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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: KenyanPlato on July 16, 2020, 05:34:22 PM

Title: One meal a day sounds like a good way to live
Post by: KenyanPlato on July 16, 2020, 05:34:22 PM
I am instuting this for myself. A cup of tea in the morning. Dinner at 6 pm and that is it. I need to train my body to layoff food. I need to use all the fat stored in my body. Exercise without radical diet change is a waste of time

My dad did this after having a heart attack at 60. I think this lifestyle has,bought him 10 more years.

I have 5 years to undo the lifetime of damage

Title: Re: One meal a day sounds like a good way to live
Post by: Arcadian_Dreamer on July 17, 2020, 06:27:02 AM
You probably have fatty liver syndrome, insulin resistance, massive inflammation, IBD and other issues. Kikuyus have a subpar diet. Githeri is not healthy food despite what most people think. Beans and legumes contain lectins which wreck havoc in the gut, they are also responsible for tooth decay. OMD aka one-meal-day is good start but it has to be keto. No grains, nor sugars, no fruits, no beers. Only then will the body begin to heal its self.

Title: Re: One meal a day sounds like a good way to live
Post by: veritas on July 17, 2020, 12:02:52 PM
Don't skip brekky.. !
Title: Re: One meal a day sounds like a good way to live
Post by: KenyanPlato on July 17, 2020, 04:06:26 PM
My breaky is at 4 pm and that the only meal. Break fast is literally breaking a fast. So I break my fast at 4 pm daily
Title: Re: One meal a day sounds like a good way to live
Post by: KenyanPlato on July 17, 2020, 05:12:00 PM
10 am not hungry at all. Last meal 3 pm yesterday. The 3 meals a day requirement is bullshit
Title: Re: One meal a day sounds like a good way to live
Post by: gout on July 17, 2020, 05:12:54 PM
And the way this shitty Githeri meal gets pushed as national diets in schools. Must be having an effect on brain development given the Zombie like status of majority population.

You probably have fatty liver syndrome, insulin resistance, massive inflammation, IBD and other issues. Kikuyus have a subpar diet. Githeri is not healthy food despite what most people think. Beans and legumes contain lectins which wreck havoc in the gut, they are also responsible for tooth decay. OMD aka one-meal-day is good start but it has to be keto. No grains, nor sugars, no fruits, no beers. Only then will the body begin to heal its self.

Title: Re: One meal a day sounds like a good way to live
Post by: RV Pundit on July 17, 2020, 05:13:00 PM
You're complicating life. Eat when you feel like eating. When you're hungry.
10 am not hungry at all. Last meal 3 pm yesterday. The 3 meals a day requirement is bullshit
Title: Re: One meal a day sounds like a good way to live
Post by: KenyanPlato on July 17, 2020, 05:17:06 PM
You probably have fatty liver syndrome, insulin resistance, massive inflammation, IBD and other issues. Kikuyus have a subpar diet. Githeri is not healthy food despite what most people think. Beans and legumes contain lectins which wreck havoc in the gut, they are also responsible for tooth decay. OMD aka one-meal-day is good start but it has to be keto. No grains, nor sugars, no fruits, no beers. Only then will the body begin to heal its self.


You love pseudoscience. What the heck is this snake oil sales man talking about
Title: Re: One meal a day sounds like a good way to live
Post by: Kichwa on July 17, 2020, 05:18:54 PM
Sounds good in theory but the problem is sustainability. Fighting hunger is a losing battle.  Good luck though.

I am instuting this for myself. A cup of tea in the morning. Dinner at 6 pm and that is it. I need to train my body to layoff food. I need to use all the fat stored in my body. Exercise without radical diet change is a waste of time

My dad did this after having a heart attack at 60. I think this lifestyle has,bought him 10 more years.

I have 5 years to undo the lifetime of damage

Title: Re: One meal a day sounds like a good way to live
Post by: KenyanPlato on July 17, 2020, 05:20:35 PM
You're complicating life. Eat when you feel like eating. When you're hungry.
10 am not hungry at all. Last meal 3 pm yesterday. The 3 meals a day requirement is bullshit

How much do you weigh? How is your energy  level? Pundit I am actually,found this to be very easy. This not a diet but a lifestyle change. My dad did thsi and the guy dropped from,over 240 pounds to 160. He dropped this weight in his 60s. You see how turkana  are healthy. It is because their lifestyle doesn't, revolve around eating. Diets do not work but a lifestyle  change can work and I am working on changing my lifestyle
Title: Re: One meal a day sounds like a good way to live
Post by: RV Pundit on July 17, 2020, 05:24:50 PM
I am slightly obese -  but generally I am stuck the last 15yrs on 83-89kilos - for six feet tall man. I don't exercise or diet. I eat anytime I want.I drink lots of alcohol - now mostly whisky.

How much do you weigh? How is your energy  level? Pundit I am actually,found this to be very easy. This not a diet but a lifestyle change. My dad did thsi and the guy dropped from,over 240 pounds to 160. He dropped this weight in his 60s. You see how turkana  are healthy. It is because their lifestyle doesn't, revolve around eating. Diets do not work but a lifestyle  change can work and I am working on changing my lifestyle
Title: Re: One meal a day sounds like a good way to live
Post by: Kichwa on July 17, 2020, 05:26:21 PM
Just because it worked for your father does not mean it will work for you.  There are also issues of  lifestyle, age, hormones etc. It is a good thing to start somewhere and then tweak to find what works for you. There are the basics and then no one program works for everyone. You just have to keep trying until you find what works for you.

You're complicating life. Eat when you feel like eating. When you're hungry.
10 am not hungry at all. Last meal 3 pm yesterday. The 3 meals a day requirement is bullshit

How much do you weigh? How is your energy  level? Pundit I am actually,found this to be very easy. This not a diet but a lifestyle change. My dad did thsi and the guy dropped from,over 240 pounds to 160. He dropped this weight in his 60s. You see how turkana  are healthy. It is because their lifestyle doesn't, revolve around eating. Diets do not work but a lifestyle  change can work and I am working on changing my lifestyle
Title: Re: One meal a day sounds like a good way to live
Post by: KenyanPlato on July 17, 2020, 05:43:45 PM
Just because it worked for your father does not mean it will work for you.  There are also issues of  lifestyle, age, hormones etc. It is a good thing to start somewhere and then tweak to find what works for you. There are the basics and then no one program works for everyone. You just have to keep trying until you find what works for you.

You're complicating life. Eat when you feel like eating. When you're hungry.
10 am not hungry at all. Last meal 3 pm yesterday. The 3 meals a day requirement is bullshit

How much do you weigh? How is your energy  level? Pundit I am actually,found this to be very easy. This not a diet but a lifestyle change. My dad did thsi and the guy dropped from,over 240 pounds to 160. He dropped this weight in his 60s. You see how turkana  are healthy. It is because their lifestyle doesn't, revolve around eating. Diets do not work but a lifestyle  change can work and I am working on changing my lifestyle

I agree but this seems easy. I have done keto and Atkins both,very hard to,follow. However this one seems easy to adopt. Once you beat hunger hormones the first few days you are good to go. Fasting is useless  because after fasting you have to go back to old habits
Title: Re: One meal a day sounds like a good way to live
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on July 17, 2020, 05:55:52 PM
Kikuyus have a subpar diet. Githeri is not healthy food despite what most people think.

That is patently untrue.  Githeri is really healthy.  The only downside is flatulence, which happens with quite a few other good foods.

Beans and legumes contain lectins which wreck havoc in the gut, they are also responsible for tooth decay. OMD aka one-meal-day is good start but it has to be keto. No grains, nor sugars, no fruits, no beers. Only then will the body begin to heal its self.

I read somewhere lectins are destroyed by boiling.  In my experience, githeri beans are usually boiled almost to a pulp.
Title: Re: One meal a day sounds like a good way to live
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on July 17, 2020, 05:57:40 PM
You're complicating life. Eat when you feel like eating. When you're hungry.
10 am not hungry at all. Last meal 3 pm yesterday. The 3 meals a day requirement is bullshit

Depends on the environment though.  IMO if you work manual labor this is the way to go.  If you are prone over a desk for the better of the day, you probably need to watch what you eating.
Title: Re: One meal a day sounds like a good way to live
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on July 17, 2020, 06:00:58 PM
You're complicating life. Eat when you feel like eating. When you're hungry.
10 am not hungry at all. Last meal 3 pm yesterday. The 3 meals a day requirement is bullshit

How much do you weigh? How is your energy  level? Pundit I am actually,found this to be very easy. This not a diet but a lifestyle change. My dad did thsi and the guy dropped from,over 240 pounds to 160. He dropped this weight in his 60s. You see how turkana  are healthy. It is because their lifestyle doesn't, revolve around eating. Diets do not work but a lifestyle  change can work and I am working on changing my lifestyle

I sort of agree, though I suspect your idea is a bit extreme.  But I get your point about working and not eating healthy.  Working out can even run counter to good outcomes, because your appetite tends to go up.  But then, so does your metabolism.
Title: Re: One meal a day sounds like a good way to live
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on July 17, 2020, 07:35:55 PM
Just because it worked for your father does not mean it will work for you.  There are also issues of  lifestyle, age, hormones etc. It is a good thing to start somewhere and then tweak to find what works for you. There are the basics and then no one program works for everyone. You just have to keep trying until you find what works for you.

You're complicating life. Eat when you feel like eating. When you're hungry.
10 am not hungry at all. Last meal 3 pm yesterday. The 3 meals a day requirement is bullshit

How much do you weigh? How is your energy  level? Pundit I am actually,found this to be very easy. This not a diet but a lifestyle change. My dad did thsi and the guy dropped from,over 240 pounds to 160. He dropped this weight in his 60s. You see how turkana  are healthy. It is because their lifestyle doesn't, revolve around eating. Diets do not work but a lifestyle  change can work and I am working on changing my lifestyle

I agree but this seems easy. I have done keto and Atkins both,very hard to,follow. However this one seems easy to adopt. Once you beat hunger hormones the first few days you are good to go. Fasting is useless  because after fasting you have to go back to old habits

The real issue IMO(and I may be misreading) is trying to be as trim as a professional athlete.  Actually that is not healthy, in the long run.  There is an acceptable amount of fat(you don't need to see every vein and striation).  IMO as long as you are keeping fit and checking all your dietary needs, it shouldn't matter what you weigh.
Title: Re: One meal a day sounds like a good way to live
Post by: veritas on July 18, 2020, 07:34:09 AM
KP, you're beautiful as you are, don't let no-one body shame you. Eat healthy, think healthy and be kind to yourself.
Title: Re: One meal a day sounds like a good way to live
Post by: Arcadian_Dreamer on July 18, 2020, 08:02:25 AM
Kikuyus have a subpar diet. Githeri is not healthy food despite what most people think.

That is patently untrue.  Githeri is really healthy.  The only downside is flatulence, which happens with quite a few other good foods.

Beans and legumes contain lectins which wreck havoc in the gut, they are also responsible for tooth decay. OMD aka one-meal-day is good start but it has to be keto. No grains, nor sugars, no fruits, no beers. Only then will the body begin to heal its self.

I read somewhere lectins are destroyed by boiling.  In my experience, githeri beans are usually boiled almost to a pulp.

Not so fast, patna.

"Phytic acid is one of a number of “anti-nutrients” in grains and legumes. For an introduction to this subject, please see this article. Proper preparation of whole grains will neutralize a large portion of these problematic compounds."

"Studies on phytic acid reveal that for some people, the phytic acid in whole grains blocks calcium, zinc, magnesium, iron and copper; others seem immune to these adverse consequences, probably because of favorable gut flora, which in some cases can break down phytic acid. In addition, when animal fats providing vitamins A and D accompany dietary whole grains, the effects of phytic acid are mitigated."

Only pressure cooking them will get rid of lectins.

Grains, legumes require careful preparation to get rid of the anti nutrients that the plant uses as self defense.
Title: Re: One meal a day sounds like a good way to live
Post by: Georgesoros on July 18, 2020, 03:54:55 PM
KP
If you put used oil in your car am sure it will not last long.
Same thing with your body. Keep feeding on Big Macs and we see how long youll last without pains and aches
Title: Re: One meal a day sounds like a good way to live
Post by: KenyanPlato on July 18, 2020, 05:10:13 PM
KP
If you put used oil in your car am sure it will not last long.
Same thing with your body. Keep feeding on Big Macs and we see how long youll last without pains and aches

That what I am planning to runaway from. I eat healthy most of the time. My problem was eating uncessarily
Title: Re: One meal a day sounds like a good way to live
Post by: Native Son on July 19, 2020, 05:43:46 AM
You're complicating life. Eat when you feel like eating. When you're hungry.
10 am not hungry at all. Last meal 3 pm yesterday. The 3 meals a day requirement is bullshit

How much do you weigh? How is your energy  level? Pundit I am actually,found this to be very easy. This not a diet but a lifestyle change. My dad did thsi and the guy dropped from,over 240 pounds to 160. He dropped this weight in his 60s. You see how turkana  are healthy. It is because their lifestyle doesn't, revolve around eating. Diets do not work but a lifestyle  change can work and I am working on changing my lifestyle


STOP THE PRESS!

Turkanas are NOT healthy!

They starve!

Get serious man!
Title: Re: One meal a day sounds like a good way to live
Post by: Native Son on July 19, 2020, 05:45:48 AM
The best way to lose weight is to run.

JUST RUN!

Then, eat virtually anything.

Starving yourself only works for a time.

Your body needs fuel. You cannot starve it unless there is literally no food........and by that I mean unless THERE IS A FAMINE!

You starve yourself and start getting headaches.

Just run, run, run.

You are welcome!
Title: Re: One meal a day sounds like a good way to live
Post by: Arcadian_Dreamer on July 19, 2020, 06:56:30 AM
The best way to lose weight is to run.

JUST RUN!

Then, eat virtually anything.

Starving yourself only works for a time.

Your body needs fuel. You cannot starve it unless there is literally no food........and by that I mean unless THERE IS A FAMINE!

You starve yourself and start getting headaches.

Just run, run, run.

You are welcome!

You can't  run if your  overweight, knee issues will quickly stop you.

I know people who run everyday who are still overweight. So there is clearly something else going on.

It is not a simple as running, diets, exercise, moods all play a part. If you are stressed you will be put on weight because your body produces cortisol which is a signal for your body to store fat.

Title: Re: One meal a day sounds like a good way to live
Post by: KenyanPlato on July 19, 2020, 02:33:14 PM
Starving is when you cant get food. This internment  fasting is to allow your body to regulate insulin production. This coupled with a healthy diet makes it easier to lose weight and have a permanent lifestyle change. You see 3 meals a day nonsense is western civilization creation. I doubt our forefather 200 years ago ate more than twice a day. There was no need. Their diet was very basic and it was eating to live not living to eat. Think about the bs today. You wake up to plate of eggs and sausages, at 10 am you 0have a snack. At 12 you eat lunch and at 6 pm you eat dinner. This crazy. No wonder the world is literary a trough ..coz you got eat every 4 hours like a dairy cow