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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: RV Pundit on January 09, 2021, 08:46:35 AM
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They want to play baba but will end up crying baba can still pull one last mass action move to weaken Gatheca while hustler watch from the sidelines, you can't play baba that way, even hustlers will find it revolting we want no one else apart from baba 2022.
I am however unhappy with Hustlers move in Nairobi, Ruto has made a BAD MOVE. he is exposing himself to the enemies and they might be fattening him up for slaughter. Ruto needs to stay calm and show restraint, enemies are baiting him rest he becomes naive. Am disappointed with this latest move.
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Handshake presented two kikuyus - will definitely be Waweru - so Hustler nation has no option but give them Wanjiru. Sonko has to fight in courts otherwise I think he is damaged goods - as long as ODM are cooperating with Uhuru - he will be impeached again and again.
In any case I don't see Nairobi by-election happening.
They want to play baba but will end up crying baba can still pull one last mass action move to weaken Gatheca while hustler watch from the sidelines, you can't play baba that way, even hustlers will find it revolting we want no one else apart from baba 2022.
I am however unhappy with Hustlers move in Nairobi, Ruto has made a BAD MOVE. he is exposing himself to the enemies and they might be fattening him up for slaughter. Ruto needs to stay calm and show restraint, enemies are baiting him rest he becomes naive. Am disappointed with this latest move.
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Yeah Nairobi might abort as Mutura deputize Badi. I am eager to hear Njuri's reasoning that Ruto should stand down. Nairobi boils down to professional manager ala Badi vs hustler ala Sonko. This what Waweru vs Wanjiru represent. Sonko is damaged goods because people are tired of hustler. Clearly tribe remain big factor.
Ruto standing down would be worse move than fielding Wanjiru.
Handshake presented two kikuyus - will definitely be Waweru - so Hustler nation has no option but give them Wanjiru. Sonko has to fight in courts otherwise I think he is damaged goods - as long as ODM are cooperating with Uhuru - he will be impeached again and again.
In any case I don't see Nairobi by-election happening.
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Mutura is a speaker - speaker and mca job is to keep governor in check - not to go in bed together. These are BASICS.
What will happen - MCAs will approve Kananu - she will sworn in - as de-jure governor - with Gen Badi as the de-facto governor.
What could happen - Sonko could get injunction or win the case - Nyamu his lawyer won for Wambora - and comeback as governor.
Also slim possibility of getting Igathe to comeback - I doubt he want to soil his career with the Nairobi mess.
So Kananu or Sonko or election. The judiciary will decide.
Election will be btw Waweru and Wanjiru - so GEMA vote will be split with Wanjiru getting more - and Wanjiru will need Sonko to win Kambas and slum dwellers -
Wanjiru-Sonko-Ruto will beat handshake. Sonko therefore is the decide - if he goes rogue and run as independent - handshake could win. If he backs Wanjiru - handshake will be in trouble - because both Wanjiru-Sonko can excite the Nairobi poor - waweru is like Gen Badi - zero charisma.
While Nairobi middle class appreciate Badi - clean streets - the poor want to hawk in those streets, erect vibandas.
Nairobi is the future of class conflict in kenya - poor versus rich - like in Latin America. The hustler versus dynastic is a little precursor to coming class conflict.
Yeah Nairobi might abort as Mutura deputize Badi. I am eager to hear Njuri's reasoning that Ruto should stand down. Nairobi boils down to professional manager ala Badi vs hustler ala Sonko. This what Waweru vs Wanjiru represent. Clearly tribe remain big factor.
Ruto standing down would be worse move than fielding Wanjiru.
Handshake presented two kikuyus - will definitely be Waweru - so Hustler nation has no option but give them Wanjiru. Sonko has to fight in courts otherwise I think he is damaged goods - as long as ODM are cooperating with Uhuru - he will be impeached again and again.
In any case I don't see Nairobi by-election happening.
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On Wanjiru , bottom line it will be Handshake Vs Hustler Narrative , Wanjiru and Waweru are non factors . Nominations in 2022 will sort the worries . Meanwhile Wanjiru knows she is very lucky if all goes to her plans she will be a Governor for 1 year
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BBI lineup is well known. They are propping up regional kahunas to lock out Ruto. It ahat they are doing in this headlines and in Mdvd mother funeral.
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Name them
BBI lineup is well known. They are propping up regional kahunas to lock out Ruto. It ahat they are doing in this headlines and in Mdvd mother funeral.
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PORK Raila
VP Kalonzo
PM Pkenneth
DPM Mdvd
DPM Matiang'i
Name them
BBI lineup is well known. They are propping up regional kahunas to lock out Ruto. It ahat they are doing in this headlines and in Mdvd mother funeral.
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Hustler has been propped by covid misery big-time which not bankable with vaccine. Otherwise slumdwellers have been outright majority since 70s - cookie always crumble by tribe from 92 till today. NMS relative performance and Sonko-Waititu mess have irreparably tainted the hustler brand. If Sonko is damaged goods so is the brand - which people see as incompetence and indiscipline. Want to guess what Sonko vs Badi poll would say?
Tribe obviously is bigger than class. That why both camps have Kikuyus. Sonko slum appeal is a lie - he combined Kikuyu + Kamba + Somalis. He had mere 53% like Uhuru despite 70% being dirt-poor. Failure to pick Igathe or Kikuyu DG and he would have lost.
I expect PK to lead Waweru campaign - and remind Nairobians why it wrong to vote an ex-con or such questionable character. Majority Kikuyu will go Waweru cause PK. Kamba of course only follow Sonko as individual candidate himself not influencer - that why Raila beat Uhuru in Nairobi - cause Kalonzo is the national leader. Kavirondo crew of Aladwas and Aratis will do the rest.
Nairobi best bet is Kananu or Waweru to work harmoniously with NMS and MCA. Wanjiru or Sonko is same circus.
Mutura is a speaker - speaker and mca job is to keep governor in check - not to go in bed together. These are BASICS.
Election will be btw Waweru and Wanjiru - so GEMA vote will be split with Wanjiru getting more - and Wanjiru will need Sonko to win Kambas and slum dwellers -
Wanjiru-Sonko-Ruto will beat handshake. Sonko therefore is the decide - if he goes rogue and run as independent - handshake could win. If he backs Wanjiru - handshake will be in trouble - because both Wanjiru-Sonko can excite the Nairobi poor - waweru is like Gen Badi - zero charisma.
While Nairobi middle class appreciate Badi - clean streets - the poor want to hawk in those streets, erect vibandas.
Nairobi is the future of class conflict in kenya - poor versus rich - like in Latin America. The hustler versus dynastic is a little precursor to coming class conflict.
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PORK Raila Loser Lost 4 Times
VP Kalonzo Loser 3 Times
PM Pkenneth Loser Lost 2 Times
DPM Mdvd Loser Lost 3 Times
DPM Matiang'i -Not Tested a poor Politician
Name them
BBI lineup is well known. They are propping up regional kahunas to lock out Ruto. It ahat they are doing in this headlines and in Mdvd mother funeral.
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Seem Judas Sakaja has stopped being watermelon to drum Mdvd and BBI. He is funeral MC. Poor Moses Kuria and Karua might storm out as they mercilessly bash Ruto.
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Waweru, Matiangi, Badi, PK, etc - those have zero electable traits - the rest of what you are talking is confusing politics with private corporate leadership. Politics or public management is a different animal. The leadership required is ability to go slums and listen to them.
Hustler has been propped by covid misery big-time which not bankable with vaccine. Otherwise slumdwellers have been outright majority since 70s - cookie always crumble by tribe from 92 till today. NMS relative performance and Sonko-Waititu mess have irreparably tainted the hustler brand. If Sonko is damaged goods so is the brand - which people see as incompetence and indiscipline. Want to guess what Sonko vs Badi poll would say?
Tribe obviously is bigger than class. That why both camps have Kikuyus. Sonko slum appeal is a lie - he combined Kikuyu + Kamba + Somalis. He had mere 53% like Uhuru despite 70% being dirt-poor. Failure to pick Igathe or Kikuyu DG and he would have lost.
I expect PK to lead Waweru campaign - and remind Nairobians why it wrong to vote an ex-con or such questionable character. Majority Kikuyu will go Waweru cause PK. Kamba of course only follow Sonko as individual candidate himself not influencer - that why Raila beat Uhuru in Nairobi - cause Kalonzo is the national leader. Kavirondo crew of Aladwas and Aratis will do the rest.
Nairobi best bet is Kananu or Waweru to work harmoniously with NMS and MCA. Wanjiru or Sonko is same circus.
Mutura is a speaker - speaker and mca job is to keep governor in check - not to go in bed together. These are BASICS.
Election will be btw Waweru and Wanjiru - so GEMA vote will be split with Wanjiru getting more - and Wanjiru will need Sonko to win Kambas and slum dwellers -
Wanjiru-Sonko-Ruto will beat handshake. Sonko therefore is the decide - if he goes rogue and run as independent - handshake could win. If he backs Wanjiru - handshake will be in trouble - because both Wanjiru-Sonko can excite the Nairobi poor - waweru is like Gen Badi - zero charisma.
While Nairobi middle class appreciate Badi - clean streets - the poor want to hawk in those streets, erect vibandas.
Nairobi is the future of class conflict in kenya - poor versus rich - like in Latin America. The hustler versus dynastic is a little precursor to coming class conflict.
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He is really trying to play the Luhya candidate for western - I think he should do a name change to Wafula.
Seem Judas Sakaja has stopped being watermelon to drum Mdvd and BBI. He is funeral MC. Poor Moses Kuria and Karua might storm out as they mercilessly bash Ruto.
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Sakaja is an opportunist and taking long to pick his poison. He seem scared of Sifuna who might sneak in as Luhya favorite. Noone will follow the spineless watermelon sitting out every match.
He is really trying to play the Luhya candidate for western - I think he should do a name change to Wafula.
Seem Judas Sakaja has stopped being watermelon to drum Mdvd and BBI. He is funeral MC. Poor Moses Kuria and Karua might storm out as they mercilessly bash Ruto.
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PORK Raila
VP Kalonzo
PM Pkenneth
DPM Mdvd
DPM Matiang'i
Oops wrong it seems main agenda was not burying mama Hannah but burying Raira.
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PORK Raila
VP Kalonzo
PM Pkenneth
DPM Mdvd
DPM Matiang'i
Oops wrong it seems main agenda was not burying mama Hannah but burying Ruto.
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Well if you explain Sonko mere 53% - despite being native hustler - while Kidero could not speak Swahili let alone Sheng. Voting was strictly tribe not class. Don't make me dig up your MOAS.
Waweru was elected Dagoretti South MP - mostly slums - he is not plastic candidate like you been smearing him. Wanjiru level but well groomed. Don't forget entire Handshake crew would back him.
Waweru, Matiangi, Badi, PK, etc - those have zero electable traits - the rest of what you are talking is confusing politics with private corporate leadership. Politics or public management is a different animal. The leadership required is ability to go slums and listen to them.
Hustler has been propped by covid misery big-time which not bankable with vaccine. Otherwise slumdwellers have been outright majority since 70s - cookie always crumble by tribe from 92 till today. NMS relative performance and Sonko-Waititu mess have irreparably tainted the hustler brand. If Sonko is damaged goods so is the brand - which people see as incompetence and indiscipline. Want to guess what Sonko vs Badi poll would say?
Tribe obviously is bigger than class. That why both camps have Kikuyus. Sonko slum appeal is a lie - he combined Kikuyu + Kamba + Somalis. He had mere 53% like Uhuru despite 70% being dirt-poor. Failure to pick Igathe or Kikuyu DG and he would have lost.
I expect PK to lead Waweru campaign - and remind Nairobians why it wrong to vote an ex-con or such questionable character. Majority Kikuyu will go Waweru cause PK. Kamba of course only follow Sonko as individual candidate himself not influencer - that why Raila beat Uhuru in Nairobi - cause Kalonzo is the national leader. Kavirondo crew of Aladwas and Aratis will do the rest.
Nairobi best bet is Kananu or Waweru to work harmoniously with NMS and MCA. Wanjiru or Sonko is same circus.
Mutura is a speaker - speaker and mca job is to keep governor in check - not to go in bed together. These are BASICS.
Election will be btw Waweru and Wanjiru - so GEMA vote will be split with Wanjiru getting more - and Wanjiru will need Sonko to win Kambas and slum dwellers -
Wanjiru-Sonko-Ruto will beat handshake. Sonko therefore is the decide - if he goes rogue and run as independent - handshake could win. If he backs Wanjiru - handshake will be in trouble - because both Wanjiru-Sonko can excite the Nairobi poor - waweru is like Gen Badi - zero charisma.
While Nairobi middle class appreciate Badi - clean streets - the poor want to hawk in those streets, erect vibandas.
Nairobi is the future of class conflict in kenya - poor versus rich - like in Latin America. The hustler versus dynastic is a little precursor to coming class conflict.
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Kidero like many - bought ODM ticket -and used it. Sonko did not need Jubilee - Jubilee needed Sonko. Sonko won senate and governorship by his own sheer force. Kidero need a force.
Hustler movement will propel many Dennis Wawerus and Kideros - to win - people who cannot do it on their own - and therefore have a problem retaining it.
Well if you explain Sonko mere 53% - despite being native hustler - while Kidero could not speak Swahili let alone Sheng. Voting was strictly tribe not class. Don't make me dig up your MOAS.
Waweru was elected Dagoretti South MP - mostly slums - he is not plastic candidate like you been smearing him. Wanjiru level but well groomed. Don't forget entire Handshake crew would back him.
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The Ruto fatigue is already here. After COVID-19, the notion of Ruto presidency will start looking like a horrible idea.
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It will be Raila, Kalonzo, Mudavadi, Mutua, Peter Kenneth...and a sprinkling of other. If the thieves and hustlers can beat this team, there is no hope of Kenya as a country.
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It will be Raila, Kalonzo, Mudavadi, Mutua, Peter Kenneth...and a sprinkling of other. If the thieves and hustlers can beat this team, there is no hope of Kenya as a country.
All were beaten in 2017 and Kenya is still a country
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Yes kavirondo + Kamba propped Kidero. TRIBALISM 101. Sonko too could not win Nairobi outside of Jubilee or NASA. Even Makadara it was against Ndolo and Wathika split. Tribe remain king in Kenya - I see nothing convincing about class - anyone needs tribe first (aka strong party) - then mobilizing prowess of fork tongue, Sheng, matusi, lofty promises and heavy bribery - aka hustling.
Pick Wanjiru or any hustler - without big tribe backing - and bum! catastrophe. The choice of candidates says alot.
It too early with court cases - but if Handshake stick together - Sonko imaginary power will be exposed. Slum dwellers are not aliens but they belong to tribes.
Kidero like many - bought ODM ticket -and used it. Sonko did not need Jubilee - Jubilee needed Sonko. Sonko won senate and governorship by his own sheer force. Kidero need a force.
Hustler movement will propel many Dennis Wawerus and Kideros - to win - people who cannot do it on their own - and therefore have a problem retaining it.
Well if you explain Sonko mere 53% - despite being native hustler - while Kidero could not speak Swahili let alone Sheng. Voting was strictly tribe not class. Don't make me dig up your MOAS.
Waweru was elected Dagoretti South MP - mostly slums - he is not plastic candidate like you been smearing him. Wanjiru level but well groomed. Don't forget entire Handshake crew would back him.
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It will be Raila, Kalonzo, Mudavadi, Mutua, Peter Kenneth...and a sprinkling of other. If the thieves and hustlers can beat this team, there is no hope of Kenya as a country.
Don't be fooled by Ruto's well oiled propaganda machine. "Hustler nation" is 90% youtube and facebook bots.