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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: RV Pundit on October 08, 2020, 06:36:22 PM
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You cannot block fundraising meeting :)
Poor Matiangi lives in Nyamira and yet his ambition will be killed hapo tu.
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Ruto is the Kenyan Robin Hood , Govt is very fearful of him
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I see all Gusii kahuna were at SH with Uhuru. Only 3 MPs support Mobutu.
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Gusii are hoping Uhuru will make Matiangi his presidential project. The same way PK, Mutua, Kalonzo and Raila are all hoping to be Uhuru project. That is all there is to see. The smart Gusii knows this is a pipe dream and are sticking with Ruto.
I see all Gusii kahuna were at SH with Uhuru. Only 3 MPs support Mobutu.
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I see all Gusii kahuna were at SH with Uhuru. Only 3 MPs support Mobutu.
Cant you comment without throwing elected politicians around , whats your obsession with elected politicians
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I guess only 3 MPs and DG Maang'i are smart enough to see your obvious perspective - Ongeris and shebang must be so stupid. Or well they have been intimidated.
Mobutu has 70% hustlers strangely nobody serious follow him in entire country :o Up is down theory.
Gusii are hoping Uhuru will make Matiangi his presidential project. The same way PK, Mutua, Kalonzo and Raila are all hoping to be Uhuru project. That is all there is to see. The smart Gusii knows this is a pipe dream and are sticking with Ruto.
I see all Gusii kahuna were at SH with Uhuru. Only 3 MPs support Mobutu.
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I see all Gusii kahuna were at SH with Uhuru. Only 3 MPs support Mobutu.
Cant you comment without throwing elected politicians around , whats your obsession with elected politicians
Once you grasp correlation vs causation let me know. It is a basic concept.
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Matiangi has most powerful office - all those guys are linning up Matiangi office - for deals, jobs and tenders. But ultimately Matiangi has zero ground game. He has zero political network or experience. He is hoping he can just switch jobs through executive order.
Gusii ground we will know soon enough.
I guess only 3 MPs and DG Maang'i are smart enough to see your obvious perspective - Ongeris and shebang must be so stupid. Or well they have been intimidated.
Mobutu has 70% hustlers strangely nobody serious follow him in entire country :o Up is down theory.
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I see all Gusii kahuna were at SH with Uhuru. Only 3 MPs support Mobutu.
Cant you comment without throwing elected politicians around , whats your obsession with elected politicians
Once you grasp correlation vs causation let me know. It is a basic concept.
And which doesn't and has never worked .
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I see all Gusii kahuna were at SH with Uhuru. Only 3 MPs support Mobutu.
Cant you comment without throwing elected politicians around , whats your obsession with elected politicians
Once you grasp correlation vs causation let me know. It is a basic concept.
And which doesn't and has never worked .
MPs, governors or elected leaders don't cause the popularity or victory - rather they follow the winning horse. Your mentor Pundit claims most have been intimidated - which is arguable but better than your denial and intransigence.
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Kenyans know what Ruto knows that an outsider who is hated by those in government do not win elections in Kenya. This is political eating and entertainment time.
Matiangi has most powerful office - all those guys are linning up Matiangi office - for deals, jobs and tenders. But ultimately Matiangi has zero ground game. He has zero political network or experience. He is hoping he can just switch jobs through executive order.
Gusii ground we will know soon enough.
I guess only 3 MPs and DG Maang'i are smart enough to see your obvious perspective - Ongeris and shebang must be so stupid. Or well they have been intimidated.
Mobutu has 70% hustlers strangely nobody serious follow him in entire country :o Up is down theory.
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Just because Raila failed doesn't mean everyone will fail to beat the system. Raila succeed with Kibaki in 2002. And then he lost the plot because he has the sisyphian kind of curse where he cannot maintain friendship and support..and every election he starts from the scratch.
In 2002 - Raila and company beat Moi system.
In 2005 - Raila and company beat Kibaki system.
In 2007 - Raila should have won if Kallonzo had been selected.
In 2013 - Raila would have won he if he had treated Ruto right. He lost all kalenjin votes and got Kamba votes. That got him stuck in 2007 position.
UhuRuto beat Kibaki-Raila system.
In 2017 - to be honest he really had no path to success - not with Uhuru keeping a tight winning coalition happy - by bending backwards to Ruto. That is a lesson Rala skipped in 2007.
Now 2022 - Raila is going to election again almost back to square one - where he is only assured of Luo votes - having completely destoryed NASA while trying to destroy Jubilee.
Now even if he wins part of Jubilee - it waste of money and time - because NASA is dead.
It would be a easy task of adding 5% to NASA 45%.
Kenyans know what Ruto knows that an outsider who is hated by those in government do not win elections in Kenya. This is political eating and entertainment time.
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Indeed the kikuyus I know - have resigned to "we love Mobutu but we know Uhuru will rig in Raila."
Kenyans know what Ruto knows that an outsider who is hated by those in government do not win elections in Kenya. This is political eating and entertainment time.
Matiangi has most powerful office - all those guys are linning up Matiangi office - for deals, jobs and tenders. But ultimately Matiangi has zero ground game. He has zero political network or experience. He is hoping he can just switch jobs through executive order.
Gusii ground we will know soon enough.
I guess only 3 MPs and DG Maang'i are smart enough to see your obvious perspective - Ongeris and shebang must be so stupid. Or well they have been intimidated.
Mobutu has 70% hustlers strangely nobody serious follow him in entire country :o Up is down theory.
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I see all Gusii kahuna were at SH with Uhuru. Only 3 MPs support Mobutu.
Cant you comment without throwing elected politicians around , whats your obsession with elected politicians
Once you grasp correlation vs causation let me know. It is a basic concept.
And which doesn't and has never worked .
MPs, governors or elected leaders don't cause the popularity or victory - rather they follow the winning horse. Your mentor Pundit claims most have been intimidated - which is arguable but better than your denial and intransigence.
Case closed
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Indeed the kikuyus I know - have resigned to "we love Mobutu but we know Uhuru will rig in Raila."
Kenyans know what Ruto knows that an outsider who is hated by those in government do not win elections in Kenya. This is political eating and entertainment time.
Matiangi has most powerful office - all those guys are linning up Matiangi office - for deals, jobs and tenders. But ultimately Matiangi has zero ground game. He has zero political network or experience. He is hoping he can just switch jobs through executive order.
Gusii ground we will know soon enough.
I guess only 3 MPs and DG Maang'i are smart enough to see your obvious perspective - Ongeris and shebang must be so stupid. Or well they have been intimidated.
Mobutu has 70% hustlers strangely nobody serious follow him in entire country :o Up is down theory.
Outgoing Presidents Moi in 2002 failed with Uhuru and in 2013 Kibaki failed with Mudavadi.Tough luck
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I see all Gusii kahuna were at SH with Uhuru. Only 3 MPs support Mobutu.
Cant you comment without throwing elected politicians around , whats your obsession with elected politicians
Once you grasp correlation vs causation let me know. It is a basic concept.
And which doesn't and has never worked .
MPs, governors or elected leaders don't cause the popularity or victory - rather they follow the winning horse. Your mentor Pundit claims most have been intimidated - which is arguable but better than your denial and intransigence.
Case closed
Okay.
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Indeed the kikuyus I know - have resigned to "we love Mobutu but we know Uhuru will rig in Raila."
Kenyans know what Ruto knows that an outsider who is hated by those in government do not win elections in Kenya. This is political eating and entertainment time.
Matiangi has most powerful office - all those guys are linning up Matiangi office - for deals, jobs and tenders. But ultimately Matiangi has zero ground game. He has zero political network or experience. He is hoping he can just switch jobs through executive order.
Gusii ground we will know soon enough.
I guess only 3 MPs and DG Maang'i are smart enough to see your obvious perspective - Ongeris and shebang must be so stupid. Or well they have been intimidated.
Mobutu has 70% hustlers strangely nobody serious follow him in entire country :o Up is down theory.
Outgoing Presidents Moi in 2002 failed with Uhuru and in 2013 Kibaki failed with Mudavadi.Tough luck
Moi first choice was Uhuru followed by Kibaki - he had big issue with Raila and Saitotis. Kibaki had Uhuru(to)'s back and sent Kalonzo all over to oppose ICC. Uhuruto toured the region with ministers in tow - Poghisio, Eugene, Mwakwere used to accompany them to see M7, Kikwete, Kagame. No CS can attend Mobutu rally now let alone go out of the country with him. Basically the dynasties don't want anyone promising reforms. Raila learnt this lesson after many failures- Mobutu is at Raila 2007 reforms and teargas stage.
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Noway and Pundit - this headline shows you who Kibaki was backing in 2012. Definitely not Raila.
Why Ruto is courting Museveni and Kikwete
June 20th 2011
https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/business/article/2000037469/why-ruto-is-courting-museveni-and-kikwete
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Indeed the kikuyus I know - have resigned to "we love Mobutu but we know Uhuru will rig in Raila."
Kenyans know what Ruto knows that an outsider who is hated by those in government do not win elections in Kenya. This is political eating and entertainment time.
Matiangi has most powerful office - all those guys are linning up Matiangi office - for deals, jobs and tenders. But ultimately Matiangi has zero ground game. He has zero political network or experience. He is hoping he can just switch jobs through executive order.
Gusii ground we will know soon enough.
I guess only 3 MPs and DG Maang'i are smart enough to see your obvious perspective - Ongeris and shebang must be so stupid. Or well they have been intimidated.
Mobutu has 70% hustlers strangely nobody serious follow him in entire country :o Up is down theory.
Outgoing Presidents Moi in 2002 failed with Uhuru and in 2013 Kibaki failed with Mudavadi.Tough luck
Moi first choice was Uhuru followed by Kibaki - he had big issue with Raila and Saitotis. Kibaki had Uhuru(to)'s back and sent Kalonzo all over to oppose ICC. Uhuruto toured the region with ministers in tow - Poghisio, Eugene, Mwakwere used to accompany them to see M7, Kikwete, Kagame. No CS can attend Mobutu rally now let alone go out of the country with him. Basically the dynasties don't want anyone promising reforms. Raila learnt this lesson after many failures- Mobutu is at Raila 2007 reforms and teargas stage.
Moi had managed to give Raila SG in KANU, It was Ruto snd team who advices Moi to abandon Raila later for Uhuru
Kibaki and his deep state then were convinced Uhuru with ICC cases would not make it to the ballot secondly they thought it was so soon to have another Kikuyu succededing Kibaki so they settled for Mudavadi , registered a party and handed it over to Mudavadi. Even Kibakis nephew vied on UDF. This is well known .
The same deep state jumped ship when they saw UhuRutos candidacy too strong. This time deep state unlike in 2013 when they jumped ship and supported UhuRuto are prepared to enter into politics if they dont succeed in stopping Ruto . Thats the only difference
Ruto got it wrong in 2002 and in 2007 and got it right in 2013 and 2017. Raila got it right in 2002 and got it wrong in 97,2007,2013 and 2017 . He is on another wrong footing for 2022
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Raila had half the gov - appointed IEBC, was in charge of procurement, had 35 ministers/ass minister ouf othe 72 Kabiniet :). He run as prime minister. What more leverage do you want. Ruto and Uhuru were mere Mps facing ICC.
Noway and Pundit - this headline shows you who Kibaki was backing in 2012. Definitely not Raila.
Why Ruto is courting Museveni and Kikwete
June 20th 2011
https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/business/article/2000037469/why-ruto-is-courting-museveni-and-kikwete
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Right. Raila is mere opposition leader :) Mobutu has half CS now and appointed Chebukati; he wrote the electoral and security laws he is now crying about. Police were independent but Mobutu and Duale changed that. What more leverage can he get?
Raila had half the gov - appointed IEBC, was in charge of procurement, had 35 ministers/ass minister ouf othe 72 Kabiniet :). He run as prime minister. What more leverage do you want. Ruto and Uhuru were mere Mps facing ICC.
Noway and Pundit - this headline shows you who Kibaki was backing in 2012. Definitely not Raila.
Why Ruto is courting Museveni and Kikwete
June 20th 2011
https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/business/article/2000037469/why-ruto-is-courting-museveni-and-kikwete
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Indeed the kikuyus I know - have resigned to "we love Mobutu but we know Uhuru will rig in Raila."
It will take more courage to rig Ruto than let him win peacefuly. They all know the outcome of that. Ruto is no Raira to be sent a coronation band rehearsal for his inauguration while he is being rigged.
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Indeed the kikuyus I know - have resigned to "we love Mobutu but we know Uhuru will rig in Raila."
It will take more courage to rig Ruto than let him win peacefuly. They all know the outcome of that. Ruto is no Raira to be sent a coronation band rehearsal for his inauguration while he is being rigged.
Mobutu's PEV leverage is complicated by his reliance on Mt Kenya backing. Even now if he is stopped from holding rallies - his base has no Raila-Luo ability to force GoK's hand without tearing his own coalition apart. Damned if he does, damned if he does not.
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By the way Njuri I read that your Meru warriors will protect poor Kikuyu incase Nandi decide to commit genocide. Are you now swallowing your words?
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Of course Ruto is not running from point of total weakness..he technical still has half the gov...probably get as good intelligence briefing as Uhuru...and has his guys all over gov...albeit under radar. The Matiangi-Kibicho at interior ministry missuing police and prov administration are only concern.
Right. Raila is mere opposition leader :) Mobutu has half CS now and appointed Chebukati; he wrote the electoral and security laws he is now crying about. Police were independent but Mobutu and Duale changed that. What more leverage can he get?
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By the way Njuri I read that your Meru warriors will protect poor Kikuyu incase Nandi decide to commit genocide. Are you now swallowing your words?
When I mean they know the outcome its not violence against innocent kikuyu but against the dynasties and elites. No problem, I advocate for the overthrow of the current deepstate and their clonies. What I will always be against is if violence takes a tribal nature i.e in Rift. But Ruto is quite intelligent to beat this he has roused the masses so that the enemy is the dynasties and elites. I dont think Kalenjins are also interested in causing harm to poor kikuyus. Kikuyu elites are working overtime to potray Ruto has violent so that by 22 he has some baggage they can convince the hoi poloi okuyu not to vote for him. They ferried so called elders to bondo to create a narrative that baba has grassroot support in central which you all know is a mirage. Guys like mutahi ngunyi have already smelled the coffee and are now saying its ok for baba just to get 6% of GEMA votes because No way baba is sellable kwa mulima. By the way why doesn't baba go to mlima and hold rallies??? He also knows the truth.
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Matiang'i getting initiated into politics in his homeground. Good thing he is a billionaire and hopefully has learnt how to launder it clean.
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When does he plan to resign from interior ministry :) because I think he intend to run for PORK while he is powerful minister :) He knows without interior ministry - he is nothing. Whoever become new Interior Minister will do his thing - to avoid ICC. The dillema facing Uhuru orphans.
he man lives in Nyamira but is getting no traction even there.
If he has to resign six months to election - then he has 1yr to harass kenyans - and make his PORK bid DOA by becoming even more unpopular with corona guy.
His best bet would have been to go for for Nyamira governor. But come 2022 - he will be jobless and dealing with EACC in several court cases.
Matiang'i getting initiated into politics in his homeground. Good thing he is a billionaire and hopefully has learnt how to launder it clean.
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Matiang'i getting initiated into politics in his homeground. Good thing he is a billionaire and hopefully has learnt how to launder it clean.
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If Matiangi doesnt play his cards well he might also lose the Governors post . He was already winning in Kisii , he should have been impartial but for him Kifua lazima ieonekane .