Would happen to Uhuru after he makes Raila president. You cannot leave the presidency and still want to pull strings in the background.
Another south Sudan
Very far from it....
DRC is awakening! And you can’t imagine how rich this country is. It has been plundered mostly by vested interests especially allied to Kagane and Museveni in opposing plundering cabals.
Joseph Kabila doesn’t anymore have the levers to mount a guerrilla war and he doesn’t have the stomach for it (he is a rich $ billionaire living it up, why would he want another bush war? The army (most of whom were his loyalists) are now fully aligned to Tsishekedi.
Tsishekedi has struck a master stroke where he has aligned all the main opposition figures towards what he calls the Sacred Union of DRC and he has overwhelming support for this. The next few weeks and months are going to be very crucial on how DRC goes forward but certainly this move is for the better.
That country is on a whole different level... of only it organised itself; it is massively wealthy!! Tsishekedi seems like one who could engineer it’s turnaround.
Kabila is not Ruto or Raila- his nusu mkate was obtained via brazen rigging. How can his presidential candidate be distant third yet his party got 60% MPs:o Tshisekedi needs to be swift as he purge army, cops, etc of Kabila loyalists. Otherwise Kabila could overthrow him... The man killed his own dad Laurent-Desire for power and is a heartless killer.
Tsishekedi is weaning himself off Kabila.
It is still tenuous and dangerous times and Kabila could yet spring something but it seems that Tsishekedi has sort of neutered him and insulated himself. As a person with vested interests there and keen watcher of DRC (aside from the little activities that I am involved in there), this is huge and the whole country appears fully behind Tsishekedi move after yesterday’s official announcement of his next moves to recalibrate the country’s politics.
We shall see. I think Congo is split into 4 parts; Tshikendi and his southern Lumbubashi. Kabila and Eastern Mineral rich Congo of GOMA. The North Eastern Congo of Kisangani and the Central or Kinshasasa congo.
But generally the entire country is a shit hole without any infrastructure.
Another south Sudan
Very far from it....
DRC is awakening! And you can’t imagine how rich this country is. It has been plundered mostly by vested interests especially allied to Kagane and Museveni in opposing plundering cabals.
Joseph Kabila doesn’t anymore have the levers to mount a guerrilla war and he doesn’t have the stomach for it (he is a rich $ billionaire living it up, why would he want another bush war? The army (most of whom were his loyalists) are now fully aligned to Tsishekedi.
Tsishekedi has struck a master stroke where he has aligned all the main opposition figures towards what he calls the Sacred Union of DRC and he has overwhelming support for this. The next few weeks and months are going to be very crucial on how DRC goes forward but certainly this move is for the better.
That country is on a whole different level... of only it organised itself; it is massively wealthy!! Tsishekedi seems like one who could engineer it’s turnaround.
Whoever control the mines of eastern congo - runs congo. And that person is kabila. The rest of Congo is a useless forest without any infrastructure.
(https://www.bbc.com/news/special/world/africa/11/dr_congo/map/img/drcon_mineral_624.gif)
Tshisekedi dad - the late Etienne - was anti-Mobutu Sese Seko oppositionist for years. Felix grew up in Belgium and got rigged in by Kabila who was keen to fend off Moise Katumbi and Jean-Pierre Bemba from power. Katumbi and Bemba are the real opposition from the East DRC - Goma/Kisangani and Lubumbashi. Kabila and the Tshisekedis hail from West DRC area of Kinshasa. It why Kabila preferred him to eastern coalition candidate Martin Fayulu.
Felix Tshisekedi is a pampered Ivy League kid and illegitimate president. He need to steer the transition carefully riding the anti-Kabila coalition of convenience. Kabila is "Senator-for-Life" with rock-solid immunity. I think it's entrenched in their BoR 8) - that how they got him to step down from C-in-C. He can go slowly if they let him keep the loot and leave him alone. Bemba and Katumbi are propping Tshisekedi for now but are harder to deal with longterm. Kabila had to hand them over to ICC and declared them persona non gratsa ala Miguna or Sheikh Balala.
Yes, you are correct in a way but not quite. Partly so and also why you have to watch Kagame and Museveni’s next moves. These two and Kabila of course have personal vested interests but I dare say Kabila has no stomach to get back into a bush war. The guy is living the best of his life generally trotting around on his Harley Davidson (mid life crisis😀) and receiving $700k per month salary (which he doesn’t need!!) as ex-president.
Remember also that his departure was negotiated with the western powers including letting him off on potential ICC manenos. He could become another Taylor if he starts some mischief.
Tshisekedi dad - the late Etienne - was anti-Mobutu Sese Seko oppositionist for years. Felix grew up in Belgium and got rigged in by Kabila who was keen to fend off Moise Katumbi and Jean-Pierre Bemba from power. Katumbi and Bemba are the real opposition from the East DRC - Goma/Kisangani and Lubumbashi. Kabila and the Tshisekedis hail from West DRC area of Kinshasa. It why Kabila preferred him to eastern coalition candidate Martin Fayulu.
Felix Tshisekedi is a pampered Ivy League kid and illegitimate president. He need to steer the transition carefully riding the anti-Kabila coalition of convenience. Kabila is "Senator-for-Life" with rock-solid immunity. I think it's entrenched in their BoR 8) - that how they got him to step down from C-in-C. He can go slowly if they let him keep the loot and leave him alone. Bemba and Katumbi are propping Tshisekedi for now but are harder to deal with longterm. Kabila had to hand them over to ICC and declared them persona non gratsa ala Miguna or Sheikh Balala.
When did Kabila become a western congolese or because he now lives in Kinshasasa. Kabilas are from east.
Bemba is not from the east - he is from West - North West. He is a Mobutu remnant - coming from the same area - and his father making his fortune then.
You're totally confused.Tshisekedi dad - the late Etienne - was anti-Mobutu Sese Seko oppositionist for years. Felix grew up in Belgium and got rigged in by Kabila who was keen to fend off Moise Katumbi and Jean-Pierre Bemba from power. Katumbi and Bemba are the real opposition from the East DRC - Goma/Kisangani and Lubumbashi. Kabila and the Tshisekedis hail from West DRC area of Kinshasa. It why Kabila preferred him to eastern coalition candidate Martin Fayulu.
Felix Tshisekedi is a pampered Ivy League kid and illegitimate president. He need to steer the transition carefully riding the anti-Kabila coalition of convenience. Kabila is "Senator-for-Life" with rock-solid immunity. I think it's entrenched in their BoR 8) - that how they got him to step down from C-in-C. He can go slowly if they let him keep the loot and leave him alone. Bemba and Katumbi are propping Tshisekedi for now but are harder to deal with longterm. Kabila had to hand them over to ICC and declared them persona non gratsa ala Miguna or Sheikh Balala.
I stand corrected. I long assumed it from Kabila extreme hostility towards Katumbi who hail from Katanga/Lubumbashi. Also because the Tshisekedis and the Kabilas are both Luba tribe. I could be wrong.
I thought Kabilas were long routed from East Congo mines by M7-Kagame in 2001. Right before Kabila Snr was eliminated by the son. Rwanda & UG propped Wamba rebels who controlled the region till 2003 Wamba and Bemba became Kabila VPs.
Some years later Kabila consolidated army, chased Bembas and maybe re-took the mines. If Tshisekedi has kicked out his loyalists from the army then Kabila has nothing except life senator title and the stashed loot. That enough for 50yo that never worked a day in his life. A leech.When did Kabila become a western congolese or because he now lives in Kinshasasa. Kabilas are from east.
Bemba is not from the east - he is from West - North West. He is a Mobutu remnant - coming from the same area - and his father making his fortune then.
You're totally confused.Tshisekedi dad - the late Etienne - was anti-Mobutu Sese Seko oppositionist for years. Felix grew up in Belgium and got rigged in by Kabila who was keen to fend off Moise Katumbi and Jean-Pierre Bemba from power. Katumbi and Bemba are the real opposition from the East DRC - Goma/Kisangani and Lubumbashi. Kabila and the Tshisekedis hail from West DRC area of Kinshasa. It why Kabila preferred him to eastern coalition candidate Martin Fayulu.
Felix Tshisekedi is a pampered Ivy League kid and illegitimate president. He need to steer the transition carefully riding the anti-Kabila coalition of convenience. Kabila is "Senator-for-Life" with rock-solid immunity. I think it's entrenched in their BoR 8) - that how they got him to step down from C-in-C. He can go slowly if they let him keep the loot and leave him alone. Bemba and Katumbi are propping Tshisekedi for now but are harder to deal with longterm. Kabila had to hand them over to ICC and declared them persona non gratsa ala Miguna or Sheikh Balala.
Eastern Congo is a theatre of endless bush wars linked to minerals. It cannot end soon. All you need is to raise money, buy guns, get some few soldiers and slice your self a mine - and give it to mining company - and tax them - or even mine it yourself if you can. It helps that most of area is forested....so you have enough cover to do anything.
DRC gov depend on the mines. Rebels depend on the mines.The rest of country is an undeveloped forest without any economy worth talking about - with almost non-existent infrastructure.
It wouldn't be surprising to find Kenyattas, Mois - probably Odingas and Rutos - have invested in the mines through dodgy companies. Way they quickly welcomed Tshisekedi - and Kabila before that. Moi & Pattni Goldenberg was an investor. The stench go all the way to Pananosic and Tesla here - cheap raw materials.
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Correct on Kabila departure and Bemba and Katumbi. Yes, Fayulu won... and this was mostly by Katumbi backing including hundreds of $millions in running that campaign. Remember Katumbi and Kabila were business partners and had a famous falling out. Both Bemba and Katumbi are probably (human nature) doing this as a payback to Kabila.
Tsishekedi isn’t Ivy League; it isn’t known whether he even went to or finished his uni in Brussels.
Tsishekedi another Uhunye. A spoilt brat that never finished college and never had any formal employment. Was dad's son all the years. He was known like his local counterpart in Kenya for spending a lot of time in night clubs and waking up at midday or early afternoon.
https://nation.africa/kenya/blogs-opinion/opinion/raila-molasses-and-the-men-from-pretoria-1159726
Raila is deeply involved. He sold Spectre to Energem Resources - a dodggy "canadian" company involved DRC mining and wars. His visits to DRC are not coincident. I bet Spectre is money laundering scheme by the "Canadians" - more South African war mercenaries of Congo. Rather than shipping gas containers - you can bet they are shipping minerals.
1) Bemba is a rebel leader causing trouble in Eastern Congo. He is married to Liliane Teixeira. Liliane is the daughter of Antonio “Tony” Texeira the CEO of Energem Resources. The company owns 55% shares in the Kisumu Molasses plant.
2) Raila is also linked to current president Tshisekedi - I bet through the same Texiera - who funds these wars.
Remember South Africa use to be the mecca of minerals - like Saudi Arabia is for Oil - and now those minning thugs have moved to DRC - as South African mines run dry. These same minning thugs finished Latin American mines.
After they are done - DRC will be left with gaping holes - and zero minerals.
At top of the food chain are Jewish kings and lords - who control the mining industry - De Beers and the likes. Below them the International Thugs who supply weapons and deal with logistics of shipping minerals. And the local thugs in DRC - who protect the mines.It wouldn't be surprising to find Kenyattas, Mois - probably Odingas and Rutos - have invested in the mines through dodgy companies. Way they quickly welcomed Tshisekedi - and Kabila before that. Moi & Pattni Goldenberg was an investor. The stench go all the way to Pananosic and Tesla here - cheap raw materials.
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Tsishekedi another Uhunye. A spoilt brat that never finished college and never had any formal employment. Was dad's son all the years. He was known like his local counterpart in Kenya for spending a lot of time in night clubs and waking up at midday or early afternoon.
But Uhuru is graduate of Amhrest - an Ivy league.
We shall see. I think Congo is split into 4 parts; Tshikendi and his southern Lumbubashi. Kabila and Eastern Mineral rich Congo of GOMA. The North Eastern Congo of Kisangani and the Central or Kinshasasa congo.
But generally the entire country is a shit hole without any infrastructure.Very far from it....
DRC is awakening! And you can’t imagine how rich this country is. It has been plundered mostly by vested interests especially allied to Kagane and Museveni in opposing plundering cabals.
Joseph Kabila doesn’t anymore have the levers to mount a guerrilla war and he doesn’t have the stomach for it (he is a rich $ billionaire living it up, why would he want another bush war? The army (most of whom were his loyalists) are now fully aligned to Tsishekedi.
Tsishekedi has struck a master stroke where he has aligned all the main opposition figures towards what he calls the Sacred Union of DRC and he has overwhelming support for this. The next few weeks and months are going to be very crucial on how DRC goes forward but certainly this move is for the better.
That country is on a whole different level... of only it organised itself; it is massively wealthy!! Tsishekedi seems like one who could engineer it’s turnaround.
I also favor a break-up or some extreme autonomy into 3 parts. East, West and South. This may come as a shock, but at Independence their infrastructure was second only to South Africa in the continent. So "our people" have a lot to do with the current state.
https://nation.africa/kenya/blogs-opinion/opinion/raila-molasses-and-the-men-from-pretoria-1159726
Raila is deeply involved. He sold Spectre to Energem Resources - a dodggy "canadian" company involved DRC mining and wars. His visits to DRC are not coincident. I bet Spectre is money laundering scheme by the "Canadians" - more South African war mercenaries of Congo. Rather than shipping gas containers - you can bet they are shipping minerals.
1) Bemba is a rebel leader causing trouble in Eastern Congo. He is married to Liliane Teixeira. Liliane is the daughter of Antonio “Tony” Texeira the CEO of Energem Resources. The company owns 55% shares in the Kisumu Molasses plant.
2) Raila is also linked to current president Tshisekedi - I bet through the same Texiera - who funds these wars.
Remember South Africa use to be the mecca of minerals - like Saudi Arabia is for Oil - and now those minning thugs have moved to DRC - as South African mines run dry. These same minning thugs finished Latin American mines.
After they are done - DRC will be left with gaping holes - and zero minerals.
At top of the food chain are Jewish kings and lords - who control the mining industry - De Beers and the likes. Below them the International Thugs who supply weapons and deal with logistics of shipping minerals. And the local thugs in DRC - who protect the mines.
Eastern Congo is a warlord's terrain partly because there is no effective government controlling the area. Reason being DRC is so large that central government can nary be able to extend to this far... unable to even muster enough resources to pay the police or the army even if for a semblance of order. Basically the police and army in this region fend for themselves! And which is why it is Kagame's and Museveni's playground. The police and defence forces can easily be malleable and manipulated by these cunning fellas. They supply the munitions and play the village warlords for a piece of the spoils from the mineral wealth. It will continue to remain so as long as the Government in Kinshasha remains unable to govern/police this territory. Which explains Congolese disdain to Banyamulenge (basically Rwandese) who run and control the militias in large swathes of Eastern Congo and the territory surrounding Goma. The UN through MONUSCO has merely been a largely non-effective force in this region although to be honest has provided some level of deterrence in the area escalating to un-controllable levels.
On Raila, you are back to your speculative musings Pundit.... Raila has no business with Bemba (as much as I know for the moment). Yes, he is very (in)vested with Tsishekedi and he has on-going, currently very nascent and speculative business interests (riding on so called AU High Rep for Infrastructure) in DRC. Certainly your usual Kenyans have quite an interest in DRC including the Kenyattas, Odingas, Rutos, dont know about the Moi's, Peter Kenneth and a few others (including yours truly.... small fish). As you are aware Mwangi's Equity is now the biggest Bank in DRC and if it gets it correct there could soon be in top 10 banks in Africa by asset base.
The rich Congolose are massively rich.... your so called rich Kenyans are no match... basically puny/penny rich in comparison.
On infrastructure... Congo is navigated mostly by air and decrepit rail and also importantly by water along River Congo. Quite a spectacle to ride or navigate on the ferries on River Congo!! Most of the big Cities can only be accessed in this manner and they are like independent commercial centres with limited or non-existent intercity road network.
I understand those guys to have been in the DRC almost a hundred years if not more. It's the folks in Masisi that are recent immigrants(both Hutu and Tutsi).
The Democratic Republic of Congo's President Felix Tshisekedi gained an upper hand on Tuesday in his power struggle with his predecessor Joseph Kabila as parliament voted to authorize a motion to remove a Kabila ally as speaker pic.twitter.com/bvDhEqyP6r
— ANews (@anews) December 9, 2020
Betrayal in Kinshasha is evolving. Mwafrika elites have a long way to agreeing to sharing the loot and blood of their subject for progress.
Au and UN should get serious with frameworks for seccessions. The human suffering beats the logic of mythical national unity.The Democratic Republic of Congo's President Felix Tshisekedi gained an upper hand on Tuesday in his power struggle with his predecessor Joseph Kabila as parliament voted to authorize a motion to remove a Kabila ally as speaker pic.twitter.com/bvDhEqyP6r
— ANews (@anews) December 9, 2020
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The only place i have seen the Kabila morony of a predecessor running the state is Burma/Mynmar where the CGS is the C-in-C and not the president. Additionally the Mynmari military controls the defense and interior ministries and 25% of parliament so the critical clauses cannot be altered without their say-so. Here Kabila is a moron who thought he could hold onto power using Mps and an MOU against the C-in-C. Not even senator for life will save him if he continues digging in. He needs to lie low and make his way to Singapore or Monaco - some place without extradition - and enjoy his bloodmoney there.
I understand those guys to have been in the DRC almost a hundred years if not more. It's the folks in Masisi that are recent immigrants(both Hutu and Tutsi).
Doesn't matter to Congolais. If you are a Tutsi you are a Tutsi. You are hated with venom. This started way before the recent troubles. There is a racial dimension to this conflict that is not appreciated by most people who are not familiar with that area. Banyamulenge are physically distinct from most of the inhabitants in the region. Were they picked on because they look different? or did they start antagonizing other tribes? No one knows but that area will be in turmoil until there is real reconciliation between different ethnic groups or some political arrangement can be worked out. Rwanda isn't just in Congo for the minerals or chasing genocidaires, they act as protectors for the Banyamulenge.
"By that logic the Pygmies should be the perennial victims"
They are. Pygmies are regular victims of atrocities.
"What happened after 1996? RPF. They launched attacks on refugee camps killing people indiscriminately in the name of going after genocidaires. Then they used a fake Congolese rebellion to invade Zaire. They pursued over half a million fleeing Hutu civilians all the way to Central African republic violently culling their numbers as the made their way through the jungle."
Stay away from revisionist sources. RPF wasn't even that strong militarily. History is complex, there are no pure victims nor pure aggressors, truth is in between. You want to villainize RPF for some reason. I have been to that region and I have friends from Burundi, Rwanda and Congo so I know more than the average Kenyan about the genesis of the troubles. You are very partisan.
Ultimately both Tutsis and Hutus are victims of Belgian subterfuge.
DRC is big. I think Kabila did very well, He provided needed stability. Tshisekedi is negotiating with rebel. he should focus on improving literacy and health. He should leverage the mineral wealth to build infrastructure. Health is what DRC needs. There is a lot of chaos and population explosion because DRC hasn't contained diseases like measles and small pox. Put into the mix the crippling EBOLA. Agriculture investments should help DRC use it fast fertile land to commercialize farming. They should start planting tea, coffee and Soya beans
ROADS. ROADS. ROADS. DRC being in middle of rainforest badly need paved roads; otherwise nothing moves;everyting get stuck in the mud.DRC is big. I think Kabila did very well, He provided needed stability. Tshisekedi is negotiating with rebel. he should focus on improving literacy and health. He should leverage the mineral wealth to build infrastructure. Health is what DRC needs. There is a lot of chaos and population explosion because DRC hasn't contained diseases like measles and small pox. Put into the mix the crippling EBOLA. Agriculture investments should help DRC use it fast fertile land to commercialize farming. They should start planting tea, coffee and Soya beans
Train would be better. Roads just do a museveni and use murram and stones to pave roads
Yes the belgian built railways - it still operational - and still pretty much only means of transport plus airplanes. Otherwise to drive through Congo with a car - even 4WD - is pure madness.
They need to pour murram - at the very least.
Anyway if I was a president of DRC - I would mortage those minerals to chinese - in exchange for infrastructure.
I think Ghana just did that - gave Chinese bauxite - in exchange of infrastructure.
Just value the minerals - let chinese come with their armed forces - and they will pay DRC even 100B dollars - and begin road, power and rail constructions.
Chinese have transformed Angola and Zambia which are also huge messes.Train would be better. Roads just do a museveni and use murram and stones to pave roads