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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: RV Pundit on May 19, 2020, 09:06:44 PM

Title: Economic mess - just after 2 months of lockdown
Post by: RV Pundit on May 19, 2020, 09:06:44 PM
Treasury fails to send money to universities.

https://www.nation.co.ke/news/education/KU-declares-pay-cut-lecturers/2643604-5556816-u0mjoo/index.html?fbclid=IwAR2vDzx7p622uQs6CUbhbxb6WBiYh-GE2ldfuBUuFTqPCM1FoEjj1blgvAY
Title: Re: Economic mess - just after 2 months of lockdown
Post by: patel on May 19, 2020, 09:39:52 PM
All this doom and gloom reporting will soon dissipate once curfew and lockdown is lifted. Uhuru has a golden chance to renegotiate old debt and raise debt ceiling. Uhuru move to bring all national leaders on board will help him to work out a marshal plan. The best days are ahead of us.
Title: Re: Economic mess - just after 2 months of lockdown
Post by: RV Pundit on May 20, 2020, 07:57:27 AM
Tusky also going down.
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/corporate/companies/Tuskys-delays-supplier--rent-payments-on-cash-flow-hitch/4003102-5557786-ga9edj/index.html
Title: Re: Economic mess - just after 2 months of lockdown
Post by: vooke on May 21, 2020, 04:37:17 AM
Tusky also going down.
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/corporate/companies/Tuskys-delays-supplier--rent-payments-on-cash-flow-hitch/4003102-5557786-ga9edj/index.html


I have never understood how a cash sales only business gets creditors. They must be diverting cash. Yes, the sales are not instant but they wait for weeks or months after selling your stock on cash to pay you.  Tuskys is on its deathbed.
Title: Re: Economic mess - just after 2 months of lockdown
Post by: RV Pundit on May 21, 2020, 06:48:59 AM
But vooke they have dead stock..so it's no cash until everything is sold
Title: Re: Economic mess - just after 2 months of lockdown
Post by: Nefertiti on May 21, 2020, 08:56:01 AM
Raila already onto the money

Raila on post Covid recovery
Title: Re: Economic mess - just after 2 months of lockdown
Post by: vooke on May 21, 2020, 10:53:01 AM
But vooke they have dead stock..so it's no cash until everything is sold

I know consumer spending has somewhat dipped so stock is slow moving, but this is more than that; even where stock is all sold suppliers have to wait. Food rarely expires in supermarkets. Stuff like fresh food and other fast moving goods are sold within days.

I think Rona is an excuse.

I visited Carrefour TRM a few days ago and I noticed an instance amount of cheap stock; toilet rolls. We are long past toilet roll panic buying so I can’t understand why they would stock so many shelves with toilet rolls.

It could be they are working hard to hide empty shelves
Title: Re: Economic mess - just after 2 months of lockdown
Post by: RV Pundit on May 21, 2020, 11:29:33 AM
I think they play margin game - there are things that probably bring very little profit - and when the economy is in trouble - then you're left selling those kinds of useless things. Everyone is basically worried about the future and they are not spending like they normally would.

The cascading effect of CORONA is huge.  We have basically lost 3 months - and we are uncertain of the future. It will be real tears, jobless, poverty and many businesses will go bankrupt. The banks are also not willing to lend in an environment of uncertainty - they rather park their cash in gov.

Uhuru has a big problem in his hand.

The modern economy is like a house of cards - everything has to work together - or the domino effect kicks in.

I know consumer spending has somewhat dipped so stock is slow moving, but this is more than that; even where stock is all sold suppliers have to wait. Food rarely expires in supermarkets. Stuff like fresh food and other fast moving goods are sold within days.

I think Rona is an excuse.

I visited Carrefour TRM a few days ago and I noticed an instance amount of cheap stock; toilet rolls. We are long past toilet roll panic buying so I can’t understand why they would stock so many shelves with toilet rolls.

It could be they are working hard to hide empty shelves
Title: Re: Economic mess - just after 2 months of lockdown
Post by: Dear Mami on May 21, 2020, 04:54:37 PM
Mukhisa Kituyi said it in March. The next 2 years will see REAL suffering. Not jokes. Not 'a setback,' it will be terrible. those of you who are atheist will soon be praying for divine intervention. Corona is like a punishment right out of a religious text  :o

https://www.oxfam.org/en/press-releases/half-billion-people-could-be-pushed-poverty-coronavirus-warns-oxfam

500 billion people in poor countries who are not poor now are expected to join that class in the coming year or two. God help us.

All this doom and gloom reporting will soon dissipate once curfew and lockdown is lifted. Uhuru has a golden chance to renegotiate old debt and raise debt ceiling. Uhuru move to bring all national leaders on board will help him to work out a marshal plan. The best days are ahead of us.

China should be pressured to reset debt terms immediately. If our govt has that room, there may be a few things we can do to prevent extreme suffering and get the economy out of the path of disaster charted in Jubilee's first term stupid borrowing and feasting.
Title: Re: Economic mess - just after 2 months of lockdown
Post by: Dear Mami on May 21, 2020, 06:32:06 PM
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500 billion people in poor countries who are not poor now are expected to join that class in the coming year or two. God help us.
Oops! Meant 500 million (obvi).