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https://nation.africa/kenya/news/politics/ndii-i-don-t-mind-working-with-ruto-to-defeat-dynasties--2455604
Economist and maverick political activist David Ndii believes that President Uhuru Kenyatta is responsible for what his deputy William Ruto has become. He says the President’s “exclusionist economic policies” have pushed citizens to embrace Dr Ruto’s “hustler” philosophy.
Dr Ndii, a key strategist of the Opposition coalition Nasa in the last election, has since fallen out with its leader Raila Odinga and considers the Handshake a mistake that will cost Mr Odinga votes because he will be blamed – with President Kenyatta – for the country’s current economic woes.
The economist, who says he doesn’t mind working with Dr Ruto if that will help stop the “dynasties’ plot to change the constitution to benefit a few people,” spoke with the Saturday Nation on the state of the national economy and politics. Excerpts:
What is the state of the economy?
Not good at all. The economy was already doing badly even before Covid-19, whose long-term consequences are still unfolding. We have failed to structurally transform our economy. Even the celebrated (Mwai) Kibaki administration really only benefitted from the unwinding of the Moi recession. It was a bounce-back helped by decent public financial management. Now, the economy is weighed down by huge debt. We are looking at stagnation of up to a decade. And, given our demographics – many young people are graduating into the job market. I doubt we will survive it.
How does the country wiggle out of the crisis?
I think only a financial implosion can save us: a default as has happened in Zambia and Lebanon. Remember the case of Greece (which had to be bailed out). The break will give us a window to do structural reforms. We are on a slow puncture which, if it goes on for four, five years, the end will be very nasty. Uhuru has entrenched a crony capitalist economy in which a small corporate elite, helped by government policies, enjoy huge profit margins.
A blowback of that exclusionary system is what has given life to the so-called wheelbarrownomics. Ruto did not create it; he is only a consequence of it. There has been an attempt to dismiss Ruto’s donation of wheelbarrows as having nothing to do with the economy. It has everything to do with the economy.
Do you work for William Ruto?
I have said repeatedly that I do not think the hustler movement is a Ruto thing. It is an organic, populist insurgency, a blowback of Jubilee’s economic failure. I saw even before Covid-19 what the standard gauge railway did to Mombasa. We have had a situation where Uhuru has been protecting the big businesses at the expense of the “small” people. A class war has been predicted in Kenya for a very long time.
Remember lawyer PLO Lumumba in a 2014 lecture at St Paul’s University talking about the ‘Sonkonisation’ of our politics? It came to pass, with the rise of Ferdinand Waititu (as governor) in Kiambu and Mike Sonko in Nairobi. I don’t care if Ruto gives wheelbarrows or not. What I am against, and I try to get the elite to understand, is belittling “small” people, which does not augur well for our nation.
Those saying that I support Ruto are trying to divert attention. They are trying to make me embarrassed and kill the conversation. Ruto’s move is only resonating with the masses. His phraseology or timing is only a happy coincidence. Uhuru Kenyatta has actually contributed a lot to the return of the “dynasty talk”.
I was young, but I saw even in (founding President) Jomo’s time this kind of arrogance: What they used to call the arrogance of Kikuyus but is actually a condescending, paternalistic attitude of the Kikuyu political class. This is something that Moi had killed. One of his redeeming features was the common touch. What Uhuru is doing, and his demeanour, betray what they call the blue blood. He can’t hide it.
So we (a coalition of the civil society members) are engaging other people to build a national solidarity movement.
Is Ruto one of the people you are talking to?
When facing an existential threat, you don’t have the luxury to choose who to fight alongside. You hold your nose and talk to whomever you have to. If we are to dismantle the dynasty ticket, which really is a dictatorship of the big five tribes, you need everyone.
The pro-Building Bridges Initiative group is working on bringing together the big five tribes which are 75 per cent of the country and dominate the other 37 or so communities. They want to change the constitution to make this possible.
We want to stop this and commit them to a free election with the constitution intact. I am very pragmatic about who to engage. If you look at the numbers, Ruto is a frontrunner, with 40 per cent of the people; 25 per cent are undecided while 35 per cent are for the dynasty candidate. If we can get 65 per cent of the people, that will be good enough.
Some of our friends in the civil society have raised an issue with (working with) Ruto but I remind them that even Narc and Nasa had crooked politicians. If we are going to take the moral high ground, are we saying we are better than those who worked together after apartheid in South Africa or the genocide in Rwanda?
Your critics have called you the patron saint of ‘wheelbarrownomics,’ referring to your public support of the DP’s donations of jua kali tools. Would you say that this is different from the culture of handouts?
Those are Ruto’s handouts, and that is his style. But I also see people all the time leaving Capital Hill (Mr Odinga’s office) and State House with bulging pockets. Is it right when only the elite get handouts and wrong if the small people get them? This is the kind of hypocrisy I am calling out. I can name people I know who have received handouts. And if this money is the Covid-19 billions, then they have blood on their hands.
On Christmas Day, these same elites look for the poor to give handouts to. This is hypocrisy. The difference is that Ruto does these things in an in-your-face style.
He says: “If I am going to bribe churches, then I will do it on Sunday as you watch, and you will bear witness that I am corrupt.” But what I try to do in my tweets is to say: Stop offending the dignity of these people by belittling them.
People can live with hunger but when you strip them of their dignity, it is a different thing altogether. So this thing is shaping up as a class war.
Isn’t this a dangerous trend?
Yes, popular blowbacks are dangerous. That is why this rage needs to be brought to the mainstream democratic engagement. We are lucky that Ruto is a mainstream politician. It is the price for our sins as a country, chief of which is extreme inequality. If a demagogue, someone more radical than Ruto, ran away with it would be dangerous indeed.
In the last election you campaigned for ODM leader Raila Odinga, arguing he was the one to take Kenyans to “Canaan”. Today you have no kind words for him. What went wrong?
We supported Raila, not as a person, but as the only one with a pool to create a Narc-like movement against the blowback on the constitution. And we succeeded in a sense. If we didn’t have such a formidable force, Jubilee would have ridden roughshod on the country.
But, after the election, Raila personalised the cause by cutting a private deal with Uhuru. We even tried to structure the handshake, even though we weren’t for it, but he pegged it on a personal relationship. Whenever we suggested something he would say: “Let me ask Uhuru.” So he veered off course.
But he is a man of a seemingly endless bag of tricks. Do you see him pulling a fast one in the 2022 elections?
My political punditry is not good at all, but I am a numbers person and his numbers don’t look good. Raila’s dalliance with Uhuru is a poisoned chalice. I knew that by the time Uhuru would be leaving State House, he would be more unpopular than Moi and I tried to dissuade Raila from working with him. But he didn’t think the economic performance would affect Uhuru.
He even gave me the example of Zimbabwe, saying the economic ruin there didn’t affect Robert Mugabe’s ratings. He is now in an abyss out of which I don’t think he will come.
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RV Pundit , seems you and Ndii share the same inference . I dont know why you despise him
Not good at all. The economy was already doing badly even before Covid-19, whose long-term consequences are still unfolding. We have failed to structurally transform our economy. Even the celebrated (Mwai) Kibaki administration really only benefitted from the unwinding of the Moi recession. It was a bounce-back helped by decent public financial management. Now, the economy is weighed down by huge debt. We are looking at stagnation of up to a decade. And, given our demographics – many young people are graduating into the job market. I doubt we will survive it.
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Kibaki was maggot. We just voted for him because kikuyus won't vote for qny other candidate and moi was threatening us with crackhead uhuru. It was to take the maggot to avoid a crackhead not a lot of choice
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Kenya really needs a break from the kikuyu-kalenjin yoke.
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How can Ndii write off Kibaki - advising the NARC economics is his only noteworthy achievement. Besides his consulting boutique - Panafrican Economics or something.
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Kibaki of 70s and 80s and 90s died - the one who turned up in statehouse - is poor copy of the original. The kibaki of 80s was the best parliament debater, he was intelligent, eloquent and serious. My father was Kibaki man - and I grew up a kibaki. It didn't matter if he was a kikuyu or not as popular as Matiba or Jaramogi - but those who know Kibaki knew he was the best leader bar maybe the late Tom Mboya.
What we saw was in power was half dead - half drunk. Uhuru is well a drunkard but he trusted Ruto to run the show. When he decided to take the steering wheel in the 2nd term - we are seeing disaster unfolding.
I mean Kibaki spend 10yrs in power and never made one coherent unwritten speech. Just hivyo hivyo hivi hivi pale pale while chewing his lips.
I immediately disembarked from him when he made it clear that he was not interested in reforms but the return of the kikuyu regime in power.
Constitution he had promised in 100 days! Yash Pal Gai was pretty much ready - but he had other plans. He blocked Raila from statehouse almost immediately.At least Uhuru detoriation has take many years. Kibaki basically gave everyone who supported him a big finger on the 2nd day of being sworn.
And economy really had no way to go except up.
Kenya had very very high hopes of Kibaki. He betrayed the nation. We were the most optimistic nation on earth in 2003 and 4yrs later we were Rwanda - with Kikuyus being literally hunted like wild dogs everywhere - to pay for the mistake of Kibaki. He totally failed and crushed hopes of issue based politics - and people became VERY VERY TRIBAL. Personally I became tribal and started supporting only Kalenjin politicians - something I hadn't done for all that period. All those 90s reforms and progressive politics it turned out was nothing but tribal politics. Civil society who had been co-opted also collapsed. The media followed suit. It was over for kenya.
RV Pundit , seems you and Ndii share the same inference . I dont know why you despise him
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Spin spin spin. Kibaki was badly knocked up by road accident - few weeks to elections - spent rest of the campaign in London hospital. He was on a wheelchair for a year or something- rushing to Nairobi Hospital for chekups. Kenyans knew they were electing a cripple - including Railas Summit - but it was too late in the game to mess with the lineup. Now Uhuru - you were falling over yourself praising the "dynamic duo", "Gentleman Uhuru" and all nonsense - until the fallout came and now the bile is all over like a slug's trail.
Ndii may be sour and toxic - pessimistic - but is at least objective and principled. You, Mobutu, Jubilee anointed Uhuru. Nothing has changed - greed, looting, entitlement, power abuse - not even the treachery is new. Most ODM wondered why the deal was not 5-10-5 or 5-5-5-5 - wakatemewa mate!
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How does an on the knee accident affect the brain? Kibaki became senile and old. That is only conclusion I can draw. Maybe he had a stroke but definitely he was no longer the Kibaki we knew.
We really had high hopes of Kibaki. I remember celebrating NARC win for days.
Spin spin spin. Kibaki was badly knocked up by road accident - few weeks to elections - spent rest of the campaign in London hospital. He was on a wheelchair for a year or something- rushing to Nairobi Hospital for chekups. Kenyans knew they were electing a cripple - including Railas Summit - but it was too late in the game to mess with the lineup. Now Uhuru - you were falling over yourself praising the "dynamic duo", "Gentleman Uhuru" and all nonsense - until the fallout came and now the bile is all over like a slug's trail.
Ndii may be sour and toxic - pessimistic - but is at least objective and principled. You, Mobutu, Jubilee anointed Uhuru. Nothing has changed - greed, looting, entitlement, power abuse - not even the treachery is new. Most ODM wonderef why the deal was not 5-10-5 or 5-5-5-5 - wakatemewa mate!
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He was agile and as sharp in DP days - running proper debate in parliament. He held NAK together and shortchanged LDP in the power-sharing in NARC summit - NAK had both PORK and VP 8) It was the accident that messed him - that was so obvious. He was only 72 at the elections. Of course only you can claim a car rolling into a ditch 30 metres from the road only affects a knee - his neck needed support too. He was badly knocked up - Raila and Saitotis hid him from the media even in London - "the captain is away" spin - till after the return few days to ballot.
How does an on the knee accident affect the brain? Kibaki became senile and old. That is only conclusion I can draw. Maybe he had a stroke but definitely he was no longer the Kibaki we knew.
We really had high hopes of Kibaki. I remember celebrating NARC win for days.
Spin spin spin. Kibaki was badly knocked up by road accident - few weeks to elections - spent rest of the campaign in London hospital. He was on a wheelchair for a year or something- rushing to Nairobi Hospital for chekups. Kenyans knew they were electing a cripple - including Railas Summit - but it was too late in the game to mess with the lineup. Now Uhuru - you were falling over yourself praising the "dynamic duo", "Gentleman Uhuru" and all nonsense - until the fallout came and now the bile is all over like a slug's trail.
Ndii may be sour and toxic - pessimistic - but is at least objective and principled. You, Mobutu, Jubilee anointed Uhuru. Nothing has changed - greed, looting, entitlement, power abuse - not even the treachery is new. Most ODM wonderef why the deal was not 5-10-5 or 5-5-5-5 - wakatemewa mate!
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Anyway the other truth about NARC is Moi Guinness level incompetence was easy to beat. Naturally Kibaki was a breath of fresh air. There were endless hanging fruits for rockstar economist of his calibre. In 70s Kenya was in Asian Tiger league and shape - before Moi killed Gema economy to contain rebellion. Moi with his massive powers really squandered Kenya's chances at progress - that the problem with handing village fool power. Deng Xiaoping rebooted China @ 1978 - Moi kneecapped Kenya in the same period. Now your fake genius who look, walk, speak, think like Moi - is going to leapfrog Kenya. How now?
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China leapfrog - 1978-2000
Kenya nosedive - 1979-2002
This little- reported truth... now Moi 1st class student is going to transform Kenya with China Model - if his political father did the opposite it kinda hard to convince us. Sorry no takers.
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None of that true. You can only judge Moi with African standards. Otherwise we can judge Kibaki with South Asian standards and he fails.
Moi did an okay job - and when all parameters are considered - he beats Kibaki 10- 1.
Gov job is not to grow the economy. Look for gov services.Moi did a good job.
Why did kenya economy collapse - PLAIN SIMPLE - opposition engineered aid and debt withdrawal in 90s - in an economy that relied on AID - and it crashed.
But unlike many African countries - Moi managed to still steer it - and hand it over to Kibaki.
The Mzungu was suprised by Kenya resilience and Moi ingenuity. Elsewhere in such situation, Moi would not have survived, and gov would have collapsed.
But Moi was a sly cat - and lied to IMF/WB/donors record 5 times - they release the money - with conditions - and he ignores them - they block the money - he goes back to lie to them. That was the story of 90s.
And Kenya remained an oasis of peace and tranquility in the region govs were collapsing - at slight push by US and EU powers.
There are things Moi nailed - one of it was education and 8-4-4 - and many many things - that he got right.
He did very well in economy - and kibaki only came to reap his fruits - and claimed to be his OWN. There is nothing Kibaki really did to structure the economy. NOTHING much. Maybe electricity sector.
Banking reforms - Moi
Central Bank reforms - Moi
Building domestic debt market - TBills/Tbond - Moi
KRA reforms - Moi
Liberalization of the economy - Moi.
Reducing AId dependency from 50% to to 10-5% MOi. Kibaki took it from 5% to 2%.
Anyway the other truth about NARC is Moi Guinness level incompetence was easy to beat. Naturally Kibaki was a breath of fresh air. There were endless hanging fruits for rockstar economist of his calibre. In 70s Kenya was in Asian Tiger league and shape - before Moi killed Gema economy to contain rebellion. Moi with his massive powers really squandered Kenya's chances at progress - that the problem with handing village fool power. Deng Xiaoping rebooted China @ 1978 - Moi kneecapped Kenya in the same period. Now your fake genius who look, walk, speak, think like Moi - is going to leapfrog Kenya. How now?
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Polemics. Moi did very very well. Kenya economy suffered in 80s due to global oil crisis. And 2nd the population explosion made nonsense of all the growth - we had 4% population growth (highest in the world) meaning even if the economy grew - per capita was nonsense- you cannot blame Moi for that. And you cannot blame Moi for 90s - because opposition engineered the shutdown of the economy to take away Moi insane popularity. Donors use to fund 60% of the the budget - they took it away - and the creditors refused to lend - for political reason - crushing the economy. The idea was Kenya to pay the prize- and kick Moi out. It didn't happen. Moi was popular until he left. Moi reformed education sector. Moi held the country together for 24yrs - no president will ever do that.
China leapfrog - 1978-2000
Kenya nosedive - 1979-2002
This little- reported truth... now Moi 1st class student is going to transform Kenya with China Model - if his political father did the opposite it kinda hard to convince us. Sorry no takers.
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Robina - be grateful for term limits - otherwise Moi would not have been beaten until he died. He took his job very seriously and Kenyans could sleep knowing they had someone who was busy at work. Museveni is clocking 35 yrs and will do another 10 in my estimation because he takes his job very very seriously.
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Donors froze aid for runaway sleaze and wanton oppression. The horror stories of folks at Kanyotu mercy are still online. Donors are not insane - Kenya is not North Korea or Iran to be victimized- there is rationale. In Kenya, Zim, Sudan, name it. What stop them from crippling Kibaki or Uhuru? - still same Kenya.
Kagame and M7 you keep drawing false parallels - inherited graveyards but performed wonders. Moi cabal of illiterate Tugen siphoned capital out of parastatals - Moi would call special red phone and ask millions to be delivered by his driver. He would cart it in the boot and dish to kids by the roadside as they sang for him. If you check Ndung'u report - you will see the power Kanu officials wielded at land ministry. National Bank had a mountain of bad debt Kalenjin took without collateral.
By 90s inflation was through the roof - in peacetime. But worst sin was stifling cash crops to impoverish Gema - they were the backbone in 70s.
Polemics. Moi did very very well. Kenya economy suffered in 80s due to global oil crisis. And 2nd the population explosion made nonsense of all the growth - we had 4% population growth (highest in the world) meaning even if the economy grew - per capita was nonsense- you cannot blame Moi for that. And you cannot blame Moi for 90s - because opposition engineered the shutdown of the economy to take away Moi insane popularity. Donors use to fund 60% of the the budget - they took it away - and the creditors refused to lend - for political reason - crushing the economy. The idea was Kenya to pay the prize- and kick Moi out. It didn't happen. Moi was popular until he left. Moi reformed education sector. Moi held the country together for 24yrs - no president will ever do that.
China leapfrog - 1978-2000
Kenya nosedive - 1979-2002
This little- reported truth... now Moi 1st class student is going to transform Kenya with China Model - if his political father did the opposite it kinda hard to convince us. Sorry no takers.
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I stopped here. You're an idiot. After crashing kenya economy - kenya began to worked toward making that impossible again. Now it's pretty impossible to crash kenya economy by witholding donor funding or IMf loan. That Moi did from 1993. By time Moi was handing over - Kenya gov was no longer budgetting donor funding. It was also borrowing a lot more internally - having built a domestic debt market. Kenya was now economically independent. Financing it's own budget and can exclusively borrow domestically if it wanted.
Kenya economy was crashed in 93 - when donors and creditors suddenly withdraw funding citing human rights violations by Moi administration. Immediately Kshs went haywire from 20 to a dollar to 60. Inflation became so bad. Forex evaporated.
Moi was really desperate - and Kanyotu came up with what seem like a brilliant but really bone-headed idea to steal Congo gold and sell it for forex - re-export of gold - and it became a big scandal - goldenburg - they made situation worse - never brought any much gold but still got paid.
But economy had long been crashed...in 1993 by western powers - in attempt to crash moi gov and make him lose power.
They failed for Moi popularity never reduced, moi worked his butt to finance the gov by agreeing to reforms, a generation was lost including embittered Kenya Platos and 90s generations who began kenya mass exodus abroad.
You're really thick headed.
Donors froze aid for runaway sleaze and wanton oppression. The horror stories of folks at Kanyotu mercy are still online. Donors are not insane - Kenya is not North Korea or Iran to be victimized- there is rationale. In Kenya, Zim, Sudan, name it. What stop them from crippling Kibaki or Uhuru? - still same Kenya.
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This dynasty Hassler thing is really nonsense. Kenyatta began as a hassler meter reader which is worse than self-employed chicken seller with State House Moi links. Real hassler is Raila if there's such a thing. Kenyans are shooting themselves in the foot replacing one hassler with another of a worse kind.
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Raila was brought up by a rich Jaramogi - member of Legco and chair of Luo Thirfy Enterprises owning buses in colonial Kenya - member of colonial parliament(LEGCO) - and by 1960s was taken to complete primary edcuation in germany. He came back in 197os to find a job waiting for him at UON and later made KNBS deputy director - where he went on to finance a coup.The only hassle he is done - was in Kamiti - where he spend most of late 80s in - and still thanks to his father connection - he was not executed like Ochuka. He came back and become MP of Kibera.
Never has raila had to hassle - economically - because Jaramogi despite falling out with Kenyatta was still a rich man - owning 1,000 acres of land in Kisumu - and maybe another 1,000 in Siaya.
He only had to "hussle" in Kamiti, Naivasha, Manyani and Shimo la Tewa prisons
This dynasty Hassler thing is really nonsense. Kenyatta began as a hassler meter reader which is worse than self-employed chicken seller with State House Moi links. Real hassler is Raila if there's such a thing. Kenyans are shooting themselves in the foot replacing one hassler with another of a worse kind.
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Raila was brought up by a rich Jaramogi - member of Legco and chair of Luo Thirfy Enterprises owning buses in colonial Kenya - member of colonial parliament(LEGCO) - and by 1960s was taken to complete primary edcuation in germany. He came back in 197os to find a job waiting for him at UON and later made KNBS deputy director - where he went on to finance a coup.The only hassle he is done - was in Kamiti - where he spend most of late 80s in - and still thanks to his father connection - he was not executed like Ochuka. He came back and become MP of Kibera.
Never has raila had to hassle - economically - because Jaramogi despite falling out with Kenyatta was still a rich man - owning 1,000 acres of land in Kisumu - and maybe another 1,000 in Siaya.
He only had to "hussle" in Kamiti, Naivasha, Manyani and Shimo la Tewa prisons
This dynasty Hassler thing is really nonsense. Kenyatta began as a hassler meter reader which is worse than self-employed chicken seller with State House Moi links. Real hassler is Raila if there's such a thing. Kenyans are shooting themselves in the foot replacing one hassler with another of a worse kind.
Have you read the story of Ida and her children? Or Raila escaping from Moi goons at a time your fren was slapping Chesire in State House? You can't even believe yourself.
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Political perscution is not hussling. Hussling is economic. There many types of sufferings. Raila obviously faced it rough with KANU - and Moi - after engineering a coup - but he was never poor. Jaramogi was never a pauper.
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How long has your fren been hustling?
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Ruto is hustling till now. Everything he has - he earned it. He inherited zero from his father. Raila inherited his father wealth and political support. Uhuru would be nothing without Kenyatta surname and money. Gideon moi the same. MaDVD in the same box. The rest can qualify to call themselves hustlers.
As long as 4 amigos (Uhuru, Raila, Gideon, maDVD) are united against Ruto - the Hustler Nation will resonate.
How long has your fren been hustling?
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Hustler Nation is really class warfare - it good strategy for cornered fellow. I see nothing wrong with that once Uhuru flushed MOU down the sewer. Raila BBI is tribal strategy - he is not really interested in powersharing. Neither of them is genuine it pure politics. Even the wheelbarrows or mchangos they use to label Mobutu a thief - Raila and Uhuru can equally dish money if they are desperate - I expect Raila to attempt to endear himself with covid recovery. Both are GoK budget one looted the other official channel.
Uhuru job is to lend Raila machinery - and place hurdles for Mobutu especially in Gema. BBI is probably biggest Handshake payoff - to lineup all Mdvds under Raila. The dishing out money to voters is dicey strategy. In Kibra after the dog beating - Mariga could not run to court despite clear evidence of violence - because videos of thousands of slumdwellers feasting at Karen were all over youtube. The handouts narrative denied Mobutu public sympathy and legal recourse. Same as Huduma Namba where Mobutu was on TV launching it in Eldoret as excellent program. I expect this to replay in Msambaweni - fierce battle of rallies, bribes, goons. Propaganda war is very hard to beat hardened Raila.
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Premium tears is coming for anybody who is depending on Uhuru.
You make it sound like it's foregone conclusion that Uhuru supports Raila for 2022.
I wonder where you get all that :)
Uhuru himself has never hinted on that - but somehow you've convinced yourself that Uhuru is pulling all stops for Raila.
For us to have a meaningful (not your usual idiotic analysis) - try to analyze Raila move without Uhuru and without constitution being changed.
Otherwise you're engaged in wishful thinking. Not analysis. Not punditry.
It akin to BBI BBI will give us parliamentary - and I don't know what kind of idioitic hallucination your fancy - that you make it sound like post-facto :) Uhuru is going for Prime Minister and won't retire :) :) - crazy irrational thoughts.
That is very crazy.
Going forward, let me help you. When you are analyzing Raila-Ruto - use a BIG IF - when it come to Uhuru backing Raila - and then give us a scenario where UHURU DOESNT BACK HIM...where he back someone else or even make up with RUTO. Also use BIG IF - if any Uhuru support will matter - as retiring president.
Otherwise reading the same nonsense everyday where Raila is getting backed by Uhuru without any evidence is BS.
Hustler Nation is really class warfare - it good strategy for cornered fellow. I see nothing wrong with that once Uhuru flushed MOU down the sewer. Raila BBI is tribal strategy - he is not really interested in powersharing. Neither of them is genuine it pure politics. Even the wheelbarrows or mchangos they use to label Mobutu a thief - Raila and Uhuru can equally dish money if they are desperate - I expect Raila to attempt to endear himself with covid recovery. Both are GoK budget one looted the other official channel.
Uhuru job is to lend Raila machinery - and place hurdles for Mobutu especially in Gema. BBI is probably biggest Handshake payoff - to lineup all Mdvds under Raila. The dishing out money to voters is dicey strategy. In Kibra after the dog beating - Mariga could not run to court despite clear evidence of violence - because videos of thousands of slumdwellers feasting at Karen were all over youtube. The handouts narrative denied Mobutu public sympathy and legal recourse. Same as Huduma Namba where Mobutu was on TV launching it in Eldoret as excellent program. I expect this to replay in Msambaweni - fierce battle of rallies, bribes, goons. Propaganda war is very hard to beat hardened Raila.
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You can say that again. Uhurutopia, Jezebel and they are playing Raila for 2 years. It took Jubilee purge and parliamentary rout to accept historic mean machine was long gone. Kibra was the most comical - where you posted Mariga photos with Uhuru here - right before cops literally were taking orders from Junet - as Barasas got manhandled.
Now you been telling us how Mobutu has taken Mijikenda. As reality check nears in Msambaweni - you are swiftly backtracking and telling us hustler nation only extend to Tana River pastoralists. Are the Kwale beach boys not poor hustlers? If there was a by-election in GEMA - you and Mobutu would change stripes like chameleon - to avoid busting the "ground" facade.
Short of a by-election only credible opinion polls can tell us the direction. Not twitter bots, rallies & slogans, London boutique polls, and definitely not your 65% nonsense here. Njamba warns me against arguing with baptized moron like you - atheist that worship Mobutu - facts or precedents don't matter if they don't back your faith.
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All I see is Kibera and Msawbeni :) Relax we will get to Msawebweni soon. Others Raila has not been endorsed by Uhuru. Wait until it happens.
You can say that again. Uhurutopia, Jezebel and they are playing Raila for 2 years. It took Jubilee purge and parliamentary rout to accept historic mean machine was long gone. Kibra was the most comical where you posted Mariga photos with Uhuru here - right before cops literally were taking orders from Junet as Barasas got manhandled.
Now you been telling us how Mobutu has taken Mijikenda. As reality check nears in Msambaweni - you are swiftly backtracking and telling us hustler nation extend to Tana River pastoralists. Are the Kwale beach boys not poor hustlers? If there was a by-election in GEMA - you and Mobutu would change stripes like chameleon - to avoid busting the "ground" facade.
Short of a by-election only credible opinion polls can tell us the direction. Not twitter bots, rallies & slogans, London boutique polls, and definitely not your 65% nonsense here. Njamba warns me against arguing with baptized moron like you - atheist that worship Mobutu - facts or precedents don't matter if they don't back your faith.
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Uhuru actions speak louder than his words. At least that better than your phantom numbers sijui ground. 65% only your other hero Kagame has pulled that by locking up his opponents :) I hear Uhuru is livid about the "coup" - according to Njamba. Now you have even gone rogue on senile Kibaki.
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Uhuru is going to become Executive PM; what else is new. Uhuru is lameduck. We are in 2021. Nobody cares about him. Not Ruto. If Moi went home - Uhuru ni nini - mlevi tu.
Uhuru should concentrate on his legacy alone. Otherwise people are in campaign mode. He was in campaign mode with Ruto from 2018 - kibaki didn't tell anybody to stop.
Uhuru is just wasting police time - because kenya is not going to be intimidated - court bail - and you're back like nothing happen - but even more popular.
Now imagine Raila is betting on a retiring Uhuru to nail PORK :)
As for figures - I don't throw them carelessly.
Uhuru actions speak louder than his words. At least that better than your phantom numbers sijui ground. 65% only your other hero Kagame has pulled that by locking up his opponents :) I hear Uhuru is livid about the "coup" - according to Njamba. Now you have even gone rogue on senile Kibaki.
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At some point Luhya were 40% in Kibra - Luo had migrated to Mathare and Kayole :) Even all MCA were supposed to be Luhya. Now this 65% hustler MOAS - is a magic number - old Omollo would call it witchcraft. Maybe stick to Mobutu has ground it at least vague and almost palatable.
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Kibra kibra. Woman. That was not an election. Violence on the election date made nonsense of it. Move on. I have been doing MOASS when you were in diapers. If election are held today - Ruto wins by huge margin - with Raila distant 2nd. Even Patel knows that. Who else - Matiangi is DOA - Kalonzo is forgotten - and maDVD I heard was shouted down in Vihiga and told Ruto is the man.
Ruto is marrying GEMA and NOn-GEMA - unprecedented stuff. 2002 - kenyans were forced to pick btw two Kikuyus.
Now kenyans are united - both gema and non-gema - in hustler nation thing - and Ruto baring assassination is sleep walking to PORK.
At some point Luhya were 40% in Kibra - Luo had migrated to Mathare and Kayole :) Even all MCA were supposed to be Luhya. Now this 65% hustler MOAS - is a magic number - old Omollo would call it witchcraft. Maybe stick to Mobutu has ground it at least vague and almost palatable.
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Mobutu has been sleepwalking to PORK for a while now. patel and Ndii analyses are more evidence of that. By-elections matter because politics is perception - by-election performance is way better than spin and opinion polls. But I can understand why Kibra is sore subject - it run contra to ground and other genius moves.
Now of course dude in early 30s with 30year experience - that like Njamba doing politics at 5 - while the truth is he is about 60 with Omollo. Age mean nothing in digital era.