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Title: Ruto visit Mt Kenya as it appears there is cessation of hostilities
Post by: RV Pundit on October 29, 2020, 11:49:42 AM
It appears some reconciliation btw Uhuru and Ruto could be underway

https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2020-10-29-dp-ruto-in-three-day-mt-kenya-campaign-blitz/
Title: Re: Ruto visit Mt Kenya as it appears there is cessation of hostilities
Post by: KenyanPlato on October 29, 2020, 12:00:47 PM
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10223629844079233&id=1385217758
Title: Re: Ruto visit Mt Kenya as it appears there is cessation of hostilities
Post by: Nefertiti on October 29, 2020, 02:03:29 PM
Hope spring eternal
Title: Re: Ruto visit Mt Kenya as it appears there is cessation of hostilities
Post by: RV Pundit on October 29, 2020, 02:09:34 PM
Muteshi was paid 5M for all his trouble - and case is stale. Mavi ya kale hainuki.
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10223629844079233&id=1385217758
Title: Re: Ruto visit Mt Kenya as it appears there is cessation of hostilities
Post by: RV Pundit on October 29, 2020, 02:12:59 PM
Yes there is hope Ruto could win next election by 70% otherwise he already has is in the bag with or without Uhuru.

You saw Uhuru uncle the GEMA council of elders in Karen calling for peace.

Meanwhile Raila has run away to Zaire's Mobutu to avoid going to Nyeri :) :)

Hope spring eternal
Title: Re: Ruto visit Mt Kenya as it appears there is cessation of hostilities
Post by: Kadudu on October 29, 2020, 02:13:44 PM
Were the people who handled stolen property brought to book?

Muteshi was paid 5M for all his trouble - and case is stale. Mavi ya kale hainuki.
Title: Re: Ruto visit Mt Kenya as it appears there is cessation of hostilities
Post by: RV Pundit on October 29, 2020, 02:14:45 PM
It was a civil case. I don't know if Muteshi filed a criminal report with DCI.
Were the people who handled stolen property brought to book?
Title: Re: Ruto visit Mt Kenya as it appears there is cessation of hostilities
Post by: Nefertiti on October 29, 2020, 02:14:58 PM
Raila's Nyeri visit to boost Kikuyu-Luo relationship – elders

Chairman Kiago says event not about Raila, but relationship between the two communities


29 October 2020 - 06:12

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In Summary
  • The event in Nyeri will be held at Kabiru-ini Showground.
  • As many as 1,000 guests are expected, among them politicians and opinion leaders

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/Gh2j7eZP5dugDTIKuW2cGFOljmLBsQuXjOfdvtUyeNkrUlpWe3QyiOHKpiGdR6eKQd_Lmirtq5iyDS-QMWBEfg3iNN-JFQ=s512)
Kikuyu Council of Elders during their end of year prayers at Kabiru-ini showground in Nyeri


https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2020-10-28-railas-nyeri-visit-to-boost-kikuyu-luo-relationship-elders/
Title: Re: Ruto visit Mt Kenya as it appears there is cessation of hostilities
Post by: Nefertiti on October 29, 2020, 02:22:16 PM
This PEV skeleton is a very raw nerve for Kikuyu

Muteshi was paid 5M for all his trouble - and case is stale. Mavi ya kale hainuki.
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10223629844079233&id=1385217758
Title: Re: Ruto visit Mt Kenya as it appears there is cessation of hostilities
Post by: Nefertiti on October 29, 2020, 02:22:37 PM
Title: Re: Ruto visit Mt Kenya as it appears there is cessation of hostilities
Post by: Nefertiti on October 29, 2020, 02:24:21 PM
Ruto's headache over Raila's Mt Kenya support


(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/p1ZHV9XFIpDO6DHBT2YE2R52P4IoWuMljIxJrf5mpazam-8LYmMcf42h51OIKZuqCduX3z2Xga7OyhAIsJ8WS5aAGg0=s750)


https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2020-10-12-rutos-headache-over-railas-mt-kenya-support/
Title: Re: Ruto visit Mt Kenya as it appears there is cessation of hostilities
Post by: Nefertiti on October 29, 2020, 02:33:14 PM
Well even Raila cousin has been backing Mobutu for years.. it mean nothing. Uhuru cousin Beth Mugo, this same uncle backed Matiba and Kibaki. If it was kid bro Muhoho or Mama Ngina we would care.

Raila is AU infrastructure envoy or something.. visiting DRC Kabila lapdog Tshisekedi. The Nyeri visit is 14th Nov. I don't think he even needs to visit at all - Gema will not vote him directly but whoever Uhuru endorses - which is PK by all signs. Mobutu direct approach is waste of time.

By the way what exactly are they "reconciling" about? - I thought it all a big scheme to play Raila  :)

Yes there is hope Ruto could win next election by 70% otherwise he already has is in the bag with or without Uhuru.

You saw Uhuru uncle the GEMA council of elders in Karen calling for peace.

Meanwhile Raila has run away to Zaire's Mobutu to avoid going to Nyeri :) :)

Hope spring eternal
Title: Re: Ruto visit Mt Kenya as it appears there is cessation of hostilities
Post by: KenyanPlato on October 29, 2020, 02:38:25 PM
Muteshi was paid 5M for all his trouble - and case is stale. Mavi ya kale hainuki.
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10223629844079233&id=1385217758

He never got paid. Kalenjins are just useless thugs
Title: Re: Ruto visit Mt Kenya as it appears there is cessation of hostilities
Post by: KenyanPlato on October 29, 2020, 02:39:54 PM
Ruto is being milked by central churches. It is good it is their money he has been stealing
Title: Re: Ruto visit Mt Kenya as it appears there is cessation of hostilities
Post by: RV Pundit on October 29, 2020, 02:40:30 PM
Okay :) We shall see.
Well even Raila cousin has been backing Mobutu for years.. it mean nothing. Uhuru cousin Beth Mugo, this same uncle backed Matiba and Kibaki. If it was kid bro Muhoho or Mama Ngina we would care.

Raila is AU infrastructure envoy or something.. visiting DRC Kabila lapdog Tshisekedi. The Nyeri visit is 14th Nov. I don't think he even needs to visit at all - Gema will not vote him directly but whoever Uhuru endorses - which is PK by all signs. Mobutu direct approach is waste of time.

By the way what exactly are they "reconciling" about? - I thought it all a big scheme to play Raila  :)

Yes there is hope Ruto could win next election by 70% otherwise he already has is in the bag with or without Uhuru.

You saw Uhuru uncle the GEMA council of elders in Karen calling for peace.

Meanwhile Raila has run away to Zaire's Mobutu to avoid going to Nyeri :) :)

Hope spring eternal
Title: Re: Ruto visit Mt Kenya as it appears there is cessation of hostilities
Post by: RV Pundit on October 29, 2020, 02:43:05 PM
Yes Kalenjin are useless to have welcome more than 2M people to live amongst them, own land and call it home. Actually they never welcomed. They complained bitterly that Kenyatta, Jaramogi, Nyachae and Masinde Muliro were shifting their tribesmen to RV...and using their power..to influence land allocation.

After Mzungu left - LAND should have reverted to original owners like it happened in central - were you're shouting here and you're 98% homegenous.

The land by Mzungu were not being given for free - you needed political connection to get that land.

Muteshi I am sure talked to someone to "buy" that loan. He actually got for free from gov and you pay loan from farm proceeds.

Kalenjin will eventually evict those people - it's a question of opportunity and time. That I know. If hustler thing misfire - you can bet there will be another round of eviction. Kalenjin ambition to recover lost land has not ebbed. Muteshi is luckly that Ruto bought it - it was most likely end up a no mans land.

Near my farm in Kiptangich - you find such no mans land - some 200 acres - owners chased away - their house burnt - and until they come and sell. Some conmen - will claim to have met the evicted owner and they had agreed to sell it to them...and that is likes of "Dorothy".

He never got paid. Kalenjins are just useless thugs
Title: Re: Ruto visit Mt Kenya as it appears there is cessation of hostilities
Post by: gout on October 29, 2020, 03:27:04 PM
It is absurd the Kikuyus who fought for land are this twisted when Taitas, Maasais, Kalenjins fight for their land.
Title: Re: Ruto visit Mt Kenya as it appears there is cessation of hostilities
Post by: RV Pundit on October 29, 2020, 03:38:59 PM
Totally. Absurd. They refuse to see the land grievance from the other perspective. They rather say the opponent is EVIL. They don't want to confront land injustices by Kenyatta Jomo.
It is absurd the Kikuyus who fought for land are this twisted when Taitas, Maasais, Kalenjins fight for their land.
Title: Re: Ruto visit Mt Kenya as it appears there is cessation of hostilities
Post by: KenyanPlato on October 29, 2020, 04:11:00 PM
Totally. Absurd. They refuse to see the land grievance from the other perspective. They rather say the opponent is EVIL. They don't want to confront land injustices by Kenyatta Jomo.
It is absurd the Kikuyus who fought for land are this twisted when Taitas, Maasais, Kalenjins fight for their land.

So how would these land injustices be addressed. Everyone in kenya occupies a place that someone used to call home a century ago. My family occupies dorobos grazing and hunting grounds. They lost the right to that land and moved on. Kalenjins displaced someone else, whites displaced them and the treaty after colonial power allowed Willing buyer willing seller. How comes you devils now want to forgo the Lancaster agreement ..you are just lazy baboons
Title: Re: Ruto visit Mt Kenya as it appears there is cessation of hostilities
Post by: RV Kirgit on October 29, 2020, 04:27:34 PM
"willing buyer willing seller" is a term only sells to a fool.

Kenyatta post independence used state machinery to transplant gikuyu villages to middle of RV complete with kikuyu village names. This is state sponsored displacement!
Title: Re: Ruto visit Mt Kenya as it appears there is cessation of hostilities
Post by: KenyanPlato on October 29, 2020, 04:33:47 PM
"willing buyer willing seller" is a term only sells to a fool.

Kenyatta post independence used state machinery to transplant gikuyu villages to middle of RV complete with kikuyu village names. This is state sponsored displacement!

How so? Kenyatta just dripped okuyus there and you guys continued scratching your balls???
Title: Re: Ruto visit Mt Kenya as it appears there is cessation of hostilities
Post by: RV Pundit on October 29, 2020, 05:01:47 PM
What did you want us to do? Start war? We started and you've been unhappy ever since. People complain - infact when Kenyatta now moved to Nandi, Kericho, Baringo and Elgeyo - a redline was drawn.  At least Nakuru-Transzoia-UasinGishu - were contested with Maasai - before arrival of brits - no man lands btw Kalenjin and Maasai - it's was pasture land.

How so? Kenyatta just dripped okuyus there and you guys continued scratching your balls???
Title: Re: Ruto visit Mt Kenya as it appears there is cessation of hostilities
Post by: KenyanPlato on October 29, 2020, 05:08:30 PM
What did you want us to do? Start war? We started and you've been unhappy ever since. People complain - infact when Kenyatta now moved to Nandi, Kericho, Baringo and Elgeyo - a redline was drawn.  At least Nakuru-Transzoia-UasinGishu - were contested with Maasai - before arrival of brits - no man lands btw Kalenjin and Maasai - it's was pasture land.

How so? Kenyatta just dripped okuyus there and you guys continued scratching your balls???

Aaahhh so you contested what was not in contention then. How does this become contentious 15 years into mois rule..sungura wewe
Title: Re: Ruto visit Mt Kenya as it appears there is cessation of hostilities
Post by: RV Pundit on October 29, 2020, 05:56:07 PM
By 1850 towards 1875 - Kalenjin had decimated Maasai and kicked them out of the plains. Maasai therefore signed off the land to Brits that really didn't belong to them. There were barely any settlement on the land - stretching from Kitale to Limuru - because it was pasture land - that was heavily contested. You could easily lose your cattle there to cattle raiders.But still land belonged to Kalenjin - and Maasai. Not Kikuyus or Luhyas or Luos or Gusii. After Brits left - Maasai and Kalenjin should have been given back their land.

 
Aaahhh so you contested what was not in contention then. How does this become contentious 15 years into mois rule..sungura wewe
Title: Re: Ruto visit Mt Kenya as it appears there is cessation of hostilities
Post by: KenyanPlato on October 29, 2020, 06:07:50 PM
By 1850 towards 1875 - Kalenjin had decimated Maasai and kicked them out of the plains. Maasai therefore signed off the land to Brits that really didn't belong to them. There were barely any settlement on the land - stretching from Kitale to Limuru - because it was pasture land - that was heavily contested. You could easily lose your cattle there to cattle raiders.But still land belonged to Kalenjin - and Maasai. Not Kikuyus or Luhyas or Luos or Gusii. After Brits left - Maasai and Kalenjin should have been given back their land.

 
Aaahhh so you contested what was not in contention then. How does this become contentious 15 years into mois rule..sungura wewe

By who? The maasai had a claim on it
Title: Re: Ruto visit Mt Kenya as it appears there is cessation of hostilities
Post by: KenyanPlato on October 29, 2020, 06:08:11 PM
Back to the modern day thief
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10223631478720098&id=1385217758
Title: Re: Ruto visit Mt Kenya as it appears there is cessation of hostilities
Post by: RV Pundit on October 29, 2020, 07:36:40 PM
Lenana gave out land in two agreements. Kalenjin also gave out land in peace agreement and treaties with British. All these kenyatta ignored and grabbed with new breed of black kenyans land belonging to indigenous.

What ought to have happen - British should have handed back Maasai the land - as agreed in Anglo-Maasai treaty - Nairobi, Naivasha, Nyandarua, Nakuru,Laikipia, Uasin Gishu and I think Tranzoia - Brits allowed Maasai to retain Narok, Kajiado and North Laikipia - otherwise they would had been British-Maasai war - Anglo-Nandi treaty - Anglo-Kipsigis treaty (Kispisis allowed British land to plant tea and borabu border in lieu of war) - or those that were taken as war repartition (British took Nandi land including Turbo/Kipkaren that you Luhya uncle live on as punishment/war repartition for refusing to accept British rule). But don't imagine the Nandis have forgotten that British stole their land in Turbo...and new owners then came in.

 Kikuyu land the same..they lost Kiambu and Tigoni..and few thousand of hectares in Thika.

Other tribes basically lost 100 or 1,000 acres here and there for building gov offices...nothing like 2M acres of Maasai-Kalenjin land.

The Brits handed it to kenya gov - who then proceeded to replace the white colonialist with black one.

But I believe these are now forgotten issues. We are moving forward.  Kikuyus after war with Brits including having their balls crushed - deserved some land - who knows - we would be Zimbwabwe.

You want to go back - and wake up the demons - go ahead. Most kenyans just want to move on - and forget about the past.

By who? The maasai had a claim on it
Title: Re: Ruto visit Mt Kenya as it appears there is cessation of hostilities
Post by: RV Pundit on October 29, 2020, 07:55:21 PM
One hopes he is paid per word. Otherwise Ruto was elected while indicted by ICC for crimes against humanity. That is day western nations gave up on KENYA. There is nothing that can beat that. You will bring Kiamba, Muteshi and all that...but it will not register. Folks know nobody is truly innocent - nobody is perfect.

In 2013 - after two ICC duo - 3rd guy to get most votes was SONKO - confirmed jail-bird who jumped prison - the next was drug dealer Kabogo - replaced by Waititu (a mungiki who is barely literate) - IN KIAMBU. All of them got more than 1Million votes.

Back to the modern day thief
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10223631478720098&id=1385217758

Title: Re: Ruto visit Mt Kenya as it appears there is cessation of hostilities
Post by: KenyanPlato on October 29, 2020, 08:57:18 PM
That is voters choices but we will remind you that you own bo land or country to say who lives where and how. You get 99 year lease from gok and we move on. We will claim even kericho. Once Brooke bond leaves next year kikuyus will buy it and you won't do Jack
Title: Re: Ruto visit Mt Kenya as it appears there is cessation of hostilities
Post by: Njuri Ncheke on October 29, 2020, 09:31:13 PM
That is voters choices but we will remind you that you own bo land or country to say who lives where and how. You get 99 year lease from gok and we move on. We will claim even kericho. Once Brooke bond leaves next year kikuyus will buy it and you won't do Jack
Kikuyu need to go back home man. The issues you have created elsewhere will never be settled till you go home.
Title: Re: Ruto visit Mt Kenya as it appears there is cessation of hostilities
Post by: audacityofhope on October 29, 2020, 09:39:05 PM
Ruto is being milked by central churches. It is good it is their money he has been stealing
@Plato, who told you it is only Centro money? You apparently have no clue what kind of war chest the tangatanga have. They have been amassing wealth literally stealing from ALL the counties ....

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Documents filed in court by ARA show that the money started pouring into Gachagua’s accounts soon after the Jubilee administration rode to power in 2013.

He received funds from the Ministry of Lands, State Department for Planning, Ministry of Health, Bungoma County Government, Mathira CDF, Nyeri County Government and the National Irrigation Board.
...
According to the ARA documents, another firm known as Encartar Diagnostics Limited received Sh50 million from Bungoma county on June 10, 2015.

Three days later, on the June 13, Sh35 million was wired into Gachagua’s account....

https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2020-07-01-how-mp-gachagua-received-sh57-billion-in-7-years/
Title: Re: Ruto visit Mt Kenya as it appears there is cessation of hostilities
Post by: KenyanPlato on October 29, 2020, 09:55:03 PM
I am meant from tax payers so central is just getting that money back. Western too
Title: Re: Ruto visit Mt Kenya as it appears there is cessation of hostilities
Post by: audacityofhope on October 29, 2020, 11:26:26 PM
I am meant from tax payers so central is just getting that money back. Western too
Plato, what part of my rebuttal are you not getting? Rigathi is some MP in Central Kenya. What is he supplying in Western that has to (come from) and be paid to him 600KM away in Nyeri? How are we "getting our money back" when that money just slipped out of Bungoma County????
Title: Re: Ruto visit Mt Kenya as it appears there is cessation of hostilities
Post by: KenyanPlato on October 30, 2020, 12:38:53 AM
Rigithathi is not going to nyeri to share the loot. Ruto is the one donating the money.
Title: Re: Ruto visit Mt Kenya as it appears there is cessation of hostilities
Post by: Nefertiti on October 30, 2020, 07:40:52 AM
Pundit has massive blinkers as usual - Kalenjin and Maasai got all that RV span through genocides much worse than mbeberu himself. They didn't deserve to have it back. You can't have arbitrary ownership date as if there was legal acquisition. Any whiff of PEV and diaspora - in fact Kenya - will gang up against Mobutu and Kalenjin. Of course the "warriors" are in their best behavior right now - fighting Ogiek and Purko :) - I think Sudi and Ng'eno have been ordered to zip it by Mobutu.
Title: Re: Ruto visit Mt Kenya as it appears there is cessation of hostilities
Post by: Nefertiti on October 30, 2020, 07:44:18 AM
Rigithathi is not going to nyeri to share the loot. Ruto is the one donating the money.

This water under the bridge.. Rigathis will be squeezed to penury unless they renounce Mobutu. That's the trouble with grabbing in banana republic- not even Tangatanga can defend his filthy linen. It worse than Rotich. Even Sonko, Kiunjuri, Duales are literally shackled for that reason - and can only shadow-box. Mobutu's money still can't beat GoK.
Title: Re: Ruto visit Mt Kenya as it appears there is cessation of hostilities
Post by: KenyanPlato on October 30, 2020, 08:01:04 AM
I suspect rigithathi is laundering his brothers immense wealth gotten from stealing road reserves all over nairobi. He was a surveyor that stole like no other person during moi and cashed out during kibaki and uhuru...the idiot died from cancer. I know his distant relatives well. They were deeply involved in kplc scams especially the rural electrification..very rotten family.
Title: Re: Ruto visit Mt Kenya as it appears there is cessation of hostilities
Post by: Nefertiti on October 30, 2020, 08:16:44 AM
I suspect rigithathi is laundering his brothers immense wealth gotten from stealing road reserves all over nairobi. He was a surveyor that stole like no other person during moi and cashed out during kibaki and uhuru...the idiot died from cancer. I know his distant relatives well. They were deeply involved in kplc scams especially the rural electrification..very rotten family.

Yes. It baffles me why a Gachagua can dare take on GoK - ana kichaa - he will be left penniless.
Title: Re: Ruto visit Mt Kenya as it appears there is cessation of hostilities
Post by: RV Pundit on October 30, 2020, 09:24:22 AM
You overrate gov abilities and power. They have none of those powers. All they can do is take you to court. Judiciary ndio mambo yote.
Yes. It baffles me why a Gachagua can dare take on GoK - ana kichaa - he will be left penniless.
Title: Re: Ruto visit Mt Kenya as it appears there is cessation of hostilities
Post by: KenyanPlato on October 30, 2020, 10:00:23 AM
Arc will now take gachagua wealth and reduce him to a commoner and 5 years from today he may serve time in jail. Thst is a good start. Gok has the prosecution powers and enforcement of court orders. When judge rules ruto hotel and assets seized it is the govt that executes these orders. Raila can just come to power order that ruto corruption be a priority and bang your thief is hot soup
Title: Re: Ruto visit Mt Kenya as it appears there is cessation of hostilities
Post by: RV Pundit on October 30, 2020, 10:14:48 AM
Gachagua who was stealing for Kiunjuri and his bro has Phd in money laundering. ARA found nothing. 12B vanished to thin air. Stop dreaming. Ruto learnt from Moi-Biwott how to launder money. My friend the money is wired abroad - and brought back as investment. You'll hear some Mauritus Equity fund buying stake in some random kenya company. How does ARA trace that.

ARA is great for corrupt goons without sophisticated money laundering schemes. Matiangi type who go and buy plots in Ngong and build apartments.

Otherwise Ruto for example keep all his known assets forever indebted. Weston has 1B kshs loan from KCB. You take it down - KCB drinks water. These are tricks they learnt in Moi era - you steal land - and immediately use your connection to get bank loan - and have the bank charged it. Now if gov re-posses it - the bank loses.

Arc will now take gachagua wealth and reduce him to a commoner and 5 years from today he may serve time in jail. Thst is a good start. Gok has the prosecution powers and enforcement of court orders. When judge rules ruto hotel and assets seized it is the govt that executes these orders. Raila can just come to power order that ruto corruption be a priority and bang your thief is hot soup
Title: Re: Ruto visit Mt Kenya as it appears there is cessation of hostilities
Post by: RV Pundit on October 30, 2020, 10:20:13 AM
The account had balance of Kshs 777,000 - despite total transaction of 12B Kshs.
https://www.reactorreview.com/?p=21282
Title: Re: Ruto visit Mt Kenya as it appears there is cessation of hostilities
Post by: KenyanPlato on October 30, 2020, 10:40:03 AM
Lol...kamale used to do that for I think these goons. 5 trillion they have stolen. Pundit you are an idiot not to steal and pull your family ahead. It is just a waste of your opportunity

They have located 5.2 billion. So he was laundering for all the governors and cabinet. Possible drug money too and gold scams
Title: Re: Ruto visit Mt Kenya as it appears there is cessation of hostilities
Post by: RV Pundit on October 30, 2020, 10:48:48 AM
They found movement of 5B. Gachagua was bag holder for his brother and Kiunjuri. On his own I doubt he can get those contracts - this is why people enter politics - so you can get the power to order tenders to be awarded to your own companies through proxies. Kiunjuri and his bro on their little party - were obviously stealing Nyeri and other counties funds. Then governors also steal for each other - Bungoma steal in Nyeri - and Nyeri steal in Bungoma.

Kiunjuri - in 2016 declared he was a billionaire - and I was suprised. The tout you despised.

Yeah we have wasted our talents :) we should be billionaire if we entered politics.

Lol...kamale used to do that for I think these goons. 5 trillion they have stolen. Pundit you are an idiot not to steal and pull your family ahead. It is just a waste of your opportunity

They have located 5.2 billion. So he was laundering for all the governors and cabinet. Possible drug money too and gold scams
Title: Re: Ruto visit Mt Kenya as it appears there is cessation of hostilities
Post by: KenyanPlato on October 30, 2020, 10:56:56 AM
I am thinking of setting aside 20 million and getting in. It is worthy a shot to rob idiots. Kiunjuri assets were more in land in places like Savanah where he owns land worthy 100 million. He can be liquidated easily but uhuru likes him and doesn't want to harm him. Plus he is smart he knows to not antagonize uhuru.

Kiunjuri declared assets of over 300 million. Gachagua late brother assets are about 1.5 billion. Uhuru can,snatch that
Title: Re: Ruto visit Mt Kenya as it appears there is cessation of hostilities
Post by: Nefertiti on October 30, 2020, 11:04:05 AM
Nope - GoK (asset recovery, KRA) freeze your accounts or rentals. Tge burden if proof is on Gachagua or Kidero to prove innocence- otherwise their property already seized. Gachagua assets better be hidden after they froze 200m. That the easy peasy civil bit.

Now come to criminal: you get charged and released on tough bail conditions. It basically gag you from bareknackle attacks on GoK/BBI. This why MK, Sonko, Duale play hopeless softball. Sonko if he has nothing to lose would be very lethal- now a mere askari - non-politician- run circles around him. Of course noone believes he didn't read the transfer deed  - obviously he was blackmailed that he will follow news from Kamiti or Manyani uless he surrender.

Now your alleycat and MKs are toothless bulldogs. GoK is not a joke.


You overrate gov abilities and power. They have none of those powers. All they can do is take you to court. Judiciary ndio mambo yote.
Yes. It baffles me why a Gachagua can dare take on GoK - ana kichaa - he will be left penniless.
Title: Re: Ruto visit Mt Kenya as it appears there is cessation of hostilities
Post by: RV Pundit on October 30, 2020, 11:04:23 AM
The wealthiest of them, Mr Kiunjuri with Sh798 million, served in the National Assembly as MP for Laikipia East Constituency for 15 uninterrupted years — three parliamentary terms — and as an assistant minister in President Kibaki’s administration.

I am thinking of setting aside 20 million and getting in. It is worthy a shot to rob idiots. Kiunjuri assets were more in land in places like Savanah where he owns land worthy 100 million. He can be liquidated easily but uhuru likes him and doesn't want to harm him. Plus he is smart he knows to not antagonize uhuru.

Kiunjuri declared assets of over 300 million. Gachagua late brother assets are about 1.5 billion. Uhuru can,snatch that
Title: Re: Ruto visit Mt Kenya as it appears there is cessation of hostilities
Post by: RV Pundit on October 30, 2020, 11:06:07 AM
ARA need court order. Criminal cases end with bail. The gov you wants - died with Moi. This one is helpless. Judiciary has annualed Uhuru win, dissolved parliament and just declared 23 laws null and void. This is a new kenya. Modern democratic kenya we long desired. Sio upuzi ya BBI - sijui Ombusdman nonsense to supervise judiciary. Judiciary should be FIERCELY INDEPENDENT - with appeal mechanism and reviews for all decisions.

Police, CID and Uhuru - are just drama for two days - take you to court - and presumption of innocence kick in.

Nope - GoK (asset recovery, KRA) freeze your accounts or rentals. Tge burden if proof is on Gachagua or Kidero to prove innocence- otherwise their property already seized. Gachagua assets better be hidden after they froze 200m. That the easy peasy civil bit.

Now come to criminal: you get charged and released on tough bail conditions. It basically gag you from bareknackle attacks on GoK/BBI. This why MK, Sonko, Duale play hopeless softball. Sonko if he has nothing to lose would be very lethal- now a mere askari - non-politician- run circles around him. Of course noone believes he didn't read the transfer deed  - obviously he was blackmailed that he will follow news from Kamiti or Manyani uless he surrender.

Now your alleycat and MKs are toothless bulldogs. GoK is not a joke.


You overrate gov abilities and power. They have none of those powers. All they can do is take you to court. Judiciary ndio mambo yote.
Yes. It baffles me why a Gachagua can dare take on GoK - ana kichaa - he will be left penniless.
Title: Re: Ruto visit Mt Kenya as it appears there is cessation of hostilities
Post by: Nefertiti on October 30, 2020, 12:24:36 PM
That funny since you been singing everyone is pro-Mobutu but scared shitless - are they scared of feckless GoK? Of course Uhuru doesn't have Moi power but 90% of politicians have skeletons- so it a nightmare when DCI or KRA suddenly discover you have never paid tax for years. Gachagua 200m is frozen and he must prove how he got it from meagre 1m salary and indebted business. So the imaginary services he delivered need to materialize or else. MK or Sonko are shadow-boxing because they don't want to report to DCI every week - or get locked up for 3 years as case proceed. Baba Yao foulmouth is mute - he out on bail and not keen to taste raw beans again. You need to get DCI or NIS will sniff out any dirty dealings including those fake FDI - they can plant evidence of witness or evidence tampering and lock you up. I mean Miguna is in freezing Montreal - for swearing Raila - judicial independence gani sasa  :)

How is Maraga doing after nullifying Uhuru win? 8) He has been making incoherent noises about budget squeeze - sijui 30 judges not sworn in - and he is CJ. Mwilu has dragging case and can't be CJ easily. Now Maraga issue advisory to dissolve parliament- and Weldon Korir who has dirty linen promptly annul it.

Only very few, very foxy crooks - Mobutu, Raila, Kiraitus(?) - can take on GoK. They hide the money- and have too much clout to be locked up or intimidated. Of course their minions pay the price - Gachagua or Migunas. Mobutu prolly has millions of liquid bitcoins - hard assets like hotel or apartments can be problematic. Visible stuff can be illegally confiscated. Even Cayman or Swiss is not safe enough.


ARA need court order. Criminal cases end with bail. The gov you wants - died with Moi. This one is helpless. Judiciary has annualed Uhuru win, dissolved parliament and just declared 23 laws null and void. This is a new kenya. Modern democratic kenya we long desired. Sio upuzi ya BBI - sijui Ombusdman nonsense to supervise judiciary. Judiciary should be FIERCELY INDEPENDENT - with appeal mechanism and reviews for all decisions.

Police, CID and Uhuru - are just drama for two days - take you to court - and presumption of innocence kick in.

Nope - GoK (asset recovery, KRA) freeze your accounts or rentals. Tge burden if proof is on Gachagua or Kidero to prove innocence- otherwise their property already seized. Gachagua assets better be hidden after they froze 200m. That the easy peasy civil bit.

Now come to criminal: you get charged and released on tough bail conditions. It basically gag you from bareknackle attacks on GoK/BBI. This why MK, Sonko, Duale play hopeless softball. Sonko if he has nothing to lose would be very lethal- now a mere askari - non-politician- run circles around him. Of course noone believes he didn't read the transfer deed  - obviously he was blackmailed that he will follow news from Kamiti or Manyani uless he surrender.

Now your alleycat and MKs are toothless bulldogs. GoK is not a joke.


You overrate gov abilities and power. They have none of those powers. All they can do is take you to court. Judiciary ndio mambo yote.
Yes. It baffles me why a Gachagua can dare take on GoK - ana kichaa - he will be left penniless.
Title: Re: Ruto visit Mt Kenya as it appears there is cessation of hostilities
Post by: Njuri Ncheke on October 30, 2020, 01:10:56 PM
Kiraitu would be the most cunning and richest of them crooks I presume, guy is not worth less than 10B in hard cash and property.
Title: Re: Ruto visit Mt Kenya as it appears there is cessation of hostilities
Post by: Nefertiti on October 30, 2020, 01:34:04 PM
Kiraitu would be the most cunning and richest of them crooks I presume, guy is not worth less than 10B in hard cash and property.

Yes Kiraitu (with Kibaki) skimmed Anglo Leasing and Tritons. Now he is governor strictly aligned with BBI. I don't see any conviction or basically zero principles. He just knows which side his bread is buttered. With all Muthauras, Ephraim Mainas MK is not even in that league - he was Asst Minister and kept some change.
Title: Re: Ruto visit Mt Kenya as it appears there is cessation of hostilities
Post by: RV Pundit on October 30, 2020, 02:35:13 PM
Of course gov can still play dirty but pretty much judiciary is stop them on their tracks. It's not for lack of trying.
That funny since you been singing everyone is pro-Mobutu but scared shitless - are they scared of feckless GoK? Of course Uhuru doesn't have Moi power but 90% of politicians have skeletons- so it a nightmare when DCI or KRA suddenly discover you have never paid tax for years. Gachagua 200m is frozen and he must prove how he got it from meagre 1m salary and indebted business. So the imaginary services he delivered need to materialize or else. MK or Sonko are shadow-boxing because they don't want to report to DCI every week - or get locked up for 3 years as case proceed. Baba Yao foulmouth is mute - he out on bail and not keen to taste raw beans again. You need to get DCI or NIS will sniff out any dirty dealings including those fake FDI - they can plant evidence of witness or evidence tampering and lock you up. I mean Miguna is in freezing Montreal - for swearing Raila - judicial independence gani sasa  :)

How is Maraga doing after nullifying Uhuru win? 8) He has been making incoherent noises about budget squeeze - sijui 30 judges not sworn in - and he is CJ. Mwilu has dragging case and can't be CJ easily. Now Maraga issue advisory to dissolve parliament- and Weldon Korir who has dirty linen promptly annul it.

Only very few, very foxy crooks - Mobutu, Raila, Kiraitus(?) - can take on GoK. They hide the money- and have too much clout to be locked up or intimidated. Of course their minions pay the price - Gachagua or Migunas. Mobutu prolly has millions of liquid bitcoins - hard assets like hotel or apartments can be problematic. Visible stuff can be illegally confiscated. Even Cayman or Swiss is not safe enough.


ARA need court order. Criminal cases end with bail. The gov you wants - died with Moi. This one is helpless. Judiciary has annualed Uhuru win, dissolved parliament and just declared 23 laws null and void. This is a new kenya. Modern democratic kenya we long desired. Sio upuzi ya BBI - sijui Ombusdman nonsense to supervise judiciary. Judiciary should be FIERCELY INDEPENDENT - with appeal mechanism and reviews for all decisions.

Police, CID and Uhuru - are just drama for two days - take you to court - and presumption of innocence kick in.

Nope - GoK (asset recovery, KRA) freeze your accounts or rentals. Tge burden if proof is on Gachagua or Kidero to prove innocence- otherwise their property already seized. Gachagua assets better be hidden after they froze 200m. That the easy peasy civil bit.

Now come to criminal: you get charged and released on tough bail conditions. It basically gag you from bareknackle attacks on GoK/BBI. This why MK, Sonko, Duale play hopeless softball. Sonko if he has nothing to lose would be very lethal- now a mere askari - non-politician- run circles around him. Of course noone believes he didn't read the transfer deed  - obviously he was blackmailed that he will follow news from Kamiti or Manyani uless he surrender.

Now your alleycat and MKs are toothless bulldogs. GoK is not a joke.


You overrate gov abilities and power. They have none of those powers. All they can do is take you to court. Judiciary ndio mambo yote.
Yes. It baffles me why a Gachagua can dare take on GoK - ana kichaa - he will be left penniless.
Title: Re: Ruto visit Mt Kenya as it appears there is cessation of hostilities
Post by: RV Pundit on October 30, 2020, 02:37:01 PM
Very much doubt he has anything beyond Meru. 10B is a lot of cash.
Kiraitu would be the most cunning and richest of them crooks I presume, guy is not worth less than 10B in hard cash and property.
Title: Re: Ruto visit Mt Kenya as it appears there is cessation of hostilities
Post by: Njuri Ncheke on October 30, 2020, 05:32:52 PM
Very much doubt he has anything beyond Meru. 10B is a lot of cash.
Kiraitu would be the most cunning and richest of them crooks I presume, guy is not worth less than 10B in hard cash and property.
You are joking with Kiraitu, that guy has properties in South Africa. Anglo leasing, triniton wasn't NYS scandal. It was another level.
Title: Re: Ruto visit Mt Kenya as it appears there is cessation of hostilities
Post by: Nowayhaha on October 30, 2020, 06:30:45 PM
I am thinking of setting aside 20 million and getting in. It is worthy a shot to rob idiots. Kiunjuri assets were more in land in places like Savanah where he owns land worthy 100 million. He can be liquidated easily but uhuru likes him and doesn't want to harm him. Plus he is smart he knows to not antagonize uhuru.

Kiunjuri declared assets of over 300 million. Gachagua late brother assets are about 1.5 billion. Uhuru can,snatch that

20M wont even get you elected an MCA especially that you dont have a name and I mean a brand here