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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: RV Pundit on December 16, 2020, 05:16:50 PM
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These ODM-Kieleweke morons should concentrate on issues..like Sonko corruption case and it would appear genuine.
Otherwise Nairobeans we elected Sonko knowing who he is.
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These ODM-Kieleweke morons should concentrate on issues..like Sonko corruption case and it would appear genuine.
Otherwise Nairobeans we elected Sonko knowing who he is.
Nah, Sonko is very unpopular, most Nairobians will be happy to see the end of his tenure.
Don't let the euphoria of Msambweni victory get to your head. Pick and choose your battles wisely.
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Yes army seems to be doing well but sonko cared about the poor..that matter..like pablo Escobar
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Yes army seems to be doing well but sonko cared about the poor..that matter..like pablo Escobar
Are chokora not poor? Has Sonko ever helped chokoras who incidentally I have to remind you are also Kenyans? Badi of NMS gave them jobs to help pave Nairobi walkways although ILO complained that, it was child labor.
You are naive to think our run of the mill political class "care about the poor"... they are a selfish lot... don't believe me? Read this:
https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2020-12-16-sonko-flew-daughter-to-us-on-taxpayers-money-mcas/
And by the way it is not "attack of democracy" but attack ON democracy. What is happening to your English ... becoming senile?
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When it becomes political unfortunately people take it in a different way. Kambas in Nairobi will still vote for him, the slum dwellers and Jubilees Ruto faction will atill vote for him. And if ODM throws the hat in the ring expect it to snow ball to a level it might affect the handshake. This is what wome of us wish for.
These ODM-Kieleweke morons should concentrate on issues..like Sonko corruption case and it would appear genuine.
Otherwise Nairobeans we elected Sonko knowing who he is.
Nah, Sonko is very unpopular, most Nairobians will be happy to see the end of his tenure.
Don't let the euphoria of Msambweni victory get to your head. Pick and choose your battles wisely.
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i think after Msambweni ODM might be hesitant about squaring it out in Nairobi with hustler. Or maybe Uhuru-Raila don't want a distracting by-election. Otherwise this mostly depends on Raila&Uhuru. Sonko has been throwing those brick-bats at Uhuru at every opportunity.
Naturally Pundit never saw a thug he didn't wish to die for: starting with Waititu, Obado, Lenolkulal, name it. What exactly is good about Sonko? Is it the incompetence, the teenage hangovers, rants & tantrums, bizarre dresscodes, uncouthness-foul mouth-insults, unsorted sleaze cases, running a parallel rescue service to his own admin, maintaining CECs and cabinet on temp contracts, failure to appoint DG, quarrels & antagonising NMS? This man-child should never have been elected governor.
Personally I wish he was impeached yesterday. Maybe they can confirm the Meru lady he appointed as DG then she completes his term. Prevail on DPP to drop her suit. This CLOWN should have been fired long ago.
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First I believe in DEMOCRACY. I believe in absolute democracy. I believe people have the right to elect Trump or Obama or Sonko or Pablo Escobar. It's foundation of my politics and my life - including engagement in nipate. I believe everyone has the right to think or say or do as they want.
Once that is clear - I believe Nairobi made a decision - very unanimous - they had many choice - Peter Kenneth was there - Miguna - Gakuo - Jimnah Mbaru - Kidero - all those are different talents.
And yet Sonko floored them - and won.
There is something Sonko represent - he represent the crude form of hustle movement - the non-tribal pro poor politics - that refocus on the real issues facing majority of Kenya - 60% of Nairobeans are slum dwellers. They don't care about many things - but not getting evicted on the land they occupy and call home is probably no 1. Sonko is there for them.
I believe Sonko should be allowed to run his course.
And then come 2022 like Trump - he can be fired or hired.
But everyone knows Sonko has NEVER been allowed to function. Therefore if by-election is held today - SONKO WIN AGAIN!
WACHA MADHARAU - ALL VOTES ARE EQUAL.
i think after Msambweni ODM might be hesitant about squaring it out in Nairobi with hustler. Or maybe Uhuru-Raila don't want a distracting by-election. Otherwise this mostly depends on Raila&Uhuru. Sonko has been throwing those brick-bats at Uhuru at every opportunity.
Naturally Pundit never saw a thug he didn't wish to die for: starting with Waititu, Obado, Lenolkulal, name it. What exactly is good about Sonko? Is it the incompetence, the teenage hangovers, tantrums, bizarre dresscodes, uncouthness-foul mouth-insults, unsorted sleaze cases, running a parallel service to his own medical, maintaining CECs and cabinet on temp contracts, failure to appoint DG, quarrels & antagonising NMS? This man-child should never have been elected governor.
Personally I wish he was impeached yesterday. Maybe they can confirm the Meru lady he appointed as DG then she completes his term. Prevail on DPP to drop her suit. This CLOWN should have been fired long ago.
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Sonko has grown impressively well. He has invested in ngumbaru and is now an above average public speaker.
I have never understood why we keep being told not to be emotional when you are being screwed. All over the world even so called great kick tantrums all over. Uhuru even was banging tables just same way Sonko was punching walls.
The 10 year rule no public office after an impeachment will finish any politician.
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Give sonko support and chance to mess up..we signed up for it..not Uhuru to supervise him.Sonko must complete 5yrs..tutaridisha yeye tenants ndio hiyo chapter ikamilike
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Sonko has grown impressively well. He has invested in ngumbaru and is now an above average public speaker.
I have never understood why we keep being told not to be emotional when you are being screwed. All over the world even so called great kick tantrums all over. Uhuru even was banging tables just same way Sonko was punching walls.
The 10 year rule no public office after an impeachment will finish any politician.
Please clarify - is this chapter 6? I doubt Sonko would be allowed to run again but he would definitely be influential - maybe back another hustler. Although he has a full closet of carcasses they can use to squeeze him into silence.
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Give sonko support and chance to mess up..we signed up for it..not Uhuru to supervise him.Sonko must complete 5yrs..tutaridisha yeye tenants ndio hiyo chapter ikamilike
Sonko troubles began by deluding himself he can outfox GEMA - particularly Uhuru - by bullying out Igathe. Recall after he refused to step down for PK and out-thugged him in mlolongo - the Kikuyu mafia of Gitaus and Murathes seconded Igathe as DG. Ruto himself did the intro. I see Sonko nightmare as self-made - akin to Ruto more or less - blackmailing GEMA in 2017 but later whining about fairness. You cannot outman a thug like Uhuru - unless like Ruto you are big fish but small omenas will be squashed. Sonko has outlasted Waititu by a year but is probably being trolled and ridiculed right now.
If by-election comes - Uhuru will pretend he has no candidate and leave non-Gema to square it out. In meantime he will use his puppet Speaker Ben Muturi? - to hand over few remaining functions to NMS. I mean with Handshake MCAs, County Speaker Muturi, Lusaka, Eugene lined up it easy-peasy. You see Uhuru candidate General Badi already won with flying colors :) It will be huge empty title for next governor.
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Well even Saddam and Osama were popular mashinani - but picked fights with the wrong guys. After routing Shiites and Saudis they got overconfident. That Sonko problem - thinking Uhuru is Gakuo or PK. Anyway democracy includes checks & balances- Sonko has been impeached by MCAs fair & square - and is now fairly represented at the Senate hearing by senior counsel in full media glare. That democratic enough for me.
Nairobi is getting okay service from NMS. If it was dead end I would care. With Badi why does Nairobi need this moron?
Of course your convenient definition of "democracy" is a yawn. Democracy apart from checks, balances and rules, include freedom of voters to choose without bribery, violence, etc. You have one eye closed here as you did in Kibra and Wajir. Say the brazen corruption of flying MCAs to Malindi or Lamu island - during impeachment vote :o :-\ - strange you don't see any issue with "democracy" there.
First I believe in DEMOCRACY. I believe in absolute democracy. I believe people have the right to elect Trump or Obama or Sonko or Pablo Escobar. It's foundation of my politics and my life - including engagement in nipate. I believe everyone has the right to think or say or do as they want.
Once that is clear - I believe Nairobi made a decision - very unanimous - they had many choice - Peter Kenneth was there - Miguna - Gakuo - Jimnah Mbaru - Kidero - all those are different talents.
And yet Sonko floored them - and won.
There is something Sonko represent - he represent the crude form of hustle movement - the non-tribal pro poor politics - that refocus on the real issues facing majority of Kenya - 60% of Nairobeans are slum dwellers. They don't care about many things - but not getting evicted on the land they occupy and call home is probably no 1. Sonko is there for them.
I believe Sonko should be allowed to run his course.
And then come 2022 like Trump - he can be fired or hired.
But everyone knows Sonko has NEVER been allowed to function. Therefore if by-election is held today - SONKO WIN AGAIN!
WACHA MADHARAU - ALL VOTES ARE EQUAL.
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Sonko was overrated and he started believing he is also presidential material. He was too busy stealing public money and displaying it to the public. You do not steal and start abusing the system. It got him by the balls and if Uhuru is serious he can land this fwllow where he belongs in Shimo La Tewa. After signing off his powers to NMS, Sonko was a lame duck and he should have accepted his fate. He is today the only governor without portfolio. :D :D :D
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Sonko troubles indeed start and ends with GEMA feel entitled to Nairobi governorship on account of their numbers and economic muscle. The rest are details. But I don't see a GEMA governor soon because GEMA have become insular - and yet they will max out at 30%.
Sonko troubles began by deluding himself he can outfox GEMA - particularly Uhuru - by bullying out Igathe. Recall after he refused to step down for PK and out-thugged him in mlolongo - the Kikuyu mafia of Gitaus and Murathes seconded Igathe as DG. Ruto himself did the intro. I see Sonko nightmare as self-made - akin to Ruto more or less - blackmailing GEMA in 2017 but later whining about fairness. You cannot outman a thug like Uhuru - unless like Ruto you are big fish but small omenas will be squashed. Sonko has outlasted Waititu by a year but is probably being trolled and ridiculed right now.
If by-election comes - Uhuru will pretend he has no candidate and leave non-Gema to square it out. In meantime he will use his puppet Speaker Ben Muturi? - to hand over few remaining functions to NMS. I mean with Handshake MCAs, County Speaker Muturi, Lusaka, Eugene lined up it easy-peasy. You see Uhuru candidate General Badi already won with flying colors :) It will be huge empty title for next governor.
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But surely Sonko used to that...before he was elected.
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Eng Kibicho laywer from Ushago prosecute Sonko case.
I think Sonko can still win this - ODM are no longer sure if they are coming or going
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Eng Kibicho laywer from Ushago prosecute Sonko case.
I think Sonko can still win this - ODM are no longer sure if they are coming or going
If they are wise enough its now worth risking but then again they are known to be poor in strategy
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Yes they are screwing it up. It becoming embarrassing. Why have someone like Mechanical Engineer Kibicho doing your political job. The guy is obviously book intelligent to get PHd in Engineering but politics is not engineering.
Uhuru has to re-evaluate his advisors - and have more people like the ever present Joseph Kinyua - long serving finance PS - on the forefront - than the jokers he has.
Get Joseph Kinyua, Biwott daughter Esther Koimett and many of the career public servants who know how to get work done with little drama.
Eng Kibicho laywer from Ushago prosecute Sonko case.
I think Sonko can still win this - ODM are no longer sure if they are coming or going
If they are wise enough its now worth risking but then again they are known to be poor in strategy
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Ive been evaluating Kenyatta the last couple of days , I ve seen the people he has put in the office of the president ,apart from Gecaga and Kinyua the rest the Waitas, Mbugua, Muturi, Kariuki etc there is a big minus you can see where the problem is.
Now come to his political advisors Murathe and Tuju who are running the Jubilee party he seems only to be listening to them where party matters are concerned and you have the biggest Raila fans their intention seems to be giving Raila Jubilee for posterity.
Then you go back to history you realize that Uhuru single handedly killed K.A.N.U and sadly th same way he is killing Jubilee . There will be a massive walkout as you know Jubilee already lost in ward elections in Muranga and Naivasha and pro Ruto people won.
Again back to history TNA as a party was not functional he had left the party running to Sakaja and Oloo , no party elections no nothing, thats how he mismanages parties.
One thing he is really lucky of is Ruto will become the next president and thus wont go after the looting he , his family and friends have done. If the hustler nation was under a roguw person like Miguna post presidency would be a nightmare for him. Ruto adores Uhuru ,its evident apart from politics they are personal friends.
Yes they are screwing it up. It becoming embarrassing. Why have someone like Mechanical Engineer Kibicho doing your political job. The guy is obviously book intelligent to get PHd in Engineering but politics is not engineering.
Uhuru has to re-evaluate his advisors - and have more people like the ever present Joseph Kinyua - long serving finance PS - on the forefront - than the jokers he has.
Get Joseph Kinyua, Biwott daughter Esther Koimett and many of the career public servants who know how to get work done with little drama.
Eng Kibicho laywer from Ushago prosecute Sonko case.
I think Sonko can still win this - ODM are no longer sure if they are coming or going
If they are wise enough its now worth risking but then again they are known to be poor in strategy
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Uhuru has allowed idiots like murathe to advise him.Moi was not educated but got the best brains and lead for 24yrs.Politics is both muscle and intellectual
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You underrate GEMA... but empirical evidence show they are very organized in boardroom politics. Non-GEMA beat them in streets but scheming and backstabbing they wear the crown. During NARA sagana Miguna told us how they made Raila wail like a kid :) - hehe - and Ranneberger wrote cables about Uhuru cold, calculating, scheming nature according to Wikileaks. So right now- while you don't see a GEMA governor in horizon - that is moot because Badi is Uhuru boy. So they already have it - not if or buts.
What next? There will be long court battles as Sonko appeals, then Meru lady already nominated by Sonko re-appears, maybe Igathe shows up claiming to be still DG. Might be a while before a by-election is called.
Meantime- if county speaker acts, expect remaining functions to be transferred to NMS. Potentially court battles could drag to 2022 - maybe Sonko remains as lameduck governor - MCAs supermajority can pass budget and strip him naked. Either way I see Uhuru and GEMA as using Somali guy as new front to continue controlling the city. Badi with smooth sailing will get very popular as people sneer at the feuding politicians. Badi is the fresh, apolitical outsider.
Respect GEMA... they have not held power merely by happenstance. Way you praise Ruto, Moi and Kalenjin - GEMA are twice as good. Uhuru is running Nairobi like a marionette - Ruto once tried to hawk Eugene and flopped. 2 years ago you were mocking CS Macharia as exemplary incompetent GEMA - how is it looking now? The city is shining and you have lite-rail to airport.
Sonko troubles indeed start and ends with GEMA feel entitled to Nairobi governorship on account of their numbers and economic muscle. The rest are details. But I don't see a GEMA governor soon because GEMA have become insular - and yet they will max out at 30%.
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Pundit as Raila and Ruto outdo each other to impress GEMA - i wouldn't be surprised to see them nail governor in 2022.
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Sonko was overrated and he started believing he is also presidential material. He was too busy stealing public money and displaying it to the public. You do not steal and start abusing the system. It got him by the balls and if Uhuru is serious he can land this fwllow where he belongs in Shimo La Tewa. After signing off his powers to NMS, Sonko was a lame duck and he should have accepted his fate. He is today the only governor without portfolio. :D :D :D
With a mile-long rapsheet - drugs and corruption - Sonko either melt away silently or end up in double tragedy. For a young, early-success hustler role-model he has turned out to be quite the anticlimax. At least Joho seems to know which side his bread is buttered. Anyway I see the "abstaining" Sakaja as prepping for a hard run for it. Sakaja strikes one as a heartless, backstabbing hypocrite. Interesting days.
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Pundit as Raila and Ruto outdo each other to impress GEMA - i wouldn't be surprised to see them nail governor in 2022.
You seem not to learn, then when we correct you , you say you hate some of us for obvoius reasons.
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Pundit as Raila and Ruto outdo each other to impress GEMA - i wouldn't be surprised to see them nail governor in 2022.
You seem not to learn, then when we correct you , you say you hate some of us for obvoius reasons.
With your reports of public news you are yet to teach me anything. I accept when am wrong - like we have done in Diani. This impeachment is not a "victory in disguise" but another hustler tragedy. Shakespearean variety. Some of us saw these Sonko-Waititu disasters all the way in 2017: I was disturbed by the rise of "hustlers" as Pundit cheered them - see how great they are now.
Sonko tried to outfox Uhuru & GEMA - instead his ass has been handed to him all the way. I know you are still drunk with small Diani win :) - but the jury is still out on the hustler in chief.
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Robina , first this is a phyrric victory, tomorrow its highly possible that the courts will overturn the impeachment further if they go the election route still sonko might win.
Secondly you talk of GEMA out of the so called 11 GEMA counties woth exception of Nairobi who abstained 5 voted for Sonko , Laikipia, Nakuru, Lamu, Meru and Tharaka Nithi.
Now going to elections Gema in Nairobi would vote anti Raila and now by extension anti Uhuru. There is a reason Jubilee lost ward elections to Ruto allies in Muranga and Naivasha. In Kahawa wendani they used Kibra tactics to have Ochieng go through.
And please stop equating Grma to Uhuru .Even Ngunjiri Wambugu said yes there is something wrong in Jubilee and admitted Jubilee has lost touch with the ground. But for you your ground is senate and national assembly..
Wake up Robina when you realise what is happening on ground you will appreaciate what I have been preaching you since time memorial.
Pundit as Raila and Ruto outdo each other to impress GEMA - i wouldn't be surprised to see them nail governor in 2022.
You seem not to learn, then when we correct you , you say you hate some of us for obvoius reasons.
With your reports of public news you are yet to teach me anything. I accept when am wrong - like we have done in Diani. This impeachment is not a "victory in disguise" but another hustler tragedy. Shakespearean variety. Some of us saw these Sonko-Waititu disasters all the way in 2017: I was disturbed by the rise of "hustlers" as Pundit cheered them - see how great they are now.
Sonko tried to outfox Uhuru & GEMA - instead his ass has been handed to him all the way. I know you are still drunk with small Diani win :) - but the jury is still out on the hustler in chief.
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If there is a by election, how will Sonko win ? You mean you can be impeached for stealing and be on the next ballot? Sonko is done. He makes a move and he will end up in jail or dead. Free advice to Sonko, go away quietly.
Robina , first this is a phyrric victory, tomorrow its highly possible that the courts will overturn the impeachment further if they go the election route still sonko might win.
Secondly you talk of GEMA out of the so called 11 GEMA counties woth exception of Nairobi who abstained 5 voted for Sonko , Laikipia, Nakuru, Lamu, Meru and Tharaka Nithi.
Now going to elections Gema in Nairobi would vote anti Raila and now by extension anti Uhuru. There is a reason Jubilee lost ward elections to Ruto allies in Muranga and Naivasha. In Kahawa wendani they used Kibra tactics to have Otieno go through.
And please stop equating Grma to Uhuru .Even Ngunjiri Wambugu said yes there is something wrong in Jubilee and admitted Jubilee has lost touch with the ground. But for you your ground is senate and national assembly..
Wake up Robina when you realise what is happening on ground you will appreaciate what I have been preaching you since time memorial.
Pundit as Raila and Ruto outdo each other to impress GEMA - i wouldn't be surprised to see them nail governor in 2022.
You seem not to learn, then when we correct you , you say you hate some of us for obvoius reasons.
With your reports of public news you are yet to teach me anything. I accept when am wrong - like we have done in Diani. This impeachment is not a "victory in disguise" but another hustler tragedy. Shakespearean variety. Some of us saw these Sonko-Waititu disasters all the way in 2017: I was disturbed by the rise of "hustlers" as Pundit cheered them - see how great they are now.
Sonko tried to outfox Uhuru & GEMA - instead his ass has been handed to him all the way. I know you are still drunk with small Diani win :) - but the jury is still out on the hustler in chief.
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What prevents him from vying ?
If there is a by election, how will Sonko win ? You mean you can be impeached for stealing and be on the next ballot? Sonko is done. He makes a move and he will end up in jail or dead. Free advice to Sonko, go away quietly.
Robina , first this is a phyrric victory, tomorrow its highly possible that the courts will overturn the impeachment further if they go the election route still sonko might win.
Secondly you talk of GEMA out of the so called 11 GEMA counties woth exception of Nairobi who abstained 5 voted for Sonko , Laikipia, Nakuru, Lamu, Meru and Tharaka Nithi.
Now going to elections Gema in Nairobi would vote anti Raila and now by extension anti Uhuru. There is a reason Jubilee lost ward elections to Ruto allies in Muranga and Naivasha. In Kahawa wendani they used Kibra tactics to have Otieno go through.
And please stop equating Grma to Uhuru .Even Ngunjiri Wambugu said yes there is something wrong in Jubilee and admitted Jubilee has lost touch with the ground. But for you your ground is senate and national assembly..
Wake up Robina when you realise what is happening on ground you will appreaciate what I have been preaching you since time memorial.
Pundit as Raila and Ruto outdo each other to impress GEMA - i wouldn't be surprised to see them nail governor in 2022.
You seem not to learn, then when we correct you , you say you hate some of us for obvoius reasons.
With your reports of public news you are yet to teach me anything. I accept when am wrong - like we have done in Diani. This impeachment is not a "victory in disguise" but another hustler tragedy. Shakespearean variety. Some of us saw these Sonko-Waititu disasters all the way in 2017: I was disturbed by the rise of "hustlers" as Pundit cheered them - see how great they are now.
Sonko tried to outfox Uhuru & GEMA - instead his ass has been handed to him all the way. I know you are still drunk with small Diani win :) - but the jury is still out on the hustler in chief.
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Ive been evaluating Kenyatta the last couple of days , I ve seen the people he has put in the office of the president ,apart from Gecaga and Kinyua the rest the Waitas, Mbugua, Muturi, Kariuki etc there is a big minus you can see where the problem is.
Now come to his political advisors Murathe and Tuju who are running the Jubilee party he seems only to be listening to them where party matters are concerned and you have the biggest Raila fans their intention seems to be giving Raila Jubilee for posterity.
Then you go back to history you realize that Uhuru single handedly killed K.A.N.U and sadly th same way he is killing Jubilee . There will be a massive walkout as you know Jubilee already lost in ward elections in Muranga and Naivasha and pro Ruto people won.
Again back to history TNA as a party was not functional he had left the party running to Sakaja and Oloo , no party elections no nothing, thats how he mismanages parties.
One thing he is really lucky of is Ruto will become the next president and thus wont go after the looting he , his family and friends have done. If the hustler nation was under a roguw person like Miguna post presidency would be a nightmare for him. Ruto adores Uhuru ,its evident apart from politics they are personal friends.
Wow, where does one start with rebutting you. We would need to agree on basics- like a win is a win, a loss is a loss. NUMBERS. E.g ODM lost Msambweni, hustler won. See? - no ifs or buts. "Win by losing" is new version of spin by Pundit.
Now impeachment: if Sonko survived the floor you would be dancing here and asking Robina to learn the lesson. But he LOST - donge? Spin works where there is vague argument not raw numbers. I cannot spin Diani - you cannot spin impeachment. Sonko by small chance can be saved by court - but he is been done for a while now. He is out on bail, suspended, hostile assembly, name it. We are merely discussing the fate of his lameduck office- NMS already ate his lunch.
What - hustler candidates won in Naivasha and Kahawa? :o Your duplicity is amazing. No, there were no such candidates- please share the threads here. This is Bondo nonsense where winners become hustler after the fact yet they had Raila portraits during campaigns. Or Wiper guy in Embakasi is somehow a hustler win :) Ai yawa, hio hatuelewi.
Uhuru destroys parties... really? How many parties has Uhuru been in? Kanu, TNA, Jubilee. How about Ruto? Raila? Oh, who dumped Kanu first - Uhuru or Ruto? And whose idea was it to dissolve TNA and URP into the Jubilee fat elephant? Wait- are you sure there was democracy in URP?? How did they handle poor Isaac :) - anyone asked his opinion about dissolution?
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Actually Sonko got 6 more years because everyone saw Uhuru machination. Just hold another election in Nairobi so you can understand just how angry kenyans are on Uhuru, Raila and BBI.
People elected Sonko knowing his weakness. And it was not a fluke. They first elected Sonko as Senator...with highest votes...then next governor. Before that Mp.
Just like they elected Uhuru knowing he was a Mungiki Leader charged with war crimes. Sonko is local criminal in comparison.
Ruto just got a footing in Nairobi on his own. Naturally he would have needed GEMA. Now he doesnt. He just need to re-tool with Sonko and take over the Nairobi hustler movement.
By mid 2021 - Handshake crew will understand - if they didn't understand from by election - just how unpopular they are.
Ive been evaluating Kenyatta the last couple of days , I ve seen the people he has put in the office of the president ,apart from Gecaga and Kinyua the rest the Waitas, Mbugua, Muturi, Kariuki etc there is a big minus you can see where the problem is.
Now come to his political advisors Murathe and Tuju who are running the Jubilee party he seems only to be listening to them where party matters are concerned and you have the biggest Raila fans their intention seems to be giving Raila Jubilee for posterity.
Then you go back to history you realize that Uhuru single handedly killed K.A.N.U and sadly th same way he is killing Jubilee . There will be a massive walkout as you know Jubilee already lost in ward elections in Muranga and Naivasha and pro Ruto people won.
Again back to history TNA as a party was not functional he had left the party running to Sakaja and Oloo , no party elections no nothing, thats how he mismanages parties.
One thing he is really lucky of is Ruto will become the next president and thus wont go after the looting he , his family and friends have done. If the hustler nation was under a roguw person like Miguna post presidency would be a nightmare for him. Ruto adores Uhuru ,its evident apart from politics they are personal friends.
Wow, where does one start with rebutting you. We would need to agree on basics- like a win is a win, a loss is a loss. NUMBERS. E.g ODM lost Msambweni, hustler won. See? - no ifs or buts. "Win by losing" is new version of spin by Pundit.
Now impeachment: if Sonko survived the floor you would be dancing here and asking Robina to learn the lesson. But he LOST - donge? Spin works where there is vague argument not raw numbers. I cannot spin Diani - you cannot spin impeachment. Sonko by small chance can be saved by court - but he is been done for a while now. He is out on bail, suspended, hostile assembly, name it. We are merely discussing the fate of his lameduck office- NMS already ate his lunch.
What - hustler candidates won in Naivasha and Kahawa? :o Your duplicity is amazing. No, there were no such candidates- please share the threads here. This is Bondo nonsense where winners become hustler after the fact yet they had Raila portraits during campaigns. Or Wiper guy in Embakasi is somehow a hustler win :) Ai yawa, hio hatuelewi.
Uhuru destroys parties... really? How many parties has Uhuru been in? Kanu, TNA, Jubilee. How about Ruto? Raila? Oh, who dumped Kanu first - Uhuru or Ruto? And whose idea was it to dissolve TNA and URP into the Jubilee fat elephant? Wait- are you sure there was democracy in URP?? How did they handle poor Isaac :) - anyone asked his opinion about dissolution?
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Ohoo please idiot. Nearly 0.5M out of 5M kikuyus then were displaced just 5yrs into Kibaki regime. That is one in every 10 kikuyu property looted, burnt, and suffered many losses. Thanks to Kibaki incompetence and lack of leadership.Uhuru was suppose to redeem that - and he did great in 5yrs of Jubilee - but now - he is undoing everything - and starting to look at politically incompetent as Kibaki.
Now let see how handshake crew will move here...Sakaja wants to be backed...Waweru wants in..Kidero might come for more beating or who will ODM fill?
None of those have the magic and authenticity sonko draws from Nairobi poor.
It will end in tears.
You underrate GEMA... but empirical evidence show they are very organized in boardroom politics. Non-GEMA beat them in streets but scheming and backstabbing they wear the crown. During NARA sagana Miguna told us how they made Raila wail like a kid :) - hehe - and Ranneberger wrote cables about Uhuru cold, calculating, scheming nature according to Wikileaks. So right now- while you don't see a GEMA governor in horizon - that is moot because Badi is Uhuru boy. So they already have it - not if or buts.
What next? There will be long court battles as Sonko appeals, then Meru lady already nominated by Sonko re-appears, maybe Igathe shows up claiming to be still DG. Might be a while before a by-election is called.
Meantime- if county speaker acts, expect remaining functions to be transferred to NMS. Potentially court battles could drag to 2022 - maybe Sonko remains as lameduck governor - MCAs supermajority can pass budget and strip him naked. Either way I see Uhuru and GEMA as using Somali guy as new front to continue controlling the city. Badi with smooth sailing will get very popular as people sneer at the feuding politicians. Badi is the fresh, apolitical outsider.
Respect GEMA... they have not held power merely by happenstance. Way you praise Ruto, Moi and Kalenjin - GEMA are twice as good. Uhuru is running Nairobi like a marionette - Ruto once tried to hawk Eugene and flopped. 2 years ago you were mocking CS Macharia as exemplary incompetent GEMA - how is it looking now? The city is shining and you have lite-rail to airport.
Sonko troubles indeed start and ends with GEMA feel entitled to Nairobi governorship on account of their numbers and economic muscle. The rest are details. But I don't see a GEMA governor soon because GEMA have become insular - and yet they will max out at 30%.
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Noway - here are a few soundbites of the vibrant democracy in Ruto's parties. Na mnalia Jubilee :)
Eyeing 2012, Ruto team takes over UDM party
By | November 18th 2010 at 00:00:00 GMT +0300
https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/the-standard/article/2000022719/eyeing-2012-ruto-team-takes-over-udm-party
Ruto eyes new party after quitting UDM
Monday, January 09, 2012
https://nation.africa/kenya/news/politics/ruto-eyes-new-party-after-quitting-udm--795874
Ruto battles in Jubilee rekindle past fights for parties
The DP's career is laden with fights to control political parties
https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2020-04-17-ruto-battles-in-jubilee-rekindle-past-fights-for-parties/
Hehe - If you want to look for the unprincipled, no-holds-barred, bareknuckles anything-to-win - look at Raila or closer home at your precious Ruto. Kenyatta beats them in looting but not in raw hunger for power. I mean the man had been conviced to step down for Mdvd. While Ruto would trade his kids for president. Uhuru is a happy-go-luck silver platter kid: he inherited Kanu from Nyayo and was de facto consensual chairman beating Biwott by a mile. Then Mt Kenya from Kibaki. Easy-peasy. But you'd be hard pressed to finger a fair win by Ruto - he cheated Saina, Chesire in Eldoret; Mutula Kilonzo Snr for Kanu SG; brazen Mau and ICC propaganda to demonize Raila in Kalenjin; deployed mlolongo smokescreen to kidnap Jubilee and Mt Kenya.
But he is your hero and Uhuru is the problem... Akipenda, chongo huita kengeza"
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You gotta admit there is a FINESSE in the Kibaki or Uhuru easing into power. I mean Moi had to choke in their shit to get in - but Uhuru and Kibaki it almost seamless. Compare Raila or Ruto "genius", energy, diligence, hardwork, yaawwn - they still falling over themselves to curry Uhuru favor. It disingenuous to pretend GEMA are not smooth operators. Literally few hours ago - it was non-GEMA tearing each other in Sonko impeachment - fighting GEMA battles. Give credit where it's due. I don't like it either but it is what it is.
Now BBI windfall all indicators are Ruto won't oppose. It "untenable" to oppose due to GEMA centrality in 2022 maneno - according to Sudi.
Ohoo please idiot. Nearly 0.5M out of 5M kikuyus then were displaced just 5yrs into Kibaki regime. That is one in every 10 kikuyu property looted, burnt, and suffered many losses. Thanks to Kibaki incompetence and lack of leadership.Uhuru was suppose to redeem that - and he did great in 5yrs of Jubilee - but now - he is undoing everything - and starting to look at politically incompetent as Kibaki.
Now let see how handshake crew will move here...Sakaja wants to be backed...Waweru wants in..Kidero might come for more beating or who will ODM fill?
None of those have the magic and authenticity sonko draws from Nairobi poor.
It will end in tears.
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The double standards. Ruto "formed" UDM with Kirwa and young KANU MPs who wanted to reform OLD KANU in 1998 - a year after being elected into parliament. Moi eventually tapped him to gov (old imperial constitution you want to bring) as Ass Minister and eventually got into Kitchen Cabinet. He stayed in KANU until he went to ODM. And went relationship went sour..he tried to get UDM back from caretake late Gen Koech..and that didn't happen..he formed URP that went into Jubilee Coalition..later collapsed to Jubilee.
What is democracy to you. That people should not compete and beat or even crush their opponents.
Noway - here are a few soundbites of the vibrant democracy in Ruto's parties. Na mnalia Jubilee :)
Eyeing 2012, Ruto team takes over UDM party
By | November 18th 2010 at 00:00:00 GMT +0300
https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/the-standard/article/2000022719/eyeing-2012-ruto-team-takes-over-udm-party
Ruto eyes new party after quitting UDM
Monday, January 09, 2012
https://nation.africa/kenya/news/politics/ruto-eyes-new-party-after-quitting-udm--795874
Ruto battles in Jubilee rekindle past fights for parties
The DP's career is laden with fights to control political parties
https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2020-04-17-ruto-battles-in-jubilee-rekindle-past-fights-for-parties/
Hehe - If you want to look for the unprincipled, no-holds-barred, bareknuckles anything-to-win - look at Raila or closer home at your precious Ruto. Kenyatta beats them in looting but not in raw hunger for power. I mean the man had been conviced to step down for Mdvd. While Ruto would trade his kids for president. Uhuru is a happy-go-luck silver platter kid: he inherited Kanu from Nyayo and was de facto consensual chairman beating Biwott by a mile. Then Mt Kenya from Kibaki. Easy-peasy. But you'd be hard pressed to finger a fair win by Ruto - he cheated Saina, Chesire in Eldoret; Mutula Kilonzo Snr for Kanu SG; brazen Mau and ICC propaganda to demonize Raila in Kalenjin; deployed mlolongo smokescreen to kidnap Jubilee and Mt Kenya.
But he is your hero and Uhuru is the problem... Akipenda, chongo huita kengeza"
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What finesses when GEMA has almost 30% of the vote and just need 20% of the vote nationally - and the same is true in Nairobi - and yet because of their insularity - none of them stand a chance to win in Nairobi. Moi came from Tugen - very small sub-tribe. BBC when I started to listen to it in 1990s use to say ' Kabila ndogo la Moi'.
And when Kibaki won - in just 5yrs - Kikuyus were being hunted like stray dogs all over kenya. It took international mediation to save kenya.
That is NOT leadership. That is NOT winning.
What will you say when 10% of Tutsi sit on 90 of Hutu for 500yrs. or Tigrays running Ethiopia for 30yrs yet they are what 5-10% of the population. That is BRILLIANCE. Show me one brilliant leader in GEMA :) :) - very insular group of lazy idiots mostly - that has done great injustice on their own people.
GEMA are largest tribal grouping - by default they are suppose to win - Just make friends with one or two tribes.
You gotta admit there is a FINESSE in the Kibaki or Uhuru easing into power. I mean Moi had to choke in their shit to get in - but Uhuru and Kibaki it almost seamless. Compare Raila or Ruto "genius", energy, diligence, hardwork, yaawwn - they still falling over themselves to curry Uhuru favor. It disingenuous to pretend GEMA are not smooth operators. Literally few hours ago - it was non-GEMA tearing each other in Sonko impeachment - fighting GEMA battles. Give credit where it's due. I don't like it either but it is what it is.
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That all true - Ruto's sterling history in politics is littered with party debris. Same as Raila. But not Uhuru. This was a rebuttal to Nowayhaha criticism of Uhuru. Generally I find Kenyatta to be golden-spoon so it apples n oranges to compare with Ruto or Raila.
The double standards. Ruto "formed" UDM with Kirwa and young KANU MPs who wanted to reform OLD KANU in 1998 - a year after being elected into parliament. Moi eventually tapped him to gov (old imperial constitution you want to bring) as Ass Minister and eventually got into Kitchen Cabinet. He stayed in KANU until he went to ODM. And went relationship went sour..he tried to get UDM back from caretake late Gen Koech..and that didn't happen..he formed URP that went into Jubilee Coalition..later collapsed to Jubilee.
What is democracy to you. That people should not compete and beat or even crush their opponents.
Noway - here are a few soundbites of the vibrant democracy in Ruto's parties. Na mnalia Jubilee :)
Eyeing 2012, Ruto team takes over UDM party
By | November 18th 2010 at 00:00:00 GMT +0300
https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/the-standard/article/2000022719/eyeing-2012-ruto-team-takes-over-udm-party
Ruto eyes new party after quitting UDM
Monday, January 09, 2012
https://nation.africa/kenya/news/politics/ruto-eyes-new-party-after-quitting-udm--795874
Ruto battles in Jubilee rekindle past fights for parties
The DP's career is laden with fights to control political parties
https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2020-04-17-ruto-battles-in-jubilee-rekindle-past-fights-for-parties/
Hehe - If you want to look for the unprincipled, no-holds-barred, bareknuckles anything-to-win - look at Raila or closer home at your precious Ruto. Kenyatta beats them in looting but not in raw hunger for power. I mean the man had been conviced to step down for Mdvd. While Ruto would trade his kids for president. Uhuru is a happy-go-luck silver platter kid: he inherited Kanu from Nyayo and was de facto consensual chairman beating Biwott by a mile. Then Mt Kenya from Kibaki. Easy-peasy. But you'd be hard pressed to finger a fair win by Ruto - he cheated Saina, Chesire in Eldoret; Mutula Kilonzo Snr for Kanu SG; brazen Mau and ICC propaganda to demonize Raila in Kalenjin; deployed mlolongo smokescreen to kidnap Jubilee and Mt Kenya.
But he is your hero and Uhuru is the problem... Akipenda, chongo huita kengeza"
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Uhuru is a mlevi..not a leader. Even Ruto tell people that. He is just born lucky - with kenyatta name, bottomless money and GEMA ancestry. Kalenjin nickname for him - is the born lucky. Trump was born with a silver spoon but at least he has his own way around things. Uhuru is just a tool - Moi used and later Ruto fashioned. The idiot at one point signed off his PORK to maDVD :). Ruto had to save the situation. The man chain smokes and drinks like an idiot. The only time he stay sober or doesn't smoke are during public rallies...otherwise in his default mode..it's one cigarette to start another one in between sips of alcohol. Sonko at least is self-made and his drug problems a little excusable - coz he can function while being drunk like most kenyans.
Ruto if given a chance - you'll see what Kenya has been missing - real leadership. Not a drunkard who put kenyan on auto-pilot mode and dozes off - only waking up when plane hit turbulences.
That all true - Ruto's sterling history in politics is littered with party debris. Same as Raila. But not Uhuru. This was a rebuttal to Nowayhaha criticism of Uhuru. Generally I find Kenyatta to be golden-spoon so it apples n oranges to compare with Ruto or Raila.
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GEMA chased mzungu and negotiated independence... when Nandi or Maasai were fighting for decades aimlessly with no objective. Cause GEMA deployed some smarts not just arrows. Anyway I obviously can see GEMA "merits" now cause they are aiding Raila. You see them as useless, evil traitors... Of course today you are sure they are almost 30% :) - you been saying it 22% for a while now - since they knived Ruto in the back. You may need to decide who you loathe more - GEMA or Jaluo. Either way you are headed to upinzani or some mkia at best. I even think it courtesy of "GEMA finesse" that your greedy impatient boy still enjoys some 10% crumbs in GoK despite his tamtrums. If it was Raila it would be 0%.
Let see who milks what of GEMA 30% in 2022. :)
What finesses when GEMA has almost 30% of the vote and just need 20% of the vote nationally - and the same is true in Nairobi - and yet because of their insularity - none of them stand a chance to win in Nairobi. Moi came from Tugen - very small sub-tribe. BBC when I started to listen to it in 1990s use to say ' Kabila ndogo la Moi'.
And when Kibaki won - in just 5yrs - Kikuyus were being hunted like stray dogs all over kenya. It took international mediation to save kenya.
That is NOT leadership. That is NOT winning.
What will you say when 10% of Tutsi sit on 90 of Hutu for 500yrs. or Tigrays running Ethiopia for 30yrs yet they are what 5-10% of the population. That is BRILLIANCE. Show me one brilliant leader in GEMA :) :) - very insular group of lazy idiots mostly - that has done great injustice on their own people.
GEMA are largest tribal grouping - by default they are suppose to win - Just make friends with one or two tribes.
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My friend I don't delete my threads. You can find my opinion on things. I support people with their weakness. And I am not afraid to say them. I know Ruto for example is such a prolific thief. I believe if elected PORK - he will become the richest man in history of Kenya.
If you check my record 1) I have held the same opinion on Uhuru - drunkard - financier of mungiki - but brilliant (there is ivy league shine) on macro-economics) 2) GEMA leadership is bereft of talent - it's mostly insular and has done injustice to their population.
I tell you tribes with 30% dominance like Ethiopia Amharas have ruled Ethiopia for 500yrs. In Uganda - the country name and language - come from Buganda. Buganda are merely 20 percent or so of the population - but like every Ethiopian speak amharic - every uganda speak buganda - in kenya it could have been kikuyus - not even kiswahili - if they were not insular (almost introverted) - but were out there influencing things in positive kind of way.
GEMA leadership has failed them. GEMA people are very hardworking lot. The leadership has failed them. I see some signs of revolt finally - because they have brilliant young folks like Ndindi or Ichungwa - and gazillion out there - who are out of politics- that can do great for their people.
I am not going to sugar coat my opinions because 1) I am not running for any leadership position 2) It just against my concept of 'Me'
GEMA chased mzungu and negotiated independence... when Nandi or Maasai were fighting for decades aimlessly with no objective. Cause GEMA deployed some smarts not just arrows. Anyway I obviously can see GEMA "merits" now cause they are aiding Raila. You see them as useless, evil traitors... Of course today you are sure they are almost 30% :) - you been saying it 22% for a while now - since they knived Ruto in the back. You may need to decide who you loathe more - GEMA or Jaluo. Either way you are headed to upinzani or some mkia at best. I even think it courtesy of "GEMA finesse" that your greedy impatient boy still enjoys some 10% crumbs in GoK despite his tamtrums. If it was Raila it would be 0%.
Let see who milks what of GEMA 30% in 2022. :)
What finesses when GEMA has almost 30% of the vote and just need 20% of the vote nationally - and the same is true in Nairobi - and yet because of their insularity - none of them stand a chance to win in Nairobi. Moi came from Tugen - very small sub-tribe. BBC when I started to listen to it in 1990s use to say ' Kabila ndogo la Moi'.
And when Kibaki won - in just 5yrs - Kikuyus were being hunted like stray dogs all over kenya. It took international mediation to save kenya.
That is NOT leadership. That is NOT winning.
What will you say when 10% of Tutsi sit on 90 of Hutu for 500yrs. or Tigrays running Ethiopia for 30yrs yet they are what 5-10% of the population. That is BRILLIANCE. Show me one brilliant leader in GEMA :) :) - very insular group of lazy idiots mostly - that has done great injustice on their own people.
GEMA are largest tribal grouping - by default they are suppose to win - Just make friends with one or two tribes.
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The core of this is true but coated with hubris. Uhuru is lazy yes but the brilliance is more than you admit. The cunning while as fierce as Raila or Ruto is more stealth and veiled. So he appeared more docile and harmless - or easier to handle - than Raila in 2012. This Handshake-BBI circus - is CHESS - engineered by Uhuru but branded in Raila. Seem once Ruto torpedoed parliamentary - Uhuru was back to drawing board and now BBI is so GEMA-centered. I don't see Uhuru as a sellout to GEMA - you are jaundiced.
GEMA are not such "hardworking entrepreneurs" - their leaders favor them through brazen tribalism. Kibaki tribalism was so open the highways in Central are still more visible than Uhuru's uptodate. Now Uhuru is expanding Lunatic Express to snake to Thika, via Sagana, Nyeri to Nanyuki. Mau Mau Road sijui what. Most Luo and Kalenjin are silently bitter but gagged by their gods Ruto and Raila. Sudi-Ng'enos erupt and Ruto denounce them swiftly.
No Pundit, GEMA leaders-v-hoi polloi relations are a mixed bag at best. Not abusive. Jomo blundered in the 60s and that exposes them to savage Kalenjin or Maa or Al Shaabab in Lamu. Otherwise Uhuru fiercely defended them in PEV and Mpeketoni and seem ready to liberate them from Kalenjin political blackmail. I know you and I differ in the wisdom of voting for "peace" vs "freedom."
Ruto really give Kalenjin a bad name. Free-for-all looting especially is so brazen - Kenyattas steal more but smartly. Basically average Kenyan believe Ruto is the biggest thief - while Uhuru only inherited land and business from Jomo but is mean and almost clean. You seem to take pride in Ruto bad image - but it affects his chances vs Raila. Today I have seen Maraga saying graft is a Kenyan existential threat... I don't agree but Maragas are believable to most Wanjikus.
Anyway it down to 2 cunning non-GEMA honchos now - so GEMA reap brideprice in meantime - unless Pajero
theory somehow materialize. Pitting non-GEMA is such finesse, don't you think?
Uhuru is a mlevi..not a leader. Even Ruto tell people that. He is just born lucky - with kenyatta name, bottomless money and GEMA ancestry. Kalenjin nickname for him - is the born lucky. Trump was born with a silver spoon but at least he has his own way around things. Uhuru is just a tool - Moi used and later Ruto fashioned. The idiot at one point signed off his PORK to maDVD :). Ruto had to save the situation. The man chain smokes and drinks like an idiot. The only time he stay sober or doesn't smoke are during public rallies...otherwise in his default mode..it's one cigarette to start another one in between sips of alcohol. Sonko at least is self-made and his drug problems a little excusable - coz he can function while being drunk like most kenyans.
Ruto if given a chance - you'll see what Kenya has been missing - real leadership. Not a drunkard who put kenyan on auto-pilot mode and dozes off - only waking up when plane hit turbulences.
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Pundit those Tigrays or Baganda or Tutsi countries you quote: LOL. Mass graves, coups, rebels, famines and whatnot are hardly successes.
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Uhuru is brilliant - that I don't dispute - he is like Sonko - you got to give them their dues - because these half-drunk half-dead people can be deadly intelligent when they are sober. They just don't work as hard as say RUTO who doesn't drink.
I believe GEMA people are hardworking - and don't really benefit from gov largesses - they have an admirable work ethic, and are self-driven. Gov has nothing to do with it. I was with them during Moi era. Majority of GEMA people have incredible self-drive to better their life - and discipline - that is almost like Mzungu. They are not spontaneous like Luos - who despite equally working very hard - blow their money hard. Kalenjin like most pastoralist - just have disdain for hardwork - and have zero work ethic. People like Ruto or Moi are rare - not the norm. The average Kalenjin doesn't like to exert himself. In my village - you'll find even poor people trying to hire farm workers :). Kalenjin just like to shine their teeth with tree brush, fold their legs and watch the sun go down..all their truly care about is their deep love for cattle and cows. The only thing they care about is whether the cow has drunk water or not :). They are just slightly better than Maasai - who are legendary in their laziness.
The first time i heard of Ruto thievery or smartness - was from a close friend in 2002. Moi or Mama Ngina was pouring money. I had become part of those university student organization. We went to see big ministers or PS - got money for the weekend. Then I decided it was not worthy my time. Some people persisted - some made it big. One of this guy - called Sirma - as student got as close to Moi as can be possible - I think he befriend Moi security - and so was always hobnobbing with Moi, Ministers and name. Very funny keiyo. Anyway one day - university or youth leaders go to see Moi - Moi gives them 20M or so - lot of money in 2002 - and money given to Ruto - he tells me immediately Ruto left the scene - Ruto took a dive -this was in Nyayo or KICC - drives with money - get into another car - another car - basically vanished with their money :) I have later heard many similar stories. Ruto has no morals when it come to money and girls. I think it coz of his long history as chicken and cattle seller :) but he basically very smart and very cunning. You only deal with him if you're smart - otherwise utalia sana.
That sirma was something - Moi was such a sharp dresser - you had to basically dress in best suits and italian suits - to be near him.
The core of this is true but coated with hubris. Uhuru is lazy yes but the brilliance is more than you admit. The cunning while as fierce as Raila or Ruto is more stealth and veiled. So he appeared more docile and harmless - or easier to handle - than Raila in 2012. This Handshake-BBI circus - is CHESS - engineered by Uhuru but branded in Raila. Seem once Ruto torpedoed parliamentary - Uhuru was back to drawing board and now BBI is so GEMA-centered. I don't see Uhuru as a sellout to GEMA - you are jaundiced.
GEMA are not such "hardworking entrepreneurs" - their leaders favor them through brazen tribalism. Kibaki tribalism was so open the highways in Central are still more visible than Uhuru's uptodate. Now Uhuru is expanding Lunatic Express to snake to Thika, via Sagana, Nyeri to Nanyuki. Mau Mau Road sijui what. Most Luo and Kalenjin are silently bitter but gagged by their gods Ruto and Raila. Sudi-Ng'enos erupt and Ruto denounce them swiftly.
No Pundit, GEMA leaders-v-hoi polloi relations are a mixed bag at best. Jomo blundered in the 60s and that exposes them to savage Kalenjin or Maa or Al Shaabab in Lamu. Otherwise Uhuru fiercely defended them in PEV and Mpeketoni and seem ready to liberate them from Kalenjin political blackmail. I know you and I differ in the wisdom of voting for "peace" vs "freedom."
Ruto really give Kalenjin a bad name. Free-for-all looting especially is so brazen - Kenyatta and Odingas steal more but smartly. Basically average Kenyan believe Ruto is the biggest thief - while Uhuru only inherited land and business from Jomo but is mean and almost clean. You seem to take pride in Ruto bad image - but it affects his chances vs Raila. Today I have seen Maraga saying graft is a Kenyan existential threat... I don't agree but Maragas are believable to most Wanjikus.
Anyway it down to 2 cunning non-GEMA honchos now - so GEMA reap brideprice in meantime - unless Pajero
theory somehow materialize. Pitting non-GEMA is such finesse, don't you think?
Uhuru is a mlevi..not a leader. Even Ruto tell people that. He is just born lucky - with kenyatta name, bottomless money and GEMA ancestry. Kalenjin nickname for him - is the born lucky. Trump was born with a silver spoon but at least he has his own way around things. Uhuru is just a tool - Moi used and later Ruto fashioned. The idiot at one point signed off his PORK to maDVD :). Ruto had to save the situation. The man chain smokes and drinks like an idiot. The only time he stay sober or doesn't smoke are during public rallies...otherwise in his default mode..it's one cigarette to start another one in between sips of alcohol. Sonko at least is self-made and his drug problems a little excusable - coz he can function while being drunk like most kenyans.
Ruto if given a chance - you'll see what Kenya has been missing - real leadership. Not a drunkard who put kenyan on auto-pilot mode and dozes off - only waking up when plane hit turbulences.
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Ive been evaluating Kenyatta the last couple of days , I ve seen the people he has put in the office of the president ,apart from Gecaga and Kinyua the rest the Waitas, Mbugua, Muturi, Kariuki etc there is a big minus you can see where the problem is.
Now come to his political advisors Murathe and Tuju who are running the Jubilee party he seems only to be listening to them where party matters are concerned and you have the biggest Raila fans their intention seems to be giving Raila Jubilee for posterity.
Then you go back to history you realize that Uhuru single handedly killed K.A.N.U and sadly th same way he is killing Jubilee . There will be a massive walkout as you know Jubilee already lost in ward elections in Muranga and Naivasha and pro Ruto people won.
Again back to history TNA as a party was not functional he had left the party running to Sakaja and Oloo , no party elections no nothing, thats how he mismanages parties.
One thing he is really lucky of is Ruto will become the next president and thus wont go after the looting he , his family and friends have done. If the hustler nation was under a roguw person like Miguna post presidency would be a nightmare for him. Ruto adores Uhuru ,its evident apart from politics they are personal friends.
Wow, where does one start with rebutting you. We would need to agree on basics- like a win is a win, a loss is a loss. NUMBERS. E.g ODM lost Msambweni, hustler won. See? - no ifs or buts. "Win by losing" is new version of spin by Pundit.
I said before this is pyrric victory , one must be very shortsighted to celebrate the outcome . Furthermore winning in senate which is being controlled by Uhuru and Raila doesnt necessarily translate winning on ground which is much more important .
You know the reason why Uhuru and Raila are winning in senate is simply a tilt of the dice . Only 4 senators who you can say more or less are essentially "Ruto regionmates" but keep on betraying him namely Michael Malinga Mbito ,Margaret Kamar Samuel Poghisio ,Gideon Moi as for the KANU members hopefully Ruto has learnt a thing or two , he should never have allowed KANU to vauch for Jubilee presidential canditates in 2017 . He managed to outbox them in 2013 and they went and supported Mudavai.
Now impeachment: if Sonko survived the floor you would be dancing here and asking Robina to learn the lesson. But he LOST - donge? Spin works where there is vague argument not raw numbers. I cannot spin Diani - you cannot spin impeachment. Sonko by small chance can be saved by court - but he is been done for a while now. He is out on bail, suspended, hostile assembly, name it. We are merely discussing the fate of his lameduck office- NMS already ate his lunch.
For your information , this is what I was rooting for (see below) . Forget NMS I said it before if it becomes political majority forget the work , remember Tuju , Peter Kenneth with his fake media campaign , Mututho and the CDF originator Karue .
We need elections in the following counties
Machakos & Nairobi
What - hustler candidates won in Naivasha and Kahawa? :o Your duplicity is amazing. No, there were no such candidates- please share the threads here. This is Bondo nonsense where winners become hustler after the fact yet they had Raila portraits during campaigns. Or Wiper guy in Embakasi is somehow a hustler win :) Ai yawa, hio hatuelewi.
Here is a link
https://www.tuko.co.ke/397025-ngunjiri-wambugu-congratulates-rutos-team-winning-3-by-election-seats-they-organised.html
Uhuru destroys parties... really? How many parties has Uhuru been in? Kanu, TNA, Jubilee. How about Ruto? Raila? Oh, who dumped Kanu first - Uhuru or Ruto? And whose idea was it to dissolve TNA and URP into the Jubilee fat elephant? Wait- are you sure there was democracy in URP?? How did they handle poor Isaac :) - anyone asked his opinion about dissolution?
Once again you didnt get the gist of what I was poining out . I had 2 points
Point 1 - Uhurus poor leadership skills destroyed one of the oldest and biggest party in Kenya KANU from a solid party with grassroots support and branches in almost all parts of Kenya he inherited in 2002 to a shelf of itself whent he handed over to Gideon Moi in 2012 . He is doing the same to Jubilee
Point 2 - Uhuru poor leadership skills make him delegate party duties to minnows like Sakaja and Oloo who have no experience in running parties and as proven Sakaja instead of building the party was partying all over Nairobi party after party , same with Oloo who had defected to ODM but was still chairman of TNA - Same thing is happening - Murathe is all over Coast drinking whisky everyday and Tuju has already sold Jubilee to Raila .
cant you see the similarities ?