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When did the ground shift? The leadership can be intimidated but can you intimidated the ground. Gideon Moi has about the same votes as Raila has in Kalenjin. 2%, If Ruto was popular yesterday in certain circles- I don't see how hounding his allies has made him unpopular.
The correct English is POWERSHIFT. The ground we need at least some opinion poll.
Uhuru has shifted gears in the power trans in the hope that he can now navigate the slippery ground.
The verdict is still out there....at least in Mt Kenya.
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i think it’s the present participle.... the ground is shifting right now.
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When both Ruto and Uhuru were indicted by ICC in 2010 - and had to step down - they lost power as cabinet ministers - but they won the ground. It all depend on Mt Kenya. Uhuru has to explain the beef with Ruto and explain the direction. Ruto will play the victim card. If Uhuru doesn't convince the leaders but uses the force - those leaders cannot subsequently go to the ground and use forces. They are people like me - who are going into siasa - and we will be giving the ground what they want to hear. Nobody is intimidating "US". So if you're governor - and you're selling hostile position - like many governors are - and your competitor is with the people - then uko an shida. Waiguru is out. Nakuru governor is also out.
i think it’s the present participle.... the ground is shifting right now.
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Only reason Ruto had some ground is cause Uhuru let him. Especially in Jubilee 1.0 Uhuru had no choice but to turn the blind eye to Ruto mlolongo and such mischief. Complete with “Ndugu yangu” sleight of hand. People like decisiveness and your boy won’t survive this. He is a Kalenjin alien and has no big GEMA with him. As the omena turncoats abandon him to save their careers he will be left high and dry. Worse than Raila in Kalenjin 2012.
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Not easy. For starters Uhuru has to explain many things including the fate of 1M gema diaspora - from Kitale to Nakuru - and that is not easy conversation. It not mlolongo mps - senators, governors and name - them - are struggling on the ground. The ground is hostile.So hostile Uhuru could only get 8 Jubilee senators - and he is PORK :) - And that probably took a lot of NIS hardwork.
It been 2.5yrs since Uhuru started this cold war - and he has no traction. Now he is making for the final push - and if it fails - he will not only depend on NASA but he will have zero ground work as he becomes lame duck.
The guy is so desperate he got chopper for Isaac Ruto - who has two Mps - both not keen to work with him :)
Only reason Ruto had some ground is cause Uhuru let him. Especially in Jubilee 1.0 Uhuru had no choice but to turn the blind eye to Ruto mlolongo and such mischief. Complete with “Ndugu yangu” sleight of hand. People like decisiveness and your boy won’t survive this. He is a Kalenjin alien and has no big GEMA with him. As the omena turncoats abandon him to save their careers he will be left high and dry. Worse than Raila in Kalenjin 2012.
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If Ruto is unable to save Murkomen, kihika Kimani ndota and Millicent Omanga then my fren is done. Invisible Ruto is no more. Funny some legislators thought Ruto was co president...
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I am glad I also got booted as chief rigger ;) Uhuru can use brute force - but he cannot force people to love him. Anyway right now Raila ndio kusema. So be happy. Ruto gave up on 50-50 when he folder Jubilee and accepted Uhuru to be his leader.
If Ruto is unable to save Murkomen, kihika Kimani ndota and Millicent Omanga then my fren is done. Invisible Ruto is no more. Funny some legislators thought Ruto was co president...
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Ruto gave up 50 - 50 with an eye on 100 % to secure his bet he took parliament and Senate but forgot you need the police and military to protect your gains. Fell in the trap of 'president in waiting' with a whole battalion on nyakinyuas labeled inua mama or inua marinda. Nobody love any politician it all boils down to what a politician can do for you and with over trillion shilling loans lined up for Uhuru believe me he will have enough money to doll out...finishing stalled projects etc etc...then pipo will be like kweli URP pipo were sabotaging muthamaki...
I am glad I also got booted as chief rigger ;) Uhuru can use brute force - but he cannot force people to love him. Anyway right now Raila ndio kusema. So be happy. Ruto gave up on 50-50 when he folder Jubilee and accepted Uhuru to be his leader.
If Ruto is unable to save Murkomen, kihika Kimani ndota and Millicent Omanga then my fren is done. Invisible Ruto is no more. Funny some legislators thought Ruto was co president...
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COVID-19 has killed any chance we will see development.
Ruto gave up 50 - 50 with an eye on 100 % to secure his bet he took parliament and Senate but forgot you need the police and military to protect your gains. Fell in the trap of 'president in waiting' with a whole battalion on nyakinyuas labeled inua mama or inua marinda. Nobody love any politician it all boils down to what a politician can do for you and with over trillion shilling loans lined up for Uhuru believe me he will have enough money to doll out...finishing stalled projects etc etc...then pipo will be like kweli URP pipo were sabotaging muthamaki...
I am glad I also got booted as chief rigger ;) Uhuru can use brute force - but he cannot force people to love him. Anyway right now Raila ndio kusema. So be happy. Ruto gave up on 50-50 when he folder Jubilee and accepted Uhuru to be his leader.
If Ruto is unable to save Murkomen, kihika Kimani ndota and Millicent Omanga then my fren is done. Invisible Ruto is no more. Funny some legislators thought Ruto was co president...
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If Ruto is unable to save Murkomen, kihika Kimani ndota and Millicent Omanga then my fren is done. Invisible Ruto is no more. Funny some legislators thought Ruto was co president...
Already people are lying low like envelopes... on the first shot. No one wants to be another Waititu. Pundit needs to smell the coffee.
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GEMA have lived in RV since the 60s and have never voted for Kalenjin. They won’t start now. You can’t tame a barbarian by feeding him your children.
Uhuru was shadow-boxing hoping Ruto would see sense. The man continued chest-thumping- claiming he has the ground, the party and Parliament. Now ati he has PEV 2 card - which is more hot air because it contradictory to also court GEMA. He can kill Kikuyu or even Gusii - AFTER THE FACT :) - he will still go home if not to jail.
Not easy. For starters Uhuru has to explain many things including the fate of 1M gema diaspora - from Kitale to Nakuru - and that is not easy conversation. It not mlolongo mps - senators, governors and name - them - are struggling on the ground. The ground is hostile.So hostile Uhuru could only get 8 Jubilee senators - and he is PORK :) - And that probably took a lot of NIS hardwork.
It been 2.5yrs since Uhuru started this cold war - and he has no traction. Now he is making for the final push - and if it fails - he will not only depend on NASA but he will have zero ground work as he becomes lame duck.
The guy is so desperate he got chopper for Isaac Ruto - who has two Mps - both not keen to work with him :)
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FOR MT. KENYA: Just like Uhuru has been confused, frustrated and simply angry that Mt. Kenya had shifted to Ruto, so it is the same. He tried shouting and insults, then intimidation, then jonny come lately offers on coffee/tea/miraa prices but it didn't cut. Nothing has shifted. I am on the ground and the attitude is that "wacha wafanye venye wanataka na sisi time yetu inakuja.." Meaning let Uhuru go on rampage like a madman and do what he feels like, but the ground is not with him. Even matatu touts say "Uhuru ako na utoto mingi sana.. ni bangi..."
Ask Njuri Ncheke on Meru feelings. Ask Plato on his Limuru constituents.
Even if Ruto is not around, people are done with Uhuru. No one can stomach another Uhuru term. Ata heri Raila reigns but Uhuru time is over and he didn't impress. We just have to survive this Uhuru's psychotic episode.
i think it’s the present participle.... the ground is shifting right now.
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Violence may occur but it will be provoked by the dark forces so as to "remove the obstacle via ICC..." Or it could just be as a result of spontaneous reaction. When things start going downhill, sometimes they take their own logic and momentum. But am serious; the first scenario of dark forces is very much likely.
Besides plan is to have GNU soonest. I hear MaDvD is demanding something but he's being offered CS Treasury. And RAO to be DP by August (this being the time they think they will have gotten rid of WSR as DP if he doesn't resign.) Weeks ago Uhuru demanded he resigns but DP kept silence. Then there is a court ruling on Weston land issue on 29th May which would most likely order demolition of the hotel "as being on public land..) Things will get hot and hot so chances of some Ruto supporters attacking other is not farfetched.
We need a way to get rid of Uhuru; he's danger to national security and wellbeing. UHURU IS CLEARLY THE MADMAN HERE
GEMA have lived in RV since the 60s and have never voted for Kalenjin. They won’t start now. You can’t tame a barbarian by feeding him your children.
Uhuru was shadow-boxing hoping Ruto would see sense. The man continued chest-thumping- claiming he has the ground, the party and Parliament. Now ati he has PEV 2 card - which is more hot air because it contradictory to also court GEMA. He can kill Kikuyu or even Gusii - AFTER THE FACT :) - he will still go home if not to jail.
Not easy. For starters Uhuru has to explain many things including the fate of 1M gema diaspora - from Kitale to Nakuru - and that is not easy conversation. It not mlolongo mps - senators, governors and name - them - are struggling on the ground. The ground is hostile.So hostile Uhuru could only get 8 Jubilee senators - and he is PORK :) - And that probably took a lot of NIS hardwork.
It been 2.5yrs since Uhuru started this cold war - and he has no traction. Now he is making for the final push - and if it fails - he will not only depend on NASA but he will have zero ground work as he becomes lame duck.
The guy is so desperate he got chopper for Isaac Ruto - who has two Mps - both not keen to work with him :)
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Would you be willing to live in Eldoret or Nandi or Nakuru or Kericho or Baringo yourself. Talk is cheap. We are talking people lifes and ifetime investment. Uhuru is playing with other people lives and investment. When he promised Ruto 10-10 he knew there would be consequences.
GEMA have lived in RV since the 60s and have never voted for Kalenjin. They won’t start now. You can’t tame a barbarian by feeding him your children.
Uhuru was shadow-boxing hoping Ruto would see sense. The man continued chest-thumping- claiming he has the ground, the party and Parliament. Now ati he has PEV 2 card - which is more hot air because it contradictory to also court GEMA. He can kill Kikuyu or even Gusii - AFTER THE FACT :) - he will still go home if not to jail.
Not easy. For starters Uhuru has to explain many things including the fate of 1M gema diaspora - from Kitale to Nakuru - and that is not easy conversation. It not mlolongo mps - senators, governors and name - them - are struggling on the ground. The ground is hostile.So hostile Uhuru could only get 8 Jubilee senators - and he is PORK :) - And that probably took a lot of NIS hardwork.
It been 2.5yrs since Uhuru started this cold war - and he has no traction. Now he is making for the final push - and if it fails - he will not only depend on NASA but he will have zero ground work as he becomes lame duck.
The guy is so desperate he got chopper for Isaac Ruto - who has two Mps - both not keen to work with him :)
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Ruto will not resign. That position is too powerful because if anything happens to Uhuru - you become PORK. It's like Deputy Governor - even if you have no job - you never know. So I don't see Ruto resigning. As for impeachment succeeding tough luck. Getting 2/3 of senate and parliament is no mean feat.
Violence may occur but it will be provoked by the dark forces so as to "remove the obstacle via ICC..." Or it could just be as a result of spontaneous reaction. When things start going downhill, sometimes they take their own logic and momentum. But am serious; the first scenario of dark forces is very much likely.
Besides plan is to have GNU soonest. I hear MaDvD is demanding something but he's being offered CS Treasury. And RAO to be DP by August (this being the time they think they will have gotten rid of WSR as DP if he doesn't resign.) Weeks ago Uhuru demanded he resigns but DP kept silence. Then there is a court ruling on Weston land issue on 29th May which would most likely order demolition of the hotel "as being on public land..) Things will get hot and hot so chances of some Ruto supporters attacking other is not farfetched.
We need a way to get rid of Uhuru; he's danger to national security and wellbeing. UHURU IS CLEARLY THE MADMAN HERE
GEMA have lived in RV since the 60s and have never voted for Kalenjin. They won’t start now. You can’t tame a barbarian by feeding him your children.
Uhuru was shadow-boxing hoping Ruto would see sense. The man continued chest-thumping- claiming he has the ground, the party and Parliament. Now ati he has PEV 2 card - which is more hot air because it contradictory to also court GEMA. He can kill Kikuyu or even Gusii - AFTER THE FACT :) - he will still go home if not to jail.
Not easy. For starters Uhuru has to explain many things including the fate of 1M gema diaspora - from Kitale to Nakuru - and that is not easy conversation. It not mlolongo mps - senators, governors and name - them - are struggling on the ground. The ground is hostile.So hostile Uhuru could only get 8 Jubilee senators - and he is PORK :) - And that probably took a lot of NIS hardwork.
It been 2.5yrs since Uhuru started this cold war - and he has no traction. Now he is making for the final push - and if it fails - he will not only depend on NASA but he will have zero ground work as he becomes lame duck.
The guy is so desperate he got chopper for Isaac Ruto - who has two Mps - both not keen to work with him :)
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Tangatanga runs on lies- especially fake stories in the gutter press. La Mada fiasco. Lots of nonsense about Uhuru being heckled in Ol Kalou. Chiefs vetting people in Uhuru rallies. Uhuru making donations to UK. Pundit even posts plain lies here on Nipate about Raila and ODM demands on Uhuru. 8) - desperate to create a wedge. Haha all this to malign a man who is allegedly so unpopular.
GEMA love Ruto.... :) ohh they hate Kenyatta. Now Uhuru has stopped playing fair - called Ruto’s bluff - start war and see where the hoi polloi file. Or well, get ready to see your hero beg for mercy.
So Garliv don’t worry many Kenyans on the ground are on my speed-dial too. Many of them will not vote for Ruto no matter what MOU was signed - even with genocide threats. Worse - most non-GEMA loathe Ruto much more than Uhuru - while they love Raila.
Raila was already ahead and now will clean the floor with Ruto.
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I get how Uhuru not sucking up to Ruto can provoke some barbarians to commit genocide in the valley. The issue is their barbarism not Uhuru’s actions. They been tearing foetuses out of wombs long before Uhuru came around.
Funny one minute Uhuru is dictatorial - the next PEV is fair game. It reminds me of Kibra where Ruto employs pure ukora but whines loudly when he is outfoxed.
Vote for Ruto or else... is not just mad but bizarre logic. If you feed a hyena your goat today - he will still raid the pen tomorrow. He is WILD - cowardice won’t save you.
Violence may occur but it will be provoked by the dark forces so as to "remove the obstacle via ICC..." Or it could just be as a result of spontaneous reaction. When things start going downhill, sometimes they take their own logic and momentum. But am serious; the first scenario of dark forces is very much likely.
Besides plan is to have GNU soonest. I hear MaDvD is demanding something but he's being offered CS Treasury. And RAO to be DP by August (this being the time they think they will have gotten rid of WSR as DP if he doesn't resign.) Weeks ago Uhuru demanded he resigns but DP kept silence. Then there is a court ruling on Weston land issue on 29th May which would most likely order demolition of the hotel "as being on public land..) Things will get hot and hot so chances of some Ruto supporters attacking other is not farfetched.
We need a way to get rid of Uhuru; he's danger to national security and wellbeing. UHURU IS CLEARLY THE MADMAN HERE
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I am not saying people will not die or lose property. I am saying Ruto will get dog-beating by Raila with or without PEV 2.
Would you be willing to live in Eldoret or Nandi or Nakuru or Kericho or Baringo yourself. Talk is cheap. We are talking people lifes and ifetime investment. Uhuru is playing with other people lives and investment. When he promised Ruto 10-10 he knew there would be consequences.
GEMA have lived in RV since the 60s and have never voted for Kalenjin. They won’t start now. You can’t tame a barbarian by feeding him your children.
Uhuru was shadow-boxing hoping Ruto would see sense. The man continued chest-thumping- claiming he has the ground, the party and Parliament. Now ati he has PEV 2 card - which is more hot air because it contradictory to also court GEMA. He can kill Kikuyu or even Gusii - AFTER THE FACT :) - he will still go home if not to jail.
Not easy. For starters Uhuru has to explain many things including the fate of 1M gema diaspora - from Kitale to Nakuru - and that is not easy conversation. It not mlolongo mps - senators, governors and name - them - are struggling on the ground. The ground is hostile.So hostile Uhuru could only get 8 Jubilee senators - and he is PORK :) - And that probably took a lot of NIS hardwork.
It been 2.5yrs since Uhuru started this cold war - and he has no traction. Now he is making for the final push - and if it fails - he will not only depend on NASA but he will have zero ground work as he becomes lame duck.
The guy is so desperate he got chopper for Isaac Ruto - who has two Mps - both not keen to work with him :)
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Like Bitsmak told you...there are 2 camps here. Those who believe Kenyan elections are won and those like us who knows it's a big sham. The insiders with western help calls the shots.
FOR MT. KENYA: Just like Uhuru has been confused, frustrated and simply angry that Mt. Kenya had shifted to Ruto, so it is the same. He tried shouting and insults, then intimidation, then jonny come lately offers on coffee/tea/miraa prices but it didn't cut. Nothing has shifted. I am on the ground and the attitude is that "wacha wafanye venye wanataka na sisi time yetu inakuja.." Meaning let Uhuru go on rampage like a madman and do what he feels like, but the ground is not with him. Even matatu touts say "Uhuru ako na utoto mingi sana.. ni bangi..."
Ask Njuri Ncheke on Meru feelings. Ask Plato on his Limuru constituents.
Even if Ruto is not around, people are done with Uhuru. No one can stomach another Uhuru term. Ata heri Raila reigns but Uhuru time is over and he didn't impress. We just have to survive this Uhuru's psychotic episode.
i think it’s the present participle.... the ground is shifting right now.
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All doors to Ruto presidency in 2022 has been closed including the door where Ouru dies. Ruto will not be president even if Ouru were to drop dead tomorrow. War games have been played on a simulator and every move that Ruto can make has been taken into consideration and a counter move developed. Ruto's best move is to do what Isaac Ruto did, kiss ass, like his life depended on it, and survive to fight another day. Start with Ouru's ass, apologise to Gidi and Raila and then declare is total loyalty. And thenm maybe then, can he survive to run in 2027, God willing.
Ruto will not resign. That position is too powerful because if anything happens to Uhuru - you become PORK. It's like Deputy Governor - even if you have no job - you never know. So I don't see Ruto resigning. As for impeachment succeeding tough luck. Getting 2/3 of senate and parliament is no mean feat.
Violence may occur but it will be provoked by the dark forces so as to "remove the obstacle via ICC..." Or it could just be as a result of spontaneous reaction. When things start going downhill, sometimes they take their own logic and momentum. But am serious; the first scenario of dark forces is very much likely.
Besides plan is to have GNU soonest. I hear MaDvD is demanding something but he's being offered CS Treasury. And RAO to be DP by August (this being the time they think they will have gotten rid of WSR as DP if he doesn't resign.) Weeks ago Uhuru demanded he resigns but DP kept silence. Then there is a court ruling on Weston land issue on 29th May which would most likely order demolition of the hotel "as being on public land..) Things will get hot and hot so chances of some Ruto supporters attacking other is not farfetched.
We need a way to get rid of Uhuru; he's danger to national security and wellbeing. UHURU IS CLEARLY THE MADMAN HERE
GEMA have lived in RV since the 60s and have never voted for Kalenjin. They won’t start now. You can’t tame a barbarian by feeding him your children.
Uhuru was shadow-boxing hoping Ruto would see sense. The man continued chest-thumping- claiming he has the ground, the party and Parliament. Now ati he has PEV 2 card - which is more hot air because it contradictory to also court GEMA. He can kill Kikuyu or even Gusii - AFTER THE FACT :) - he will still go home if not to jail.
Not easy. For starters Uhuru has to explain many things including the fate of 1M gema diaspora - from Kitale to Nakuru - and that is not easy conversation. It not mlolongo mps - senators, governors and name - them - are struggling on the ground. The ground is hostile.So hostile Uhuru could only get 8 Jubilee senators - and he is PORK :) - And that probably took a lot of NIS hardwork.
It been 2.5yrs since Uhuru started this cold war - and he has no traction. Now he is making for the final push - and if it fails - he will not only depend on NASA but he will have zero ground work as he becomes lame duck.
The guy is so desperate he got chopper for Isaac Ruto - who has two Mps - both not keen to work with him :)
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Mount Kenya is Right behind WSR including Gatundu! for various reasons. To start with, there has been no explanation about what changed in regard to keeping the promise of supporting Ruto...in fact they believe in being honor bound...there is an obligation to support Ruto. Second, if Murathe is Uhuru's mouth piece, they are regarding his message with the contempt it deserves...they are calling him another tenderprenuer together with Wanjigi. And lastly and you will hear this message louder in the coming days...they still hold Raila responsible to PEV and taking Uhuru to ICC, and there are pissed as hell for Uhuru kuree uguruki an ngoma into MK domain...they believe it is shetani na bangi na njohi...they cannot make sense out of this mess. Uhuru cannot make a case to MK voters that he is trying to bring unity by isolating his trusted deputy...he cannot lay Ruto on the alter to redeem Raila's failed dream. Nyeri and Laikipia in particular won't be forced to accept Uhuru's plan without engaging him with serious questions about what really changed.
When both Ruto and Uhuru were indicted by ICC in 2010 - and had to step down - they lost power as cabinet ministers - but they won the ground. It all depend on Mt Kenya. Uhuru has to explain the beef with Ruto and explain the direction. Ruto will play the victim card. If Uhuru doesn't convince the leaders but uses the force - those leaders cannot subsequently go to the ground and use forces. They are people like me - who are going into siasa - and we will be giving the ground what they want to hear. Nobody is intimidating "US". So if you're governor - and you're selling hostile position - like many governors are - and your competitor is with the people - then uko an shida. Waiguru is out. Nakuru governor is also out.
i think it’s the present participle.... the ground is shifting right now.
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Like Bitsmak told you...there are 2 camps here. Those who believe Kenyan elections are won and those like us who knows it's a big sham. The insiders with western help calls the shots.
FOR MT. KENYA: Just like Uhuru has been confused, frustrated and simply angry that Mt. Kenya had shifted to Ruto, so it is the same. He tried shouting and insults, then intimidation, then jonny come lately offers on coffee/tea/miraa prices but it didn't cut. Nothing has shifted. I am on the ground and the attitude is that "wacha wafanye venye wanataka na sisi time yetu inakuja.." Meaning let Uhuru go on rampage like a madman and do what he feels like, but the ground is not with him. Even matatu touts say "Uhuru ako na utoto mingi sana.. ni bangi..."
Ask Njuri Ncheke on Meru feelings. Ask Plato on his Limuru constituents.
Even if Ruto is not around, people are done with Uhuru. No one can stomach another Uhuru term. Ata heri Raila reigns but Uhuru time is over and he didn't impress. We just have to survive this Uhuru's psychotic episode.
i think it’s the present participle.... the ground is shifting right now.
Yep. Me too. I think you can also subscribe to both theories, and still arrive at the conclusion that the hustler is outside looking in, with no cards left to play.
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FOR MT. KENYA: Just like Uhuru has been confused, frustrated and simply angry that Mt. Kenya had shifted to Ruto, so it is the same. He tried shouting and insults, then intimidation, then jonny come lately offers on coffee/tea/miraa prices but it didn't cut. Nothing has shifted. I am on the ground and the attitude is that "wacha wafanye venye wanataka na sisi time yetu inakuja.." Meaning let Uhuru go on rampage like a madman and do what he feels like, but the ground is not with him. Even matatu touts say "Uhuru ako na utoto mingi sana.. ni bangi..."
Ask Njuri Ncheke on Meru feelings. Ask Plato on his Limuru constituents.
Even if Ruto is not around, people are done with Uhuru. No one can stomach another Uhuru term. Ata heri Raila reigns but Uhuru time is over and he didn't impress. We just have to survive this
I agree, part of Uhuru bitterness is Ruto has a mammoth grassroots following in Mt. Kenya and doesn't require him for endorsement. Ruto did his homework very well, what if he didn't penetrate mt. Kenya and then Uhuru starts these manenos?? he would be at a great disadvantage,he would just have his Kalenjin base, at least Ruto has a fighting chance now doesn't matter what Urogi does. Uhuru wants us to be like babies or nyanza robots that can be tuned wherever and whenever he feels like, impossible and this is driving him crazy he is scratching his balls and ass worse than when maraga annulled the elections. Uhuru wont hesitate to declare Kenya a monarchy with Kenyattas as royal family and him as king, he expected us to sing this to him but instead we are beating drums of war
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Kichwa, I do not doubt your sincerity. I have heard some very daring moves to ensure Ruto is out of power and completely neutered. Unfortunately with Madman Uhuru as President and therefore with government machinery/power such moves are seriously on the table. Am afraid they seriously can do anything. Some in Ruto camp were not taking this thing seriously enough but now it's self evident. We are being led by madmen. It's like NOW Uhuru has realized he can be dictatorial and get away with it.
For one, I know Orengo leads some legal team to come up with AN EXPEDITED ROADMAP TO AMENDING THE CONSTITUTION. In other words, they get shortcuts to amend katiba. Then have already neutered Supreme Court issue an approving Opinion and then they are good to go. Such amendments is of course to get rid of a DP; applying it retrospectively is not a problem so long as Supreme Court is onboard. There are other options being considered so I believe you when you talk of "war games on a simulator...."
Of course Senate Speaker can even create a 2/3 majority and it passes. Muturi will even have 2/3 majority and resolutions typed and ready before even convening National Assembly; All what Uhuru has to do is ask Muturi to do it!
Then Without a doubt threats are being issued "openly" and right now TangaTanga Team (especially in Mt. Kenya) has to ride Uhuru/Raila madness. And pray it doesn't get to a point where people get fed up.
Good thing Ruto has advised his troops to just not argue. And they should just accept what's coming and let Uhuru be.
All doors to Ruto presidency in 2022 has been closed including the door where Ouru dies. Ruto will not be president even if Ouru were to drop dead tomorrow. War games have been played on a simulator and every move that Ruto can make has been taken into consideration and a counter move developed. Ruto's best move is to do what Isaac Ruto did, kiss ass, like his life depended on it, and survive to fight another day. Start with Ouru's ass, apologise to Gidi and Raila and then declare is total loyalty. And thenm maybe then, can he survive to run in 2027, God willing.
Ruto will not resign. That position is too powerful because if anything happens to Uhuru - you become PORK. It's like Deputy Governor - even if you have no job - you never know. So I don't see Ruto resigning. As for impeachment succeeding tough luck. Getting 2/3 of senate and parliament is no mean feat.
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Yes, I think they emboldened that with Raila on board, they can literally do anything, but they are courting a rebellion they cannot stop. Once Kalenjin figured out the game is rigged - they won't stomach it like Luo - they will go for secession or armed struggle - and Uhuru will be asking for UN to come to mediate. They keep testing the depth of water - now with one leg- and now about to dive in - and soon they will discover it's very deep - and they won't be turning back. Kalenjin dont have plan B where Ruto doesn't become PORK in 2022.
Uhuru has to be careful - because he might be headed right back in ICC with Ruto - and they won't be evidence on Ruto - because Ruto doesn't have to do anything - he 98% of Kalenjin.
Kichwa, I do not doubt your sincerity. I have heard some very daring moves to ensure Ruto is out of power and completely neutered. Unfortunately with Madman Uhuru as President and therefore with government machinery/power such moves are seriously on the table. Am afraid they seriously can do anything. Some in Ruto camp were not taking this thing seriously enough but now it's self evident. We are being led by madmen. It's like NOW Uhuru has realized he can be dictatorial and get away with it.
For one, I know Orengo leads some legal team to come up with AN EXPEDITED ROADMAP TO AMENDING THE CONSTITUTION. In other words, they get shortcuts to amend katiba. Then have already neutered Supreme Court issue an approving Opinion and then they are good to go. Such amendments is of course to get rid of a DP; applying it retrospectively is not a problem so long as Supreme Court is onboard. There are other options being considered so I believe you when you talk of "war games on a simulator...."
Of course Senate Speaker can even create a 2/3 majority and it passes. Muturi will even have 2/3 majority and resolutions typed and ready before even convening National Assembly; All what Uhuru has to do is ask Muturi to do it!
Then Without a doubt threats are being issued "openly" and right now TangaTanga Team (especially in Mt. Kenya) has to ride Uhuru/Raila madness. And pray it doesn't get to a point where people get fed up.
Good thing Ruto has advised his troops to just not argue. And they should just accept what's coming and let Uhuru be.
All doors to Ruto presidency in 2022 has been closed including the door where Ouru dies. Ruto will not be president even if Ouru were to drop dead tomorrow. War games have been played on a simulator and every move that Ruto can make has been taken into consideration and a counter move developed. Ruto's best move is to do what Isaac Ruto did, kiss ass, like his life depended on it, and survive to fight another day. Start with Ouru's ass, apologise to Gidi and Raila and then declare is total loyalty. And thenm maybe then, can he survive to run in 2027, God willing.
Ruto will not resign. That position is too powerful because if anything happens to Uhuru - you become PORK. It's like Deputy Governor - even if you have no job - you never know. So I don't see Ruto resigning. As for impeachment succeeding tough luck. Getting 2/3 of senate and parliament is no mean feat.
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All the hue and cry from Garliv and Pundit- is smelling dog-beating early and creating a narrative. Kihika and Murkomen have high court appointment and will prove there was no quorum if true. Of course there is nothing magical about Ruto Kalenjin warriors that would immunize Ruto from mischief. Kalenjin barbarism is centuries old and it plain stupid to feed the hyena your goat. Simply get your rungu and spear ready to face the animal.
Raila will clean the floor with Ruto regardless of PEV 2 and secession. :) He can’t beat Raila with Uhuru backing despite all the lies about Ruto stranglehold in GEMA. That the Kalenjin alien somehow represent Mt Kenya interest... That hot air and blinkers that are melting away as we watch. Spin works until it doesn’t.
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Laughable. The narrative of invincible, thoroughbred Warrior has been shattered. I was expecting Ruto to fight back and hit back twice as hard and make the country ungovernable only for him to show up waving white flag seeking sympathy, throwing his lieutenants under the bus. I was shocked....is this the same Ruto who would make Millicent Omanga kengen director with one phone call? Now I doubt they can pick up his calls....
Yes, I think they emboldened that with Raila on board, they can literally do anything, but they are courting a rebellion they cannot stop. Once Kalenjin figured out the game is rigged - they won't stomach it like Luo - they will go for secession or armed struggle - and Uhuru will be asking for UN to come to mediate. They keep testing the depth of water - now with one leg- and now about to dive in - and soon they will discover it's very deep - and they won't be turning back. Kalenjin dont have plan B where Ruto doesn't become PORK in 2022.
Uhuru has to be careful - because he might be headed right back in ICC with Ruto - and they won't be evidence on Ruto - because Ruto doesn't have to do anything - he 98% of Kalenjin.
Kichwa, I do not doubt your sincerity. I have heard some very daring moves to ensure Ruto is out of power and completely neutered. Unfortunately with Madman Uhuru as President and therefore with government machinery/power such moves are seriously on the table. Am afraid they seriously can do anything. Some in Ruto camp were not taking this thing seriously enough but now it's self evident. We are being led by madmen. It's like NOW Uhuru has realized he can be dictatorial and get away with it.
For one, I know Orengo leads some legal team to come up with AN EXPEDITED ROADMAP TO AMENDING THE CONSTITUTION. In other words, they get shortcuts to amend katiba. Then have already neutered Supreme Court issue an approving Opinion and then they are good to go. Such amendments is of course to get rid of a DP; applying it retrospectively is not a problem so long as Supreme Court is onboard. There are other options being considered so I believe you when you talk of "war games on a simulator...."
Of course Senate Speaker can even create a 2/3 majority and it passes. Muturi will even have 2/3 majority and resolutions typed and ready before even convening National Assembly; All what Uhuru has to do is ask Muturi to do it!
Then Without a doubt threats are being issued "openly" and right now TangaTanga Team (especially in Mt. Kenya) has to ride Uhuru/Raila madness. And pray it doesn't get to a point where people get fed up.
Good thing Ruto has advised his troops to just not argue. And they should just accept what's coming and let Uhuru be.
All doors to Ruto presidency in 2022 has been closed including the door where Ouru dies. Ruto will not be president even if Ouru were to drop dead tomorrow. War games have been played on a simulator and every move that Ruto can make has been taken into consideration and a counter move developed. Ruto's best move is to do what Isaac Ruto did, kiss ass, like his life depended on it, and survive to fight another day. Start with Ouru's ass, apologise to Gidi and Raila and then declare is total loyalty. And thenm maybe then, can he survive to run in 2027, God willing.
Ruto will not resign. That position is too powerful because if anything happens to Uhuru - you become PORK. It's like Deputy Governor - even if you have no job - you never know. So I don't see Ruto resigning. As for impeachment succeeding tough luck. Getting 2/3 of senate and parliament is no mean feat.
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Precisely, they only had 2 cards and one joker ( Senate, parliament and fake PEV) . Once parliament is sorted out it's all over. Gideon must be celebrating, Uhuru has cleared the way for Moi 2.0
All the hue and cry from Garliv and Pundit- is smelling dog-beating early and creating a narrative. Kihika and Murkomen have high court appointment and will prove there was no quorum if true. Of course there is nothing magical about Ruto Kalenjin warriors that would immunize Ruto from mischief. Kalenjin barbarism is centuries old and it plain stupid to feed the hyena your goat. Simply get your rungu and spear ready to face the animal.
Raila will clean the floor with Ruto regardless of PEV 2 and secession. :) He can’t beat Raila with Uhuru backing despite all the lies about Ruto stranglehold in GEMA. That the Kalenjin alien somehow represent Mt Kenya interest... That hot air and blinkers that are melting away as we watch. Spin works until it doesn’t.
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If Raila doesn’t shoot himself in the foot, keeps his coalition of Luhya, Kamba, coast, parts of Rift Valley and north eastern, he will win by noon on the election. Ruto can have all the Kikuyu votes but will not win, why? Without one them in the game, Kikuyus will have the lowest turnout ever like 30%. I do not see where a situation where any of my relatives in central wake up at 4am or abandon their business for Ruto. There will also be a major campaign to remind them of Moi days and Ruto’s corruption ways. I think the govt has an explosive dossier on this guy and his thieving ways.
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Pokot and Tugen are not even bothered by Ruto nonsense... they just pokonyad the bone from Elgeyo. Now Kipsigis are about to be appeased through Isaac. I heard Gideon saying the Uhuru/GEMA debt is to the Kalenjin not Ruto...
Precisely, they only had 2 cards and one joker ( Senate, parliament and fake PEV) . Once parliament is sorted out it's all over. Gideon must be celebrating, Uhuru has cleared the way for Moi 2.0
All the hue and cry from Garliv and Pundit- is smelling dog-beating early and creating a narrative. Kihika and Murkomen have high court appointment and will prove there was no quorum if true. Of course there is nothing magical about Ruto Kalenjin warriors that would immunize Ruto from mischief. Kalenjin barbarism is centuries old and it plain stupid to feed the hyena your goat. Simply get your rungu and spear ready to face the animal.
Raila will clean the floor with Ruto regardless of PEV 2 and secession. :) He can’t beat Raila with Uhuru backing despite all the lies about Ruto stranglehold in GEMA. That the Kalenjin alien somehow represent Mt Kenya interest... That hot air and blinkers that are melting away as we watch. Spin works until it doesn’t.
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If Raila doesn’t shoot himself in the foot, keeps his coalition of Luhya, Kamba, coast, parts of Rift Valley and north eastern, he will win by noon on the election. Ruto can have all the Kikuyu votes but will not win, why? Without one them in the game, Kikuyus will have the lowest turnout ever like 30%. I do not see where a situation where any of my relatives in central wake up at 4am or abandon their business for Ruto. There will also be a major campaign to remind them of Moi days and Ruto’s corruption ways. I think the govt has an explosive dossier on this guy and his thieving ways.
The real card is Kiambaa videos. It is like Hitler Nazi gas chambers that cremated Jews alive. I keep reading that Kikuyu blame Raila for PEV not Ruto: yawwnnnn. Whether GEMA vote big or small Ruto will not get them without Uhuru.
I don’t see Raila messing this by taking Tangatanga self- serving advice to make big demands. He will accept the small bone for the bigger prize. If Ruto endorses Raila - :D :D - we can just swear him in without elections.
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Kissing the ring.. another senator heartlessly abandons the hustler
Senator Naomi Jillo defends absence from Uhuru's meeting
I would like to state that my loyalty lies with our Head of State and Party Leader, His Excellency President Uhuru M. Kenyatta,” she said Friday.
She disclosed that she stands by and is guided by the President's decisions in all matters affecting "our Party and our great Nation."
I congratulate and support our new leaders in Senate; Sen Samuel Pogishio, Sen Fatuma Dullo, Sen Irungu Kangata and Sen Farhiya Haji.”
https://mobile.nation.co.ke/news/politics/Jillo-defends-absence-from-Uhuru-meeting/3126390-5553618-uppm1e/index.html
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Kiambaa is dead - next kiambaa is what they need to worry about.You don't want to wake up those demons. Besides where have you been last 10yrs.
The real card is Kiambaa videos. It is like Hitler Nazi gas chambers that cremated Jews alive. I keep reading that Kikuyu blame Raila for PEV not Ruto: yawwnnnn. Whether GEMA vote big or small Ruto will not get them without Uhuru.
I don’t see Raila messing this by taking Tangatanga self- serving advice to make big demands. He will accept the small bone for the bigger prize. If Ruto endorses Raila - :D :D - we can just swear him in without elections.
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The Kikuyus in Rift Valley are behind Ruto and will vote in massive numbers for him. Will Kalenjins then go on and start killing their neighbors who voted with them?I think Ruto is too intelligent for that, he does not want to be disenfranchised and lose his massive wealth. Raila also has a lot of asses to kiss before all this comes to fruition, he has betrayed a lot of people to be where he is, luhyas, Kambas, Luos in the Miguna army etc
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If they vote for Ruto - they will live happily thereafter - if they don't - then Kalenjin will vent their frustration on them for a long time. That, unfortunately, is the politics. The same fate is going to befall kipsigis in Narok - there is going to be land clashes as Maasai defend Narok.
The Kikuyus in Rift Valley are behind Ruto and will vote in massive numbers for him. Will Kalenjins then go on and start killing their neighbors who voted with them?I think Ruto is too intelligent for that, he does not want to be disenfranchised and lose his massive wealth. Raila also has a lot of asses to kiss before all this comes to fruition, he has betrayed a lot of people to be where he is, luhyas, Kambas, Luos in the Miguna army etc
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@Robina, YES. Debt is not to Ruto as a person, but to the Kalenjin. Therefore whoever Kalenjins have accepted as their leader/frontman is where the payment should be deposited. It happens to be Ruto and therefore Debt is owed to Ruto. Gideon is a non-starter in Kalenjin Land. If you think GM will deliver anything more than 2% then you better stop dreaming.
Second, Gema has beef with Uhuru. They no longer respect him as they used to. And they wish he was out of power. Even an old aunt has been treating Uhuru as someone he cannot even watch on TV delivering his mumbling. It's that bad.
Then you fail to appreciate or understand that Uhuru is on his FINAL TERM. He has served his two terms and no one wants him back. If he was dumping Ruto as we were going for 2nd term and took Raila, THEN there would be a chance that Gema would follow him. And even then it would have taken a lot of convincing the masses WHY he was teaming up with Raila. So for now, everyone in Gema knows/understand WE DON'T HAVE SOMEONE FOR PRESIDENT THIS TIME and WE ARE SUPPORTING RUTO. Uhuru has not explained to people why he is ditching Ruto; Why he wants to stay in power; Why Raila? etc etc. He just expects that Gema is made up of zombies who will follow his ass wherever he goes. It ain't happening!
It is the same attitude you and Raila and his supporters and political thinkers assume; that with Uhuru on board then Gema is taken care of. NOT THIS TIME. IT AIN'T WORKING AND IT WILL FAIL. WATCH THIS SPACE.
Things are thick; Irungu Kang;ata has gotten nothing but abuse and total rejection in his County for being with UHuru/Raila camp. You'd expect his County will be happy for he has been "promoted" but he's having it rough. That should tell you something. And there are no signs that it will change soon.
Third, any right thinking Geman even the not schooled one all agree THERE IS NO SUFFICIENT REASON TO ABANDON/BETRAY RUTO. And therefore most now see Uhuru as "selling us" that we cannot stick to a political deal or vote for anyone else. Ironically this view (without context) was popularized by Raila and now people are determined to prove it isn't true. Besides, even a bodaboda rider or a butchery attendant can see consequences of what Uhuru is doing; SO HOW COME UHURU CANNOT?
NB: Gema are not coward that they must support Ruto out of fear; but people are asking JUST TELL US WHY HE IS NO LONGER A GOOD PARTNER!? That crap of him being corrupt is and will not wash in Gema. Reason being "Who's clean?" Even there are people who can give you list of items/possessions Kenyatta the father as recorded by the British and ask you "walipata hizi vitu zote aje wako nazo leo?" Besides, let me not start with several scandals associated with Uhuru or Raila. Or any senior politician who have been in government. So that won't wash.
Should you bring issues that Ruto is to blame for PEV, then where was Raila? For if Uhuru reject Ruto because of PEV against Kikuyus, is Raila innocent? Besides, people know Raila campaigned and popularised 41 vs 1 and this is not a secret. Then he's blamed (for real or imagined) for instigating ICC charges and cases against Ruto and Uhuru.
Finally on PEV, since some peace meetings and others held in Nakuru and other places Ruto actually did talk about PEV and took "the Royal blame and apologised..." and people went on to form coalition which won in 2013. Since then people know Ruto has stuck to his word/promise and he has been a LOYAL DEPUTY to Uhuru. Therefore there is ABSOLUTELY NO REASON NOT TO VOTE FOR HIM IN 2022.
That's the context of what's cooking.
For future violence; that's my theory (and a real possibility) that it can happen without anyone "big" planning as Kikuyus/Kalenjins live intermixed in the RV. And when things get hot emotions can get out of hand. More importantly i do not trust Uhuru/Raila group to play fair. Some dark forces may instigate violence as a way "getting rid of the obstacle..." through the ICC. Ole Ledama was laying the basics for such and it is a good thing BBI Reggae took a pause (half-time as per RAO).
BTW, I do not think Raila has Kambas on his side. You have claimed numerously that Raila has the upper hand outside of Gema/Kalenjin. That is not supported by fact. Raila is assured of Luos, Luhyas. Kisiis maybe 60%, Somalis are with Ruto and so are Turkanas. Kambas are NOT with Raila unless Kalonzo still agree to keep following Raila. So where are Raila numbers? And i bet majority of Maasais are with Ruto (you can take it to the bank..)
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No serious GEMA is biting PEV 2 bait of vote Ruto or else. Kiambaa gas chamber videos will finish Ruto. Contra to your imaginations Ruto has warned Sudis and Cherargeis to be mute. No war cries. Cause you threaten GEMA ... now they NEED Uhuru to stay in power to protect them. Threats or actual PEV 2 will bruise Ruto and Kalenjin badly - in bodycount and politically. Kalenjin just like GEMA are weary to be dragged down the abyss by Ruto greed. Waging war without Odinga political cover is 41 vs 1 as Luhya and Gusii diaspora face collateral. Kalenjin will show Ruto the middle finger and join Gideon and Isaac.
Ruto can lose Kalenjin sooner than Uhuru with Mt Kenya. No one will sink with the lone ranger as Uhuru prop Pokot, Tugen and Kipsigis.
Kiambaa is dead - next kiambaa is what they need to worry about.You don't want to wake up those demons. Besides where have you been last 10yrs.
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Ruto kitu gani? By the time your wit resurrect... Ruto will be at 14% URP.
Mr Kenyatta, who for a long period avoided calling a PG for fear of possible embarrassment as most of the lawmakers were seen to be pro-Ruto, is now buoyed by the “Senate experiment”.
A number of MPs allied to the DP have confessed to switching camps for their political survival.
“Why would I lose my job for a man I’m not even sure will be the next president? It’s not worth it,” one of them said.
https://mobile.nation.co.ke/news/politics/Cabinet--PSs-in-panic-as-axe-looms/3126390-5554128-1cs2o9z/index.html
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Lol. You're one cartoon.
Ruto can lose Kalenjin sooner than Uhuru with Mt Kenya. No one will sink with the lone ranger as Uhuru prop Pokot, Tugen and Kipsigis.
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You do lots of spin and theory about Ruto magic. While we have actual news about Uhuru swinging the hammer ruthlessly.
Seem small boy professor from Tharaka is next.
Kindiki targeted in Jubilee purge
For MPs rumor is Bahati Kimani Ngunjiri will be first to be hanged... the loudest heckler. The rest of the cowards will scatter.
Lol. You're one cartoon.
Ruto can lose Kalenjin sooner than Uhuru with Mt Kenya. No one will sink with the lone ranger as Uhuru prop Pokot, Tugen and Kipsigis.
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Can they raise 75% of senators to fire Kindiki.
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Uhuru if was to run for pork against Ruto today he wont get more than 9%of GEMA votes. Its that bad. Going for kindiki is a waste of time, he can't buy Kindiki and Kindiki is already comfortable with the outcome. He won't beg like i have seen some senators do some from kalenjin what a betrayal and Lusaka. Kindiki was circumcised at dew point at the river a real Meru and unlike kangata who was brought up eating vegetables all his life, kindiki is self made in tharaka there are no sissies. Kindiki is typical Meru strong mindset.
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Yes Kindiki and other Nyambene guy are hard-headed. And it really stupid to sell out cheap because Uhuru is going to forget about you soon. But if you keep at it - you raise your price - and as Uhuru become desperate - the price for every motion to pass will be high.
Uhuru right now is officially a Raila bi.atch. Raila will tell him how high he needs to jump - because he has left Jubilee with a few Kieleweke mps.
And still Raila is not enough - he still needs Kalonzo, Madvd to get 106 - because Ruto has 125mps.
Uhuru if was to run for pork against Ruto today he wont get more than 9%of GEMA votes. Its that bad. Going for kindiki is a waste of time, he can't buy Kindiki and Kindiki is already comfortable with the outcome. He won't beg like i have seen some senators do some from kalenjin what a betrayal and Lusaka. Kindiki was circumcised at dew point at the river a real Meru and unlike kangata who was brought up eating vegetables all his life, kindiki is self made in tharaka there are no sissies. Kindiki is typical Meru strong mindset.
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They're scared that in the absence of Lusaka, Kindiki can make a ruling that favours TANGATANGA
Yes Kindiki and other Nyambene guy are hard-headed. And it really stupid to sell out cheap because Uhuru is going to forget about you soon. But if you keep at it - you raise your price - and as Uhuru become desperate - the price for every motion to pass will be high.
Uhuru right now is officially a Raila bi.atch. Raila will tell him how high he needs to jump - because he has left Jubilee with a few Kieleweke mps.
And still Raila is not enough - he still needs Kalonzo, Madvd to get 106 - because Ruto has 125mps.
Uhuru if was to run for pork against Ruto today he wont get more than 9%of GEMA votes. Its that bad. Going for kindiki is a waste of time, he can't buy Kindiki and Kindiki is already comfortable with the outcome. He won't beg like i have seen some senators do some from kalenjin what a betrayal and Lusaka. Kindiki was circumcised at dew point at the river a real Meru and unlike kangata who was brought up eating vegetables all his life, kindiki is self made in tharaka there are no sissies. Kindiki is typical Meru strong mindset.
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But removing a speaker is hard - 75% of senate is not easy. I think these are hollow threat. It easier to assassinate him. And Uhuru will get there pretty soon. His modus operandi is like that - when he can no longer bribe
nor intimidate - he will start killing folks.
They're scared that in the absence of Lusaka, Kindiki can make a ruling that favours TANGATANGA
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No one is going after Kindinki. The small boy has not even found his voice. Why finish him when you can have him there doing your bidding. They have his whole file for blackmail. If Tangatanga is banking on kindinki I hope they have plan B.
You do lots of spin and theory about Ruto magic. While we have actual news about Uhuru swinging the hammer ruthlessly.
Seem small boy professor from Tharaka is next.
Kindiki targeted in Jubilee purge
For MPs rumor is Bahati Kimani Ngunjiri will be first to be hanged... the loudest heckler. The rest of the cowards will scatter.
Lol. You're one cartoon.
Ruto can lose Kalenjin sooner than Uhuru with Mt Kenya. No one will sink with the lone ranger as Uhuru prop Pokot, Tugen and Kipsigis.
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They need 2/3 for D/Speaker impeachment since 2015 or thereabout
But removing a speaker is hard - 75% of senate is not easy. I think these are hollow threat. It easier to assassinate him. And Uhuru will get there pretty soon. His modus operandi is like that - when he can no longer bribe
nor intimidate - he will start killing folks.
They're scared that in the absence of Lusaka, Kindiki can make a ruling that favours TANGATANGA
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Purge is necessary with the coming BBI referendum and political battles. Even the nominated senators sending half- hearted apologies might not survive. I expect at least one Kikuyu Tangatanga MP to be recalled - Kimani Ngunjiri, Kuria or Ichung'wa. Just one. The rest of Gachaguas have already gone mute.
Yes Kindiki is likely to be spared but only because Deputy Speaker is a powerless pompous post just like DPORK, deputy governor or deputy party leader. A committee chair is more powerful. Secondly Kindiki and Linturi are both Meru so the latter is more likely to hang alone as he is a louder heckler.
No one is going after Kindinki. The small boy has not even found his voice. Why finish him when you can have him there doing your bidding. They have his whole file for blackmail. If Tangatanga is banking on kindinki I hope they have plan B.
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Ruto badly needs the BBI referendum to test his strength in GEMA - so he can either keep Plan A or start thinking Plan B
Purge is necessary with the coming BBI referendum and political battles. Even the nominated senators sending half- hearted apologies might not survive. I expect at least one Kikuyu Tangatanga MP to be recalled - Kimani Ngunjiri, Kuria or Ichung'wa. Just one. The rest of Gachaguas have already gone mute.
Yes Kindiki is likely to be spared but only because Deputy Speaker is a powerless pompous post just like DPORK, deputy governor or deputy party leader. A committee chair is more powerful. Secondly Kindiki and Linturi are both Meru so the latter is more likely to hang alone as he is a louder heckler.
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I thought Ruto already has GEMA :) And that he will do all he can to torpedo BBI so it remain Ruto vs Raila. Referendum would be 2010 redux - with Tangatanga as Red Team. 70-30
Ruto badly needs the BBI referendum to test his strength in GEMA - so he can either keep Plan A or start thinking Plan B
Purge is necessary with the coming BBI referendum and political battles. Even the nominated senators sending half- hearted apologies might not survive. I expect at least one Kikuyu Tangatanga MP to be recalled - Kimani Ngunjiri, Kuria or Ichung'wa. Just one. The rest of Gachaguas have already gone mute.
Yes Kindiki is likely to be spared but only because Deputy Speaker is a powerless pompous post just like DPORK, deputy governor or deputy party leader. A committee chair is more powerful. Secondly Kindiki and Linturi are both Meru so the latter is more likely to hang alone as he is a louder heckler.
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Surely after 10yrs - Ruto has improved from 31% to something close to 50%. GEMA is undergoing a revolution - and the ultimate goal is to make Kenyatta as effective as Gideon Moi in Kalenjin land. Let him bring the referendum - and then his people will reject him - and we will have new party out of the referendum.
I thought Ruto already has GEMA :) And that he will do all he can to torpedo BBI so it remain Ruto vs Raila. Referendum would be 2010 redux - with Tangatanga as Red Team. 70-30
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The notion that Gema will choose Ruto over Ouru is laughable. I remember you lecturing me over and over again about the fact that the tribe is the most reliable indicator of how Kenyans vote. What changed? Ruto?
Surely after 10yrs - Ruto has improved from 31% to something close to 50%. GEMA is undergoing a revolution - and the ultimate goal is to make Kenyatta as effective as Gideon Moi in Kalenjin land. Let him bring the referendum - and then his people will reject him - and we will have new party out of the referendum.
I thought Ruto already has GEMA :) And that he will do all he can to torpedo BBI so it remain Ruto vs Raila. Referendum would be 2010 redux - with Tangatanga as Red Team. 70-30
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Remember I helped you for 3yrs to understand how Ruto was de-coupling Kalenjin from ODM. Remember you missed the afternoon lessons where I told you only Luos and Raila enjoy such kind of relationship - where Raila can take them anyway - and they don't question. Other tribes - you need to move with everyone on board.
Uhuru is the past - and GEMA is facing the future. Kalenjin rejected Moi -didn't they?
I think you should read new book about Kenya tribal politics by
The notion that Gema will choose Ruto over Ouru is laughable. I remember you lecturing me over and over again about the fact that the tribe is the most reliable indicator of how Kenyans vote. What changed? Ruto?
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There is nexus btw tribal politics - community interest versus personal leader interest. If they diverge - then you risk like Uhuru is doing - becoming another Moi - or many other leaders whom their communities have thought they no longer represent their interest. MaDVD is another good example...getting kicked out for MP seat while he was Vice President.
Selling Raila in Central definitely is one of such decisions.
https://www.oxfordhandbooks.com/view/10.1093/oxfordhb/9780198815693.001.0001/oxfordhb-9780198815693
Kenyan politics is often depicted as a battle between different ethnic “Big Men” who can mobilise their supporters with a click of their fingers. The ability of successive generations of the Kenyatta family to rally the support of the Kikuyu community, and of Odingas to command the loyalty of Luos, means it is also seen to be dominated by a small number of dynasties – a Game of Thrones, if you will.
But this is a gross over simplification. Our new Handbook of Kenyan Politics – which features 50 chapters on different aspects of political life – tells a very different story. Ethnic leaders often fail to carry the support of their own group, either because they are not seen to have the community’s interest at heart, or because a rival appears to have a more credible chance of winning power.
And while the role of ethnicity is overstated, class is much more important than is commonly thought. Class here might more accurately be called elite cohesion, given the lack of clearly demarcated social classes.
This finding might surprise some readers, but while ethnicity clearly shapes how people think and vote it is the degree of elite cohesion that determines whether the country is politically stable or not.
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Gema right now is very ripe for revolution. What is missing is just a fearless leader to rally the troops and the people. Kiunjuri seems to be scared. If someone like Kabogo or Martha was to come forward and face Uhuru - they will get huge community backing.
Obviously Uhuru can borrow from Raila playbook and crash any dissident :) but it's probably too little too late
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Moi was already out of office and there was a vacuum when Ruto became a tribal leader. Uhuru is not a lame duck yet and that is the miscalculation Ruto made. He started campaigning too early and, scared Gema. Now Ouru is no longer interested in retirement and is nolonger lame duck. There will always be those in Gema tired of the Kenyattaa dynasty but they are inconsequential like Mungiki was over time. Anyway good luck with the revolution in Gema. Give me a shout when its over and Ruto is the new king of Gema.
Gema right now is very ripe for revolution. What is missing is just a fearless leader to rally the troops and the people. Kiunjuri seems to be scared. If someone like Kabogo or Martha was to come forward and face Uhuru - they will get huge community backing.
Obviously Uhuru can borrow from Raila playbook and crash any dissident :) but it's probably too little too late
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There is a lot at stake.
First Uhuru if he betrays Ruto has to find answers for 1M Kikuyu diaspora in rift valley who will face arrows and whose long term stability in RV will be affected. Uhuru is going around talking about uniting the country while causing Kalenjin- Kikuyu rift. That is enough to convict him.
Point no 2 - He is selling Raila. GEMA has been taught to hate Raila and Luos for many generations. No need to over-emphasis that.
Point no 3 - The economy has crashed - GEMA cannot put hand what Uhuru has done for them - and the little he was trying to do - now has been overtake by COVID-19 - the next two years - will be very bad times economically. GEMA will blame Uhuru and Raila...not CORONA.
Point no 4 - Uhuru is not consulting anybody - not Mps, not governors, not senators - he is basically using brute force - not even money to bribe leaders - just my highway or the highway.
Point no 5 - Uhuru is going to be lame-duck soon - he has ONE more budget - and by next year - people will not care what he thinks - but what ground think. Supporting Uhuru or BBI or name it in central is one ticket to go home..now. Until UHURU amend the Katiba...he is lameduck.
Those are like 5 salient points that are sinking Uhuru.
Uhuru has tried to play it for last 2.5yrs - NO traction in GEMA.
GEMA is crying for new leadership - and revolution is very ripe.
Moi was already out of office and there was a vacuum when Ruto became a tribal leader. Uhuru is not a lame duck yet and that is the miscalculation Ruto made. He started campaigning too early and, scared Gema. Now Ouru is no longer interested in retirement and is nolonger lame duck. There will always be those in Gema tired of the Kenyattaa dynasty but they are inconsequential like Mungiki was over time. Anyway good luck with the revolution in Gema. Give me a shout when its over and Ruto is the new king of Gema.
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It is well known that yours and Raila's thinking is that Gema will eventually "see the right.." and support Uhuru. This time IT WILL NOT HAPPEN.
I personally have never even seen/heard/experienced INSULTS being directed at a politician like torrent of insults that are being hurled at Uhuru Jameson Konyagi. From popular social media forwards, to tweets, to comments sections of news mentioning him and radio call-ins. It's terrible. He has lost all respect. And mind you, there is no one organising these people; it's purely grassroot disgust.
And i say this even when i compare insults hurled at Raila during campaigns. It's simply incredible.
Find sometime and notice public anger/disgust.
Then its truly weird what's happening; ODM/Raila on one hand have been trumpeting that Mt. Kenya CANNOT SUPPORT anyone else for President; that they are tribal to the core; that they cannot honour a political deal; AT THE SAME TIME busy making alliance with Uhuru to betray Ruto/Kalenjin hoping Gema will go along; THEN they taunting Kalenjins that "You see, WE TOLD YOU SO! Hawa watu hawawezi peana hio kiti..." And then ODM/Raila are perplexed WHY MT. KENYA is still WITH RUTO. Miguna Miguna has an almost accurate phrase to describe Raila as A POLITICAL CONMAN.
Kichwa, Gema is NOT boarding that Uhuru/Raila Train or Reggae. It will NOT happen. And i can bet you on this....
FREE ADVICE TO RAILA; : Abandon Uhuru Jameson Konyangi and let him retire. Then if you want Mt. Kenya support get there yourself and sell yourself and your ideas. And also find out why so many find it hard to support you. Since this Handshake, you have never tried to woo or explain to Mt. Kenya what's all about. Neither has your plastic brother bothered explain it or explain WHY Ruto is suddenly the BAD GUY. IN SHORT, GO TO MT. KENYA AND CONVINCE WHY YOU ARE BETTER THAN RUTO.
FOLLOWING Uhuru Wanjohi is definitely a route to nowhere. You will only enjoy state power/machinery and of course lots of shillings that comes with it BUT ONLY for 2years.
The notion that Gema will choose Ruto over Ouru is laughable. I remember you lecturing me over and over again about the fact that the tribe is the most reliable indicator of how Kenyans vote. What changed? Ruto?
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It is well known that yours and Raila's thinking is that Gema will eventually "see the right.." and support Uhuru. This time IT WILL NOT HAPPEN.
I personally have never even seen/heard/experienced INSULTS being directed at a politician like torrent of insults that are being hurled at Uhuru Jameson Konyagi. From popular social media forwards, to tweets, to comments sections of news mentioning him and radio call-ins. It's terrible. He has lost all respect. And mind you, there is no one organising these people; it's purely grassroot disgust.
And i say this even when i compare insults hurled at Raila during campaigns. It's simply incredible.
Find sometime and notice public anger/disgust.
Then its truly weird what's happening; ODM/Raila on one hand have been trumpeting that Mt. Kenya CANNOT SUPPORT anyone else for President; that they are tribal to the core; that they cannot honour a political deal; AT THE SAME TIME busy making alliance with Uhuru to betray Ruto/Kalenjin hoping Gema will go along; THEN they taunting Kalenjins that "You see, WE TOLD YOU SO! Hawa watu hawawezi peana hio kiti..." And then ODM/Raila are perplexed WHY MT. KENYA is still WITH RUTO. Miguna Miguna has an almost accurate phrase to describe Raila as A POLITICAL CONMAN.
Kichwa, Gema is NOT boarding that Uhuru/Raila Train or Reggae. It will NOT happen. And i can bet you on this....
FREE ADVICE TO RAILA; : Abandon Uhuru Jameson Konyangi and let him retire. Then if you want Mt. Kenya support get there yourself and sell yourself and your ideas. And also find out why so many find it hard to support you. Since this Handshake, you have never tried to woo or explain to Mt. Kenya what's all about. Neither has your plastic brother bothered explain it or explain WHY Ruto is suddenly the BAD GUY. IN SHORT, GO TO MT. KENYA AND CONVINCE WHY YOU ARE BETTER THAN RUTO.
FOLLOWING Uhuru Wanjohi is definitely a route to nowhere. You will only enjoy state power/machinery and of course lots of shillings that comes with it BUT ONLY for 2years.
The notion that Gema will choose Ruto over Ouru is laughable. I remember you lecturing me over and over again about the fact that the tribe is the most reliable indicator of how Kenyans vote. What changed? Ruto?
Maybe kamwana is a fool listening to misinformed idiots. OR he has been convinced that inclusion outside GEMA is the sustainable way to go.
He has been in 3 contested elections since 2013. With maxed out GEMA/Kalenjin support. In only the boycotted one was he confident enough to share the information in the server :D. It’s the only one he won. Me thinks he is not being foolish.
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It is well known that yours and Raila's thinking is that Gema will eventually "see the right.." and support Uhuru. This time IT WILL NOT HAPPEN.
I personally have never even seen/heard/experienced INSULTS being directed at a politician like torrent of insults that are being hurled at Uhuru Jameson Konyagi. From popular social media forwards, to tweets, to comments sections of news mentioning him and radio call-ins. It's terrible. He has lost all respect. And mind you, there is no one organising these people; it's purely grassroot disgust.
And i say this even when i compare insults hurled at Raila during campaigns. It's simply incredible.
Find sometime and notice public anger/disgust.
Then its truly weird what's happening; ODM/Raila on one hand have been trumpeting that Mt. Kenya CANNOT SUPPORT anyone else for President; that they are tribal to the core; that they cannot honour a political deal; AT THE SAME TIME busy making alliance with Uhuru to betray Ruto/Kalenjin hoping Gema will go along; THEN they taunting Kalenjins that "You see, WE TOLD YOU SO! Hawa watu hawawezi peana hio kiti..." And then ODM/Raila are perplexed WHY MT. KENYA is still WITH RUTO. Miguna Miguna has an almost accurate phrase to describe Raila as A POLITICAL CONMAN.
Kichwa, Gema is NOT boarding that Uhuru/Raila Train or Reggae. It will NOT happen. And i can bet you on this....
FREE ADVICE TO RAILA; : Abandon Uhuru Jameson Konyangi and let him retire. Then if you want Mt. Kenya support get there yourself and sell yourself and your ideas. And also find out why so many find it hard to support you. Since this Handshake, you have never tried to woo or explain to Mt. Kenya what's all about. Neither has your plastic brother bothered explain it or explain WHY Ruto is suddenly the BAD GUY. IN SHORT, GO TO MT. KENYA AND CONVINCE WHY YOU ARE BETTER THAN RUTO.
FOLLOWING Uhuru Wanjohi is definitely a route to nowhere. You will only enjoy state power/machinery and of course lots of shillings that comes with it BUT ONLY for 2years.
The notion that Gema will choose Ruto over Ouru is laughable. I remember you lecturing me over and over again about the fact that the tribe is the most reliable indicator of how Kenyans vote. What changed? Ruto?
Maybe kamwana is a fool listening to misinformed idiots. OR he has been convinced that inclusion outside GEMA is the sustainable way to go.
He has been in 3 contested elections since 2013. With maxed out GEMA/Kalenjin support. In only the boycotted one was he confident enough to share the information in the server :D. It’s the only one he won. Me thinks he is not being foolish.
Furthermore- only Garliv and Njuri Ncheke are keenly aware of the said grassroots hostility against Uhuru. For proof they have had La Mada, gutter stories written by Itumbi, a tweet about chiefs vetting people at Kirinyaga stadium. All we see in the real world is GEMA créme rejecting Ruto, insulting him and now openly battering him. The almighty Ruto won’t take on the lameduck Uhuru for some reason... while even a driver or cleaner backing the hustler is clearly marked.
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It is well known that yours and Raila's thinking is that Gema will eventually "see the right.." and support Uhuru. This time IT WILL NOT HAPPEN.
I personally have never even seen/heard/experienced INSULTS being directed at a politician like torrent of insults that are being hurled at Uhuru Jameson Konyagi. From popular social media forwards, to tweets, to comments sections of news mentioning him and radio call-ins. It's terrible. He has lost all respect. And mind you, there is no one organising these people; it's purely grassroot disgust.
And i say this even when i compare insults hurled at Raila during campaigns. It's simply incredible.
Find sometime and notice public anger/disgust.
Then its truly weird what's happening; ODM/Raila on one hand have been trumpeting that Mt. Kenya CANNOT SUPPORT anyone else for President; that they are tribal to the core; that they cannot honour a political deal; AT THE SAME TIME busy making alliance with Uhuru to betray Ruto/Kalenjin hoping Gema will go along; THEN they taunting Kalenjins that "You see, WE TOLD YOU SO! Hawa watu hawawezi peana hio kiti..." And then ODM/Raila are perplexed WHY MT. KENYA is still WITH RUTO. Miguna Miguna has an almost accurate phrase to describe Raila as A POLITICAL CONMAN.
Kichwa, Gema is NOT boarding that Uhuru/Raila Train or Reggae. It will NOT happen. And i can bet you on this....
FREE ADVICE TO RAILA; : Abandon Uhuru Jameson Konyangi and let him retire. Then if you want Mt. Kenya support get there yourself and sell yourself and your ideas. And also find out why so many find it hard to support you. Since this Handshake, you have never tried to woo or explain to Mt. Kenya what's all about. Neither has your plastic brother bothered explain it or explain WHY Ruto is suddenly the BAD GUY. IN SHORT, GO TO MT. KENYA AND CONVINCE WHY YOU ARE BETTER THAN RUTO.
FOLLOWING Uhuru Wanjohi is definitely a route to nowhere. You will only enjoy state power/machinery and of course lots of shillings that comes with it BUT ONLY for 2years.
The notion that Gema will choose Ruto over Ouru is laughable. I remember you lecturing me over and over again about the fact that the tribe is the most reliable indicator of how Kenyans vote. What changed? Ruto?
Maybe kamwana is a fool listening to misinformed idiots. OR he has been convinced that inclusion outside GEMA is the sustainable way to go.
He has been in 3 contested elections since 2013. With maxed out GEMA/Kalenjin support. In only the boycotted one was he confident enough to share the information in the server :D . It’s the only one he won. Me thinks he is not being foolish.
Furthermore- only Garliv and Njuri Ncheke are keenly aware of the said grassroots hostility against Uhuru. For proof they have had La Mada, gutter stories written by Itumbi, a tweet about chiefs vetting people at Kirinyaga stadium. All we see in the real world is GEMA créme rejecting Ruto, insulting him and now openly battering him. The almighty Ruto won’t take on the lameduck Uhuru for some reason... while even a driver or cleaner backing the hustler is clearly marked.
The hustler is apparently out of cards. Maybe he has 1 million hostages. But, supposing that is even a thing, how do you play the hostage card when everybody is talking unity? You play right into the BBI playbook. I saw his attack dogs saying they will work with serikali. It's pretty shocking how the tables have turned *SMDH*.
I don't know what the final game plan is(apart from hustler is not in it), but if kamwana has the goodwill of NASA honchos, there is really nothing to stop them from getting certain shit done, including even postponing elections until things are in place.
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Can GEMA lait sustain the anger against it's elite without alternative leadership? That is the big question.
It is well known that yours and Raila's thinking is that Gema will eventually "see the right.." and support Uhuru. This time IT WILL NOT HAPPEN.
I personally have never even seen/heard/experienced INSULTS being directed at a politician like torrent of insults that are being hurled at Uhuru Jameson Konyagi. From popular social media forwards, to tweets, to comments sections of news mentioning him and radio call-ins. It's terrible. He has lost all respect. And mind you, there is no one organising these people; it's purely grassroot disgust.
And i say this even when i compare insults hurled at Raila during campaigns. It's simply incredible.
Find sometime and notice public anger/disgust.
Then its truly weird what's happening; ODM/Raila on one hand have been trumpeting that Mt. Kenya CANNOT SUPPORT anyone else for President; that they are tribal to the core; that they cannot honour a political deal; AT THE SAME TIME busy making alliance with Uhuru to betray Ruto/Kalenjin hoping Gema will go along; THEN they taunting Kalenjins that "You see, WE TOLD YOU SO! Hawa watu hawawezi peana hio kiti..." And then ODM/Raila are perplexed WHY MT. KENYA is still WITH RUTO. Miguna Miguna has an almost accurate phrase to describe Raila as A POLITICAL CONMAN.
Kichwa, Gema is NOT boarding that Uhuru/Raila Train or Reggae. It will NOT happen. And i can bet you on this....
FREE ADVICE TO RAILA; : Abandon Uhuru Jameson Konyangi and let him retire. Then if you want Mt. Kenya support get there yourself and sell yourself and your ideas. And also find out why so many find it hard to support you. Since this Handshake, you have never tried to woo or explain to Mt. Kenya what's all about. Neither has your plastic brother bothered explain it or explain WHY Ruto is suddenly the BAD GUY. IN SHORT, GO TO MT. KENYA AND CONVINCE WHY YOU ARE BETTER THAN RUTO.
FOLLOWING Uhuru Wanjohi is definitely a route to nowhere. You will only enjoy state power/machinery and of course lots of shillings that comes with it BUT ONLY for 2years.
The notion that Gema will choose Ruto over Ouru is laughable. I remember you lecturing me over and over again about the fact that the tribe is the most reliable indicator of how Kenyans vote. What changed? Ruto?
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Mt Kenya and 2022 vote will just turn out like parliament and Kibra rout. It the same Kenya, same machinery, same landscape, same folks. Ruto phantom "numbers" are flanking the test badly
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You may not believe it, but Mt. Kenya has been relying on grassroort "feelings.." to reject Uhuru/Raila/BBI. And he has tried everything for the last almost 3 years and yet, he has not even been able to parade Raila and their BBI. That should tell you something.
People have accepted that THIS TIME they will support Ruto. It is good if someone popular get DP position but the focus is that MARA HII TUKO NA RUTO. You also do realize that it is because of GEMA consistent support that Uhuru and his group of henchmen have decided TIME IS FLYING AND THEY NEED TO ACT. If Gema had followed Uhuru to his dalliance with RAO then Ruto would be considered as "contained within his Kalenjin people..." He would not be having it this rough. Despite their public arrogance Uhuru henchmen akina Nancy, Kibicho, Murathe and NIS researchers THEY ALL AGREE/ADMIT GEMA WAKO NA RUTO.
Check Mutahi Ngunyi tweets of late; he has now resorted to insulting Gema/Kikuyu for following Ruto. He thinks people are mad. And this is the man who recently got some office at State House as political advisor. Nothing is working for them to win the masses and they know it!
In my opinion, what can spoil/mess that is if Ruto goes ahead and get into alliance with Raila. That would easily change his support. The other thing is if Ruto himself decides not to run for President and then the ground would have to find where to land.
Another factor is IF Uhuru/Raila manage to amend the constitution and usher in PM and whatnots. No one is sure how that would change moods on the ground. But one thing is clear: BETTER SOMEONE ELSE BUT NOT UHURU.
Can GEMA lait sustain the anger against it's elite without alternative leadership? That is the big question.
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Yes I agree, selling Raila is crossing the redline, and Ruto should not worry about that. I also don't think Uhuru is into selling Raila. GEMA elite fears Raila more than GEMA laity.
So we still need to figure out the Uhuru gameplan here. If he is playing politics so he can bank as much money as possible before retiring - then Ruto has to avoid any confrontation with him. Give him enough time to rule and loot as he wish.
If the plan is to prop Gideon Moi - Ruto can go to bed and wake up as president 2yrs from now.
If the plan is to prop another GEMA or even Kalonzo - Ruto has to think about plan B that includes working with Raila. That plan is most dangerous because GEMA could finally listen to Uhuru.
If the plan is to amend the Katiba and ensure Uhuru remains as PORK - that won't happen - that nuclear civil war option
If it comes back as PM - that too is laughable -
You may not believe it, but Mt. Kenya has been relying on grassroort "feelings.." to reject Uhuru/Raila/BBI. And he has tried everything for the last almost 3 years and yet, he has not even been able to parade Raila and their BBI. That should tell you something.
People have accepted that THIS TIME they will support Ruto. It is good if someone popular get DP position but the focus is that MARA HII TUKO NA RUTO. You also do realize that it is because of GEMA consistent support that Uhuru and his group of henchmen have decided TIME IS FLYING AND THEY NEED TO ACT. If Gema had followed Uhuru to his dalliance with RAO then Ruto would be considered as "contained within his Kalenjin people..." He would not be having it this rough. Despite their public arrogance Uhuru henchmen akina Nancy, Kibicho, Murathe and NIS researchers THEY ALL AGREE/ADMIT GEMA WAKO NA RUTO.
Check Mutahi Ngunyi tweets of late; he has now resorted to insulting Gema/Kikuyu for following Ruto. He thinks people are mad. And this is the man who recently got some office at State House as political advisor. Nothing is working for them to win the masses and they know it!
In my opinion, what can spoil/mess that is if Ruto goes ahead and get into alliance with Raila. That would easily change his support. The other thing is if Ruto himself decides not to run for President and then the ground would have to find where to land.
Another factor is IF Uhuru/Raila manage to amend the constitution and usher in PM and whatnots. No one is sure how that would change moods on the ground. But one thing is clear: BETTER SOMEONE ELSE BUT NOT UHURU.
Can GEMA lait sustain the anger against it's elite without alternative leadership? That is the big question.
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At this point in mt. Kenya what we will never accept is for Uhuru to remain in position of power be it Pork or PM that will be lighting a fire that will end up burning Gatundu down
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Some thoughts and rumblings...
1. Am now disabused of the fact that Gema elite fear Raila that much. They used him as a political scarecrow but i have come to realize they don't fear Raila. They fear his UNPREDICTABILITY but they don't REALLY fear him. Unfortunately or fortunately their campaign to use Raila as scarecrow has been very successful such that Raila is just the MOST polarizing figure to market in Mt. Kenya Region.
2. Gema elite and hosts of others TRULY FEAR RUTO AS PRESIDENT. This I have learnt in the last two years. They truly fear Ruto as a dictator. They view him as a pretender and once he takes power he will go after them. AND TRULY TRULY this is at the HEART OF KENYATTA FAMILY FEAR. This i have learnt of late from top honchos. Equally Raila's own Mafia doesn't want Ruto as President. They equally say "haka kamtu will be the worst dictator.."
3. I have also realized for all the talk of demonizing Raila, NO ONE HAS TRIED TO REPOSSESS his wealth. Few years ago, yours truly had an opportunity to witness how some deal was being executed between Gemas who publicly insult Raila and his henchmen. For Ruto, these mafias are ready to "repossess his property" and "sources of his funds..." That says a lot. Incredibly they still don't believe Ruto has GENUINE POLITICAL SUPPORT. They still believe he "bought people off..." Same thing they have NEVER ACCEPTED THAT RUTO TOOK OVER KALENJIN NATION. They are like; who's Ruto? he just got lucky and lied to people that he is Samoei..." Or such talk. That is part of the reason they want to INSTALL GIDEON.
So it is not for nothing that Ruto is viewed as leading HUSTLER NATION VS DYNASTIES; I have realised Dynasties are the ones truly obsessed with their entitlement. It is truly some ideological battle here.
Even RIGHT NOW, their attitude is "wacha watu waone who's Rais uone ata Kales wakiachana na Ruto..." Unfortunately these are fantasies but from people who are actually making decisions or have influences.
4. From where i sit, I submit that Uhuru's MAIN CONCERN is to protect their wealth and they view Ruto as simply not trustworthy (as some dangerous usurper). And therefore they get into alliance with Raila to neutralize Ruto and at the same time maneuver to still be in power. If all these fail: then Raila is more trustworthy in protecting their interests than Ruto. I know this seems strange but from associating with some of these people for the last few years, I am truly confident that's what's at the heart of all this.
It is like Moi who made people believe that he was always against Gema, but at the end he schemed to have Gema elite take over from him.
5. GM is being "promoted" and given visibility so as to "prepare Kalenjins into accepting GM as leader of Kales..", if not NOW then LATER such that by the time Uhuru/Raila are done with their PM/President combo, Ruto will be "finished..."
Yes I agree, selling Raila is crossing the redline, and Ruto should not worry about that. I also don't think Uhuru is into selling Raila. GEMA elite fears Raila more than GEMA laity.
So we still need to figure out the Uhuru gameplan here. If he is playing politics so he can bank as much money as possible before retiring - then Ruto has to avoid any confrontation with him. Give him enough time to rule and loot as he wish.
If the plan is to prop Gideon Moi - Ruto can go to bed and wake up as president 2yrs from now.
If the plan is to prop another GEMA or even Kalonzo - Ruto has to think about plan B that includes working with Raila. That plan is most dangerous because GEMA could finally listen to Uhuru.
If the plan is to amend the Katiba and ensure Uhuru remains as PORK - that won't happen - that nuclear civil war option
If it comes back as PM - that too is laughable -
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Let me summarize.
Raila is a package. Raila comes with his virulent angry supporters who feel they've been mistreated for so long. I don't think any of you understand that. Ruto may do this or that - but he will not incite the public against you. That is Raila power. Raila has automatons ready to do anything.
Raila will suffocate you - in one year - you'd wish you were not a Kenyan.
The fear against Raila is not irrational. It's very real. Raila will lead a revolution - in 5yrs - the rich will be poor - and poor even poorer.
Raila already sworn himself the people president - just imagine if he become the real president - he will basically take your land or incite the public to take it - you choose.
See how the man has CRUSHED dissidents in Nyanza and he is just opposition figure. Give Raila PORK power - and you'll see Magufuli 10 times. Even Nipate.org - you won't be able to write anything anti-goverment.
But like in 2007 - I am willing to support Raila - if GEMA wants some more lessons. GEMA arrogance and hubris had gone off the cliff before 2007 but if they still want some more lesson on humility - President Raila will deliver than in exactly six months.
Some thoughts and rumblings...
1. Am now disabused of the fact that Gema elite fear Raila that much. They used him as a political scarecrow but i have come to realize they don't fear Raila. They fear his UNPREDICTABILITY but they don't REALLY fear him. Unfortunately or fortunately their campaign to use Raila as scarecrow has been very successful such that Raila is just the MOST polarizing figure to market in Mt. Kenya Region.
2. Gema elite and hosts of others TRULY FEAR RUTO AS PRESIDENT. This I have learnt in the last two years. They truly fear Ruto as a dictator. They view him as a pretender and once he takes power he will go after them. AND TRULY TRULY this is at the HEART OF KENYATTA FAMILY FEAR. This i have learnt of late from top honchos. Equally Raila's own Mafia doesn't want Ruto as President. They equally say "haka kamtu will be the worst dictator.."
3. I have also realized for all the talk of demonizing Raila, NO ONE HAS TRIED TO REPOSSESS his wealth. Few years ago, yours truly had an opportunity to witness how some deal was being executed between Gemas who publicly insult Raila and his henchmen. For Ruto, these mafias are ready to "repossess his property" and "sources of his funds..." That says a lot. Incredibly they still don't believe Ruto has GENUINE POLITICAL SUPPORT. They still believe he "bought people off..." Same thing they have NEVER ACCEPTED THAT RUTO TOOK OVER KALENJIN NATION. They are like; who's Ruto? he just got lucky and lied to people that he is Samoei..." Or such talk. That is part of the reason they want to INSTALL GIDEON.
So it is not for nothing that Ruto is viewed as leading HUSTLER NATION VS DYNASTIES; I have realised Dynasties are the ones truly obsessed with their entitlement. It is truly some ideological battle here.
Even RIGHT NOW, their attitude is "wacha watu waone who's Rais uone ata Kales wakiachana na Ruto..." Unfortunately these are fantasies but from people who are actually making decisions or have influences.
4. From where i sit, I submit that Uhuru's MAIN CONCERN is to protect their wealth and they view Ruto as simply not trustworthy (as some dangerous usurper). And therefore they get into alliance with Raila to neutralize Ruto and at the same time maneuver to still be in power. If all these fail: then Raila is more trustworthy in protecting their interests than Ruto. I know this seems strange but from associating with some of these people for the last few years, I am truly confident that's what's at the heart of all this.
It is like Moi who made people believe that he was always against Gema, but at the end he schemed to have Gema elite take over from him.
5. GM is being "promoted" and given visibility so as to "prepare Kalenjins into accepting GM as leader of Kales..", if not NOW then LATER such that by the time Uhuru/Raila are done with their PM/President combo, Ruto will be "finished..."
Yes I agree, selling Raila is crossing the redline, and Ruto should not worry about that. I also don't think Uhuru is into selling Raila. GEMA elite fears Raila more than GEMA laity.
So we still need to figure out the Uhuru gameplan here. If he is playing politics so he can bank as much money as possible before retiring - then Ruto has to avoid any confrontation with him. Give him enough time to rule and loot as he wish.
If the plan is to prop Gideon Moi - Ruto can go to bed and wake up as president 2yrs from now.
If the plan is to prop another GEMA or even Kalonzo - Ruto has to think about plan B that includes working with Raila. That plan is most dangerous because GEMA could finally listen to Uhuru.
If the plan is to amend the Katiba and ensure Uhuru remains as PORK - that won't happen - that nuclear civil war option
If it comes back as PM - that too is laughable -
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We been singing this here: Ruto is more feared, loathed and distrusted by GEMA oligarchs than Raila. They (GEMA elites) are whipping the ground against the hustler slow but sure.
Some thoughts and rumblings...
1. Am now disabused of the fact that Gema elite fear Raila that much. They used him as a political scarecrow but i have come to realize they don't fear Raila. They fear his UNPREDICTABILITY but they don't REALLY fear him. Unfortunately or fortunately their campaign to use Raila as scarecrow has been very successful such that Raila is just the MOST polarizing figure to market in Mt. Kenya Region.
2. Gema elite and hosts of others TRULY FEAR RUTO AS PRESIDENT. This I have learnt in the last two years. They truly fear Ruto as a dictator. They view him as a pretender and once he takes power he will go after them. AND TRULY TRULY this is at the HEART OF KENYATTA FAMILY FEAR. This i have learnt of late from top honchos. Equally Raila's own Mafia doesn't want Ruto as President. They equally say "haka kamtu will be the worst dictator.."
3. I have also realized for all the talk of demonizing Raila, NO ONE HAS TRIED TO REPOSSESS his wealth. Few years ago, yours truly had an opportunity to witness how some deal was being executed between Gemas who publicly insult Raila and his henchmen. For Ruto, these mafias are ready to "repossess his property" and "sources of his funds..." That says a lot. Incredibly they still don't believe Ruto has GENUINE POLITICAL SUPPORT. They still believe he "bought people off..." Same thing they have NEVER ACCEPTED THAT RUTO TOOK OVER KALENJIN NATION. They are like; who's Ruto? he just got lucky and lied to people that he is Samoei..." Or such talk. That is part of the reason they want to INSTALL GIDEON.
So it is not for nothing that Ruto is viewed as leading HUSTLER NATION VS DYNASTIES; I have realised Dynasties are the ones truly obsessed with their entitlement. It is truly some ideological battle here.
Even RIGHT NOW, their attitude is "wacha watu waone who's Rais uone ata Kales wakiachana na Ruto..." Unfortunately these are fantasies but from people who are actually making decisions or have influences.
4. From where i sit, I submit that Uhuru's MAIN CONCERN is to protect their wealth and they view Ruto as simply not trustworthy (as some dangerous usurper). And therefore they get into alliance with Raila to neutralize Ruto and at the same time maneuver to still be in power. If all these fail: then Raila is more trustworthy in protecting their interests than Ruto. I know this seems strange but from associating with some of these people for the last few years, I am truly confident that's what's at the heart of all this.
It is like Moi who made people believe that he was always against Gema, but at the end he schemed to have Gema elite take over from him.
5. GM is being "promoted" and given visibility so as to "prepare Kalenjins into accepting GM as leader of Kales..", if not NOW then LATER such that by the time Uhuru/Raila are done with their PM/President combo, Ruto will be "finished..."
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Nonsense. What evidence backs your spin? The actions of Uhuru and GEMA oligarchs tells us who is loathed or distrusted. Only the regular Kamaus believe Raila is bad after years of demonizing. The machinery is ranged against Ruto now and he is the new Enemy of the State.
Let me summarize.
Raila is a package. Raila comes with his virulent angry supporters who feel they've been mistreated for so long. I don't think any of you understand that. Ruto may do this or that - but he will not incite the public against you. That is Raila power. Raila has automatons ready to do anything.
Raila will suffocate you - in one year - you'd wish you were not a Kenyan.
The fear against Raila is not irrational. It's very real. Raila will lead a revolution - in 5yrs - the rich will be poor - and poor even poorer.
Raila already sworn himself the people president - just imagine if he become the real president - he will basically take your land or incite the public to take it - you choose.
See how the man has CRUSHED dissidents in Nyanza and he is just opposition figure. Give Raila PORK power - and you'll see Magufuli 10 times. Even Nipate.org - you won't be able to write anything anti-goverment.
But like in 2007 - I am willing to support Raila - if GEMA wants some more lessons. GEMA arrogance and hubris had gone off the cliff before 2007 but if they still want some more lesson on humility - President Raila will deliver than in exactly six months.
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Ruto makelele crew whining... oppose GNU. Beg Uhuru to spare Ruto. Incoherently spin Uhurutopia and blame Raila for everything.
Ruto allies on wrangles in Jubilee
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Let me summarize.
Raila is a package. Raila comes with his virulent angry supporters who feel they've been mistreated for so long. I don't think any of you understand that. Ruto may do this or that - but he will not incite the public against you. That is Raila power. Raila has automatons ready to do anything.
:D So, which is it? We've heard from you that Ruto has 1 million warriors who will kill RV Gema and secede from Kenya if Ruto is not president. I remember for years you were laughing at Luo being only able to "throw stones" and not having real gumption for resistance, unlike Kalenjin who were bonafide warriors. U trying to spin the "fear Raila" card is therefore just funny, dude. Do Gema have to worry more over 1 million RV warriors or Raila automatons? Can't have it both ways.
Garliv is catching the plot. Of course any idiot knew Raila demonization were lies, they just held on to that strong Kenyan brew called "Mtu wetu." The guys in power fear Ruto for the same reasons I do, reasons Pundit played a major part in lodging in my brain, back when he thought there was no way Uhuru wouldn't back RVGema 50/50 deal. You guys were pushing for open abuse of power, had it in for the Supreme Court "after elections, when we have 2/3rds parliament, ngoja tu," were eager for police to kill Luos wantonly, just the other day were openly supporting corruption hadharani in a way even Moi knew not to do, and even wanted Raila to pay a personal price like jail out of vindictiveness.:D
If Ruto was as careless with his suggestions for going after the then enemy within Jubilee btw 2013-2017 as you were on nipate, he spooked enough people. Like he spooked Raila in 2007 when he wanted him to be sworn in by a judge in the middle of PEV. This class may abuse each other huku nje, but they know they won't really go after each other's necks. In fact, they fully expect to make new deals after elections. They never feared Raila would be 'vengeful', what rubbish Gema were sold. I mean, he was the one who said "Leave Mzee alone!" when NARC tried to get Moi summoned to the Goldenberg Commission. :D Even though Mzee had him jailed and tortured. If he ever had beef with anyone, wouldn't it be Moi? It was always lies most people in Kenya knew. But if Ruto talked like kina Pundit used to talk huko 'ndani,' he highlighted himself as the true threat; i.e., the guy no wants to possess the state machinery..
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Okay. These are just our opinion. Nipate has readership of 30 people. Don't make it life n death like Robina.
Let me summarize.
Raila is a package. Raila comes with his virulent angry supporters who feel they've been mistreated for so long. I don't think any of you understand that. Ruto may do this or that - but he will not incite the public against you. That is Raila power. Raila has automatons ready to do anything.
:D So, which is it? We've heard from you that Ruto has 1 million warriors who will kill RV Gema and cessede from Kenya if Ruto is not president. I remember for years you were laughing at Luo being only able to "throw stones" and not have real power to resist, unlike Kalenjin. U trying to spin the "fear Raila" card is therefore just funny, dude. Do Gema have to worry more over 1 million warriors or Raila automatons? Can't have it both ways.
Garliv is catching the plot. Of course any idiot knew Raila demonization were lies, they just held on to that strong Kenya brew called "Mtu wetu." The guys in power fear Ruto for the same reasons I do, reasons Pundit played a major part in lodging in my brain, back when he thought there was no way Uhuru wouldn't back RVGema 50/50 deal. You guys were pushing for open abuse of power, had it in for the Supreme Court "after elections, when we have 2/3rds parliament, ngoja tu" were eager for police to kill Luos wantonly, just the other day were openly supporting corruption hadharani in a way even Moi knew not to do, and even wanted Raila to pay a personal price like jail. :D If Ruto was as careless with his suggestions for going after the then enemy within Jubilee btw 2013-2017 as you were on nipate, he spooked enough people. Like he spooked Raila in 2007 when he wanted him to be sworn in by a judge in the middle of PEV.
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I personally am with you. 100%. Raila can dine with you and in afternoon he set all manners of propaganda and goons on you. To finish you completely. I have no doubt between Raila and Ruto, the former would without hesitation "rudisha mali ya umma" that Kenyatta grabbed. But that's me; Kenyattas have decided heri Raila.. Anyway, its said when gods want to destroy someone, they first make them mad... Kenyattas have gone bonkers..
But truth be told, those surrounding Uhuru and some more tenderpreneurs and conmen/women have since 2002 (When Raila was minister of Roads under NARC) doing deals with him plus when he as the PM Office (ask Miguna Miguna) that they view him as no longer a threat and part of grabbing elite. Watakula pamoja. And the rest of the stuffs wanasema like Michuki once commented that when unapiga siasa you can say anything.
Ruto support in Mt. Kenya is overwhelmingly grassroot. The support for Ruto is like fanatical following of Kenneth Matiba. And soon or later THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE WILL PREVAIL.
Let me summarize.
Raila is a package. Raila comes with his virulent angry supporters who feel they've been mistreated for so long. I don't think any of you understand that. Ruto may do this or that - but he will not incite the public against you. That is Raila power. Raila has automatons ready to do anything.
Raila will suffocate you - in one year - you'd wish you were not a Kenyan.
The fear against Raila is not irrational. It's very real. Raila will lead a revolution - in 5yrs - the rich will be poor - and poor even poorer.
Raila already sworn himself the people president - just imagine if he become the real president - he will basically take your land or incite the public to take it - you choose.
See how the man has CRUSHED dissidents in Nyanza and he is just opposition figure. Give Raila PORK power - and you'll see Magufuli 10 times. Even Nipate.org - you won't be able to write anything anti-goverment.
But like in 2007 - I am willing to support Raila - if GEMA wants some more lessons. GEMA arrogance and hubris had gone off the cliff before 2007 but if they still want some more lesson on humility - President Raila will deliver than in exactly six months.
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I don't think GEMA elite are that stupid. They know Raila and they know what they have done to Raila and Luos. I don't buy it. So I think there are other cards being played here. Raila is just being used. If they trust Raila - he should be inside gov tent-like really inside like Ruto was.
There are two serious choices for 2022 - Raila or Ruto. GEMA can bring in one of their own or promote Kalonzo or Gideon Moi - if they fear Raila or Ruto.
Ruto has grassroots support - but without a man to rally that support around - it will be hard to sustain it. He badly need Kiunjuri or someone to step up. It could even be 30yr old - but basically the revolution need a leader.
I personally am with you. 100%. Raila can dine with you and in afternoon he set all manners of propaganda and goons on you. To finish you completely. I have no doubt between Raila and Ruto, the former would without hesitation "rudisha mali ya umma" that Kenyatta grabbed. But that's me; Kenyattas have decided heri Raila.. Anyway, its said when gods want to destroy someone, they first make them mad... Kenyattas have gone bonkers..
But truth be told, those surrounding Uhuru and some more tenderpreneurs and conmen/women have since 2002 (When Raila was minister of Roads under NARC) doing deals with him plus when he as the PM Office (ask Miguna Miguna) that they view him as no longer a threat and part of grabbing elite. Watakula pamoja. And the rest of the stuffs wanasema like Michuki once commented that when unapiga siasa you can say anything.
Ruto support in Mt. Kenya is overwhelmingly grassroot. The support for Ruto is like fanatical following of Kenneth Matiba. And soon or later THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE WILL PREVAIL.
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I submit that Ruto support is actually HIS OWN support. He may have someone or not, but Ruto support is constant in Gema unless a HUGE SCREW UP happens somewhere. Is it not really incredible that GEMA does not need anyone else to "sell Ruto to them.." He already won hearts and minds of grassroot. Even if Uhuru was trying to "introduce/sell Ruto" in Gemaland, he'd be laughed out of Gatundu. He would be told "huyu tunamjua..." It is one of the "revolutionary happenings" taking place in Kenya.
If someone had said that Gema would actually abandon Uhuru and even insult him, no one would have believed... But today speak for itself..
For Gema elite; its mostly those who have been following and encircling Uhuru. Those are dumb type like Nancy, Murathe and few other wazees who have no balls to "tell the President" how things truly are. And Uhuru is doing it out of his own and family conviction. These i now know for sure. Like Nancy is sheer fear of Ruto. Remember they have had issues to do with ICC? So you can imagine what they think Ruto would do to them when he takes over.
NB: PEOPLE CAN BE DUMB; pretty dumb. So don't doubt thinking people can "see what you see" as obvious..
In Mt. Kenya we truly need a Leader to take over. That's not in doubt. Most are timid. And akina Kiunjuri while not bad, they are yet to meet threshold of being truly Mt. Kenya leader. Others were promising like Sweetie Waiguru but it didn't last long; she proved not worthy. Someone is needed. That's why Ruto has been adopted until Gema sort themselves out. And people are happy with that.
I don't think GEMA elite are that stupid. They know Raila and they know what they have done to Raila and Luos. I don't buy it. So I think there are other cards being played here. Raila is just being used. If they trust Raila - he should be inside gov tent-like really inside like Ruto was.
There are two serious choices for 2022 - Raila or Ruto. GEMA can bring in one of their own or promote Kalonzo or Gideon Moi - if they fear Raila or Ruto.
Ruto has grassroots support - but without a man to rally that support around - it will be hard to sustain it. He badly need Kiunjuri or someone to step up. It could even be 30yr old - but basically the revolution need a leader.
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Ruto is now officially an outsider. I used to be one of those who were naïve enough to believe that one could come from the outside and win the presidency of Kenya like Kibaki did in 2002. After Raila won the 2007, the 2013 and the 2017 , I am much more cynical. Ruto should know better after participating in the stealing of the 2013 and 2017 votes.
Like Bitsmak told you...there are 2 camps here. Those who believe Kenyan elections are won and those like us who knows it's a big sham. The insiders with western help calls the shots.
FOR MT. KENYA: Just like Uhuru has been confused, frustrated and simply angry that Mt. Kenya had shifted to Ruto, so it is the same. He tried shouting and insults, then intimidation, then jonny come lately offers on coffee/tea/miraa prices but it didn't cut. Nothing has shifted. I am on the ground and the attitude is that "wacha wafanye venye wanataka na sisi time yetu inakuja.." Meaning let Uhuru go on rampage like a madman and do what he feels like, but the ground is not with him. Even matatu touts say "Uhuru ako na utoto mingi sana.. ni bangi..."
Ask Njuri Ncheke on Meru feelings. Ask Plato on his Limuru constituents.
Even if Ruto is not around, people are done with Uhuru. No one can stomach another Uhuru term. Ata heri Raila reigns but Uhuru time is over and he didn't impress. We just have to survive this Uhuru's psychotic episode.
i think it’s the present participle.... the ground is shifting right now.
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The grassroots will eventually force Uhuru to negotiate with Ruto - if he smart - otherwise a new leader will fill that void. GEMA is crying out for leadership. Even 30yr old like Kiharu Mp can fill it now.
The problem is telling people on their faces that they don't matter - that you have deep state or power or etc - and you don't even attempt to convince them or sell them that future.
I submit that Ruto support is actually HIS OWN support. He may have someone or not, but Ruto support is constant in Gema unless a HUGE SCREW UP happens somewhere. Is it not really incredible that GEMA does not need anyone else to "sell Ruto to them.." He already won hearts and minds of grassroot. Even if Uhuru was trying to "introduce/sell Ruto" in Gemaland, he'd be laughed out of Gatundu. He would be told "huyu tunamjua..." It is one of the "revolutionary happenings" taking place in Kenya.
If someone had said that Gema would actually abandon Uhuru and even insult him, no one would have believed... But today speak for itself..
For Gema elite; its mostly those who have been following and encircling Uhuru. Those are dumb type like Nancy, Murathe and few other wazees who have no balls to "tell the President" how things truly are. And Uhuru is doing it out of his own and family conviction. These i now know for sure. Like Nancy is sheer fear of Ruto. Remember they have had issues to do with ICC? So you can imagine what they think Ruto would do to them when he takes over.
NB: PEOPLE CAN BE DUMB; pretty dumb. So don't doubt thinking people can "see what you see" as obvious..
In Mt. Kenya we truly need a Leader to take over. That's not in doubt. Most are timid. And akina Kiunjuri while not bad, they are yet to meet threshold of being truly Mt. Kenya leader. Others were promising like Sweetie Waiguru but it didn't last long; she proved not worthy. Someone is needed. That's why Ruto has been adopted until Gema sort themselves out. And people are happy with that.
I don't think GEMA elite are that stupid. They know Raila and they know what they have done to Raila and Luos. I don't buy it. So I think there are other cards being played here. Raila is just being used. If they trust Raila - he should be inside gov tent-like really inside like Ruto was.
There are two serious choices for 2022 - Raila or Ruto. GEMA can bring in one of their own or promote Kalonzo or Gideon Moi - if they fear Raila or Ruto.
Ruto has grassroots support - but without a man to rally that support around - it will be hard to sustain it. He badly need Kiunjuri or someone to step up. It could even be 30yr old - but basically the revolution need a leader.
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No my friend. MOAS predicted Raila would lose 2013 and 2017. It predicted Raila would win 2007 with 45% against 43%. Kenya politics is not rocket science - it tribal maths. Many other tribal MOAS predicted 2017 election to the dot...including one by some Prof in Ireland.
NASA - you need to lick your wounds and face reality.
If elections are stolen like 2007 - it become very apparent to see - the Mps, MCAS, name it - won't tally.
Uhuru won 2013 and 2017 clean clean clean.
Anybody who has studied kenya tribal politics like Prof Hornby and Prof Cheeseman came with same conclusion long before one single vote was cast.
https://www.theelephant.info/features/2017/08/05/the-end-of-the-line-predicting-kenyas-vote-on-august/
Ruto is now officially an outsider. I used to be one of those who were naïve enough to believe that one could come from the outside and win the presidency of Kenya like Kibaki did in 2002. After Raila won the 2007, the 2013 and the 2017 , I am much more cynical. Ruto should know better after participating in the stealing of the 2013 and 2017 votes.
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Ruto is now officially an outsider. I used to be one of those who were naïve enough to believe that one could come from the outside and win the presidency of Kenya like Kibaki did in 2002. After Raila won the 2007, the 2013 and the 2017 , I am much more cynical. Ruto should know better after participating in the stealing of the 2013 and 2017 votes.
Like Bitsmak told you...there are 2 camps here. Those who believe Kenyan elections are won and those like us who knows it's a big sham. The insiders with western help calls the shots.
FOR MT. KENYA: Just like Uhuru has been confused, frustrated and simply angry that Mt. Kenya had shifted to Ruto, so it is the same. He tried shouting and insults, then intimidation, then jonny come lately offers on coffee/tea/miraa prices but it didn't cut. Nothing has shifted. I am on the ground and the attitude is that "wacha wafanye venye wanataka na sisi time yetu inakuja.." Meaning let Uhuru go on rampage like a madman and do what he feels like, but the ground is not with him. Even matatu touts say "Uhuru ako na utoto mingi sana.. ni bangi..."
Ask Njuri Ncheke on Meru feelings. Ask Plato on his Limuru constituents.
Even if Ruto is not around, people are done with Uhuru. No one can stomach another Uhuru term. Ata heri Raila reigns but Uhuru time is over and he didn't impress. We just have to survive this Uhuru's psychotic episode.
i think it’s the present participle.... the ground is shifting right now.
Even if he doesn't know, it is knowable. Jubilee wins, the server is opened, even when nobody is interested. Jubilee does not win, server is remains unopened, even with a court order. Looked at in that light kamwana(interested in protecting his wealth) is doing what any rational person would do.
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Very true about swimming against machinery gravity. Isitoshe, it is a LIE that Ruto has ground support in GEMA. They had warmed up to him in Jubilee 1.0 and he has toiled overtime to maintain the Uhurutopia charade. Why does he grovel before Uhuru who kicks dust into his eyes? Obviously it’s nonsense that Uhuru is scorned while Ruto is loved - yet the wildly popular guy worships the loathed. :o It’s like Matiba worshipping JJ Kamotho :) - or bitmask’s up is down theory. What stops Ruto being followed “fanatically” in Luhya, Gusii, Mijikenda, etc where he held as many tours and fundraisers?
Even now with all pretense at bromance dead, Sudis and Kalenjin elders are still calling for reconciliation. Tafakari hayo.
Ruto is now officially an outsider. I used to be one of those who were naïve enough to believe that one could come from the outside and win the presidency of Kenya like Kibaki did in 2002. After Raila won the 2007, the 2013 and the 2017 , I am much more cynical. Ruto should know better after participating in the stealing of the 2013 and 2017 votes.
Like Bitsmak told you...there are 2 camps here. Those who believe Kenyan elections are won and those like us who knows it's a big sham. The insiders with western help calls the shots.
FOR MT. KENYA: Just like Uhuru has been confused, frustrated and simply angry that Mt. Kenya had shifted to Ruto, so it is the same. He tried shouting and insults, then intimidation, then jonny come lately offers on coffee/tea/miraa prices but it didn't cut. Nothing has shifted. I am on the ground and the attitude is that "wacha wafanye venye wanataka na sisi time yetu inakuja.." Meaning let Uhuru go on rampage like a madman and do what he feels like, but the ground is not with him. Even matatu touts say "Uhuru ako na utoto mingi sana.. ni bangi..."
Ask Njuri Ncheke on Meru feelings. Ask Plato on his Limuru constituents.
Even if Ruto is not around, people are done with Uhuru. No one can stomach another Uhuru term. Ata heri Raila reigns but Uhuru time is over and he didn't impress. We just have to survive this Uhuru's psychotic episode.
i think it’s the present participle.... the ground is shifting right now.
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Party tribunal rejects bid to revoke Jubilee NMC changes
https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2020-05-21-tribunal-throws-out-kihika-kositany-bid-to-revoke-jubilee-nmc-changes/
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And we are fast approaching that point. All senior politicians and Governors understand "should the ground not shift as we approach 2022" they MUST declare where they stand. This is well known fact. UNLESS THEY FORCE CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENTS IN TIME, I predict what we stated few weeks ago that "as we approach 2022 MOST IF NOT ALL POLITICIANS who wants to be elected will abandon Uhuru/Raila...
Buying time is the key; though the current scheme is to FORCE MPs AND SENATORS TO BACK BBI REPORT/BILL once it is tabled. And hence the urgency to get rid of akina Kihika, Kindiki, Murkomen and anyone else who won't toe the line. I have a feeling it will be a total fiasco when Lusaka and Muturi will DECLARE requisite numbers have been met o advance those change katiba bills.
The grassroots will eventually force Uhuru to negotiate with Ruto - if he smart - otherwise a new leader will fill that void. GEMA is crying out for leadership. Even 30yr old like Kiharu Mp can fill it now.
The problem is telling people on their faces that they don't matter - that you have deep state or power or etc - and you don't even attempt to convince them or sell them that future.
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If you really think about it, world over, all constitutional Amendments or any radical or revolutionary changes, are forced on to some of the people who oppose it. There is no change that is acceptable 100% and if you wait for a 100% consensus, you will never make any change, good or bad. Ruto was trying to force a kikuyu/Kalenjin dominance over all Kenyans for supposedly 100 years. The methods he used to do that were not democratic. He killed the likes of Msando and stole Billions of Kenya shillings to achieve that goal. Now he wants to play the innocent victim. Abraham Lincoln forced the Southern states to stop their cruel and inhuman slave practices. Gema and Kalenjins who believe that they can rule Kenya amongst themselves like Ruto and the Tangatanga group will be forced to accept an inclusive form of government by forcing the BBI down their throats if neccessary. Sometimes good things must be done by force.
And we are fast approaching that point. All senior politicians and Governors understand "should the ground not shift as we approach 2022" they MUST declare where they stand. This is well known fact. UNLESS THEY FORCE CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENTS IN TIME, I predict what we stated few weeks ago that "as we approach 2022 MOST IF NOT ALL POLITICIANS who wants to be elected will abandon Uhuru/Raila...
Buying time is the key; though the current scheme is to FORCE MPs AND SENATORS TO BACK BBI REPORT/BILL once it is tabled. And hence the urgency to get rid of akina Kihika, Kindiki, Murkomen and anyone else who won't toe the line. I have a feeling it will be a total fiasco when Lusaka and Muturi will DECLARE requisite numbers have been met o advance those change katiba bills.
The grassroots will eventually force Uhuru to negotiate with Ruto - if he smart - otherwise a new leader will fill that void. GEMA is crying out for leadership. Even 30yr old like Kiharu Mp can fill it now.
The problem is telling people on their faces that they don't matter - that you have deep state or power or etc - and you don't even attempt to convince them or sell them that future.
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Let have BBI report out - then we can see. Some changes require a referendum. There are no two ways about it. 2010 changed the gameplan. What parliament can alter is basic stuff...but to change the katiba..many sections are protected from being messed around by parliament - like it has been done previously.
That is why 2010 Katiba remained unchanged. The previous one was killed by Kenyatta Snr within a few months.
And we are fast approaching that point. All senior politicians and Governors understand "should the ground not shift as we approach 2022" they MUST declare where they stand. This is well known fact. UNLESS THEY FORCE CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENTS IN TIME, I predict what we stated few weeks ago that "as we approach 2022 MOST IF NOT ALL POLITICIANS who wants to be elected will abandon Uhuru/Raila...
Buying time is the key; though the current scheme is to FORCE MPs AND SENATORS TO BACK BBI REPORT/BILL once it is tabled. And hence the urgency to get rid of akina Kihika, Kindiki, Murkomen and anyone else who won't toe the line. I have a feeling it will be a total fiasco when Lusaka and Muturi will DECLARE requisite numbers have been met o advance those change katiba bills.
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1. Hustler is not really out of cards. But best thing would be stay low and buy as much time as possible.
2. I will state again, Mt. Kenya is not supporting Ruto because of THREATS. We are not there. You may not believe it or not, but Mt. Kenya's Miserables are with Ruto BECAUSE THEY DO NOT KNOW WHY THEY HAVE TO ABANDON 2013/2017 AGREEMENT of supporting Ruto for President. Also they equally do not why Uhuru want to be back in power together with Raila. In other words, given all the current political choices Mt. Kenya prefer Jubilee Deal.
3. Yes, Uhuru has support of NASA. But it is a bit complicated than you think. First, MaDvD already declared he doesn't want to be part of any coalition with Jubilee. Kalonzo too want something "credible to show his people its worth it!" Only Raila/ODM are very happy because Uhuru/Raila are now joined at the hip sustain their Dynasties in power. But even within ODM, the question is; IF THEY JOIN GOVERNMENT, WHO WILL BE MINORITY LEADER IN SENATE AND OR NATIONAL ASSEMBLY. Constitutionally you cannot be in government at the same time you are Minority Leader.
4. For BBI, even you must admit that it was designed to keep Ruto out. It was a lie that it would unite while all along was a scheme by Raila/Uhuru to maintain power and kick out Ruto. Remember Bomas of Kenya during launch of its Report? They showed the whole country publicly THAT RUTO WAS OUT. Even to the extent of locking him from entering a meeting! And yet you claim it's for BUILDING BRIDGES FOR EVERYONE? PLS. BBI is now just another name for political schemes.
The hustler is apparently out of cards. Maybe he has 1 million hostages. But, supposing that is even a thing, how do you play the hostage card when everybody is talking unity? You play right into the BBI playbook. I saw his attack dogs saying they will work with serikali. It's pretty shocking how the tables have turned *SMDH*.
I don't know what the final game plan is(apart from hustler is not in it), but if kamwana has the goodwill of NASA honchos, there is really nothing to stop them from getting certain shit done, including even postponing elections until things are in place.
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BBI is just a vehicle. What needs to be destroyed is the "tyranny of rigged numbers" by a certain segment of Gema and Kalnjin politicians whose dream is to dominate the politics of Kenya while treating others as 2nd class citizens. I'd rather be ruled by dynasties than tribal chauvinistic.
Let have BBI report out - then we can see. Some changes require a referendum. There are no two ways about it. 2010 changed the gameplan. What parliament can alter is basic stuff...but to change the katiba..many sections are protected from being messed around by parliament - like it has been done previously.
That is why 2010 Katiba remained unchanged. The previous one was killed by Kenyatta Snr within a few months.
And we are fast approaching that point. All senior politicians and Governors understand "should the ground not shift as we approach 2022" they MUST declare where they stand. This is well known fact. UNLESS THEY FORCE CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENTS IN TIME, I predict what we stated few weeks ago that "as we approach 2022 MOST IF NOT ALL POLITICIANS who wants to be elected will abandon Uhuru/Raila...
Buying time is the key; though the current scheme is to FORCE MPs AND SENATORS TO BACK BBI REPORT/BILL once it is tabled. And hence the urgency to get rid of akina Kihika, Kindiki, Murkomen and anyone else who won't toe the line. I have a feeling it will be a total fiasco when Lusaka and Muturi will DECLARE requisite numbers have been met o advance those change katiba bills.
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Hustler, is being disarmed systematically and gradually so that none of the nuclear weapons he was armed with is detonated intentionally or by accident. He will be left with a few arrows in his quiver to shoot but the nuclear weapons will have been taken away safely. When he only has arrows left, I am sure he will go down shooting a few.
1. Hustler is not really out of cards. But best thing would be stay low and buy as much time as possible.
2. I will state again, Mt. Kenya is not supporting Ruto because of THREATS. We are not there. You may not believe it or not, but Mt. Kenya's Miserables are with Ruto BECAUSE THEY DO NOT KNOW WHY THEY HAVE TO ABANDON 2013/2017 AGREEMENT of supporting Ruto for President. Also they equally do not why Uhuru want to be back in power together with Raila. In other words, given all the current political choices Mt. Kenya prefer Jubilee Deal.
3. Yes, Uhuru has support of NASA. But it is a bit complicated than you think. First, MaDvD already declared he doesn't want to be part of any coalition with Jubilee. Kalonzo too want something "credible to show his people its worth it!" Only Raila/ODM are very happy because Uhuru/Raila are now joined at the hip sustain their Dynasties in power. But even within ODM, the question is; IF THEY JOIN GOVERNMENT, WHO WILL BE MINORITY LEADER IN SENATE AND OR NATIONAL ASSEMBLY. Constitutionally you cannot be in government at the same time you are Minority Leader.
4. For BBI, even you must admit that it was designed to keep Ruto out. It was a lie that it would unite while all along was a scheme by Raila/Uhuru to maintain power and kick out Ruto. Remember Bomas of Kenya during launch of its Report? They showed the whole country publicly THAT RUTO WAS OUT. Even to the extent of locking him from entering a meeting! And yet you claim it's for BUILDING BRIDGES FOR EVERYONE? PLS. BBI is now just another name for political schemes.
The hustler is apparently out of cards. Maybe he has 1 million hostages. But, supposing that is even a thing, how do you play the hostage card when everybody is talking unity? You play right into the BBI playbook. I saw his attack dogs saying they will work with serikali. It's pretty shocking how the tables have turned *SMDH*.
I don't know what the final game plan is(apart from hustler is not in it), but if kamwana has the goodwill of NASA honchos, there is really nothing to stop them from getting certain shit done, including even postponing elections until things are in place.
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In a few days we will see the imaginary grassroots GEMA Ruto has.. as one or two Tangatanga hecklers are recalled. With fanatical ground support recall should be impossible, no? Unless, of course, Uhuru forges voter signatures :)