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Title: Uhuru’s kin disowns elders who visited Raila in Bondo
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Uhuru’s kin disowns elders who visited Raila in Bondo
Saturday, October 17, 2020

By Simon Ciuri

Former Kiambu governor William Kabogo accused Mr  Peter Kenneth and Mr David Murathe of trying to divide the community and to “auction them for self-gain” ahead of the 2022 General Election.

National Council of Elders patron Kung’u Muigai, who is President Uhuru Kenyatta’s cousin, on Friday disowned Kikuyu elders who visited the rural home of ODM leader Raila Odinga last Saturday, saying they were neither sent by the President nor the council.

Mr Muigai made the remarks while in Thika, Kiambu County, where he attended a requiem mass of Mr Peter Mbothi and Mr Christopher Kariuki, who were killed two weeks ago in Kenol, Murang’a County, during a chaotic church fund-raiser organised by Kiharu MP Ndindi Nyoro and Kandara’s Alice Wahome, whose chief guest was Deputy President William Ruto.


“President Kenyatta did not send anyone to Bondo and was not aware of the visit. It was the work of Mr Peter Kenneth and Mr David Murathe. The National Council of Elders never sent them,” said Mr Muigai, who urged Mt Kenya leaders to desist from politics of opportunism, which he said will divide the country.

Mr Muigai’s sentiments were echoed by former Kiambu governor William Kabogo, who accused Mr Kenneth and Mr Murathe of trying to divide the community and to “auction them for self-gain” ahead of the 2022 General Election.
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Title: Re: Uhuru’s kin disowns elders who visited Raila in Bondo
Post by: Njuri Ncheke on October 17, 2020, 11:56:53 AM
Baba and your robots robina and co wake up and smell the coffee, already you were conned by fake wazees over 100Million. When will you stop being empty debes?
Title: Re: Uhuru’s kin disowns elders who visited Raila in Bondo
Post by: KenyanPlato on October 17, 2020, 12:01:47 PM
Kabogo is a narcissist. He thinks kikuyus owe him something. He can't believe crackhead uhuru has all the power to diss him. He is now irked that blue eyed boy pk is upstag..ing him. Bondo thing is now in history books it has been passed by events.. today we await bbi..
Title: Re: Uhuru’s kin disowns elders who visited Raila in Bondo
Post by: Njuri Ncheke on October 17, 2020, 12:10:31 PM
Kabogo is a narcissist. He thinks kikuyus owe him something. He can't believe crackhead uhuru has all the power to diss him. He is now irked that blue eyed boy pk is upstag..ing him. Bondo thing is now in history books it has been passed by events.. today we await bbi..
Okay what about Kungu Muigai who is very close to Uhuru and its well known Uhuru consults him widely Is he also a narcissist?
Title: Re: Uhuru’s kin disowns elders who visited Raila in Bondo
Post by: KenyanPlato on October 17, 2020, 12:19:14 PM
Kungu is a patriot. He was WW FRIEND a man of his word. Ww was my mentor so kungu is a father to me
Title: Re: Uhuru’s kin disowns elders who visited Raila in Bondo
Post by: Njuri Ncheke on October 17, 2020, 12:32:57 PM
Kungu is a patriot. He was WW FRIEND a man of his word. Ww was my mentor so kungu is a father to me
Yes Kungu is widely respected. Most likely even in Kenyatas family they are non partisan, mama ngina has been pushing Uhuru to mend relationship with Ruto if only for peace sake,that's why Uhuru will never tosha  anyone 2022. Kabogo on the other hand is just following mood on the ground, Ruto is unstoppable especially among the mountain youth. Walk around Isiolo have never come across a single baba supporter be it Somali,samburu,meru,borana or turkana it's that bad,actually only thing uniting the kabilas is Hustler nation.
Title: Re: Uhuru’s kin disowns elders who visited Raila in Bondo
Post by: RV Pundit on October 17, 2020, 12:43:36 PM
Precisely. Raila and Robinas are living in fools paradise. Raila politics expired the day he refused to participate in re-run election. That was the expiry date. There is no serious person who can back someone afraid to contest an election he has gone to annual.

He should at least have run so hard and lost crying rigging again. He betrayed his supporters, judiciary and basically all the institutions.

Uhuru has done his research - he knows Baba alikwisha kitambo - even Mijikenda have abandoned him. Raila only support now is Luo Nyanza and even there - serious questions are being asked.

Best thing for Baba to do please retire. But for Ruto sake please don't do it until after 2022 august. Nothing brings GEMA out than project defeat Raila.

Yes Kungu is widely respected. Most likely even in Kenyatas family they are non partisan, mama ngina has been pushing Uhuru to mend relationship with Ruto if only for peace sake,that's why Uhuru will never tosha  anyone 2022. Kabogo on the other hand is just following mood on the ground, Ruto is unstoppable especially among the mountain youth. Walk around Isiolo have never come across a single baba supporter be it Somali,samburu,meru,borana or turkana it's that bad,actually only thing uniting the kabilas is Hustler nation.
Title: Re: Uhuru’s kin disowns elders who visited Raila in Bondo
Post by: KenyanPlato on October 17, 2020, 12:59:12 PM
Kenyan politics is a zero sum game. The kenyattas from the father side are more honorable and hate to see what ngina turned their family name into. Ngina was born by corrupt chief muhoho. Kenyatta was an orphan that got abused by his uncle who was an alcoholic. This made kenyatta in my opinion become a needy unbalanced person. The muigais are a different breed and do not go stealing ovyo ovyo..about

On kikuyu youth they will elect ruto because they are hurting and naive. They thought crackhead uhuru could deliver power and prosperity to them. They will suffer from kaelnjin nationalism and will be back to fold within 2 years of ruto
Presidency. Anyway you meru are waiting like vultures for everyone else to do the work. You are one lazy nation. Docile scavengers
 
Title: Re: Uhuru’s kin disowns elders who visited Raila in Bondo
Post by: RV Pundit on October 17, 2020, 01:08:12 PM
Ngengi Muigai look like a thug to me - and so is Magana - I met someoone working for him - he tells me Mzee is good. Beth Mugo look pretty nasty too. Muhoho and Mama Ngina look like sophisticated thugs compared to them. I worked with a Muhoho  Kenyatta (must be grandsons) - and he was very humble guy - despite their wealth.
Kenyan politics is a zero sum game. The kenyattas from the father side are more honorable and hate to see what ngina turned their family name into. Ngina was born by corrupt chief muhoho. Kenyatta was an orphan that got abused by his uncle who was an alcoholic. This made kenyatta in my opinion become a needy unbalanced person. The muigais are a different breed and do not go stealing ovyo ovyo..about

On kikuyu youth they will elect ruto because they are hurting and naive. They thought crackhead uhuru could deliver power and prosperity to them. They will suffer from kaelnjin nationalism and will be back to fold within 2 years of ruto
Presidency. Anyway you meru are waiting like vultures for everyone else to do the work. You are one lazy nation. Docile scavengers
 
Title: Re: Uhuru’s kin disowns elders who visited Raila in Bondo
Post by: Njuri Ncheke on October 17, 2020, 02:21:27 PM
Kenyan politics is a zero sum game. The kenyattas from the father side are more honorable and hate to see what ngina turned their family name into. Ngina was born by corrupt chief muhoho. Kenyatta was an orphan that got abused by his uncle who was an alcoholic. This made kenyatta in my opinion become a needy unbalanced person. The muigais are a different breed and do not go stealing ovyo ovyo..about

On kikuyu youth they will elect ruto because they are hurting and naive. They thought crackhead uhuru could deliver power and prosperity to them. They will suffer from kaelnjin nationalism and will be back to fold within 2 years of ruto
Presidency. Anyway you meru are waiting like vultures for everyone else to do the work. You are one lazy nation. Docile scavengers
What do you want Merus to do.? They are firmly in Mzito Rutos corner under lock and key.
You see some Kikuyus like you will always abhor jealous against us simply because you see us as not going through the trials and tribulations that you encounter in Kenya. Simply we choose to stick to our homelands and live peacefuly, we don't have to scheme or watch our backs constantly(this is a reason women complain okuyu are weak in bed) because you worry a warrior has overran your kaploti in nakuru or eldoret hence cannot concentrate well kwa kusoma katiba when needed.
Again Kikuyu will always act as a buffer zone for us against kabila cia ruguru, that's how things are and when mzito Ruto is PORK 22 we will again seat on the Mbig table having spent the least energy.
Title: Re: Uhuru’s kin disowns elders who visited Raila in Bondo
Post by: Fairandbalanced on October 17, 2020, 03:51:18 PM
I used to work with this Meru woman from deep deep inside of Meru. The most embarrassing human I have ever encountered here in the USA, she used to Gucokia Kīmīra so hard that muzungus would literally throw up in their mouth. For those who do not speak Kikuyu, that action is when you loudly blow air forcefully inwards through your nose and swallow the mucus. I did not want that woman anywhere near me or even being associated with her. Njuri is so proud of Merus being isolated in their own stupidity, kutembea ni kuona mengi, Kikuyus have been able to expand their base and build a very powerful diaspora, it’s called vision and that’s why we are not buying into wheelbarrownomics, we want more, we deserve more. Two years is long time in politics, my family alone, let’s say 150 strong, no one even wants to hear the name Ruto, things are spreading slowly and people will eventually wake up to this stupidity.
Title: Re: Uhuru’s kin disowns elders who visited Raila in Bondo
Post by: Njuri Ncheke on October 17, 2020, 04:00:42 PM
I used to work with this Meru woman from deep deep inside of Meru. The most embarrassing human I have ever encountered here in the USA, she used to Gucokia Kīmīra so hard that muzungus would literally throw up in their mouth. For those who do not speak Kikuyu, that action is when you loudly blow air forcefully inwards through your nose and swallow the mucus. I did not want that woman anywhere near me or even being associated with her. Njuri is so proud of Merus being isolated in their own stupidity, kutembea ni kuona mengi, Kikuyus have been able to expand their base and build a very powerful diaspora, it’s called vision and that’s why we are not buying into wheelbarrownomics, we want more, we deserve more. Two years is long time in politics, my family alone, let’s say 150 strong, no one even wants to hear the name Ruto, things are spreading slowly and people will eventually wake up to this stupidity.
Mzito Ruto is in Meru as you blow a fuse and suffer a melt down, wewe ndio utacokia kimira na kikora this time. Hate on Merus but we are loyal for a noble cause. Your relatives will continue singing your tune to get those dollars you hustling in US but come kura utashangaa.
Title: Re: Uhuru’s kin disowns elders who visited Raila in Bondo
Post by: Njuri Ncheke on October 17, 2020, 04:32:22 PM
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Title: Re: Uhuru’s kin disowns elders who visited Raila in Bondo
Post by: Fairandbalanced on October 17, 2020, 04:34:38 PM
There is no hatred here or meltdown. I have also met some awesome sophisticated Merus. The fact is, two years is a long time in politics, the only person campaigning right now is Ruto even though Mutua is also drawing crowds on his listening tour. Do not write off the other side before you hear them, they could have something better than Moi2 wheelbarrownomics. For me, I cannot in good conscience vote for someone like Ruto and that’s actually before I saw what he is all about. If the other side does not have an agenda that I can believe in, I will stay this one out.
Title: Re: Uhuru’s kin disowns elders who visited Raila in Bondo
Post by: RV Pundit on October 17, 2020, 04:41:18 PM
We didn't see long insha on Uhuru - who is 10 times worse than Ruto. Please save these inshas for yourself. We know your problem. You don't have a good kikuyu candidate to support. Therefore you're praying that one will emerge soon.
There is no hatred here or meltdown. I have also met some awesome sophisticated Merus. The fact is, two years is a long time in politics, the only person campaigning right now is Ruto even though Mutua is also drawing crowds on his listening tour. Do not write off the other side before you hear them, they could have something better than Moi2 wheelbarrownomics. For me, I cannot in good conscience vote for someone like Ruto and that’s actually before I saw what he is all about. If the other side does not have an agenda that I can believe in, I will stay this one out.
Title: Re: Uhuru’s kin disowns elders who visited Raila in Bondo
Post by: Fairandbalanced on October 17, 2020, 05:08:17 PM
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Title: Re: Uhuru’s kin disowns elders who visited Raila in Bondo
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Title: Re: Uhuru’s kin disowns elders who visited Raila in Bondo
Post by: Nowayhaha on October 17, 2020, 06:08:20 PM
Relatives seem to be already telling Uhuru you are taking us through a very dangerous curve. Once the people are nolonger with you even relatives keep away funny enough Uhuru has been in these shoes before when his uncle Muhoho and cousin Beth Mugo in 2002 opted for Kibaki instead.
Title: Re: Uhuru’s kin disowns elders who visited Raila in Bondo
Post by: RV Pundit on October 17, 2020, 06:26:01 PM
When you have money - all you need is fame and people to respect and listen to you (higher maslow law needs)- when people start seeing your as good for nothing dynasties - it really hurt these guys.

This is what is hurting them dynasties - esp if the people from your own tribe or village don't give a damn anymore what you say.

They have to do a 360 and try to run infront - to lead the masses to where they want :) . That I expect we see a lot in 2021.

Relatives seem to be already telling Uhuru you are taking us through a very dangerous curve. Once the people are nolonger with you even relatives keep away funny enough Uhuru has been in these shoes before when his uncle Muhoho and cousin Beth Mugo in 2002 opted for Kibaki instead.
Title: Re: Uhuru’s kin disowns elders who visited Raila in Bondo
Post by: KenyanPlato on October 17, 2020, 06:28:15 PM
Lol..Njuri why do your women sometimes be like this? We have one in my hood. She is kichwa maji kabisa. She is so uninvited to so many parties because she bring her religiousujinga..smack inside the party.
When I was in high school my friend that lived in isiolo told me that Meru girls wore Duke socks and army barret kofias even when it was 35 degrees. He was a Casanova but would never touch meru girls

Anyway you will get hooves and intestines after we get the house mutton


Title: Re: Uhuru’s kin disowns elders who visited Raila in Bondo
Post by: Njuri Ncheke on October 17, 2020, 06:57:07 PM
Lol..Njuri why do your women sometimes be like this? We have one in my hood. She is kichwa maji kabisa. She is so uninvited to so many parties because she bring her religiousujinga..smack inside the party.
When I was in high school my friend that lived in isiolo told me that Meru girls wore Duke socks and army barret kofias even when it was 35 degrees. He was a Casanova but would never touch meru girls

Anyway you will get hooves and intestines after we get the house mutton
House mutton na baba? You have to accept a new kikuyu ruling class will rise end is nigh for current one that you belong to for first time descendants of mau mau and disillusioned okuyus will taste real power under President WSR Not even demeaning Meru women can stop that.
Title: Re: Uhuru’s kin disowns elders who visited Raila in Bondo
Post by: KenyanPlato on October 17, 2020, 07:03:07 PM
You are a socially inept person. Did you grow up in a poor household? Social mobility doesn't happen. Even in USA there is very little social mobility. Those idiots with ruto will die in the same place they are socially today. Even the luos will take 3 generation to get to where kikuyus were in the 80s. It is simple arithmetic.
Title: Re: Uhuru’s kin disowns elders who visited Raila in Bondo
Post by: Njuri Ncheke on October 17, 2020, 08:12:55 PM
You are a socially inept person. Did you grow up in a poor household? Social mobility doesn't happen. Even in USA there is very little social mobility. Those idiots with ruto will die in the same place they are socially today. Even the luos will take 3 generation to get to where kikuyus were in the 80s. It is simple arithmetic.
Spare that for the west in Africa all it takes is a change of government or a revolution or overthrow of a gvt and the shoe is on the other side. Wachanga madawa njambaa US will fck you up
Title: Re: Uhuru’s kin disowns elders who visited Raila in Bondo
Post by: KenyanPlato on October 17, 2020, 08:41:36 PM
Never happens. Once an elite or rich you always be. Even in Rwanda rich hutus are in Paris eating croissant and Rich Tustis made a come back. Merus will be in the bottom of gema totem pole. Waiting for asali to drip from the apex kikuyus bottom
Title: Re: Uhuru’s kin disowns elders who visited Raila in Bondo
Post by: Njuri Ncheke on October 17, 2020, 09:59:18 PM
Never happens. Once an elite or rich you always be. Even in Rwanda rich hutus are in Paris eating croissant and Rich Tustis made a come back. Merus will be in the bottom of gema totem pole. Waiting for asali to drip from the apex kikuyus bottom
We are doing very well, Kikuyus to us nowadays are just a bunch of poor hoi polloi with 0 land that have to face arrows and slaughter in far away land. Njamba come i employ you as my manager at least you will be near home.
Title: Re: Uhuru’s kin disowns elders who visited Raila in Bondo
Post by: RV Pundit on October 17, 2020, 10:27:57 PM
Yes Meru is richest county or least poorest - so I don't understand why Limuru folks here are still thinking it's 1970s.
Title: Re: Uhuru’s kin disowns elders who visited Raila in Bondo
Post by: KenyanPlato on October 17, 2020, 10:42:25 PM
Never happens. Once an elite or rich you always be. Even in Rwanda rich hutus are in Paris eating croissant and Rich Tustis made a come back. Merus will be in the bottom of gema totem pole. Waiting for asali to drip from the apex kikuyus bottom
We are doing very well, Kikuyus to us nowadays are just a bunch of poor hoi polloi with 0 land that have to face arrows and slaughter in far away land. Njamba come i employ you as my manager at least you will be near home.

Not gonna happen. I have a few of your people on my payroll
Title: Re: Uhuru’s kin disowns elders who visited Raila in Bondo
Post by: Arcadian_Dreamer on October 18, 2020, 12:33:50 AM
I used to work with this Meru woman from deep deep inside of Meru. The most embarrassing human I have ever encountered here in the USA, she used to Gucokia Kīmīra so hard that muzungus would literally throw up in their mouth.

There is no hatred here or meltdown

Haha  :D

Look at this cartoon. You should become a Kenyan politician already.

Title: Re: Uhuru’s kin disowns elders who visited Raila in Bondo
Post by: Nowayhaha on October 18, 2020, 09:56:02 AM
When you have money - all you need is fame and people to respect and listen to you (higher maslow law needs)- when people start seeing your as good for nothing dynasties - it really hurt these guys.

This is what is hurting them dynasties - esp if the people from your own tribe or village don't give a damn anymore what you say.

They have to do a 360 and try to run infront - to lead the masses to where they want :) . That I expect we see a lot in 2021.



Uhuru managed to do this in  2007 and 2017 . Its not farfetched if he attempts  to do it again . First it will be his relatives telling me , sober up and see things for what they are , followed by his close friends and business associates then the elite .
If he does not change his stance and goes ahead with his BBI support and try to scuttle 2022 elections , It will be the end of a dynasty .
Title: Re: Uhuru’s kin disowns elders who visited Raila in Bondo
Post by: Nowayhaha on October 18, 2020, 10:02:21 AM
Lol..Njuri why do your women sometimes be like this? We have one in my hood. She is kichwa maji kabisa. She is so uninvited to so many parties because she bring her religiousujinga..smack inside the party.
When I was in high school my friend that lived in isiolo told me that Meru girls wore Duke socks and army barret kofias even when it was 35 degrees. He was a Casanova but would never touch meru girls

Anyway you will get hooves and intestines after we get the house mutton
House mutton na baba? You have to accept a new kikuyu ruling class will rise end is nigh for current one that you belong to for first time descendants of mau mau and disillusioned okuyus will taste real power under President WSR Not even demeaning Meru women can stop that.

Even in Mombasa we saw the end of TSS , Bawazir, Sajjad  dynasties and the rise of Joho , Lagat Dynasties .
Title: Re: Uhuru’s kin disowns elders who visited Raila in Bondo
Post by: Nowayhaha on October 18, 2020, 10:04:37 AM
You are a socially inept person. Did you grow up in a poor household? Social mobility doesn't happen. Even in USA there is very little social mobility. Those idiots with ruto will die in the same place they are socially today. Even the luos will take 3 generation to get to where kikuyus were in the 80s. It is simple arithmetic.

Evident apart from Kenya and U.S. you have never been in any other part of the world .  Travel more to Eastern Europe and Asia you will notice change of regime in some cases brings prosperity
Title: Re: Uhuru’s kin disowns elders who visited Raila in Bondo
Post by: Njuri Ncheke on October 18, 2020, 12:10:28 PM
Lol..Njuri why do your women sometimes be like this? We have one in my hood. She is kichwa maji kabisa. She is so uninvited to so many parties because she bring her religiousujinga..smack inside the party.
When I was in high school my friend that lived in isiolo told me that Meru girls wore Duke socks and army barret kofias even when it was 35 degrees. He was a Casanova but would never touch meru girls

Anyway you will get hooves and intestines after we get the house mutton
House mutton na baba? You have to accept a new kikuyu ruling class will rise end is nigh for current one that you belong to for first time descendants of mau mau and disillusioned okuyus will taste real power under President WSR Not even demeaning Meru women can stop that.

Even in Mombasa we saw the end of TSS , Bawazir, Sajjad  dynasties and the rise of Joho , Lagat Dynasties .
Well said. I know people like njamba and fnb are just bitter many people have made it in Kenya without having to slave in the west especially US. I know a couple of guys I studied with went to UKand now are on welfare when one came to Kenya and visited me he was visibly jealous of what have accomplished while he is slaving in UK. Njamba and fnb want Kenya to remain a dynasty so that they can be poking fun at their relatives and Friends they left suffering in Kenya. Its the crab mentality, these 2 diaspora kikuyus are beyond redemption. I again offer to employ njamba as a manager and fnb as a driver, let them take this offer while it last. East or west home is best.
Title: Re: Uhuru’s kin disowns elders who visited Raila in Bondo
Post by: KenyanPlato on October 19, 2020, 02:49:40 AM
Njuri,I can employ your whole clan. My inheritance from my grandfather is still unused siting at Barclays..bank accruing interest. I care less what happens in that hell hole.,my hope is you all get your shit together so that I can get few hands stretching to me for handouts. I really think the racist Michael Joseph is right when he say kenyans are peculiar people. You are really inferior homo sapiens that are stuck in the evolutionary wheel. I really never associate with kenyans. You are the only people I interact with and then my parents. 7 got no time for kenyans Sheridan
 They love begging it is like you all addicted to dependency. A person like you really spending your life raising zebus is in a semi arid jungle shows how daft even the outlier kenyans are. One,of these days uneducated borana urchin will come and feed you to,hyenas. If your dad is still farming beans then I know you are yet to evolve.
Title: Re: Uhuru’s kin disowns elders who visited Raila in Bondo
Post by: Nefertiti on October 19, 2020, 03:18:31 AM
The kamba I know are also very anti-Mobutu. Luhya are split - Maragoli have no time for Mobutu - Bukusu are 50-50 Mobutu v Raila. As at today I agree with Pundit Mobutu has part of Luhya.

Kikuyu old generation are strongly anti-Mobutu. The youth are split - half are rabidly pro-Mobutu - half waiting for Uhuru direction but leaning Raila. It the basis for my awarding Raila 2/3 of Gema - provided Uhuru-PK stick with him.

I used to work with this Meru woman from deep deep inside of Meru. The most embarrassing human I have ever encountered here in the USA, she used to Gucokia Kīmīra so hard that muzungus would literally throw up in their mouth. For those who do not speak Kikuyu, that action is when you loudly blow air forcefully inwards through your nose and swallow the mucus. I did not want that woman anywhere near me or even being associated with her. Njuri is so proud of Merus being isolated in their own stupidity, kutembea ni kuona mengi, Kikuyus have been able to expand their base and build a very powerful diaspora, it’s called vision and that’s why we are not buying into wheelbarrownomics, we want more, we deserve more. Two years is long time in politics, my family alone, let’s say 150 strong, no one even wants to hear the name Ruto, things are spreading slowly and people will eventually wake up to this stupidity.
Title: Re: Uhuru’s kin disowns elders who visited Raila in Bondo
Post by: Nefertiti on October 19, 2020, 03:26:50 AM
Fairbalanced, Njamba and Noway are good sample of Kikuyu split. Mobutu has minority.

We didn't see long insha on Uhuru - who is 10 times worse than Ruto. Please save these inshas for yourself. We know your problem. You don't have a good kikuyu candidate to support. Therefore you're praying that one will emerge soon.
There is no hatred here or meltdown. I have also met some awesome sophisticated Merus. The fact is, two years is a long time in politics, the only person campaigning right now is Ruto even though Mutua is also drawing crowds on his listening tour. Do not write off the other side before you hear them, they could have something better than Moi2 wheelbarrownomics. For me, I cannot in good conscience vote for someone like Ruto and that’s actually before I saw what he is all about. If the other side does not have an agenda that I can believe in, I will stay this one out.
Title: Re: Uhuru’s kin disowns elders who visited Raila in Bondo
Post by: RV Pundit on October 19, 2020, 08:00:20 AM
Fairbalanced, Njamba and Noway are good sample of Kikuyu split. Mobutu has minority.

We didn't see long insha on Uhuru - who is 10 times worse than Ruto. Please save these inshas for yourself. We know your problem. You don't have a good kikuyu candidate to support. Therefore you're praying that one will emerge soon.
There is no hatred here or meltdown. I have also met some awesome sophisticated Merus. The fact is, two years is a long time in politics, the only person campaigning right now is Ruto even though Mutua is also drawing crowds on his listening tour. Do not write off the other side before you hear them, they could have something better than Moi2 wheelbarrownomics. For me, I cannot in good conscience vote for someone like Ruto and that’s actually before I saw what he is all about. If the other side does not have an agenda that I can believe in, I will stay this one out.
That is your sampling frame...lol...that you are basing your analysis on..desperate rails girl
Title: Re: Uhuru’s kin disowns elders who visited Raila in Bondo
Post by: Nowayhaha on October 19, 2020, 03:37:40 PM
Njuri,I can employ your whole clan. My inheritance from my grandfather is still unused siting at Barclays..bank accruing interest. I care less what happens in that hell hole.,my hope is you all get your shit together so that I can get few hands stretching to me for handouts. I really think the racist Michael Joseph is right when he say kenyans are peculiar people. You are really inferior homo sapiens that are stuck in the evolutionary wheel. I really never associate with kenyans. You are the only people I interact with and then my parents. 7 got no time for kenyans Sheridan
 They love begging it is like you all addicted to dependency. A person like you really spending your life raising zebus is in a semi arid jungle shows how daft even the outlier kenyans are. One,of these days uneducated borana urchin will come and feed you to,hyenas. If your dad is still farming beans then I know you are yet to evolve.

Inheritance from Grandpa , how much was it  and why brag about it if it has not been able to double up . Somebody who detests Kenyans and is the first to advice them who to vote for .Dont you see the irony in it . It simply means you wish doom for kenyans and partly the reason you want them to vote for Raila .
Title: Re: Uhuru’s kin disowns elders who visited Raila in Bondo
Post by: Nowayhaha on October 19, 2020, 03:44:14 PM
The kamba I know are also very anti-Mobutu. Luhya are split - Maragoli have no time for Mobutu - Bukusu are 50-50 Mobutu v Raila. As at today I agree with Pundit Mobutu has part of Luhya.

Kikuyu old generation are strongly anti-Mobutu. The youth are split - half are rabidly pro-Mobutu - half waiting for Uhuru direction but leaning Raila. It the basis for my awarding Raila 2/3 of Gema - provided Uhuru-PK stick with him.



Ruto will perform better than Uhuru in Kamba land  ,
Kikuyu old generation are anti Ruto , does this imply pro Raila ? Actually the older generation hate Raila with zeal and zest . The youth know nothing but Railas fight against GEMA as from 2003 , changing that will require a miracle . Majority of the Gema  youth who will be eligible to  vote come 2022 will have been born before 2004 going down wards . They were born into 2007 P.E.V. perpetuated by Raila and they know Raila as their tormentor , they saw their parents voting for UhuRuto come 2013  and  2017  concincing them to vote for Raila is like selling pork  in North Eastern  . A good politician should consider this in the equation for  2022 votes 
Title: Re: Uhuru’s kin disowns elders who visited Raila in Bondo
Post by: Nowayhaha on October 19, 2020, 03:45:13 PM
Fairbalanced, Njamba and Noway are good sample of Kikuyu split. Mobutu has minority.

We didn't see long insha on Uhuru - who is 10 times worse than Ruto. Please save these inshas for yourself. We know your problem. You don't have a good kikuyu candidate to support. Therefore you're praying that one will emerge soon.
There is no hatred here or meltdown. I have also met some awesome sophisticated Merus. The fact is, two years is a long time in politics, the only person campaigning right now is Ruto even though Mutua is also drawing crowds on his listening tour. Do not write off the other side before you hear them, they could have something better than Moi2 wheelbarrownomics. For me, I cannot in good conscience vote for someone like Ruto and that’s actually before I saw what he is all about. If the other side does not have an agenda that I can believe in, I will stay this one out.

Several times Ive said Im in noway a GEMA  , its very clear where Im from 
Title: Re: Uhuru’s kin disowns elders who visited Raila in Bondo
Post by: Nowayhaha on October 19, 2020, 03:47:48 PM
Fairbalanced, Njamba and Noway are good sample of Kikuyu split. Mobutu has minority.

We didn't see long insha on Uhuru - who is 10 times worse than Ruto. Please save these inshas for yourself. We know your problem. You don't have a good kikuyu candidate to support. Therefore you're praying that one will emerge soon.
There is no hatred here or meltdown. I have also met some awesome sophisticated Merus. The fact is, two years is a long time in politics, the only person campaigning right now is Ruto even though Mutua is also drawing crowds on his listening tour. Do not write off the other side before you hear them, they could have something better than Moi2 wheelbarrownomics. For me, I cannot in good conscience vote for someone like Ruto and that’s actually before I saw what he is all about. If the other side does not have an agenda that I can believe in, I will stay this one out.
That is your sampling frame...lol...that you are basing your analysis on..desperate rails girl

Njamba a well known Raila fanatic since wordpress , Mashada, Jukwaa, nipate era  - The so called GEMA who voted for Raila in  2007 and 2013 will still vote for him  in  2022 if they will still be alive
Fairandbalance is not a Kyuk .  Uses a translating program to showcase he is a kyuk .
Title: Re: Uhuru’s kin disowns elders who visited Raila in Bondo
Post by: RV Pundit on October 19, 2020, 10:12:15 PM
Selling Raila in central or mt kenya is quickest way to political oblivion. You can as well jump into lake victoria and you might catch a fish instead. Raila has been hated in Central since forever. Apart from a very brief period of 2002 - Raila has not worked with GEMA.
Ruto will perform better than Uhuru in Kamba land  ,
Kikuyu old generation are anti Ruto , does this imply pro Raila ? Actually the older generation hate Raila with zeal and zest . The youth know nothing but Railas fight against GEMA as from 2003 , changing that will require a miracle . Majority of the Gema  youth who will be eligible to  vote come 2022 will have been born before 2004 going down wards . They were born into 2007 P.E.V. perpetuated by Raila and they know Raila as their tormentor , they saw their parents voting for UhuRuto come 2013  and  2017  concincing them to vote for Raila is like selling pork  in North Eastern  . A good politician should consider this in the equation for  2022 votes 
Title: Re: Uhuru’s kin disowns elders who visited Raila in Bondo
Post by: Njuri Ncheke on October 20, 2020, 10:58:17 AM
Raira is banking his luck on Gatheca in mt. Kenya he knows he is hated and loathed in equal terms thats why he won't break a sweat even visiting the area, but expect kieleweke to buy some youth and ferry them as crowds when he finally visit as pr. I love how Mzito Ruto roams mt. Kenya without a single worry mingling with wananchi as if he is a local area MP or MCA
Title: Re: Uhuru’s kin disowns elders who visited Raila in Bondo
Post by: Arcadian_Dreamer on October 21, 2020, 07:38:26 AM
Raira is banking his luck on Gatheca in mt. Kenya he knows he is hated and loathed in equal terms thats why he won't break a sweat even visiting the area, but expect kieleweke to buy some youth and ferry them as crowds when he finally visit as pr. I love how Mzito Ruto roams mt. Kenya without a single worry mingling with wananchi as if he is a local area MP or MCA

All that is moot according to Kichwa, presidents are selected not elected by popular consent. I agree with him.

Deep state and the foreign powers have settled on Laila to shepherd the Kwinya colony. The object is to frustrate Chinese ambitions, Ruto is seen as too close to Beijing. Agwambo is favored by the Western stakeholders in Kenya - US, UK, EU & Israel.

Alassane Outtara was similarly backed by the West after long sojourn in opposition politics.
 
Title: Re: Uhuru’s kin disowns elders who visited Raila in Bondo
Post by: RV Pundit on October 21, 2020, 07:51:40 AM
2012 how did foreign actor go..kenya president is elected by Kenya...ingine ni wishful thinking
Title: Re: Uhuru’s kin disowns elders who visited Raila in Bondo
Post by: Arcadian_Dreamer on October 21, 2020, 06:14:35 PM
2012 how did foreign actor go..kenya president is elected by Kenya...ingine ni wishful thinking

You are deluding yourself. Ruto may soon find himself in a "who moved my cheese situation". We are eagerly waiting for BBI. If it delivers on the proposed three key areas, namely:

1. Political inclusion

2. Equity in distribution of opportunities and resources,

3. Cessation of "do or die" contests that translate to violence and economic losses every election cycle.



Then Ruto will be swept into dustbin of history, the International Community will firmly deal with any spoilers.


Title: Re: Uhuru’s kin disowns elders who visited Raila in Bondo
Post by: RV Pundit on October 21, 2020, 06:38:55 PM
Here in lies your problem. You're waiting. Ruto is creating it. Power is not given. It's taken. Continue waiting for Raila to be made PORK. Ruto will make himself PORK - by winning in margins impossible to rig - or by making propsect of him rigging so plainful - nobody will dare it - or if they dare it - by grinding the gov to a halt in few hours. That is how power is taken.

Meanwhile join Kalonzo in the waiting room. As soon as GEMA is done with it - they will hand it over to you :)

Meanwhile Ruto is spending millions daily and graveyard hours - and countless campaigns and meetings - to make it HAPPEN.

Nobody will give you power. You have to grab it almost by force. The hustler nation for example is attempt to grab power. Uhuru will try to crash it then fail then maybe negotiate or he will be crushed.

You are deluding yourself. Ruto may soon find himself in a "who moved my cheese situation". We are eagerly waiting for BBI. If it delivers on the proposed three key areas, namely:

1. Political inclusion

2. Equity in distribution of opportunities and resources,

3. Cessation of "do or die" contests that translate to violence and economic losses every election cycle.



Then Ruto will be swept into dustbin of history, the International Community will firmly deal with any spoilers.