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Title: The Elite worst fear is The Poor Uniting..
Post by: Nowayhaha on October 08, 2020, 04:11:36 PM


Title: Re: The Elite worst fear is The Poor Uniting..
Post by: RV Pundit on October 08, 2020, 04:45:59 PM
Yes they are getting scared. This one could lead to revolution. They will try to stop it instead of embracing it and killing it.
Title: Re: The Elite worst fear is The Poor Uniting..
Post by: Kadudu on October 08, 2020, 04:52:57 PM
You should be getting scared. You think Uhuru, Raila and Gideon Moi are the only ones who will suffer when the poor rise against the others in Kenya? It is you who lives on a salary, has a house in mid income area and has no assets out of the country. Places like Karen, Lavington will be cordoned off while Kileleshwa, Kilimani, even Buru Buru will be run over by slum dwellers.
Be aware of what you preach and think of whom is preaching this gospel of hustler nation.

Yes they are getting scared. This one could lead to revolution. They will try to stop it instead of embracing it and killing it.
Title: Re: The Elite worst fear is The Poor Uniting..
Post by: RV Pundit on October 08, 2020, 05:02:39 PM
I know I saw it in PEV. If Annan didn't come warriors were going for rich in the village. In many places with police absent - they had erected roadblocks and were charging money -ala somalia. The chiefs and their ass chiefs all disappeared in 2nd day as they were being hunted down. I saw an ass chief of another location hidding in my neighbours. They were accused of being part of Kibaki na Kazi.

The revolution will come depend on how Uhuru treat this. If poor sense the gov is getting scared - they will kick gov butt

Otherwise Hustler Nation I don't think can be stopped now. The idea should be to embrace it and to compete on pro-poor policies. When Ruto gives out wheelbarrow - Let Uhuru/Raila also unleash something.

But unleashing violence, police and such is courting a revolution - because once the poor starts - it will be downhill.

You should be getting scared. You think Uhuru, Raila and Gideon Moi are the only ones who will suffer when the poor rise against the others in Kenya? It is you who lives on a salary, has a house in mid income area and has no assets out of the country. Places like Karen, Lavington will be cordoned off while Kileleshwa, Kilimani, even Buru Buru will be run over by slum dwellers.
Be aware of what you preach and think of whom is preaching this gospel of hustler nation.

Yes they are getting scared. This one could lead to revolution. They will try to stop it instead of embracing it and killing it.
Title: Re: The Elite worst fear is The Poor Uniting..
Post by: Kadudu on October 08, 2020, 05:10:41 PM
Hustler Nation does not exist and will never exist. It is just a terminology to catipulate Ruto to State House and it will end there. Will he as president have enough money to give the 40 million poor Kenyans each a wheelbarrow? Even when all have wheelbarrows, then? My take is even if Ruto lands in SH he will have no idea where to start. The man has no vision for Kenya economical nor political. His main drive is to catch up financially with the Mois and Kenyattas and thereby create his own dynasty.

I know I saw it in PEV. If Annan didn't come warriors were going for rich in the village. In many places with police absent - they had erected roadblocks and were charging money -ala somalia. The chiefs and their ass chiefs all disappeared in 2nd day as they were being hunted. I saw an ass chief of another location hidding in my neighbours. They were accused of being part of Kibaki na Kazi.

The revolution will come depend on how Uhuru treat this. If poor sense the gov is getting scared - they will kick gov butt

Otherwise Hustler Nation I don't think can be stopped now. The idea should be to embrace it and to compete on pro-poor policies. When Ruto gives out wheelbarrow - Let Uhuru/Raila also unleash something.

But unleashing violence, police and such is courting a revolution - because once the poor starts - it will be downhill.
Title: Re: The Elite worst fear is The Poor Uniting..
Post by: KenyanPlato on October 08, 2020, 05:27:02 PM
I know I saw it in PEV. If Annan didn't come warriors were going for rich in the village. In many places with police absent - they had erected roadblocks and were charging money -ala somalia. The chiefs and their ass chiefs all disappeared in 2nd day as they were being hunted down. I saw an ass chief of another location hidding in my neighbours. They were accused of being part of Kibaki na Kazi.

The revolution will come depend on how Uhuru treat this. If poor sense the gov is getting scared - they will kick gov butt

Otherwise Hustler Nation I don't think can be stopped now. The idea should be to embrace it and to compete on pro-poor policies. When Ruto gives out wheelbarrow - Let Uhuru/Raila also unleash something.

But unleashing violence, police and such is courting a revolution - because once the poor starts - it will be downhill.

You should be getting scared. You think Uhuru, Raila and Gideon Moi are the only ones who will suffer when the poor rise against the others in Kenya? It is you who lives on a salary, has a house in mid income area and has no assets out of the country. Places like Karen, Lavington will be cordoned off while Kileleshwa, Kilimani, even Buru Buru will be run over by slum dwellers.
Be aware of what you preach and think of whom is preaching this gospel of hustler nation.

Yes they are getting scared. This one could lead to revolution. They will try to stop it instead of embracing it and killing it.



Educate these fools Pundit. Once uhuru flees next it will be the poor gangs raping your wife and daughter or mother while you watch
Title: Re: The Elite worst fear is The Poor Uniting..
Post by: RV Pundit on October 08, 2020, 05:32:50 PM
Does not exist and will never exist :) Lol.
How did Sonko become Nairobi governor
If not for your poor parents and sibling in Ololo.
This has always existed. It just never managed to emerge from tribalism.
Hustler Nation is real. It's why Uhuru is holding crisis meeting and issuing fatwa.
Hustler Nation does not exist and will never exist. It is just a terminology to catipulate Ruto to State House and it will end there. Will he as president have enough money to give the 40 million poor Kenyans each a wheelbarrow? Even when all have wheelbarrows, then? My take is even if Ruto lands in SH he will have no idea where to start. The man has no vision for Kenya economical nor political. His main drive is to catch up financially with the Mois and Kenyattas and thereby create his own dynasty.
Title: Re: The Elite worst fear is The Poor Uniting..
Post by: RV Pundit on October 08, 2020, 05:34:02 PM
Can't beat people with nothing to lose with police batons.
They are making Ruto's little movement go national.
Educate these fools Pundit. Once uhuru flees next it will be the poor gangs raping your wife and daughter or mother while you watch
Title: Re: The Elite worst fear is The Poor Uniting..
Post by: Kichwa on October 08, 2020, 05:51:07 PM

Pundit does not know what he is talking about.  Revolutions eat their own children.  Even poor people do not want a chaotic hoi poloi revolution because it will send them into refugee camps in Ug and TZ.  When the marauding poor youths take over, Ruto will not be able to control.  Actually the revolution will be hijacked by left wing radicals and Ruto will be their first victim.  They will attack, small business, destroy the tiny middle class, loot destroy and  burn rich peoples property.  Rape, maim, kill, kidnap  and terrorize poor citizens. Just think Rwanda, Somali and the 2007/2008 Post elections violence.   Ruto knows he will never be president and he want to burn and destroy Kenya just because he cannot be president.  Thank God to handshake.  RAO and Ouru will not let him.

You should be getting scared. You think Uhuru, Raila and Gideon Moi are the only ones who will suffer when the poor rise against the others in Kenya? It is you who lives on a salary, has a house in mid income area and has no assets out of the country. Places like Karen, Lavington will be cordoned off while Kileleshwa, Kilimani, even Buru Buru will be run over by slum dwellers.
Be aware of what you preach and think of whom is preaching this gospel of hustler nation.

Yes they are getting scared. This one could lead to revolution. They will try to stop it instead of embracing it and killing it.
Title: Re: The Elite worst fear is The Poor Uniting..
Post by: KenyanPlato on October 08, 2020, 05:56:02 PM
Can't beat people with nothing to lose with police batons.
They are making Ruto's little movement go national.
Educate these fools Pundit. Once uhuru flees next it will be the poor gangs raping your wife and daughter or mother while you watch

Kenya is cursed. This will end in tears on eventide. I want my parents just to live out their last days in ke and once they are gone I will move on and turn the lights off on kenya. Ruto will bring the house down. I hope your community will finally choose life over war. Kikuyus too should back off and let this end now.
Title: Re: The Elite worst fear is The Poor Uniting..
Post by: RV Pundit on October 08, 2020, 06:09:27 PM
Poor people know what they want.
They want a gov that will enact pro-poor policies and will think about them.
Not talk BBI - position for few already very rich people.
Revolution will only turn violent if police and gov try to block it.

Once Ruto is in - hustlers will be in charge - and they will enact pro-poor policies.

This is what is needed in Kenya.


Pundit does not know what he is talking about.  Revolutions eat their own children.  Even poor people do not want a chaotic hoi poloi revolution because it will send them into refugee camps in Ug and TZ.  When the marauding poor youths take over, Ruto will not be able to control.  Actually the revolution will be hijacked by left wing radicals and Ruto will be their first victim.  They will attack, small business, destroy the tiny middle class, loot destroy and  burn rich peoples property.  Rape, maim, kill, kidnap  and terrorize poor citizens. Just think Rwanda, Somali and the 2007/2008 Post elections violence.   Ruto knows he will never be president and he want to burn and destroy Kenya just because he cannot be president.  Thank God to handshake.  RAO and Ouru will not let him.

Title: Re: The Elite worst fear is The Poor Uniting..
Post by: Kadudu on October 08, 2020, 06:12:20 PM
Pundit, you blog here as if you live in Mathare. Open your eyes and see Ruto and Sonko are not hustlers. They belong to the 0.00001% of the elite of Kenya.
Yes, Sonko became governor of Nairobi. Did he deliver? So Sonko Rescue Team is the answer to Nairobi's problems?
My poor parents and siblings in Ololo do not need your hustler nation. Take it to the shags modus people like yourself.
Btw, Uhuru is your creation. I was never his disciple unlike you. I thought you told us he will deliver us to Canaan. What happened?

Does not exist and will never exist :) Lol.
How did Sonko become Nairobi governor
If not for your poor parents and sibling in Ololo.
This has always existed. It just never managed to emerge from tribalism.
Hustler Nation is real. It's why Uhuru is holding crisis meeting and issuing fatwa.
Title: Re: The Elite worst fear is The Poor Uniting..
Post by: Kadudu on October 08, 2020, 06:14:54 PM
Poor people know what they want.
They want a gov that will enact pro-poor policies and will think about them.
Not talk BBI - position for few already very rich people.
Revolution will only turn violent if police and gov try to block it.

Once Ruto is in - hustlers will be in charge - and they will enact pro-poor policies.  :D :D :D :D :D

This is what is needed in Kenya.

The rumblings of a madman. Imagine a mama mboga sitting in SH and giving out policy papers to government officials.
Title: Re: The Elite worst fear is The Poor Uniting..
Post by: RV Pundit on October 08, 2020, 06:24:44 PM
Ruto is chief hustler. I think you mistake hustlers for poor people.
The rumblings of a madman. Imagine a mama mboga sitting in SH and giving out policy papers to government officials.
Title: Re: The Elite worst fear is The Poor Uniting..
Post by: RV Pundit on October 08, 2020, 06:26:52 PM
Learn who is a hustler first. I am hustler. You are hustler. Raila is not. Uhuru is not. Gideon is not.

The rich people who hustled their way up - are hustlers.

The rich kids who were born with silver spoon are not hustlers.

Uhuru and Raila and Gideon have never been in matatu for example.

Those are dynstaties totally disconnected from our problem.
That is why they want BBI when Corona is killing poor people

I must warn you supporting dynasties will make you an enemy of hustlers :)

Pundit, you blog here as if you live in Mathare. Open your eyes and see Ruto and Sonko are not hustlers. They belong to the 0.00001% of the elite of Kenya.
Yes, Sonko became governor of Nairobi. Did he deliver? So Sonko Rescue Team is the answer to Nairobi's problems?
My poor parents and siblings in Ololo do not need your hustler nation. Take it to the shags modus people like yourself.
Btw, Uhuru is your creation. I was never his disciple unlike you. I thought you told us he will deliver us to Canaan. What happened?
Title: Re: The Elite worst fear is The Poor Uniting..
Post by: Njuri Ncheke on October 08, 2020, 07:00:57 PM
If Kisii and Nyamira are a headache for the deepstate and matiangi what do they think will happen at proper Ruto strongholds? Gatheca Uhuru is staring at end of Kenyattas hegemony. Gatundu will burn.
Title: Re: The Elite worst fear is The Poor Uniting..
Post by: KenyanPlato on October 08, 2020, 07:48:28 PM
If Kisii and Nyamira are a headache for the deepstate and matiangi what do they think will happen at proper Ruto strongholds? Gatheca Uhuru is staring at end of Kenyattas hegemony. Gatundu will burn.

This is going to harm a lot of innocent kenyans not only uhuru. Pundit is saying this and no one is listening. Ihuri is a coward. He  will make a deall with ruto and leave kenya in chaos like kibaki. A genocide will eventually happen in ke unless we are careful. Raila too is tired and he is not interested in power that much. Ruto should wait for 2022 and take power and move ke forward without a lot of uncessary power struggle that is going to kill the country he wants to rule
Title: Re: The Elite worst fear is The Poor Uniting..
Post by: RV Pundit on October 08, 2020, 10:49:37 PM
Power concede nothing. Ruto has to win and he has now spawned so many threads around dynasties they cannot figure it out how to fight. After police failed...what next.
This is going to harm a lot of innocent kenyans not only uhuru. Pundit is saying this and no one is listening. Ihuri is a coward. He  will make a deall with ruto and leave kenya in chaos like kibaki. A genocide will eventually happen in ke unless we are careful. Raila too is tired and he is not interested in power that much. Ruto should wait for 2022 and take power and move ke forward without a lot of uncessary power struggle that is going to kill the country he wants to rule
Title: Re: The Elite worst fear is The Poor Uniting..
Post by: Fairandbalanced on October 09, 2020, 03:08:59 AM
Only in kukuworld does one imagine the poor rising against the rich but leave Ruto alone. The first thing the poor will occupy is that Ruto hotel built on stolen land, there will be no one to protect it cause it belongs to the leader of the revolution. How will it benefit Ruto to gain the presidency but in the process lose everything? Ruto showed his cards way too early, from what I have seen so far, there is nothing there for intelligent Kenyans to rally around.
Title: Re: The Elite worst fear is The Poor Uniting..
Post by: RV Pundit on October 09, 2020, 03:18:23 AM
Fear mongering. Hustlers will not attack the rich. They will just reject them in leadership and elect their own. Only war would occur if gov was to attempt to mess up with peoples rights and freedom. Otherwise why would the poor attack the rich? But if Uhuru triggers a class war he will get one. If he triggers a  tribal war, he will get one. You trigger it by stopping hustler movement using illegal means. By continuing being insenstitive by pushing unpopular policies. By grand corruption on corona funds and donated corona medical supplies. Gov triggers it by funding thugs like they did it in Muranga. Gov think they have the police - but they don't know the police can be rendered useless very easily - once the people unite and defy them at once - the police will not have backup -  to call - just 3 or 4 helpless police - sorrunded by thousands.
Only in kukuworld does one imagine the poor rising against the rich but leave Ruto alone. The first thing the poor will occupy is that Ruto hotel built on stolen land, there will be no one to protect it cause it belongs to the leader of the revolution. How will it benefit Ruto to gain the presidency but in the process lose everything? Ruto showed his cards way too early, from what I have seen so far, there is nothing there for intelligent Kenyans to rally around.
Title: Re: The Elite worst fear is The Poor Uniting..
Post by: Arcadian_Dreamer on October 09, 2020, 03:51:07 AM
Only in kukuworld does one imagine the poor rising against the rich but leave Ruto alone. The first thing the poor will occupy is that Ruto hotel built on stolen land, there will be no one to protect it cause it belongs to the leader of the revolution. How will it benefit Ruto to gain the presidency but in the process lose everything? Ruto showed his cards way too early, from what I have seen so far, there is nothing there for intelligent Kenyans to rally around.

Ruto is way way down their list of culprits who ought to be hunted down trust me. The fact that he lit the revolutionary fire will also do him favors in the eyes of the masses. Ruto is on the right side of the people. Whether he deserves it or not is another matter.
Title: Re: The Elite worst fear is The Poor Uniting..
Post by: Fairandbalanced on October 09, 2020, 07:09:32 AM
Ruto is part of the problem. He is addicted to government juice which he has been on since his 20s. He does not know how to survive without a tentacle dug deep somewhere in the govt bloodstream. Imagine how many hospitals, roads, schools, dams would have been built with all the money he has stolen, things that would have benefited the real hustlers for years to come. On the other hand, the so called hustler movement collapsing the economy will mean very little hustling going on, their interest is a good economy and peace. I personally have no interest in being led by a hustler, it will only mean diminished future scope of things we can dream on. Most hustler are mark timing trying to satisfy basic needs. How about a person who really hustled in school and educated themselves so they can understand the intricacies of the new world and the new modern economy?
Title: Re: The Elite worst fear is The Poor Uniting..
Post by: Nowayhaha on October 09, 2020, 10:12:02 AM
Only in kukuworld does one imagine the poor rising against the rich but leave Ruto alone. The first thing the poor will occupy is that Ruto hotel built on stolen land, there will be no one to protect it cause it belongs to the leader of the revolution. How will it benefit Ruto to gain the presidency but in the process lose everything? Ruto showed his cards way too early, from what I have seen so far, there is nothing there for intelligent Kenyans to rally around.

So Ruto showed his cards too early but a month ago you were claiming you saw a defeated man . You need to decide which is which ........Things are getting tight for Ruto haters

I watched Ruto and saw a defeated man, the swagger is gone, he looked gaunt and almost in tears. I like the silence treatment from Uhuru, I think he has learned not to overreact from the headlines in Kenya. Kenyan journalisms today is a reflection of the country, very shallow and mediocre. The thing that amazes me is that our friends here can start talking about war this early in the game. I saw  Murkomen’s reaction and could not help thinking that these guys luck the emotional intelligence to match their academics. The threat of beating Kenyans to submission is not going to work, personally I fail to believe that there are Kenyans out there willing to risk limb or life for Ruto’s presidency but that’s just me. If Raila, the best mobilizer in Kenya has never whipped Kenya into a frenzy of full blown civil war, someone like Ruto is going to have people yawning and going about their business at noon on Election Day. Kenyans are selfish, independent and self centered in nature, it’s difficult getting them to fight for anything let a thief like Ruto.
Title: Re: The Elite worst fear is The Poor Uniting..
Post by: RV Pundit on October 09, 2020, 10:16:37 AM
Ruto is part of the problem. He is addicted to government juice which he has been on since his 20s. He does not know how to survive without a tentacle dug deep somewhere in the govt bloodstream. Imagine how many hospitals, roads, schools, dams would have been built with all the money he has stolen, things that would have benefited the real hustlers for years to come. On the other hand, the so called hustler movement collapsing the economy will mean very little hustling going on, their interest is a good economy and peace. I personally have no interest in being led by a hustler, it will only mean diminished future scope of things we can dream on. Most hustler are mark timing trying to satisfy basic needs. How about a person who really hustled in school and educated themselves so they can understand the intricacies of the new world and the new modern economy?

Ruto has PhD..if that is what you want
Title: Re: The Elite worst fear is The Poor Uniting..
Post by: Kadudu on October 09, 2020, 11:05:44 AM
Even Sonko has a Masters degree. Tells it all about Kenyan education titles.

Ruto has PhD..if that is what you want
Title: Re: The Elite worst fear is The Poor Uniting..
Post by: Fairandbalanced on October 09, 2020, 11:56:56 AM
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/bd/economy/state-loses-track-of-sh5bn-in-mp-gachagua-accounts-2460018 Ruto’s point man in Nyeri.
Title: Re: The Elite worst fear is The Poor Uniting..
Post by: Kadudu on October 09, 2020, 12:07:26 PM
Pundit will tell us as long as it is not covid funds, it is in order to loot public funds.

https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/bd/economy/state-loses-track-of-sh5bn-in-mp-gachagua-accounts-2460018 Ruto’s point man in Nyeri.
Title: Re: The Elite worst fear is The Poor Uniting..
Post by: RV Pundit on October 09, 2020, 12:59:44 PM
You know Ruto is the most intellectually complete politician after Kituyi :)
Even Sonko has a Masters degree. Tells it all about Kenyan education titles.

Title: Re: The Elite worst fear is The Poor Uniting..
Post by: RV Pundit on October 09, 2020, 01:00:44 PM
Yes, there are some stealing that are odious even in the stealing world. If you steal corona money that is crazy. But if you steal money meant for SGR - well nobody really dies from it - directly.

moronic version.

If you father give you money to go pay for admission of your sister in hospital and you steal - that is not the same - as stealing money meant for say mabati. your sister could die. the house will not get built.

Pundit will tell us as long as it is not covid funds, it is in order to loot public funds.
Title: Re: The Elite worst fear is The Poor Uniting..
Post by: Pragmatic on October 09, 2020, 01:09:33 PM
You know Ruto is the most intellectually complete politician after Kituyi :)

 :) :) :o Oooh dear..... he is not even half smart, leave alone intellectual!!!
Title: Re: The Elite worst fear is The Poor Uniting..
Post by: RV Pundit on October 09, 2020, 01:15:44 PM
Maybe not in social science - like most of the chattering class - but he has solid BSC (came top in class and awarded scholarship by UON), MSC (completed after 30yrs -with ICC/campaigns), PHD in record few years.
:) :) :o Oooh dear..... he is not even half smart, leave alone intellectual!!!
Title: Re: The Elite worst fear is The Poor Uniting..
Post by: Kadudu on October 09, 2020, 05:55:37 PM
Pundit mistakes eloquence with intellect.

:) :) :o Oooh dear..... he is not even half smart, leave alone intellectual!!!
Title: Re: The Elite worst fear is The Poor Uniting..
Post by: Kadudu on October 09, 2020, 05:57:04 PM
That PhD you can show it to the birds.

Maybe not in social science - like most of the chattering class - but he has solid BSC (came top in class and awarded scholarship by UON), MSC (completed after 30yrs -with ICC/campaigns), PHD in record few years.
Title: Re: The Elite worst fear is The Poor Uniting..
Post by: RV Pundit on October 09, 2020, 06:14:07 PM
Where are the birds?
International Journal of Research in Environmental Science
Volume 4, Issue 4, 2018, PP 1-7
ISSN No. (Online) 2454-9444
Citation: William S. Ruto, et al., "Land Use-Land-Cover Changes in Saiwa Swamp Watershed, Western
Kenya” International Journal of Research in Environmental Science, vol. 4, no. 4, p. 1-7, 2018. http://dx.doi.
org/10.20431/2454-9444.0404001
Copyright: © 2018 Authors. This is an open-access article distributed under the terms of the Creative
Commons Attribution License, which permits unrestricted use, distribution, and reproduction in any medium,
provided the original author and source are credited.
That PhD you can show it to the birds.
Title: Re: The Elite worst fear is The Poor Uniting..
Post by: patel on October 09, 2020, 06:36:22 PM
All Kenya politicians are thieves. No saint. Kenyatta family criminal enterprise has stolen more than you can imagine. Moist family comes in distant second.
Title: Re: The Elite worst fear is The Poor Uniting..
Post by: Arcadian_Dreamer on October 09, 2020, 09:21:21 PM
All Kenya politicians are thieves. No saint. Kenyatta family criminal enterprise has stolen more than you can imagine. Moist family comes in distant second.

The hustler movement is real, Ruto is the wrong guy to be its face. It should be a person outside the current political majambazis who should be leading it. I think in the next year we will see an alternative to Ruto to take the hustler movement forward. The current mood is akin to that in Mali before the soldiers took over, deep disaffection and hopelessness. In Kenya's case its the hoi polloi who will smash the current order. Something similar is unfolding in Kyrgyzstan.
Title: Re: The Elite worst fear is The Poor Uniting..
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on October 10, 2020, 02:17:35 AM
All Kenya politicians are thieves. No saint. Kenyatta family criminal enterprise has stolen more than you can imagine. Moist family comes in distant second.

The hustler movement is real, Ruto is the wrong guy to be its face. It should be a person outside the current political majambazis who should be leading it. I think in the next year we will see an alternative to Ruto to take the hustler movement forward. The current mood is akin to that in Mali before the soldiers took over, deep disaffection and hopelessness. In Kenya's case its the hoi polloi who will smash the current order. Something similar is unfolding in Kyrgyzstan.

Nah.  It's just the latest among fads that have seen wananchi's grievances quickly subsumed by the tribe when the rubber hits the road.  Kenyans have not just recently discovered that some dudes are rich while they wallow in poverty.
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Post by: Arcadian_Dreamer on October 10, 2020, 03:41:32 AM
Nah.  It's just the latest among fads that have seen wananchi's grievances quickly subsumed by the tribe when the rubber hits the road.  Kenyans have not just recently discovered that some dudes are rich while they wallow in poverty.

Well shall see. I have feeling this time, things will be different.
Title: Re: The Elite worst fear is The Poor Uniting..
Post by: Nowayhaha on October 10, 2020, 01:32:05 PM
https://nation.africa/kenya/news/politics/peace-and-unity-my-priority-uhuru-tells-gusii-delegation-2462058


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The Head of State, according to those present in the Thursday meeting, accused politicians of balkanising Kenyan youth using the narrative of haves and have-nots.

“Sasa hizi vitu wanaambia watu wakishindwa kufanya, hii nchi itakuwa vipi? (What will happen if they don’t keep the promises they are giving the youth)?” the President is quoted as saying.
Title: Re: The Elite worst fear is The Poor Uniting..
Post by: gout on October 10, 2020, 05:42:01 PM
To dislodge a system set in 1896 you can only be a rebel from the same system pushed by circumstances and the people issues or the people. What does outside the system mean? a street kid?

Kimathi was a teacher who rebelled against mzungu who taught them and took them to Burma for baptism by guns - without great enthusiasm from collaborators they didn't go far. Jaramogi become a hustler icon up to 1994 despite crying for Kenyatta to be released to lead. Matibas, Rubias were rich thugs who taught Moi how to steal and they turned around to want snatch the meat from the lion they reared.

This is reason why is making the dynasties shake as he is still is deep in the system and he has latched on the hustler narrative. The deep state system has to meet in hiding huko Kajiado or La Manda as he is there in the cabinet meeting.
All Kenya politicians are thieves. No saint. Kenyatta family criminal enterprise has stolen more than you can imagine. Moist family comes in distant second.

The hustler movement is real, Ruto is the wrong guy to be its face. It should be a person outside the current political majambazis who should be leading it. I think in the next year we will see an alternative to Ruto to take the hustler movement forward. The current mood is akin to that in Mali before the soldiers took over, deep disaffection and hopelessness. In Kenya's case its the hoi polloi who will smash the current order. Something similar is unfolding in Kyrgyzstan.