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Title: Americans are getting tired of Cops
Post by: KenyanPlato on May 28, 2020, 06:23:22 PM
In the 1990s riots used to involve mostly Black people. Now days BLM has been able to recruit all races and every protest against police brutality has a good representation of the society.

American institutions are failing to evolve quickly to meet the changing demographics. I think the police force may be the first to be annihilated by angry citizens. The next will be justice system.

https://twitter.com/i/events/1265874933432737792


https://twitter.com/i/events/1265874933432737792



Protester surrounded the killer cop home and now PD had to guard him. The optic of a whole battallion guarding a cop are not good. Fuck I wish I was in Minnesota I would be there fighting these motherfuckers

https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/gs3cc7/large_group_of_officers_lined_up_in_front_of/
Title: Re: Americans are getting tired of Cops
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on May 28, 2020, 07:02:58 PM
Slave patrols and the institution of American police have a lot in common.
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The American South relied almost exclusively on slave labor and white Southerners lived in near constant fear of slave rebellions disrupting this economic status quo. As a result, these patrols were one of the earliest and most prolific forms of early policing in the South. The responsibility of patrols was straightforward—to control the movements and behaviors of enslaved populations. According to historian Gary Potter, slave patrols served three main functions.


(1) to chase down, apprehend, and return to their owners, runaway slaves;
(2) to provide a form of organized terror to deter slave revolts; and,
(3) to maintain a form of discipline for slave-workers who were subject to summary justice, outside the law.”

Organized policing was one of the many types of social controls imposed on enslaved African Americans in the South. Physical and psychological violence took many forms, including an overseer’s brutal whip, the intentional breakup of families, deprivation of food and other necessities, and the private employment of slave catchers to track down runaways.

https://lawenforcementmuseum.org/2019/07/10/slave-patrols-an-early-form-of-american-policing/ (https://lawenforcementmuseum.org/2019/07/10/slave-patrols-an-early-form-of-american-policing/)

After slavery ended, lynchings became the means of black control.  The mob would show up at your porch and demand you politely hand over the "suspect" to face the law.  These days it's gun totting cops doing the same.  The suspect often ends up dead.

Then there is the fact that the policing system in America is in place to "enforce the law".  Not to protect anybody.  Cops are literally not legally obliged to protect anybody from harm https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Town_of_Castle_Rock_v._Gonzales (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Town_of_Castle_Rock_v._Gonzales).  That usually grants "law enforcement" priority over ensuring the safety of suspects and grants a sort of licence to kill(especially black suspects).
Title: Re: Americans are getting tired of Cops
Post by: RV Pundit on May 28, 2020, 08:30:05 PM
Everyone should get mad at this and very very mad so this can stop happening.
Title: Re: Americans are getting tired of Cops
Post by: Njuri Ncheke on May 28, 2020, 10:01:06 PM
In the 1990s riots used to involve mostly Black people. Now days BLM has been able to recruit all races and every protest against police brutality has a good representation of the society.

American institutions are failing to evolve quickly to meet the changing demographics. I think the police force may be the first to be annihilated by angry citizens. The next will be justice system.

https://twitter.com/i/events/1265874933432737792


https://twitter.com/i/events/1265874933432737792



Protester surrounded the killer cop home and now PD had to guard him. The optic of a whole battallion guarding a cop are not good. Fuck I wish I was in Minnesota I would be there fighting these motherfuckers

https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/gs3cc7/large_group_of_officers_lined_up_in_front_of/
Come back to Kenya. Whites will chew you guys up. You need come invest in Limuru. American dream vaporized
Title: Re: Americans are getting tired of Cops
Post by: KenyanPlato on May 28, 2020, 10:51:52 PM
In the 1990s riots used to involve mostly Black people. Now days BLM has been able to recruit all races and every protest against police brutality has a good representation of the society.

American institutions are failing to evolve quickly to meet the changing demographics. I think the police force may be the first to be annihilated by angry citizens. The next will be justice system.

https://twitter.com/i/events/1265874933432737792


https://twitter.com/i/events/1265874933432737792


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Protester surrounded the killer cop home and now PD had to guard him. The optic of a whole battallion guarding a cop are not good. Fuck I wish I was in Minnesota I would be there fighting these motherfuckers

https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/gs3cc7/large_group_of_officers_lined_up_in_front_of/
Come back to Kenya. Whites will chew you guys up. You need come invest in Limuru. American dream vaporized

I became a honorary negro so kenya is out of question
Title: Re: Americans are getting tired of Cops
Post by: gout on May 29, 2020, 09:04:43 AM
Revolutionary development in addressing the systemic racism in criminal justice institutions.
Title: Re: Americans are getting tired of Cops
Post by: gout on May 29, 2020, 09:24:42 AM
Capitalism is used very worried about looting. They can't understand why people are angry.
Title: Re: Americans are getting tired of Cops
Post by: KenyanPlato on May 29, 2020, 07:36:11 PM
(https://i.redd.it/g5dczhcagm151.png)
Title: Re: Americans are getting tired of Cops
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on May 30, 2020, 12:46:53 AM
Capitalism is used very worried about looting. They can't understand why people are angry.

They can, but because they are racists, looting is a convenient deflection.   
Title: Re: Americans are getting tired of Cops
Post by: Nefertiti on May 30, 2020, 01:19:36 PM
kimeumana
Title: Re: Americans are getting tired of Cops
Post by: Nefertiti on May 30, 2020, 06:00:38 PM
With this madness it's looking up for Trump in November.
Title: Re: Americans are getting tired of Cops
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on May 30, 2020, 07:11:01 PM
With this madness it's looking up for Trump in November.

He still has to pull off the margins that worked for him against Clinton in Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin.  It was possible with Clinton because they were both historically unpopular.  It's an uphill task with Biden, who probably just needs to turn around one of those states to win.  It's easy to forget that Trump suffered a historical deficit in the popular vote for a winner.
Title: Re: Americans are getting tired of Cops
Post by: Nefertiti on May 30, 2020, 09:08:48 PM
With this madness it's looking up for Trump in November.

He still has to pull off the margins that worked for him against Clinton in Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin.  It was possible with Clinton because they were both historically unpopular.  It's an uphill task with Biden, who probably just needs to turn around one of those states to win.  It's easy to forget that Trump suffered a historical deficit in the popular vote for a winner.

Racism and religion are Trump's biggest cards. His base is rednecks and evangelicals.  These racial divide is literally GOTV for him. Racial fireworks further wedge the white women vote - Trump beat Hillary in this demographic. The "build the wall" fringe - deplorables - are what delivered Trump.
Title: Re: Americans are getting tired of Cops
Post by: Georgesoros on May 31, 2020, 02:24:43 AM
Trump will use any means, including murder to get elected. If he does expect more chaos or even WW3 as he has advocated for it. Its all about him.
Title: Re: Americans are getting tired of Cops
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on May 31, 2020, 03:21:49 AM
If he loses, I have no doubt he will try to do something stupid.  Maybe take everyone down with him.  His freedom now hinges on staying in office.  Especially given that Biden has said he would not pardon the guy.

Earlier today downtown. 

Title: Re: Americans are getting tired of Cops
Post by: gout on May 31, 2020, 09:28:45 AM
With the sun out, these people are not going back to the shitty stay at home nonsense. Even white supremacists want out for the sun- they were already protesting to be allowed out.

The Trump reelection will be greatest political casualty given he was riding on employment and economy rebound even among nyeuthis.
Title: Re: Americans are getting tired of Cops
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on May 31, 2020, 10:38:29 PM
With the sun out, these people are not going back to the shitty stay at home nonsense. Even white supremacists want out for the sun- they were already protesting to be allowed out.

The Trump reelection will be greatest political casualty given he was riding on employment and economy rebound even among nyeuthis.

Lockdown is officially over with a bang I guess.  I am crossing my fingers.
Title: Re: Americans are getting tired of Cops
Post by: Nefertiti on June 01, 2020, 08:19:37 AM
With the sun out, these people are not going back to the shitty stay at home nonsense. Even white supremacists want out for the sun- they were already protesting to be allowed out.

The Trump reelection will be greatest political casualty given he was riding on employment and economy rebound even among nyeuthis.

Yup. The COVID statistics are not going to be kind.
Title: Re: Americans are getting tired of Cops
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on June 01, 2020, 08:01:05 PM
With the sun out, these people are not going back to the shitty stay at home nonsense. Even white supremacists want out for the sun- they were already protesting to be allowed out.

The Trump reelection will be greatest political casualty given he was riding on employment and economy rebound even among nyeuthis.

Yup. The COVID statistics are not going to be kind.

Or they could and it would be a prison break from there on.  Fauci would be on the ropes.  Let's see how it pans out in two weeks.
Title: Re: Americans are getting tired of Cops
Post by: KenyanPlato on June 01, 2020, 09:48:02 PM
Wow, this has greatly embrassed US and expose how deadly Trump racism has become. Even Europeans are matching on US embassies. Wow, what a shame to the Empire. America needs to change quickly before demographics finally bring about bloody end to this empire
Title: Re: Americans are getting tired of Cops
Post by: Garliv on June 01, 2020, 09:58:51 PM
The Empire has been in steady decline for long. Now just a trigger and it all come down speedily. And looks like INTERNAL COMBUSTION is almost.

Yes, police violence (murders) are the trigger but US has lots of issues at the moment ranging from record numbers of unemployed and economy which was offshored long time ago to China. Then add this Covid-19 fuckups and lockdown and it's a tinderbox...

Should Kenya ask UN to send troops "to protect the good American citizens from police/regime brutality!?" I propose troops from Syria, Venezuela, Cuba and Iran.  :D :D


Wow, this has greatly embrassed US and expose how deadly Trump racism has become. Even Europeans are matching on US embassies. Wow, what a shame to the Empire. America needs to change quickly before demographics finally bring about bloody end to this empire
Title: Re: Americans are getting tired of Cops
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on June 01, 2020, 10:02:11 PM
Wow, this has greatly embrassed US and expose how deadly Trump racism has become. Even Europeans are matching on US embassies. Wow, what a shame to the Empire. America needs to change quickly before demographics finally bring about bloody end to this empire

While Trump is not helpful to put it mildly, this is not on him.  There is 250 years history behind the police brutality.  Someone (was it Will Smith?) said, "Racism is not getting worse, it's getting filmed".
Title: Re: Americans are getting tired of Cops
Post by: KenyanPlato on June 01, 2020, 10:05:48 PM
The Empire has been in steady decline for long. Now just a trigger and it all come down speedily. And looks like INTERNAL COMBUSTION is almost.

Yes, police violence (murders) are the trigger but US has lots of issues at the moment ranging from record numbers of unemployed and economy which was offshored long time ago to China. Then add this Covid-19 fuckups and lockdown and it's a tinderbox...

Should Kenya ask UN to send troops "to protect the good American citizens from police/regime brutality!?" I propose troops from Syria, Venezuela, Cuba and Iran.  :D :D


Wow, this has greatly embrassed US and expose how deadly Trump racism has become. Even Europeans are matching on US embassies. Wow, what a shame to the Empire. America needs to change quickly before demographics finally bring about bloody end to this empire

America is coming off at seams.. In this protest for example the are the following groups.

If White conservatives keep on insisting against democracy or holding onto power by any means there will be a 2nd Civil War and it will be nasty. I think Trump is walking into a dangerous trap. once the Army is out there anything can go. He can lose control and lose his life. There is no reason why a disgruntled company wont just head to the white house and take him out

Anarchists - Usually young whitemen who detest capitalism and govt. They are always organized and opportunists. Most operate in cells of less that 10 people and carry out uncordinated attacks on the symbols of capitalism during protests
Anifa - Anti facists usually rank and file white who are mitilias protecting Black people during protests and counter protests. They give safe passages in places that are hostile to Blacks

The young Millienials and new generations . This group sees beyond race and is very comfortable in a diverse America. They have the most power and a very agressive in wanting to destroy the current systme. they are the power behind BLM. As of this moment they have nothing to lose but to gain. 

Remember a 17 year old recorded this murder for 10 minutes without losing focus. She was not trained but was just focused on getting this out. She has changed the course of history in US.
Title: Re: Americans are getting tired of Cops
Post by: KenyanPlato on June 01, 2020, 10:14:41 PM
Wow, this has greatly embrassed US and expose how deadly Trump racism has become. Even Europeans are matching on US embassies. Wow, what a shame to the Empire. America needs to change quickly before demographics finally bring about bloody end to this empire

While Trump is not helpful to put it mildly, this is not on him.  There is 250 years history behind the police brutality.  Someone (was it Will Smith?) said, "Racism is not getting worse, it's getting filmed".

It hasn't helped that he is riding the race anxiety horse to keep his deplorables.
Title: Re: Americans are getting tired of Cops
Post by: Nefertiti on June 01, 2020, 10:18:09 PM
Title: Re: Americans are getting tired of Cops
Post by: Nefertiti on June 01, 2020, 10:23:39 PM
Title: Re: Americans are getting tired of Cops
Post by: Nefertiti on June 01, 2020, 11:01:31 PM
Plato & Garliv - the US is still a very successful enterprise despite the menopause glitches.. Go slow om the sour grapes.
Title: Re: Americans are getting tired of Cops
Post by: KenyanPlato on June 01, 2020, 11:23:59 PM
Plato & Garliv - the US is still a very successful enterprise despite the menopause glitches.. Go slow om the sour grapes.

Us is limping on all fours. It js an aged lion
Title: Re: Americans are getting tired of Cops
Post by: Nefertiti on June 01, 2020, 11:55:24 PM
Plato & Garliv - the US is still a very successful enterprise despite the menopause glitches.. Go slow om the sour grapes.

Us is limping on all fours. It js an aged lion

Here we have only human or political problems. While in Kenya people die of starvation or floods. US and Western problems are like a plane crush - everyone ignores all the 000's of road deaths and obsess with 200 dead in the Boeing Dreamliner. Boko Haram has probably killed and maimed 100's in this same week of George Floyd riots... who cares? The world is oblivious to the death and misery of the poor.
Title: Re: Americans are getting tired of Cops
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on June 02, 2020, 12:35:29 AM
Plato & Garliv - the US is still a very successful enterprise despite the menopause glitches.. Go slow om the sour grapes.

Us is limping on all fours. It js an aged lion

Here we have only human or political problems. While in Kenya people die of starvation or floods. US and Western problems are like a plane crush - everyone ignores all the 000's of road deaths and obsess with 200 dead in the Boeing Dreamliner. Boko Haram has probably killed and maimed 100's in this same week of George Floyd riots... who cares? The world is oblivious to the death and misery of the poor.

I believe under Trump, the US is losing its most important tool of influence.  Soft power.  The only power where it now remains unmatched is military power.  But military power has limited scope. 

Aside from that, 4 years ago, I would have laughed off the notion of a conflict, military coup or even a civil war in the US.  But Trump and Trumpism have convinved me the US is not any more immune to these things than the next country.  It's easy to forget America is a country that was founded on violence.
Title: Re: Americans are getting tired of Cops
Post by: KenyanPlato on June 02, 2020, 05:49:42 PM
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on the right is an iconic picture. White women have come out in droves to fight this injustice. it is very encouraging to see that the rank and file of White people are committed to the struggle.
Title: Re: Americans are getting tired of Cops
Post by: RV Pundit on June 02, 2020, 05:53:42 PM
Nairobi joined in
https://www.nation.co.ke/dailynation/news/protesters-rally-outside-us-embassy-in-nairobi-over-george-floyd-s-death--487322
Title: Re: Americans are getting tired of Cops
Post by: KenyanPlato on June 02, 2020, 05:55:18 PM
Nairobi joined in
https://www.nation.co.ke/dailynation/news/protesters-rally-outside-us-embassy-in-nairobi-over-george-floyd-s-death--487322

Great this is very good. Very touching
Title: Re: Americans are getting tired of Cops
Post by: RV Pundit on June 02, 2020, 06:24:21 PM
Tackles.
Title: Re: Americans are getting tired of Cops
Post by: KenyanPlato on June 02, 2020, 06:37:41 PM
Tackles.

I knew Carter would be smoked out. He has a very colonialstic, racist and patronizing attitude towards Kenyans

I used to not like Alai but I have to say he is one smart and maverick guy. Seems to be an above average self taught guy.
Title: Re: Americans are getting tired of Cops
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on June 02, 2020, 07:46:15 PM
Nairobi joined in
https://www.nation.co.ke/dailynation/news/protesters-rally-outside-us-embassy-in-nairobi-over-george-floyd-s-death--487322 (https://www.nation.co.ke/dailynation/news/protesters-rally-outside-us-embassy-in-nairobi-over-george-floyd-s-death--487322)

The other murders are usually quick.  Two bullets to the center of mass.  Pop pop.  Someone can crane their neck backwards and even argue it was in the heat of the moment.  This one was different.  Like a lion in the Serengeti squeezing the life force out of a zebra.  The officer was spoiled for choices.  But he chose to snuff this guy's life out to end his workday.

That crossed the line that even a few racists had trouble vouching for initially.
Title: Re: Americans are getting tired of Cops
Post by: KenyanPlato on June 02, 2020, 11:55:28 PM
Just seen a picture of some of the property damage. This is a really evolving situation and a bad one. It seems like this will change the course of history one way or the other or may be the beginning a long civil strife.

Title: Re: Americans are getting tired of Cops
Post by: Garliv on June 03, 2020, 10:22:58 PM
Even Mighty Rome didn't fall cause of one incident. It is accumulation of issues. US is slowly but surely reaching boiling point. Issues been accumulating. And Trump is just godsend to accelerate that process. And Dems too. Especially Dems have adopted third world kind of politics (Raila kind of politics) that they cannot accept defeat and have to blame everyone apart from themselves; they Spend years and dollars and set national narrative of hate and victimhood that has polarized more and more.. JUST PERFECT.
ANOTHER 4 YEARS OF TRUMP AND DEM DELUSIONALS and US is done...

NB: I honestly believe US has loads of social/economic/political garbage to sort out and protests of police murder of George Floyd  is just a trigger.

Plato & Garliv - the US is still a very successful enterprise despite the menopause glitches.. Go slow om the sour grapes.
Title: Re: Americans are getting tired of Cops
Post by: KenyanPlato on June 05, 2020, 02:21:12 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1308&v=F5JdPk1cO8U&feature=emb_title
Title: Re: Americans are getting tired of Cops
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on June 07, 2020, 12:53:22 AM

Houdini of the hoods.

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