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Title: Nowayaha - You cannot bottle it anymore
Post by: RV Pundit on September 07, 2020, 02:50:37 PM
Next two years Uhuru will watch the country flame up if he doesn't wise up.
Title: Re: Nowayaha - You cannot bottle it anymore
Post by: Njuri Ncheke on September 07, 2020, 03:18:37 PM
Next two years Uhuru will watch the country flame up if he doesn't wise up.
To be honest this is the only talk Gatheca Uhuru will understand, the gloves are off, its good they are telling him that. Should continue this way till the addict gets it. But no there will be No flame pundit.
Title: Re: Nowayaha - You cannot bottle it anymore
Post by: Fairandbalanced on September 07, 2020, 03:22:36 PM
This guy payukaring  framed by a hut in the background is not doing Ruto any favors, people like this idiot remind Kenyans the dark days of Kanu. Keep talking and Raila will sleep walk to the state house.
Title: Re: Nowayaha - You cannot bottle it anymore
Post by: RV Pundit on September 07, 2020, 03:23:01 PM
It upto Uhuru. It always start this way. By next year - it will chaos - by 2022 - we will be calling for United Nations and International Community to intervene to save us.

All upto Uhuru - he should wisen up.

To be honest this is the only talk Gatheca Uhuru will understand, the gloves are off, its good they are telling him that. Should continue this way till the addict gets it. But no there will be No flame pundit.
Title: Re: Nowayaha - You cannot bottle it anymore
Post by: RV Pundit on September 07, 2020, 03:24:26 PM
If Raila wins - I think many will be happy - for many it's either Ruto or Raila.
This guy payukaring  framed by a hut in the background is not doing Ruto any favors, people like this idiot remind Kenyans the dark days of Kanu. Keep talking and Raila will sleep walk to the state house.
Title: Re: Nowayaha - You cannot bottle it anymore
Post by: Njuri Ncheke on September 07, 2020, 03:25:44 PM
This guy payukaring  framed by a hut in the background is not doing Ruto any favors, people like this idiot remind Kenyans the dark days of Kanu. Keep talking and Raila will sleep walk to the state house.
Wrong its obviously you biased, they are insulting Ruto day and night under blessings from Uhuru, Uhuru needs to know there is a tipping point otherwise he will ransack the country. the fools are akina murathe atwoli etc. Uhuru needs to Know Ruto has also fanatical base.
Title: Re: Nowayaha - You cannot bottle it anymore
Post by: RV Pundit on September 07, 2020, 03:29:26 PM
It too complicated for him to understand. He will next be shouting ICC come save us  - and arrest Ruto. He cannot see the nexus.
Wrong its obviously you biased, they are insulting Ruto day and night under blessings from Uhuru, Uhuru needs to know there is a tipping point otherwise he will ransack the country. the fools are akina murathe atwoli etc. Uhuru needs to Know Ruto has also fanatical base.
Title: Re: Nowayaha - You cannot bottle it anymore
Post by: Njuri Ncheke on September 07, 2020, 03:35:15 PM
As much as am against violence, Uhuru is the kind of big head that only understands force, Uhuru needs to know he is not the only man, he needs constant reminder that his family, their wealth is also at stake, He needs to go peacefuly home There is no other minimum he can't be in government again. And if threats of violence are the way, twende kazi
Title: Re: Nowayaha - You cannot bottle it anymore
Post by: Kadudu on September 07, 2020, 03:52:47 PM
I keep on asking you guys, who will fight for Ruto in Kenya and against whom?
Ruto fanatics are only in RV. Now their hostages there are mainly Kikuyus and do not mention Gema. So if the Kikuyus are in Ruto's corner, whom will Kalejins fight? The number of Kisiis, Luhyas and Luos is neglible as they are mainly workers and not settlers in RV. So where will there be violence?
Title: Re: Nowayaha - You cannot bottle it anymore
Post by: RV Pundit on September 07, 2020, 03:55:48 PM
Make believe. Number of Luhyas in Nandi County are probably 0.5M. Let not talk about Uasin Gishu and Tranzoia. You're just forgetful because 2007 you were in one team with Kalenjin. In my local place - it's Luos who were identifying Gusii houses in those row of tea estates houses. That is how life in kenya really is. In fact in case of violence in RV - biggest causlities will no longer be Kikuyus - but Luhyas. Kikuyus know the drill - and they will not be found nabbing. It's Luhyas who have forgotten all about 92 - and have intermingled with Nandis - it's impossible to tell a difference in some places.
I keep on asking you guys, who will fight for Ruto in Kenya and against whom?
Ruto fanatics are only in RV. Now their hostages there are mainly Kikuyus and do not mention Gema. So if the Kikuyus are in Ruto's corner, whom will Kalejins fight? The number of Kisiis, Luhyas and Luos is neglible as they are mainly workers and not settlers in RV. So where will there be violence?
Title: Re: Nowayaha - You cannot bottle it anymore
Post by: Njuri Ncheke on September 07, 2020, 04:26:32 PM
I keep on asking you guys, who will fight for Ruto in Kenya and against whom?
Ruto fanatics are only in RV. Now their hostages there are mainly Kikuyus and do not mention Gema. So if the Kikuyus are in Ruto's corner, whom will Kalejins fight? The number of Kisiis, Luhyas and Luos is neglible as they are mainly workers and not settlers in RV. So where will there be violence?
Any violence should be concentrated on the Elites, hii ingine ya kupiga maskini kalenjins will be on their own.
Title: Re: Nowayaha - You cannot bottle it anymore
Post by: Fairandbalanced on September 07, 2020, 04:29:22 PM
The fact is, Ruto without Kikuyus will lose to Raila, Mudavadi or whoever he is running against. Threatening Kikuyus and all the other tribes is shooting an arrow in your own ass, I just cannot see this as a winning formula. Kenyans also get rubbed the wrong way when you are so entitled to think only your candidate can save the country from war. It’s either our candidate(Githinji) or bloodshed, this is not going to work. The genius of Raila is he is now boxing the Kalenjins into 41 vs 1 status, soon Kales will take over as the most hated tribe in Kenya, this is a title kiuks have been looking to lose for a long time.
Title: Re: Nowayaha - You cannot bottle it anymore
Post by: RV Pundit on September 07, 2020, 04:39:37 PM
Again - where is the threat coming from. We are analyzing politics and scenarios. Let me help you - with clear example. We are in 2022 - "Deep State"
 aka "Uhuru" have made their intention known that they will rig election or heck - Ruto knows he will lose. Ruto has a choice to make. He can lose and wait to fight again like Raila until he is 80yrs - or he can decide to go rogue - boycott election - we saw with NASA didn't work. So what will most likely happen is RV will made a war zone - many tribes will be kicked out - I think Luhyas will the biggest causalities. That is pre-election. Post-election is the same. That why no election happens or another handshake is done.

So the more you see - the more you see Kenya in two years hurtling towards worst violence than 2007. Kalenjin will be insitigator. They have primed themselves for Ruto president. If they don't get it - they will re-open land issues from Tranzoia to Nakuru -

Now these are scenarios I am helping some of you understand - so you can protect yourselves early - if you have relatives in RV - the next two years - they better stay safe.

I know Kalenjin mindset inside out. We know Luos mindset. Learn to deal with facts.

Uhuru is to blame..first by rewarding NASA for treason...and for treating Ruto shabbily knowing he adopted a tiger (kalenjin).

Next you know Ruto has declared himself hustler president and we have a civil war. Ruto knows he has national support but nothing beat his violent arrow-happy Kalenjin that can be raise a million army in a second.

Kenya is slowly and surely going south. So this now were we need international community to watch out for next crisis.

Uhuru-Ruto fight will be gigantic.

The fact is, Ruto without Kikuyus will lose to Raila, Mudavadi or whoever he is running against. Threatening Kikuyus and all the other tribes is shooting an arrow in your own ass, I just cannot see this as a winning formula. Kenyans also get rubbed the wrong way when you are so entitled to think only your candidate can save the country from war. It’s either our candidate(Githinji) or bloodshed, this is not going to work. The genius of Raila is he is now boxing the Kalenjins into 41 vs 1 status, soon Kales will take over as the most hated tribe in Kenya, this is a title kiuks have been looking to lose for a long time.
Title: Re: Nowayaha - You cannot bottle it anymore
Post by: RV Pundit on September 07, 2020, 04:54:21 PM
It could happen depending on how the elites behave -  GEMA laity have for example so far refused to bite Uhuru elite bait - and that is what is holding the ceasefire. GEMA folks have more sense than some of their leaders busy inciting war..or encouraging likes of Tobiko to do the same.

Ruto has managed to hold his folks for 3yrs - and now it's seem patience is running thin.

Any violence should be concentrated on the Elites, hii ingine ya kupiga maskini kalenjins will be on their own.
Title: Re: Nowayaha - You cannot bottle it anymore
Post by: RV Pundit on September 07, 2020, 04:56:53 PM
Tragic thing - some of us predicted the unfloding PEV in 2007 - and we heard the same FairAndBalanced - dismiss it before shouting Kabuga - and accuse us of being involved.
Title: Re: Nowayaha - You cannot bottle it anymore
Post by: RV Pundit on September 07, 2020, 05:01:49 PM
Uhuru is looking for Ngeno for mentioning Mama Ngina. OScar Sudi - on it.

Things starting to get south so fast it may not even reach 2022.


https://www.facebook.com/honsudi/videos/311555276615433/
Title: Re: Nowayaha - You cannot bottle it anymore
Post by: RV Pundit on September 07, 2020, 05:41:09 PM
Ngeno arrive in Dikir police station -

Hapa tu next year ni MADVD/OTP/ICC  Uhuru Kenyarratta and William Ruto versus Bensuada Fat Lady.

https://www.facebook.com/NgongDeKapyuk/videos/4641654162526245

https://www.facebook.com/NgongDeKapyuk/videos/4641654162526245
Title: Re: Nowayaha - You cannot bottle it anymore
Post by: Nowayhaha on September 07, 2020, 06:30:23 PM
Ngeno first thing has never been a Jubilee candindate
He actually is not only known Kikuyu hater but also a fierce Ruto hater.
Ruto would never allow him in his corner. Ruto even campaigned against him in 2017




Title: Re: Nowayaha - You cannot bottle it anymore
Post by: RV Pundit on September 07, 2020, 06:33:25 PM
He changed - I think he wanted to be Narok governor or Senator. He is now militantly pro-Ruto. But he is a fireband.
Ngeno first thing has never been a Jubilee candindate
He actually is not only known Kikuyu hater but also a fierce Ruto hater.
Ruto would never allow him in his corner. Ruto even campaigned against him in 2017




Title: Re: Nowayaha - You cannot bottle it anymore
Post by: Nowayhaha on September 07, 2020, 06:41:53 PM
It upto Uhuru. It always start this way. By next year - it will chaos - by 2022 - we will be calling for United Nations and International Community to intervene to save us.

All upto Uhuru - he should wisen up.

To be honest this is the only talk Gatheca Uhuru will understand, the gloves are off, its good they are telling him that. Should continue this way till the addict gets it. But no there will be No flame pundit.

Ngeno has been doing the same thing since time memorial, He is actually Railas point man in Rift Valley.



Title: Re: Nowayaha - You cannot bottle it anymore
Post by: RV Pundit on September 07, 2020, 06:45:32 PM
Dude, you'll soon, face reality and stop blaming murkomen, sudi, ngeno. Things are hotting up. Now it's GEMA to accept Uhuru to be insulted if he allows Ruto to be insulted or disrespected. Hiyo tu.

If GEMA will sulk and love Uhuru - it's upto them. They should Know Uhuru started this.

It upto Uhuru. It always start this way. By next year - it will chaos - by 2022 - we will be calling for United Nations and International Community to intervene to save us.

All upto Uhuru - he should wisen up.

To be honest this is the only talk Gatheca Uhuru will understand, the gloves are off, its good they are telling him that. Should continue this way till the addict gets it. But no there will be No flame pundit.

Ngeno has been doing the same thing since time memorial, He is actually Railas point man in Rift Valley.




Title: Re: Nowayaha - You cannot bottle it anymore
Post by: Nowayhaha on September 07, 2020, 06:45:41 PM
He changed - I think he wanted to be Narok governor or Senator. He is now militantly pro-Ruto. But he is a fireband.
Ngeno first thing has never been a Jubilee candindate
He actually is not only known Kikuyu hater but also a fierce Ruto hater.
Ruto would never allow him in his corner. Ruto even campaigned against him in 2017





Ruto would never allow him to be near him. Take this to the bank.
You seem not to know how Ruto operates, his reason of fallout with Rutto.
Title: Re: Nowayaha - You cannot bottle it anymore
Post by: RV Pundit on September 07, 2020, 06:49:12 PM
Well, Ruto will be doing a lot of restraining, but anger from Jubilee ASILI has boiled over. It bubbling. It cannot be bottled. Wacha kwanza BBI ianze. Hiyo BBI will seperate the Uhuru real supportes and Ruto real supporters.

And really Ruto is hitting Uhuru gov almost directly - it's just that you don't want to believe it.

I was like you for 3yrs - because it also didn't make sense why both would go for MAD - and leave Baba Raila smilling all the way to state house

Ruto would never allow him to be near him. Take this to the bank.
You seem not to know how Ruto operates, his reason of fallout with Rutto.
Title: Re: Nowayaha - You cannot bottle it anymore
Post by: gout on September 07, 2020, 06:56:28 PM
Rabid Uhurus, Murathes are really struggling to get something to make it a Kikuyu-Gema masses-Ruto beef ! Too bad even these family insults are in every broke Kikuyu hustlers mouth. Nothing will stick while likes of Sudi are advocating for impoverished Nyamakima hustlers.

Ngeno first thing has never been a Jubilee candindate
He actually is not only known Kikuyu hater but also a fierce Ruto hater.
Ruto would never allow him in his corner. Ruto even campaigned against him in 2017




Title: Re: Nowayaha - You cannot bottle it anymore
Post by: Nowayhaha on September 07, 2020, 06:59:54 PM
Dude, you'll soon, face reality and stop blaming murkomen, sudi, ngeno. Things are hotting up. Now it's GEMA to accept Uhuru to be insulted if he allows Ruto to be insulted or disrespected. Hiyo tu.

If GEMA will sulk and love Uhuru - it's upto them. They should Know Uhuru started this.

It upto Uhuru. It always start this way. By next year - it will chaos - by 2022 - we will be calling for United Nations and International Community to intervene to save us.

All upto Uhuru - he should wisen up.

To be honest this is the only talk Gatheca Uhuru will understand, the gloves are off, its good they are telling him that. Should continue this way till the addict gets it. But no there will be No flame pundit.

Ngeno has been doing the same thing since time memorial, He is actually Railas point man in Rift Valley.





Ive not blamed Sudi actually Sudi attacks on Uhuru are very tactical and offer a comic relief.
He knows where to hit and if you look at the attacks they are in line with Rutos current campaign against Ruto men.
In his last attack he laid it  bare to Njee Muturi, George Kariuki, Murathe and Nzioka Waita. This is the nexus between Corruption and Rutos woes.
Its only a matter of time and they bulk
Ngenos so called attacks are just that , wont bother anyone.
Murkomen however as I told you if he  doesnt change tact will be out of poltics by 2022. He will be the fall boy.
Title: Re: Nowayaha - You cannot bottle it anymore
Post by: RV Pundit on September 07, 2020, 07:09:50 PM
Defenders will do defence the best way they know. Sometimes they get the leg in. Ruto should concrate on middle field and attack - and yes Murkomen should leave this to Sudi, Ngeno and such.
Ive not blamed Sudi actually Sudi attacks on Uhuru are very tactical and offer a comic relief.
He knows where to hit and if you look at the attacks they are in line with Rutos current campaign against Ruto men.
In his last attack he laid it  bare to Njee Muturi, George Kariuki, Murathe and Nzioka Waita. This is the nexus between Corruption and Rutos woes.
Its only a matter of time and they bulk
Ngenos so called attacks are just that , wont bother anyone.
Murkomen however as I told you if he  doesnt change tact will be out of poltics by 2022. He will be the fall boy.
Title: Re: Nowayaha - You cannot bottle it anymore
Post by: Nowayhaha on September 07, 2020, 07:13:37 PM
Well, Ruto will be doing a lot of restraining, but anger from Jubilee ASILI has boiled over. It bubbling. It cannot be bottled. Wacha kwanza BBI ianze. Hiyo BBI will seperate the Uhuru real supportes and Ruto real supporters.

And really Ruto is hitting Uhuru gov almost directly - it's just that you don't want to believe it.

I was like you for 3yrs - because it also didn't make sense why both would go for MAD - and leave Baba Raila smilling all the way to state house

Ruto would never allow him to be near him. Take this to the bank.
You seem not to know how Ruto operates, his reason of fallout with Rutto.

RV, weve been in this poltics for a very long time. Im not naive to know around 25%  or there about  of Rift Valley voted against Uhuruto in the last 2 elections, simply because of their hatred to Gema. There was also a substantial number of voters who reluctantly voted for UhuRuto because of the same. I categorize you in the latter.
In 2022 same will apply for Ruto, with BBI and its advocay for Premier and Regions   it will only galvanize his support in Mt Kenya

We are not alike, Im not emotional to appoint of using violence to blackmail supporters into voting for Ruto.
Raila is not going anywhere. If you see him sleepwalking to statehouse why dont you officially move to his side and support him.
Title: Re: Nowayaha - You cannot bottle it anymore
Post by: Nowayhaha on September 07, 2020, 07:25:38 PM
Rabid Uhurus, Murathes are really struggling to get something to make it a Kikuyu-Gema masses-Ruto beef ! Too bad even these family insults are in every broke Kikuyu hustlers mouth. Nothing will stick while likes of Sudi are advocating for impoverished Nyamakima hustlers.

Ngeno first thing has never been a Jubilee candindate
He actually is not only known Kikuyu hater but also a fierce Ruto hater.
Ruto would never allow him in his corner. Ruto even campaigned against him in 2017





This makes sense
Title: Re: Nowayaha - You cannot bottle it anymore
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on September 07, 2020, 07:26:54 PM
Next two years Uhuru will watch the country flame up if he doesn't wise up.


The breakup was predicted way back in 2013.
Title: Re: Nowayaha - You cannot bottle it anymore
Post by: gout on September 07, 2020, 07:29:59 PM
GEMA facebook/twitter ratted Uhuru from Twitter and Facebook. Kikuyu musicians have had to be threatened to cool off the ground. Too bad Uhuru drinking Jubilee mugithi buddy - Demathew guy had to have an accident.

With campaign mode, even Gema politicians will take sides against Uhuru - his tattered coat cannot offer little refuge to all ambitious politicians with an eye on the future. Uhuru/kenyatta political brand is damaged goods with corona devastating the economy.

Dude, you'll soon, face reality and stop blaming murkomen, sudi, ngeno. Things are hotting up. Now it's GEMA to accept Uhuru to be insulted if he allows Ruto to be insulted or disrespected. Hiyo tu.

If GEMA will sulk and love Uhuru - it's upto them. They should Know Uhuru started this

Title: Re: Nowayaha - You cannot bottle it anymore
Post by: Nowayhaha on September 07, 2020, 07:32:27 PM
Defenders will do defence the best way they know. Sometimes they get the leg in. Ruto should concrate on middle field and attack - and yes Murkomen should leave this to Sudi, Ngeno and such.
Ive not blamed Sudi actually Sudi attacks on Uhuru are very tactical and offer a comic relief.
He knows where to hit and if you look at the attacks they are in line with Rutos current campaign against Ruto men.
In his last attack he laid it  bare to Njee Muturi, George Kariuki, Murathe and Nzioka Waita. This is the nexus between Corruption and Rutos woes.
Its only a matter of time and they bulk
Ngenos so called attacks are just that , wont bother anyone.
Murkomen however as I told you if he  doesnt change tact will be out of poltics by 2022. He will be the fall boy.

Miguna used to be Railas best celebrated defender, We know where he is now, Jakoyo too used to Railas rabid dog he was Jetisonned in 2017.
There is a way it is done and never losing focus on the real enemy and goal. Ndindi Nyoro ,Kimani Ichungwa etc are doing it well
Title: Re: Nowayaha - You cannot bottle it anymore
Post by: Pragmatic on September 07, 2020, 07:46:17 PM
Ooh you make me wanna puke....!!

I keep beseeching you, you are overrating your capabilities and prowess. Bordering on juvenile excitement.... any skirmish will be extinguished with ultimate speed and full force of the law; try competing for violence with organised state ndio mtujua.

Please soak in the frustration silently.... many have gone through this and all they did is raise the matter and moved on. No need to be emotional and raise war cries of genocide!

What would Luos, Luhyas, Kisiis etc have done to you to attack them? Does it even make sense what you are saying? Please soak in your betrayal by Uhuru and his cabal/lackeys; leave us out of this.

We all know that this is a fallout among thieves. In the shootout/melee to share the spoils one has outgunned or outmaneuvered your boy.... also possibly frustrating or denying him the chance to eat on his own from 2022. That is the fallout and subsequent bitterness, nothing to do with the rest of us Kenyans who were mere spectators to the looting!

It is good to know that it has now sunk in that the parting of ways is now final. These noises are merely the final acceptance stage.


Again - where is the threat coming from. We are analyzing politics and scenarios. Let me help you - with clear example. We are in 2022 - "Deep State"
 aka "Uhuru" have made their intention known that they will rig election or heck - Ruto knows he will lose. Ruto has a choice to make. He can lose and wait to fight again like Raila until he is 80yrs - or he can decide to go rogue - boycott election - we saw with NASA didn't work. So what will most likely happen is RV will made a war zone - many tribes will be kicked out - I think Luhyas will the biggest causalities. That is pre-election. Post-election is the same. That why no election happens or another handshake is done.

So the more you see - the more you see Kenya in two years hurtling towards worst violence than 2007. Kalenjin will be insitigator. They have primed themselves for Ruto president. If they don't get it - they will re-open land issues from Tranzoia to Nakuru -

Now these are scenarios I am helping some of you understand - so you can protect yourselves early - if you have relatives in RV - the next two years - they better stay safe.

I know Kalenjin mindset inside out. We know Luos mindset. Learn to deal with facts.

Uhuru is to blame..first by rewarding NASA for treason...and for treating Ruto shabbily knowing he adopted a tiger (kalenjin).

Next you know Ruto has declared himself hustler president and we have a civil war. Ruto knows he has national support but nothing beat his violent arrow-happy Kalenjin that can be raise a million army in a second.

Kenya is slowly and surely going south. So this now were we need international community to watch out for next crisis.

Uhuru-Ruto fight will be gigantic.

The fact is, Ruto without Kikuyus will lose to Raila, Mudavadi or whoever he is running against. Threatening Kikuyus and all the other tribes is shooting an arrow in your own ass, I just cannot see this as a winning formula. Kenyans also get rubbed the wrong way when you are so entitled to think only your candidate can save the country from war. It’s either our candidate(Githinji) or bloodshed, this is not going to work. The genius of Raila is he is now boxing the Kalenjins into 41 vs 1 status, soon Kales will take over as the most hated tribe in Kenya, this is a title kiuks have been looking to lose for a long time.
Title: Re: Nowayaha - You cannot bottle it anymore
Post by: RV Pundit on September 07, 2020, 08:28:05 PM
What wrong did Gusii or Kikuyu peasant do in 2007. In my place, people were hunting them, for voting PNU. And so was my father. You don't understand just how fanatical support for Ruto is in Kalenjinland - and how frustration when it happens - will be vented. If Raila of 2007 was nasty - double that.

Most of you are unable to face reality. The reality is fallout btw Uhuru and Ruto is very bad news. And it will engulf the rest of the country quickly.

Ooh you make me wanna puke....!!

I keep beseeching you, you are overrating your capabilities and prowess. Bordering on juvenile excitement.... any skirmish will be extinguished with ultimate speed and full force of the law; try competing for violence with organised state ndio mtujua.

Please soak in the frustration silently.... many have gone through this and all they did is raise the matter and moved on. No need to be emotional and raise war cries of genocide!

What would Luos, Luhyas, Kisiis etc have done to you to attack them? Does it even make sense what you are saying? Please soak in your betrayal by Uhuru and his cabal/lackeys; leave us out of this.

We all know that this is a fallout among thieves. In the shootout/melee to share the spoils one has outgunned or outmaneuvered your boy.... also possibly frustrating or denying him the chance to eat on his own from 2022. That is the fallout and subsequent bitterness, nothing to do with the rest of us Kenyans who were mere spectators to the looting!

It is good to know that it has now sunk in that the parting of ways is now final. These noises are merely the final acceptance stage.


Again - where is the threat coming from. We are analyzing politics and scenarios. Let me help you - with clear example. We are in 2022 - "Deep State"
 aka "Uhuru" have made their intention known that they will rig election or heck - Ruto knows he will lose. Ruto has a choice to make. He can lose and wait to fight again like Raila until he is 80yrs - or he can decide to go rogue - boycott election - we saw with NASA didn't work. So what will most likely happen is RV will made a war zone - many tribes will be kicked out - I think Luhyas will the biggest causalities. That is pre-election. Post-election is the same. That why no election happens or another handshake is done.

So the more you see - the more you see Kenya in two years hurtling towards worst violence than 2007. Kalenjin will be insitigator. They have primed themselves for Ruto president. If they don't get it - they will re-open land issues from Tranzoia to Nakuru -

Now these are scenarios I am helping some of you understand - so you can protect yourselves early - if you have relatives in RV - the next two years - they better stay safe.

I know Kalenjin mindset inside out. We know Luos mindset. Learn to deal with facts.

Uhuru is to blame..first by rewarding NASA for treason...and for treating Ruto shabbily knowing he adopted a tiger (kalenjin).

Next you know Ruto has declared himself hustler president and we have a civil war. Ruto knows he has national support but nothing beat his violent arrow-happy Kalenjin that can be raise a million army in a second.

Kenya is slowly and surely going south. So this now were we need international community to watch out for next crisis.

Uhuru-Ruto fight will be gigantic.

The fact is, Ruto without Kikuyus will lose to Raila, Mudavadi or whoever he is running against. Threatening Kikuyus and all the other tribes is shooting an arrow in your own ass, I just cannot see this as a winning formula. Kenyans also get rubbed the wrong way when you are so entitled to think only your candidate can save the country from war. It’s either our candidate(Githinji) or bloodshed, this is not going to work. The genius of Raila is he is now boxing the Kalenjins into 41 vs 1 status, soon Kales will take over as the most hated tribe in Kenya, this is a title kiuks have been looking to lose for a long time.
Title: Re: Nowayaha - You cannot bottle it anymore
Post by: RV Pundit on September 07, 2020, 08:31:04 PM
Agreed. Rvs after kicking Moi royal family don't understand why GEMA dynasty can sit on you. People told MOI to go to hell - he was an orphan boy acting like a KIng. That is why you need Ngenos and Sudis to tell Uhuru to go  f himself and Mama ngina.

The way you're acting - you have a long way to revolution like Ruto led in RV that send Moi and his elite completely out. Now 20yr old kid can become a governor - the worse mistake in RV is to act like you're entitled.

You cannot take power from Uhuru and his elite by being nice. Kiunjuris and Ndindi Nyoros should save your people by telling Uhuru off long before Sudis has to do it.

Miguna used to be Railas best celebrated defender, We know where he is now, Jakoyo too used to Railas rabid dog he was Jetisonned in 2017.
There is a way it is done and never losing focus on the real enemy and goal. Ndindi Nyoro ,Kimani Ichungwa etc are doing it well
Title: Re: Nowayaha - You cannot bottle it anymore
Post by: gout on September 07, 2020, 09:10:28 PM
People act naive like they live in Geneva. A little commotion in Kaya Bombo or Kiambaa has had Gema wailing for ages yet some pretend how infallible they are, yet this had even Nairobi on halt. 

Heck, even those in Geneva had to come to town to cool things for a reason.
Title: Re: Nowayaha - You cannot bottle it anymore
Post by: Nowayhaha on September 07, 2020, 09:44:49 PM
RV, whats your take on Rutos opinion on this matter

Title: Re: Nowayaha - You cannot bottle it anymore
Post by: gout on September 07, 2020, 10:26:14 PM
The message is already home. This could even be a subtle way of kutonesha kidonda. Those who had not heard of the clips will look for them.

RV, whats your take on Rutos opinion on this matter

Title: Re: Nowayaha - You cannot bottle it anymore
Post by: Nowayhaha on September 07, 2020, 10:31:07 PM
The message is already home. This could even be a subtle way of kutonesha kidonda. Those who had not heard of the clips will look for them.

RV, whats your take on Rutos opinion on this matter


Message from whom ?
Title: Re: Nowayaha - You cannot bottle it anymore
Post by: RV Pundit on September 07, 2020, 11:04:13 PM
Good cop. Bad cop. Ruto has to stay presidential. But Uhuru has to be fought otherwise the man has already taken a mile from an inch granted.
RV, whats your take on Rutos opinion on this matter

Title: Re: Nowayaha - You cannot bottle it anymore
Post by: KenyanPlato on September 07, 2020, 11:10:10 PM
Ngeno always gets whipped. He has been whipped by police so many time that even kipsigi do not come to his aid. Starting a war now or in 2022 will be a big mistake for kaelnkins. They can start but this will be the turning point in kenya. I can see uhuru ruling for another 20 years. Uhuru is not kibaki. He won't just allow displacement of kikuyus. Everyone in central is waking up to the fact that ruto is not an option..in war there are no rules. I keep on hearing pundit talk about some rules in war. The next tribal clashes kalenjins will pay a heavy price and that all they need to know.
Title: Re: Nowayaha - You cannot bottle it anymore
Post by: RV Pundit on September 07, 2020, 11:22:21 PM
Ngeno and his people are very wild and hardened by conflict with Maasai. They are also the poorest of all Kipsigis. There are normally the guys who walk all the way from Transmara to Molo for war  (or likes of Kones would send lorries to pick them) - and stay there for some months just stealing cows. They are dogs of war. They also regularly - like every day sometimes - go for cattle rustling in Gusii - and such areas.There is permanent anti-stock brigade there but somehow the morons will still go and steal - now Uhuru is doing extra judicail killing . Very primitive bunch of people. In my mau land - some of them have grabbed a whole village - size land - owned by Moi era elite - and built grass thatched houses. They are armed and the owners have given up - the police knows they will be just too much bloodshed.

Ngeno is seen as hero who got const from Maasai jaws - so he is undefeatable - won in ODM (Maasai broke all ballot boxes) - election nullified - ODM gave ticket to Konchellah and he fell out with Ruto - then const was split - he won with KNC and then KANU.

So Ngeno is a legend - and his great grandfather Menya Arap Kisiara was one of Kipsigis greatest warrior - born in Kericho - but went to Transmara and kicked Maasai and settled Kipsigis there.
(https://scontent.fqls2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/p720x720/82966656_500822733903745_3991476806556319744_n.jpg?_nc_cat=109&_nc_sid=32a93c&_nc_ohc=hyv0gP2UI3UAX-YXfSa&_nc_ht=scontent.fqls2-1.fna&tp=6&oh=02d2c6d024ee782a0e3769a257066804&oe=5F7CE9CF)
Kisiara took large armies of Kipsigis platoons to conquer and found modern Trans-Mara. He also assisted Siria people from Kuria aggression.


Now big fight in Narok is on governorship - Kipsigis are probably now 50:50 with Maasai - and therefore we will see lots of bloodshed for sometime - as Maasai protect their last ground. kajiado is going gone.

Now below them - just at border with Tanzania are my grandmother brothers - now those are baddest of them all - living in Angat Barigoi - there are lots of illegal guns there - and the whole mess from Tanzania.

KenyaPlato just mind your milk - don't start a war - you cannot finish. You should see a sample of those people - every part of their skins has scratches and marks :).Chebalungu and Transmara folks walk with weapons 24-7. They are like Maasai - always armed with  a knife and stick or a rungu - they prefer large truck or railways bolt nuts - so if you joke around they break your skull.

Ngeno always gets whipped. He has been whipped by police so many time that even kipsigi do not come to his aid. Starting a war now or in 2022 will be a big mistake for kaelnkins. They can start but this will be the turning point in kenya. I can see uhuru ruling for another 20 years. Uhuru is not kibaki. He won't just allow displacement of kikuyus. Everyone in central is waking up to the fact that ruto is not an option..in war there are no rules. I keep on hearing pundit talk about some rules in war. The next tribal clashes kalenjins will pay a heavy price and that all they need to know.
Title: Re: Nowayaha - You cannot bottle it anymore
Post by: Pajero on September 08, 2020, 06:46:12 AM
Let kalenjins sort their wars with kikuyus,as of rest of us,we shall remain spectators and cheer keaders,.It's getting sweeter day by day,as long as the war is confined within kalenjin rift,life moves on in other parts of the country.
Title: Re: Nowayaha - You cannot bottle it anymore
Post by: Njuri Ncheke on September 08, 2020, 08:23:25 AM
Let kalenjins sort their wars with kikuyus,as of rest of us,we shall remain spectators and cheer keaders,.It's getting sweeter day by day,as long as the war is confined within kalenjin rift,life moves on in other parts of the country.
Am also getting to the same conclusion now :(
Title: Re: Nowayaha - You cannot bottle it anymore
Post by: Kadudu on September 08, 2020, 09:49:20 AM
Pundit, do you even believe one man will be assaulted in Kiambu, Mombasa, Garissa or even Kakamega because of the two looters fallout?

I have mentioned to you several times, any violence will be to the detrement of the Kalejin and to no one else.

What wrong did Gusii or Kikuyu peasant do in 2007. In my place, people were hunting them, for voting PNU. And so was my father. You don't understand just how fanatical support for Ruto is in Kalenjinland - and how frustration when it happens - will be vented. If Raila of 2007 was nasty - double that.

Most of you are unable to face reality. The reality is fallout btw Uhuru and Ruto is very bad news. And it will engulf the rest of the country quickly.
Title: Re: Nowayaha - You cannot bottle it anymore
Post by: Kadudu on September 08, 2020, 09:51:28 AM
In ololo we would say, umedinya point. :D :D :D
Leave Kalejins to sound their war cries alone. They have not even noticed the loud silence coming from their support base in Mt Kenya.

Let kalenjins sort their wars with kikuyus,as of rest of us,we shall remain spectators and cheer keaders,.It's getting sweeter day by day,as long as the war is confined within kalenjin rift,life moves on in other parts of the country.
Title: Re: Nowayaha - You cannot bottle it anymore
Post by: Nowayhaha on September 08, 2020, 10:14:38 AM
People act naive like they live in Geneva. A little commotion in Kaya Bombo or Kiambaa has had Gema wailing for ages yet some pretend how infallible they are, yet this had even Nairobi on halt. 

Heck, even those in Geneva had to come to town to cool things for a reason.

Kaya bombo affected Luo Nyanza and Kambas than any other political region .
Title: Re: Nowayaha - You cannot bottle it anymore
Post by: Nowayhaha on September 08, 2020, 10:23:40 AM
Agreed. Rvs after kicking Moi royal family don't understand why GEMA dynasty can sit on you. People told MOI to go to hell - he was an orphan boy acting like a KIng. That is why you need Ngenos and Sudis to tell Uhuru to go  f himself and Mama ngina.

The way you're acting - you have a long way to revolution like Ruto led in RV that send Moi and his elite completely out. Now 20yr old kid can become a governor - the worse mistake in RV is to act like you're entitled.

You cannot take power from Uhuru and his elite by being nice. Kiunjuris and Ndindi Nyoros should save your people by telling Uhuru off long before Sudis has to do it.

Miguna used to be Railas best celebrated defender, We know where he is now, Jakoyo too used to Railas rabid dog he was Jetisonned in 2017.
There is a way it is done and never losing focus on the real enemy and goal. Ndindi Nyoro ,Kimani Ichungwa etc are doing it well

From History the facts are different , Kenyattas dynasty was actually defeated in 1997 Gatundu elections, In 2002 General elections . In 2005 Referendumn , Mt Kenya were on the opposing side of Kenyatta dynasty  .
Note that even Kenyattas relatives opposed their own blood in 97 and 2002 elections (Beth Mugo et all)
It too Uhuru Kenyatta realising that to get Mt Kenya support he has to go with mood on ground hence switching of camps in 2007 elections and rescinding his decision of supporting Mudavadi in 2013 .
Right now the mood on ground  is so pro Ruto that has left the the Kenyatta and his kitchen cabinet wondering what the hell is going on.
Bottom line is Kenyatta has never been a factor is Mt Kenya politics , actually Raila has been the factor from 2005 upto now . Uhuru just was lucky to position himself as a strong Anti Raila candidate in 2013 and he was aided with the ICC 6 .

 
Title: Re: Nowayaha - You cannot bottle it anymore
Post by: RV Pundit on September 08, 2020, 10:33:33 AM
Agreed. The referendum will be good test. Otherwise Uhuru and his elite interest seem to clash with community interest. They are driving GEMA and Kenya to a ditch - and everyone knows how it will pan out.
From History the facts are different , Kenyattas dynasty was actually defeated in 1997 Gatundu elections, In 2002 General elections . In 2005 Referendumn , Mt Kenya were on the opposing side of Kenyatta dynasty  .
Note that even Kenyattas relatives opposed their own blood in 97 and 2002 elections (Beth Mugo et all)
It too Uhuru Kenyatta realising that to get Mt Kenya support he has to go with mood on ground hence switching of camps in 2007 elections and rescinding his decision of supporting Mudavadi in 2013 .
Right now the mood on ground  is so pro Ruto that has left the the Kenyatta and his kitchen cabinet wondering what the hell is going on.
Bottom line is Kenyatta has never been a factor is Mt Kenya politics , actually Raila has been the factor from 2005 upto now . Uhuru just was lucky to position himself as a strong Anti Raila candidate in 2013 and he was aided with the ICC 6 .

 
Title: Re: Nowayaha - You cannot bottle it anymore
Post by: Nefertiti on October 15, 2020, 10:49:46 AM
So when is the genocide starting? :)
Title: Re: Nowayaha - You cannot bottle it anymore
Post by: gout on October 15, 2020, 04:48:30 PM
Ufool has been slapped to reality which we kept shouting for your deaf ears. Or what reconcile or truce for?
Muheria is Vatican NIS - the talks in churches are enough barometer.

So when is the genocide starting? :)