is knocking on his door...hence the panic
Title: Re: Kalonzo goes for Ruto jugular over kabila-mbili & sleaze
Post by: Nefertiti on January 18, 2021, 06:22:41 PM
it not panic but tact. Ruto attempt to go to Ukambani hence the urgency to expose his true colors. The pretend emotions and anger are to incite Kamba. I told you this will be Ruto vs Kalonzo with Muthama & Mutua & Kivuthas as midgets. They picked Muthama wife to neuter his bile as everyone get reminded he is a failure in his own small homestead let alone big Kamba. Muthama will not be able to attack Kalonzo nor defend Ruto - a jilted wife can be brutal
Title: Re: Kalonzo goes for Ruto jugular over kabila-mbili & sleaze
Post by: patel on January 18, 2021, 06:24:13 PM
All Kenyan politicians are thieves...ain't Kalonzo sitting on 400 acres NYS land...wote ni wezi
Title: Re: Kalonzo goes for Ruto jugular over kabila-mbili & sleaze
Post by: RV Pundit on January 18, 2021, 06:27:15 PM
it not panic but tact. Ruto attempt to go to Ukambani hence the urgency to expose his true colors. The pretend emotions and anger are to incite Kamba. I told you this will be Ruto vs Kalonzo with Muthama & Mutua & Kivuthas as midgets. They picked Muthama wife to neuter his bile as everyone get reminded he is a failure in his own small homestead let alone big Kamba. Muthama will not be able to attack Kalonzo nor defend Ruto - a jilted wife can be brutal
Kalonzo versus Ruto plus muthama plus sonko..kalonzo is stale news.Muthama alone is enough to neutralise him .Smart people are attacking uhuru and his Gov..but kalonzo want to attack Ruto..who is powerless in gov.Hiyo ni kurogwa.People can see its nothing more than jealousy and rivalry.He should attack Uhuru
Title: Re: Kalonzo goes for Ruto jugular over kabila-mbili & sleaze
Post by: Nefertiti on January 18, 2021, 06:30:11 PM
Pundit  - i told you BBI crew are propping Mdvd to lock out Ruto in Luhya. I see them on Youtube with Weta hammering Ruto with kabila-mbili  :) will post later. I expect ODM to "reach a deal" with Mdvd and step down for ANC in Matungu in Handshake spirit. Mdvd-Weta will be feasting on Ruto for extending kabila mbili selfishness to 100 years.
Title: Re: Kalonzo goes for Ruto jugular over kabila-mbili & sleaze
Post by: RV Pundit on January 18, 2021, 06:32:19 PM
Pundit  - i told you BBI crew are propping Mdvd to lock out Ruto in Luhya. I see them on Youtube with Weta hammering Ruto with kabila-mbili  :) will post later. I expect ODM to "reach a deal" with Mdvd and step down for ANC in Matungu in Handshake spirit. Mdvd-Weta will be feasting on Ruto for extending kabila mbili selfishness to 100 years.
Obviously weta is feeling the heat in kabuchai...the weak are all merging because they have no message or momentum.Weta will take you where...party of 4 mps...with 3 against him.Matungu is btw odm and Uda.Peter Were is real thug..and Echeza will have to deal with him.Madvd will see nothing in Matungu.At least kabuchai is btw weta majimbo and Ruto kaikai.Madvd outside vihiga margolis is absent
Title: Re: Kalonzo goes for Ruto jugular over kabila-mbili & sleaze
Post by: Nefertiti on January 18, 2021, 06:37:57 PM
Kalonzo versus Ruto plus muthama plus sonko..kalonzo is stale news.Muthama alone is enough to neutralise him .Smart people are attacking uhuru and his Gov..but kalonzo want to attack Ruto..who is powerless in gov.Hiyo ni kurogwa.People can see its nothing more than jealousy and rivalry.He should attack Uhuru

There is no Jubilee or ODM in Machaa.. you can't demonize imaginary enemy. That Muthama only strength- anti-Kikuyu venom. In fact the few Kikuyu in Machaa town will turn hostile if he attacks Uhuru. Sonko has no power over Kamba - they have voted 95% Raila despite Sonko backing Uhuru.

Kambi-mbili currency is lethal weapon. Basically how does someone appoint ZERO kamba in his 50% - then shed skin like a viper - and claim to love kamba. Hio ndo hoja ya msingi.

So long as Ruto poke his nose this is a national duel. If he kept off it would be Wiper vs Chap Chap vs Muthama... akin to 2017 governor. We all know how that went.
Title: Re: Kalonzo goes for Ruto jugular over kabila-mbili & sleaze
Post by: Kichwa on January 18, 2021, 06:40:22 PM
After the BBI passes, they will present an inclusive coalition government to the people of Kenya while Ruto will present himself as a strongman, dear leader.  Kenyans will then be asked whether they would like an inclusive coalition government or a "strongman" malevolent dictator like Ruto.  It will be a very simple campaign.

Pundit  - i told you BBI crew are propping Mdvd to lock out Ruto in Luhya. I see them on Youtube with Weta hammering Ruto with kabila-mbili  :) will post later. I expect ODM to "reach a deal" with Mdvd and step down for ANC in Matungu in Handshake spirit. Mdvd-Weta will be feasting on Ruto for extending kabila mbili selfishness to 100 years.
Obviously weta is feeling the heat in kabuchai...the weak are all merging because they have no message or momentum.Weta will take you where...party of 4 mps...with 3 against him.Matungu is btw odm and Uda.Peter Were is real thug..and Echeza will have to deal with him.Madvd will see nothing in Matungu.At least kabuchai is btw weta majimbo and Ruto kaikai
Title: Re: Kalonzo goes for Ruto jugular over kabila-mbili & sleaze
Post by: RV Pundit on January 18, 2021, 06:42:21 PM
Kalonzo versus Ruto plus muthama plus sonko..kalonzo is stale news.Muthama alone is enough to neutralise him .Smart people are attacking uhuru and his Gov..but kalonzo want to attack Ruto..who is powerless in gov.Hiyo ni kurogwa.People can see its nothing more than jealousy and rivalry.He should attack Uhuru

There is no Jubilee or ODM in Machaa.. you can't demonize imaginary enemy. That Muthama only strength- anti-Kikuyu venom. In fact the few Kikuyu in Machaa town will turn hostile if he attacks Uhuru. Sonko has no power over Kamba - they have voted 95% Raila despite Sonko backing Uhuru.

Kambi-mbili currency is lethal weapon. Basically how does someone appoint ZERO kamba in his 50% - then shed skin like a viper - and claim to love kamba. Hio ndo hoja ya msingi.

So long as Ruto poke his nose this is a national duel. If he kept off it would be Wiper vs Chap Chap vs Muthama... akin to 2017 governor. We all know how that went.
Ruto has never been pork so attack jubilee uhuru.kikuyus would love nothing than protest vote against uhuru.Kalonzo doesn't understand politics like you don't. Attack the lameduck who cannot defend himself,rally your base and then negotiate. But he is totally confused and as always being nice so uhuru can toshack him.power come from the people.Uhuru may not like Ruto but he is smart enough to know he gotta negotiate .Ruto know the only way to beat gema machinery is to build a counter force.. not prostrate and wait for toshack....like 10 guys are doing..Raila,Matiangi, kalonzo  madvd mutual gideon.In the meantime Ruto is going for their bases as they wait like fools to be endorsed and handed gema votes in a basket
Title: Re: Kalonzo goes for Ruto jugular over kabila-mbili & sleaze
Post by: RV Pundit on January 18, 2021, 06:43:06 PM
After the BBI passes, they will present an inclusive coalition government to the people of Kenya while Ruto will present himself as a strongman, dear leader.  Kenyans will then be asked whether they would like an inclusive coalition government or a "strongman" malevolent dictator like Ruto.  It will be a very simple campaign.

Pundit  - i told you BBI crew are propping Mdvd to lock out Ruto in Luhya. I see them on Youtube with Weta hammering Ruto with kabila-mbili  :) will post later. I expect ODM to "reach a deal" with Mdvd and step down for ANC in Matungu in Handshake spirit. Mdvd-Weta will be feasting on Ruto for extending kabila mbili selfishness to 100 years.
Obviously weta is feeling the heat in kabuchai...the weak are all merging because they have no message or momentum.Weta will take you where...party of 4 mps...with 3 against him.Matungu is btw odm and Uda.Peter Were is real thug..and Echeza will have to deal with him.Madvd will see nothing in Matungu.At least kabuchai is btw weta majimbo and Ruto kaikai
BBI imekufa..time barred.Signature verification will end maybe march..counties need 3 months..parliament maybe 6 months..hiyo tuko 2022..the thing is unpopular ..worse it targets the judiciary...so one too many injunctions will kill it
Title: Re: Kalonzo goes for Ruto jugular over kabila-mbili & sleaze
Post by: GeeMail on January 18, 2021, 09:34:52 PM
Politically, Ruto made a big misstep to attack Kalonzo. Everybody knows Kalonzo is a humble and weak candidate but can be lethal when attacked. Ruto gains absolutely nothing from starting this attack but can lose everything in Ukambani and outside. He could have courted Kalonzo by campaigning on policy. What did he do for Ukambani when he was in agriculture? Ruto is totally tactless and very vindictive. Recently he was the new watermelon. WE are reminded ad nauseaum how he is young and sober, does not drink but now behaving worse than a drunk in the sewer. He will have to hang his boots a bitter man when it was totally avoidable. Who is advising him?

https://nation.africa/kenya/counties/muteshi-man-who-took-on-dp-ruto-in-land-grabbing-case-dies-2724104
Title: Re: Kalonzo goes for Ruto jugular over kabila-mbili & sleaze
Post by: audacityofhope on January 19, 2021, 07:20:43 AM
All Kenyan politicians are thieves...ain't Kalonzo sitting on 400 acres NYS land...wote ni wezi
Patel, acha tu watoboe... a court would not sit to take an account in a a case between two robbers. But this is not a court - it is politicians throwing mud. Just grab your popcorn....
Title: Re: Kalonzo goes for Ruto jugular over kabila-mbili & sleaze
Post by: RV Pundit on January 19, 2021, 07:36:30 AM
Politically, Ruto made a big misstep to attack Kalonzo. Everybody knows Kalonzo is a humble and weak candidate but can be lethal when attacked. Ruto gains absolutely nothing from starting this attack but can lose everything in Ukambani and outside. He could have courted Kalonzo by campaigning on policy. What did he do for Ukambani when he was in agriculture? Ruto is totally tactless and very vindictive. Recently he was the new watermelon. WE are reminded ad nauseaum how he is young and sober, does not drink but now behaving worse than a drunk in the sewer. He will have to hang his boots a bitter man when it was totally avoidable. Who is advising him?

https://nation.africa/kenya/counties/muteshi-man-who-took-on-dp-ruto-in-land-grabbing-case-dies-2724104
Kalonzo is an empty suit that Ruto is going for his territory with muthama,sonko and kivutha on board.
Title: Re: Kalonzo goes for Ruto jugular over kabila-mbili & sleaze
Post by: GeeMail on January 19, 2021, 10:53:20 AM
https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2021-01-19-rutos-land-grab-appetite-is-unrivalled-kalonzo/

Kuchokoza nyuki bure tu, throwing stones while living in glass house. I think they will wait with nuclear Kiambaa church fire story for now.
Title: Re: Kalonzo goes for Ruto jugular over kabila-mbili & sleaze
Post by: RV Pundit on January 19, 2021, 11:08:51 AM
Kalonzo started it. He accused Ruto of appointing only Kalenjin in Jubilee coalition after getting some courage from Uhuru kabila mbili mess. Ruto hit back - and now he has run to press conference crying. Ruto is not interested in negotiating with Kalonzo. He has Muthama, Sonko and Kivutha - and many Ukambani Mps. UDA ticket had so many contestant in Machakos.

Kalonzo is one of those half-been - and I doubt if Kambas are still keen on supporting such a feckless leader.

Machakos we will see - but definitely Kalonzo is facing rebellion everywhere - except from Ngilu who has gone slow on him. Mutua will be hitting him. Ruto and team will hit him.

https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2021-01-19-rutos-land-grab-appetite-is-unrivalled-kalonzo/

Kuchokoza nyuki bure tu, throwing stones while living in glass house. I think they will wait with nuclear Kiambaa church fire story for now.
Title: Re: Kalonzo goes for Ruto jugular over kabila-mbili & sleaze
Post by: GeeMail on January 19, 2021, 11:28:05 AM
Kalonzo is a have-been but Ruto fighting him tooth and nail? What does that mean? Ruto should spend time with Sonko and Muthama and other have-beens instead of fighting another have-been Kalonzo. Kalonzo has little to loose but Ruto can loose everything including impeachment. He has succeeded in reuniting dead horse NASA. Not to mention Jubilee deep state.
Title: Re: Kalonzo goes for Ruto jugular over kabila-mbili & sleaze
Post by: RV Pundit on January 19, 2021, 11:42:30 AM
Again Kalonzo started attacking Ruto because he can see Ruto circling Machakos and Makueni. For now Ruto is not interested in negotiation. That will happen in 2022. The NASA crew together with deep state are not campaigning. But hoping from one bar to the other - organizing how they can split position in post BBI kenya. That is dumb strategy. Ground game hakuna.

Ruto is right now finishing Raila in coast, attacking Kalonzo in Ukambani, overrunning Weta in Bungoma, and fighting both Raila and maDVD in Kakamega - and also trying to keep some allies in Gusii despite Matiangi going round claiming to be waiting to be endorsed by Uhuru.

This he is doing while defending GEMA from Kieleweke assault.

This Ruto will add to Kamatusa+somali reliable base.

And come 2022 - he will probably need to negotiate with one person for DPORK.


Kalonzo is a have-been but Ruto fighting him tooth and nail? What does that mean? Ruto should spend time with Sonko and Muthama and other have-beens instead of fighting another have-been Kalonzo. Kalonzo has little to loose but Ruto can loose everything including impeachment. He has succeeded in reuniting dead horse NASA. Not to mention Jubilee deep state.
Title: Re: Kalonzo goes for Ruto jugular over kabila-mbili & sleaze
Post by: Nefertiti on January 19, 2021, 11:47:28 AM
Pundit  - i told you BBI crew are propping Mdvd to lock out Ruto in Luhya. I see them on Youtube with Weta hammering Ruto with kabila-mbili  :) will post later. I expect ODM to "reach a deal" with Mdvd and step down for ANC in Matungu in Handshake spirit. Mdvd-Weta will be feasting on Ruto for extending kabila mbili selfishness to 100 years.
Obviously weta is feeling the heat in kabuchai...the weak are all merging because they have no message or momentum.Weta will take you where...party of 4 mps...with 3 against him.Matungu is btw odm and Uda.Peter Were is real thug..and Echeza will have to deal with him.Madvd will see nothing in Matungu.At least kabuchai is btw weta majimbo and Ruto kaikai.Madvd outside vihiga margolis is absent

i thought Matungu is in Vihiga county- Mdvd Maragoli stronghold
Title: Re: Kalonzo goes for Ruto jugular over kabila-mbili & sleaze
Post by: RV Pundit on January 19, 2021, 11:56:20 AM
No- Matungu is Mumias town - on your way to Busia.

It starts from Mayoni ( Echeza Islamic slum of Wanga and Nubians) - from old British military base -after making deal with Nabongo Mumia

Then it goes south toward Busia - Nambale (Amos Wako/Chris Okumu home)

I think probably mixed - with Wangas on the north - and maramas or oparanya people on the south.

Ruto has Echeza and Mumias East Mp Washiali - in his wanga front.

It's definitely going to get violent - because Were is very violent -- and so is Echeza.

Malala is a wanga-luo I think and will also be in the mix for maDVD

i thought Matungu is in Vihiga county- Mdvd Maragoli stronghold
Title: Re: Kalonzo goes for Ruto jugular over kabila-mbili & sleaze
Post by: Nefertiti on January 19, 2021, 12:16:04 PM
Sounds like lethal mix. These coordinated attacks are signature Baba - he is attacking Ruto nationally over Jubilee mess - as Uhuru, Kalonzo, Mdvds go tribal. Mdvd-Weta unity is telling- looks choreographed after Weta was cornered by Dr Eseli- Wamunyinyi- Wangamati. Don't be surprised if ODM retreat and back Mdvd... it worth it for them to humble Ruto. But I don't know the ground details like you so let us see.

How come Lusaka is MIA in Kabuchai? - he was governor there.
Title: Re: Kalonzo goes for Ruto jugular over kabila-mbili & sleaze
Post by: Nefertiti on January 19, 2021, 12:33:24 PM
BBI crew are not sitting idle or "hopping from one bar to another" as Ruto run circles. Hubris will kill you. Raila has completely wrecked MV Jubilee and has serious game in Gema - which was Ruto's biggest stronghold outside URP. Now he is orchestrating kabila-mbili to fend off Ruto offensive in non-Gema. One or two Giddy might be delusional but Baba asha wapanga. BBI is blank cheque... even omena like Mutua will pretend to run for PORK then last-minute go for Machakos MP in BBI tent.

This openly class vs tribe .. Raila vs Ruto

Again Kalonzo started attacking Ruto because he can see Ruto circling Machakos and Makueni. For now Ruto is not interested in negotiation. That will happen in 2022. The NASA crew together with deep state are not campaigning. But hoping from one bar to the other - organizing how they can split position in post BBI kenya. That is dumb strategy. Ground game hakuna.

Ruto is right now finishing Raila in coast, attacking Kalonzo in Ukambani, overrunning Weta in Bungoma, and fighting both Raila and maDVD in Kakamega - and also trying to keep some allies in Gusii despite Matiangi going round claiming to be waiting to be endorsed by Uhuru.

This he is doing while defending GEMA from Kieleweke assault.

This Ruto will add to Kamatusa+somali reliable base.

And come 2022 - he will probably need to negotiate with one person for DPORK.


Kalonzo is a have-been but Ruto fighting him tooth and nail? What does that mean? Ruto should spend time with Sonko and Muthama and other have-beens instead of fighting another have-been Kalonzo. Kalonzo has little to loose but Ruto can loose everything including impeachment. He has succeeded in reuniting dead horse NASA. Not to mention Jubilee deep state.
Title: Re: Kalonzo goes for Ruto jugular over kabila-mbili & sleaze
Post by: Nowayhaha on January 19, 2021, 01:23:03 PM

RV Pundit , Its about time you put Robina in her place , this Doink the clown ish is overwhelming.

BBI crew are not sitting idle or "hopping from one bar to another" as Ruto run circles. Hubris will kill you. Raila has completely wrecked MV Jubilee and has serious game in Gema - which was Ruto's biggest stronghold outside URP. Now he is orchestrating kabila-mbili to fend off Ruto offensive in non-Gema. One or two Giddy might be delusional but Baba asha wapanga. BBI is blank cheque... even omena like Mutua will pretend to run for PORK then last-minute go for Machakos MP in BBI tent.

This openly class vs tribe .. Raila vs Ruto

Again Kalonzo started attacking Ruto because he can see Ruto circling Machakos and Makueni. For now Ruto is not interested in negotiation. That will happen in 2022. The NASA crew together with deep state are not campaigning. But hoping from one bar to the other - organizing how they can split position in post BBI kenya. That is dumb strategy. Ground game hakuna.

Ruto is right now finishing Raila in coast, attacking Kalonzo in Ukambani, overrunning Weta in Bungoma, and fighting both Raila and maDVD in Kakamega - and also trying to keep some allies in Gusii despite Matiangi going round claiming to be waiting to be endorsed by Uhuru.

This he is doing while defending GEMA from Kieleweke assault.

This Ruto will add to Kamatusa+somali reliable base.

And come 2022 - he will probably need to negotiate with one person for DPORK.


Kalonzo is a have-been but Ruto fighting him tooth and nail? What does that mean? Ruto should spend time with Sonko and Muthama and other have-beens instead of fighting another have-been Kalonzo. Kalonzo has little to loose but Ruto can loose everything including impeachment. He has succeeded in reuniting dead horse NASA. Not to mention Jubilee deep state.
Title: Re: Kalonzo goes for Ruto jugular over kabila-mbili & sleaze
Post by: Nefertiti on January 19, 2021, 01:55:59 PM
 :o kindly repost in English. I believe Pundit appreciates vibrant tackles not journalism.


RV Pundit , Its about time you put Robina in her place , this Doink the clown ish is overwhelming.

BBI crew are not sitting idle or "hopping from one bar to another" as Ruto run circles. Hubris will kill you. Raila has completely wrecked MV Jubilee and has serious game in Gema - which was Ruto's biggest stronghold outside URP. Now he is orchestrating kabila-mbili to fend off Ruto offensive in non-Gema. One or two Giddy might be delusional but Baba asha wapanga. BBI is blank cheque... even omena like Mutua will pretend to run for PORK then last-minute go for Machakos MP in BBI tent.

This openly class vs tribe .. Raila vs Ruto

Again Kalonzo started attacking Ruto because he can see Ruto circling Machakos and Makueni. For now Ruto is not interested in negotiation. That will happen in 2022. The NASA crew together with deep state are not campaigning. But hoping from one bar to the other - organizing how they can split position in post BBI kenya. That is dumb strategy. Ground game hakuna.

Ruto is right now finishing Raila in coast, attacking Kalonzo in Ukambani, overrunning Weta in Bungoma, and fighting both Raila and maDVD in Kakamega - and also trying to keep some allies in Gusii despite Matiangi going round claiming to be waiting to be endorsed by Uhuru.

This he is doing while defending GEMA from Kieleweke assault.

This Ruto will add to Kamatusa+somali reliable base.

And come 2022 - he will probably need to negotiate with one person for DPORK.


Kalonzo is a have-been but Ruto fighting him tooth and nail? What does that mean? Ruto should spend time with Sonko and Muthama and other have-beens instead of fighting another have-been Kalonzo. Kalonzo has little to loose but Ruto can loose everything including impeachment. He has succeeded in reuniting dead horse NASA. Not to mention Jubilee deep state.
Title: Re: Kalonzo goes for Ruto jugular over kabila-mbili & sleaze
Post by: Pragmatic on January 19, 2021, 03:08:04 PM
Sounds like lethal mix. These coordinated attacks are signature Baba - he is attacking Ruto nationally over Jubilee mess - as Uhuru, Kalonzo, Mdvds go tribal. Mdvd-Weta unity is telling- looks choreographed after Weta was cornered by Dr Eseli- Wamunyinyi- Wangamati. Don't be surprised if ODM retreat and back Mdvd... it worth it for them to humble Ruto. But I don't know the ground details like you so let us see.

How come Lusaka is MIA in Kabuchai? - he was governor there.

Matungu will go either ODM or ANC. It is yet to get clear.... some boardroom negotiations are on-going and Were (ODM) may just let it be for ANC to allow for the handshake/BBI camaraderie... Were will come back and easily take it in the proper General Election in 2022.

Kabuchai will go to Ford K.... Weta will get a respite from Eseli- Wamunyinyi- Wangamati triumvirate for the sake of BBI. Kakai was potentially actually a strong candidate but his chosen party will let him down... plus he is being asked to go vie in Maragoli where apparently his father originated from.

Forget the Hustler nonsense.... this is where it will get clear to Ruto that he is selling snake oil in Luhya Land.
Title: Re: Kalonzo goes for Ruto jugular over kabila-mbili & sleaze
Post by: RV Pundit on January 19, 2021, 03:18:07 PM
Contradictory.
Hustler Nation is so strong you're wishing all candidates combines against Hustlers.
If Hustler Nation is weak - why do ANC/ODM need to merge? Why does Weta-and Ford-Kenya crew need to reconcile on face of it.
Prepare for serious battle -because Ruto nows what winning in Bungoma, Kakamega, Nakuru (two MCAs) and Machakos will mean.
I wish we had Nairobi too.
Those would be top 5 counties population wise - only Kiambu would miss - Mombasa we already had Msawbeni.

If NASA brigade are not prepared with millions - Ruto will flood Kabuchai, Matungu and Machakos with money


Matungu will go either ODM or ANC. It is yet to get clear.... some boardroom negotiations are on-going and Were (ODM) may just let it be for ANC to allow for the handshake/BBI camaraderie... Were will come back and easily take it in the proper General Election in 2022.

Kabuchai will go to Ford K.... Weta will get a respite from Eseli- Wamunyinyi- Wangamati triumvirate for the sake of BBI. Kakai was potentially actually a strong candidate but his chosen party will let him down... plus he is being asked to go vie in Maragoli where apparently his father originated from.

Forget the Hustler nonsense.... this is where it will get clear to Ruto that he is selling snake oil in Luhya Land.
Title: Re: Kalonzo goes for Ruto jugular over kabila-mbili & sleaze
Post by: Pragmatic on January 19, 2021, 03:27:25 PM
Contradictory.
Hustler Nation is so strong you're wishing all candidates combines against Hustlers.
If Hustler Nation is weak - why do ANC/ODM need to merge? Why does Weta-and Ford-Kenya crew need to reconcile on face of it.
Prepare for serious battle -because Ruto nows what winning in Bungoma, Kakamega, Nakuru (two MCAs) and Machakos will mean.
I wish we had Nairobi too.
Those would be top 5 counties population wise - only Kiambu would miss - Mombasa we already had Msawbeni.

If NASA brigade are not prepared with millions - Ruto will flood Kabuchai, Matungu and Machakos with money


Matungu will go either ODM or ANC. It is yet to get clear.... some boardroom negotiations are on-going and Were (ODM) may just let it be for ANC to allow for the handshake/BBI camaraderie... Were will come back and easily take it in the proper General Election in 2022.

Kabuchai will go to Ford K.... Weta will get a respite from Eseli- Wamunyinyi- Wangamati triumvirate for the sake of BBI. Kakai was potentially actually a strong candidate but his chosen party will let him down... plus he is being asked to go vie in Maragoli where apparently his father originated from.

Forget the Hustler nonsense.... this is where it will get clear to Ruto that he is selling snake oil in Luhya Land.

Of course it is bad for the narrative and the public optics to let UDA slip through because 2 strong candidates split votes by going for each other's throat. Even in Msambweni, ODM should just have let Bader run but Joho personal beef with him came in the way and he found ready embrace in UDA. It is what it is... and it would be stupid/foolish for the fellows not to see this sense. Tangatanga noise levels will soar to Cloud9 stratosphere if it were to take any of these 2 seats!
Title: Re: Kalonzo goes for Ruto jugular over kabila-mbili & sleaze
Post by: RV Pundit on January 19, 2021, 03:36:54 PM
The stakes are very high. Ruto has been in Matungu and Kabuchai long before by-election. MaDVD, Raila, Kalonzo and Weta are strangers in their own stronghold. This is when you'll discover behind tangatanga noise - is lots of hardwork.

I see Ruto harvesting because he is not new on the ground. His message has resonated. In both place he has probably more Mps than competitor.

In Bungoma - He has all the Mps save for maybe 2 ( Wamunyinyi and Eseli). The two Mps in ford-k don't even support Weta. Now add to fact that Lusaka and Wangamati would love nothing than cut Weta feet's. Ruto gave Lusaka the Speaker job.

In Kakamega - The story is the same - Majority of Mps are with Ruto.  The Wangas knows Ruto has been their friend - with Benjamin Wasiali the Jubilee Chief Whip and Echeza the Minister. So don't think the lazy boy from Maragoli land who has not even tarmack the road to his rural home will get space. The Wangas will chart their own course..

In Machakos - The story is almost the same. Ruto has heavy shifter from Kangundo Muthama as the UDA chairman. Sonko 2nd home is Machakos and he is going to be want to show Uhuru the middle finger and possibly establish himself for 2022 run in Machakos. Ruto has some Mps including Victor Munyaka who is no pushover. Ruto will finish off with poor Kaloi assuming Mutua doesn't finish him.

Obviously all the 3 - Weta-Kalonzo-MaDVD - will resort to tribal politics - and try the kabila mbili.

Ruto will neutralize them with Hustler Nation (Kabila mbili ya matajari na maskini) and of course money will flow.

Of course it is bad for the narrative and the public optics to let UDA slip through because 2 strong candidates split votes by going for each other's throat. Even in Msambweni, ODM should just have let Bader run but Joho personal beef with him came in the way and he found ready embrace in UDA. It is what it is... and it would be stupid/foolish for the fellows not to see this sense. Tangatanga noise levels will soar to Cloud9 stratosphere if it were to take any of these 2 seats!
Title: Re: Kalonzo goes for Ruto jugular over kabila-mbili & sleaze
Post by: Nowayhaha on January 19, 2021, 05:29:58 PM





We very know who Kenyans trump is , its Raila who .as Trump lead an insurrection this year Jan similarly Raila sweared himself in a President in January 2018.
Kalonzo being Railas deputy was not Magnamus enough to do a Pence. Bure Kabisa.





Kalonzo compares Ruto to Donald Trump
Title: Re: Kalonzo goes for Ruto jugular over kabila-mbili & sleaze
Post by: Nowayhaha on January 19, 2021, 05:39:40 PM

Kalonzo is playing into Rutos trap. Ruto knows almost half of Kamba Nation supported Ruto in 2010 referendumn. Secondly unlike Raila who betrayed Kambas in 2007 and after 2017 and Kibaki and Uhuru in 2013 . Ruto does not have that title of a betrayer in Kamba nation . And Lastly Kamba and Rift Valley have worked together in the past during Mois era   those were some of  the best times in Kamaba Nation when they formwd 1/3rd of Civil service and a thord of Kenya forces.

Kalonzo wont know what hit him he is on the verge of becoming what Mudavadi is to Western. Miscalculating just like in 2013 where he would be now having inherited the Mt Kenya. Instead of enderaing to his cousins Mt Kenya he put an all out war for the last 10 years and now he is seen as a persona non granta just like Raila even in Easter  Mt Kenya where they more or less speak similar language with Embu and share same names like Merus.

I hope he doesn't lose machakos because Ruto is knocking on his door...hence the panic
Title: Re: Kalonzo goes for Ruto jugular over kabila-mbili & sleaze
Post by: Nowayhaha on January 19, 2021, 06:24:50 PM
Robina , you are over estimating the current Kalonzo, This is a person who got almost a million votes in 2007 elections , Now 10 years later this is the amount of votes he managed to bring to Raila  bearing in mind there was a population growth in between.

2017 Raila/Kalonzo in Machakos 380,018(80% of valid votes cast)  UhuRuto in Machakos 82,629 (20% of valid votes cast)
2017 Raila/Kalonzo in Kitui 287,293(80% of valid votes cast)  UhuRuto in Kitui 64,252 (20% of valid votes cast)
2017 Raila/Kalonzo in Makueni 301,126(90% of valid votes cast)  UhuRuto in Makueni 27,388  (10% of valid votes cast)

As for MPs In Kitui Jubilee coalition bagged 3 seats where as Wiper bagged 5
As for MPs in Machakos Jubilee coalition bagged 2 seats and Wiper 5 Seats and the other 2 Non Affiliated parties
As for Mps in Makueni Wiper bagged 5 and Non Afiliated parties bagged 2.

So for an upstart lets give Wiper and Kalonzo 80% of the votes in the upcomming Machakos Senatorial elections and we see if he will add to that or he will go a downward trajectory. Your guess is as good as mine.


 




it not panic but tact. Ruto attempt to go to Ukambani hence the urgency to expose his true colors. The pretend emotions and anger are to incite Kamba. I told you this will be Ruto vs Kalonzo with Muthama & Mutua & Kivuthas as midgets. They picked Muthama wife to neuter his bile as everyone get reminded he is a failure in his own small homestead let alone big Kamba. Muthama will not be able to attack Kalonzo nor defend Ruto - a jilted wife can be brutal
Title: Re: Kalonzo goes for Ruto jugular over kabila-mbili & sleaze
Post by: RV Pundit on January 19, 2021, 06:39:09 PM
Kalonzo is barren. I think Machakos and Makueni can go - and he will remain with Kitui - where Ngilu is in quid pro quid with him

Kalonzo is playing into Rutos trap. Ruto knows almost half of Kamba Nation supported Ruto in 2010 referendumn. Secondly unlike Raila who betrayed Kambas in 2007 and after 2017 and Kibaki and Uhuru in 2013 . Ruto does not have that title of a betrayer in Kamba nation . And Lastly Kamba and Rift Valley have worked together in the past during Mois era   those were some of  the best times in Kamaba Nation when they formwd 1/3rd of Civil service and a thord of Kenya forces.

Kalonzo wont know what hit him he is on the verge of becoming what Mudavadi is to Western. Miscalculating just like in 2013 where he would be now having inherited the Mt Kenya. Instead of enderaing to his cousins Mt Kenya he put an all out war for the last 10 years and now he is seen as a persona non granta just like Raila even in Easter  Mt Kenya where they more or less speak similar language with Embu and share same names like Merus.

I hope he doesn't lose machakos because Ruto is knocking on his door...hence the panic