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Title: Political parties tribunal put a little spanner on road
Post by: RV Pundit on May 12, 2020, 01:40:05 PM
Uhuru will have to do a lot of intimidation, bribery, and killings to get his way in the next few years.

https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2020-05-12-political-parties-dispute-tribunal-halts-jubilee-kanu-agreement/4
Title: Re: Political parties tribunal put a little spanner on road
Post by: Njuri Ncheke on May 12, 2020, 01:44:00 PM
After seeing how Lusaka has coldy turned down arguments nimeshangaa sana waluhya they are very easily manipulated no wonder with 2 largest population they cant  come close to pork
Title: Re: Political parties tribunal put a little spanner on road
Post by: RV Pundit on May 12, 2020, 01:47:27 PM
What did Lusaka do..I thought he was MIA - yeah you cannot go to war with Kadudu or Wakamba - that is well known in Kenya streets. It reason both are favored by Muhindi. You plan against muhindi and he will rat you.

I thought Kindiki told them not to bring newspapers.

After seeing how Lusaka has coldy turned down arguments nimeshangaa sana waluhya they are very easily manipulated no wonder with 2 largest population they cant  come close to pork
Title: Re: Political parties tribunal put a little spanner on road
Post by: RV Pundit on May 12, 2020, 01:57:14 PM
I see Lusaka already approved
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Title: Re: Political parties tribunal put a little spanner on road
Post by: Njuri Ncheke on May 12, 2020, 02:03:33 PM
You can't count on mulembe when bullet are buzzing, timid people and don't forget he was Rutos point man in western . So now who carries the day, Lusaka or the tribunal?
Title: Re: Political parties tribunal put a little spanner on road
Post by: RV Pundit on May 12, 2020, 02:31:04 PM
I am not sure why they are fighting over Jubilee - unless there was possibility of UhuRuto happening again. They need to leave Uhuru to Jubilee and move en-masse to a new party. We have exactly two years to 2022. There is is COVID-19 that has basically slashed any development budget this year...so this gov is already crippled. It will soon even struggle to pay salaries and pensions..leave alone debts. So Ruto need to go full speed on this....and pray there is even a constitutional referendum...so he knows just how bad this is...and he can approach 2022 knowing what is possible and impossible. He is no longer the front-runner. That position has switched to Raila as of today. Uhuru has also weaken himself and now depend on Raila goodwill to survive.
You can't count on mulembe when bullet are buzzing, timid people and don't forget he was Rutos point man in western . So now who carries the day, Lusaka or the tribunal?
Title: Re: Political parties tribunal put a little spanner on road
Post by: Njuri Ncheke on May 12, 2020, 02:42:18 PM
Fully agreed as of now Raira is front runner, what deal will he cut with raila? Raila certainly will want to settle the score with uhuru for the past, this makes uhurus position very weak, but uhuru knowing him wants still to play raira but this is where Ruto needs to undercut him, No problem Ruto can endorse baba for pork with him as still DP or back referendum he goes for PM. Ruto needs to UNDERCUT the drunkard i have a very a strong feeling Ruto will have last laugh, i dont mind now going back to 42vs1 ODM Uhuru has made a pact with the devil and he will face full consequences. Look at it this way what would make Kenyans very happy? Its  GEMA being in opposition for once.
Title: Re: Political parties tribunal put a little spanner on road
Post by: RV Pundit on May 12, 2020, 03:12:51 PM
Uhuru is playing poker with GEMA now. It could go so wrong like 2007. Ruto has to try to cause gema revolt - and if not - then he needs to cut a deal. Deal cutting will happen late. Now is time to start the hustle movement and try to cause a revolt in GEMA - rich versus poor kind of thing worked against Moi in rift valley - and Ruto first deployed it in Sugoi when he was running against Chesire in Eldoret North.
Fully agreed as of now Raira is front runner, what deal will he cut with raila? Raila certainly will want to settle the score with uhuru for the past, this makes uhurus position very weak, but uhuru knowing him wants still to play raira but this is where Ruto needs to undercut him, No problem Ruto can endorse baba for pork with him as still DP or back referendum he goes for PM. Ruto needs to UNDERCUT the drunkard i have a very a strong feeling Ruto will have last laugh, i dont mind now going back to 42vs1 ODM Uhuru has made a pact with the devil and he will face full consequences. Look at it this way what would make Kenyans very happy? Its  GEMA being in opposition for once.
Title: Re: Political parties tribunal put a little spanner on road
Post by: Njuri Ncheke on May 12, 2020, 04:10:08 PM
Uhuru is dumb does it mean from now he will rely on ODM mps to push through his resolutions in parliament? The fool has put himself at a very weak position does he expect raira to rubber stamp all his wishes after this move? #Bhangimbaya
Title: Re: Political parties tribunal put a little spanner on road
Post by: Kichwa on May 12, 2020, 04:10:27 PM
Wishful thinking  The deal with Raila and our neo colonial benefactors was already cut.  This is the timed peace meal  implementations of a formulae for  more inclusive and therefore stable political environment conducive for development and prosperity. Only Ruto and his close allies are being kicked out and not Kalenjins.  Once Ruto's toxic divisive politics is put to rest, Kalenjins will be back in the fold as a less partisan and hire-wire tribal politics is put to rest.  Everyone agrees that other than the chest thumping politics of Tanga Tanaga, Kenya despite its economic problems, has experienced an unusual stable political stability without Ruto's hate-filled and tribally devisive politics. He will have to stand down, otherwise if he tries something stupid they will lock up his ass.  The arrangement between Raila and Ouru was brockered by very powerful forces and Ruto needs to realize that he cannot go against it and emerge as the winner.

Fully agreed as of now Raira is front runner, what deal will he cut with raila? Raila certainly will want to settle the score with uhuru for the past, this makes uhurus position very weak, but uhuru knowing him wants still to play raira but this is where Ruto needs to undercut him, No problem Ruto can endorse baba for pork with him as still DP or back referendum he goes for PM. Ruto needs to UNDERCUT the drunkard i have a very a strong feeling Ruto will have last laugh, i dont mind now going back to 42vs1 ODM Uhuru has made a pact with the devil and he will face full consequences. Look at it this way what would make Kenyans very happy? Its  GEMA being in opposition for once.
Title: Re: Political parties tribunal put a little spanner on road
Post by: RV Pundit on May 12, 2020, 04:14:25 PM
Yes - it called cutting your nose to spit at your face. Now he is basically Raila biatch. This is politics 101 in kenya.
Uhuru is dumb does it mean from now he will rely on ODM mps to push through his resolutions in parliament? The fool has put himself at a very weak position does he expect raira to rubber stamp all his wishes after this move? #Bhangimbaya
Title: Re: Political parties tribunal put a little spanner on road
Post by: Njuri Ncheke on May 12, 2020, 04:14:49 PM
Wishful thinking  The deal with Raila and our neo colonial benefactors was already cut.  This is the timed peace meal  implementations of a formulae for  more inclusive and therefore stable political environment conducive for development and prosperity. Only Ruto and his close allies are being kicked out and not Kalenjins.  Once Ruto's toxic divisive politics is put to rest, Kalenjins will be back in the fold as a less partisan and hire-wire tribal politics is put to rest.  Everyone agrees that other than the chest thumping politics of Tanga Tanaga, Kenya despite its economic problems, has experienced an unusual stable political stability without Ruto's hate-filled and tribally devisive politics. He will have to stand down, otherwise if he tries something stupid they will lock up his ass.  The arrangement between Raila and Ouru was brockered by very powerful forces and Ruto needs to realize that he cannot go against it and emerge as the winner.

Fully agreed as of now Raira is front runner, what deal will he cut with raila? Raila certainly will want to settle the score with uhuru for the past, this makes uhurus position very weak, but uhuru knowing him wants still to play raira but this is where Ruto needs to undercut him, No problem Ruto can endorse baba for pork with him as still DP or back referendum he goes for PM. Ruto needs to UNDERCUT the drunkard i have a very a strong feeling Ruto will have last laugh, i dont mind now going back to 42vs1 ODM Uhuru has made a pact with the devil and he will face full consequences. Look at it this way what would make Kenyans very happy? Its  GEMA being in opposition for once.
You need your head recalibrated as now its upside down. Eti deal has been cut by powerful forces? The only powerful forces in Kenya are GEMA/Kalenjin masses. Eti lock Ruto up? IfRaila has never been locked up even after committing treason numerous times whim do youthink has the balls even to think that, you are under estimating what Ruto has in capabilities.
Title: Re: Political parties tribunal put a little spanner on road
Post by: RV Pundit on May 12, 2020, 04:15:38 PM
Kichwa you're back :) hahahaha. Welcome abroad.  This arrangement was brokered by powerful forces :)
Wishful thinking  The deal with Raila and our neo colonial benefactors was already cut.  This is the timed peace meal  implementations of a formulae for  more inclusive and therefore stable political environment conducive for development and prosperity. Only Ruto and his close allies are being kicked out and not Kalenjins.  Once Ruto's toxic divisive politics is put to rest, Kalenjins will be back in the fold as a less partisan and hire-wire tribal politics is put to rest.  Everyone agrees that other than the chest thumping politics of Tanga Tanaga, Kenya despite its economic problems, has experienced an unusual stable political stability without Ruto's hate-filled and tribally devisive politics. He will have to stand down, otherwise if he tries something stupid they will lock up his ass.  The arrangement between Raila and Ouru was brockered by very powerful forces and Ruto needs to realize that he cannot go against it and emerge as the winner.

Fully agreed as of now Raira is front runner, what deal will he cut with raila? Raila certainly will want to settle the score with uhuru for the past, this makes uhurus position very weak, but uhuru knowing him wants still to play raira but this is where Ruto needs to undercut him, No problem Ruto can endorse baba for pork with him as still DP or back referendum he goes for PM. Ruto needs to UNDERCUT the drunkard i have a very a strong feeling Ruto will have last laugh, i dont mind now going back to 42vs1 ODM Uhuru has made a pact with the devil and he will face full consequences. Look at it this way what would make Kenyans very happy? Its  GEMA being in opposition for once.
Title: Re: Political parties tribunal put a little spanner on road
Post by: RV Pundit on May 12, 2020, 04:17:15 PM
It kichwa-talk. It will get very tiring. He uses to say that before 2013 white-wash. At least we are not dealing with Robina alone. Now all ODMs are going to crawl back and continue where they left. Omollo is coming online soon.
You need your head recalibrated as now its upside down. Eti deal has been cut by powerful forces? The only powerful forces in Kenya are GEMA/Kalenjin masses. Eti lock Ruto up? IfRaila has never been locked up even after committing treason numerous times whim do youthink has the balls even to think that, you are under estimating what Ruto has in capabilities.
Title: Re: Political parties tribunal put a little spanner on road
Post by: patel on May 12, 2020, 04:25:27 PM
Uhuru seems determined to finish Ruto and prop Gedion. Uhuru has taken over Senate. Next parliament once that is complete Ruto impeachment. Kenya politics is very predictable.
Uhuru is playing poker with GEMA now. It could go so wrong like 2007. Ruto has to try to cause gema revolt - and if not - then he needs to cut a deal. Deal cutting will happen late. Now is time to start the hustle movement and try to cause a revolt in GEMA - rich versus poor kind of thing worked against Moi in rift valley - and Ruto first deployed it in Sugoi when he was running against Chesire in Eldoret North.
Fully agreed as of now Raira is front runner, what deal will he cut with raila? Raila certainly will want to settle the score with uhuru for the past, this makes uhurus position very weak, but uhuru knowing him wants still to play raira but this is where Ruto needs to undercut him, No problem Ruto can endorse baba for pork with him as still DP or back referendum he goes for PM. Ruto needs to UNDERCUT the drunkard i have a very a strong feeling Ruto will have last laugh, i dont mind now going back to 42vs1 ODM Uhuru has made a pact with the devil and he will face full consequences. Look at it this way what would make Kenyans very happy? Its  GEMA being in opposition for once.
Title: Re: Political parties tribunal put a little spanner on road
Post by: RV Pundit on May 12, 2020, 04:28:08 PM
Gideon has no cattle. He has two senators and maybe 2mps. And he doesn't even enjoy the support of Tugens. You cannot prop such a useless person. He is just a stop-gap - otherwise, if the war goes on - Uhuru needs Raila. But knowing Uhuru - he will try Kalonzo and MaDVD first. Raila is a heavy hitter - and will make heavy demands.
Uhuru seems determined to finish Ruto and prop Gedion. Uhuru has taken over Senate. Next parliament once that is complete Ruto impeachment. Kenya politics is very predictable.
Title: Re: Political parties tribunal put a little spanner on road
Post by: Kichwa on May 12, 2020, 04:36:29 PM
You should talk. As recently as two days ago you were talking about an elaborate clandestine plot by Ruto and Ouru against Raila despite being told to wake up and smell the proverbial coffee.

It kichwa-talk. It will get very tiring. He uses to say that before 2013 white-wash. At least we are not dealing with Robina alone. Now all ODMs are going to crawl back and continue where they left. Omollo is coming online soon.
You need your head recalibrated as now its upside down. Eti deal has been cut by powerful forces? The only powerful forces in Kenya are GEMA/Kalenjin masses. Eti lock Ruto up? IfRaila has never been locked up even after committing treason numerous times whim do youthink has the balls even to think that, you are under estimating what Ruto has in capabilities.
Title: Re: Political parties tribunal put a little spanner on road
Post by: Kichwa on May 12, 2020, 04:37:39 PM
This is not dot com my friend.  Those days are gone.

Wishful thinking  The deal with Raila and our neo colonial benefactors was already cut.  This is the timed peace meal  implementations of a formulae for  more inclusive and therefore stable political environment conducive for development and prosperity. Only Ruto and his close allies are being kicked out and not Kalenjins.  Once Ruto's toxic divisive politics is put to rest, Kalenjins will be back in the fold as a less partisan and hire-wire tribal politics is put to rest.  Everyone agrees that other than the chest thumping politics of Tanga Tanaga, Kenya despite its economic problems, has experienced an unusual stable political stability without Ruto's hate-filled and tribally devisive politics. He will have to stand down, otherwise if he tries something stupid they will lock up his ass.  The arrangement between Raila and Ouru was brockered by very powerful forces and Ruto needs to realize that he cannot go against it and emerge as the winner.

Fully agreed as of now Raira is front runner, what deal will he cut with raila? Raila certainly will want to settle the score with uhuru for the past, this makes uhurus position very weak, but uhuru knowing him wants still to play raira but this is where Ruto needs to undercut him, No problem Ruto can endorse baba for pork with him as still DP or back referendum he goes for PM. Ruto needs to UNDERCUT the drunkard i have a very a strong feeling Ruto will have last laugh, i dont mind now going back to 42vs1 ODM Uhuru has made a pact with the devil and he will face full consequences. Look at it this way what would make Kenyans very happy? Its  GEMA being in opposition for once.
You need your head recalibrated as now its upside down. Eti deal has been cut by powerful forces? The only powerful forces in Kenya are GEMA/Kalenjin masses. Eti lock Ruto up? IfRaila has never been locked up even after committing treason numerous times whim do youthink has the balls even to think that, you are under estimating what Ruto has in capabilities.
Title: Re: Political parties tribunal put a little spanner on road
Post by: RV Pundit on May 12, 2020, 04:50:22 PM
I am happy you're back. I was worried you were depressed. I have no problem with changing with times and that is why I never disappear like you. Now it obvious this war is on.
You should talk. As recently as two days ago you were talking about an elaborate clandestine plot by Ruto and Ouru against Raila despite being told to wake up and smell the proverbial coffee.
Title: Re: Political parties tribunal put a little spanner on road
Post by: Kichwa on May 12, 2020, 05:06:51 PM
Thanks for the warm well come. I only disappeared because I did not want to repeat myself over and over again. I had to wait until the evidence was overwhelming that Ruto was done so that we could have a more fruitful discussion about what the future holds.

I am happy you're back. I was worried you were depressed. I have no problem with changing with times and that is why I never disappear like you. Now it obvious this war is on.
You should talk. As recently as two days ago you were talking about an elaborate clandestine plot by Ruto and Ouru against Raila despite being told to wake up and smell the proverbial coffee.
Title: Re: Political parties tribunal put a little spanner on road
Post by: RV Pundit on May 12, 2020, 05:23:58 PM
True sage. You could predict it. It doesn't make sense what Uhuru is doing to me even now. I simply cannot understand why somebody would start a war like this. I don't know what his endgame
really is here. Because as far as I can see Raila is the beneficiary.

For me this like Moi in 2002 fishing Uhuru and killing KANU. Nobody has really ever understood what happened to MOI. Senility is the only plausible explanation. or GODs. Thank goodness it gave us NARC.

Who know - GEMA may finally get some little revolution going on - otherwise, they are going to pay back for all the evil done to Luos and Raila soon.

Ruto is gonna try save them from you but if they insist - I suspect he will join Raila and we finally get your PORK delivered in Bondo.

Thanks for the warm well come. I only disappeared because I did not want to repeat myself over and over again. I had to wait until the evidence was overwhelming that Ruto was done so that we could have a more fruitful discussion about what the future holds.
Title: Re: Political parties tribunal put a little spanner on road
Post by: Kichwa on May 12, 2020, 06:16:59 PM
 I have been trying to tell you that our neo-colonial benefactors were not happy with the constant 5 year post election shenanigan's.  The root cause of all that is that a huge vocal and section of Kenya was being rigged out. The politics of the "fake tyranny of rigged-numbers" was not working for everyone.  After 2017 shenanigans, they brokered a truce by offering both carrots and sticks to Ouru and RAO.  Ruto obviously was not pleased because he had been planning and plotting for the presidency through the same fake tyranny of rigged numbers that Ouru was negotiating away.  Our foreign partners were ecstatic when the handshake they had brokered worked like a miracle.  They are committed to it now more than ever and Ruto will literally have to start a civil war to derail it.  Ruto should therefore stand down.  Luos know better. They understand the economic and numerical power of both Kalenjins and Kikuyus. They just want to be part of a politically stable and prosperous Kenya where everyone feels as if they have a stake in the government. 

True sage. You could predict it. It doesn't make sense what Uhuru is doing to me even now. I simply cannot understand why somebody would start a war like this. I don't know what his endgame
really is here. Because as far as I can see Raila is the beneficiary.

For me this like Moi in 2002 fishing Uhuru and killing KANU. Nobody has really ever understood what happened to MOI. Senility is the only plausible explanation. or GODs. Thank goodness it gave us NARC.

Who know - GEMA may finally get some little revolution going on - otherwise, they are going to pay back for all the evil done to Luos and Raila soon.

Ruto is gonna try save them from you but if they insist - I suspect he will join Raila and we finally get your PORK delivered in Bondo.

Thanks for the warm well come. I only disappeared because I did not want to repeat myself over and over again. I had to wait until the evidence was overwhelming that Ruto was done so that we could have a more fruitful discussion about what the future holds.
Title: Re: Political parties tribunal put a little spanner on road
Post by: RV Pundit on May 12, 2020, 06:24:57 PM
Not so fast. Until we swear Ruto too as people president :). There cannot be any stability in Kenya. Anyway, the next two years are just going to be drama. And Kalenjin don't like being belittled - so Kenya is pretty going into civil war route. Not good ohho. I am going to downgrade my investment in Nairobi. I need to start building a base in South Rift - problem how do I move with wife and kids :). I need to invest in Uganda too.

Kenya ni drama tu. Ruto/RV last card will be to go for secession...while Raila card was People President. We soon have Rift valley Republic headed by WSR :) and then lots of sufferings and deaths.

I have been trying to tell you that our neo-colonial benefactors were not happy with the constant 5 year post election shenanigan's.  The root cause of all that is that a huge vocal and section of Kenya was being rigged out. The politics of the "fake tyranny of rigged-numbers" was not working for everyone.  After 2017 shenanigans, they brokered a truce by offering both carrots and sticks to Ouru and RAO.  Ruto obviously was not pleased because he had been planning and plotting for the presidency through the same fake tyranny of rigged numbers that Ouru was negotiating away.  Our foreign partners were ecstatic when the handshake they had brokered worked like a miracle.  They are committed to it now more than ever and Ruto will literally have to start a civil war to derail it.  Ruto should therefore stand down.  Luos know better. They understand the economic and numerical power of both Kalenjins and Kikuyus. They just want to be part of a politically stable and prosperous Kenya where everyone feels as if they have a stake in the government. 
Title: Re: Political parties tribunal put a little spanner on road
Post by: Njuri Ncheke on May 12, 2020, 06:26:55 PM
They just want to be part of a politically stable and prosperous Kenya where everyone feels as if they have a stake in the government. 
Gibberish even a std. 2 kid wont buy. Eti luos are just angels they just want a peaceful prosperous kenya woiyeee GUESS WHAT! We all want that but not with attempted coups(82)PEv(2007/2017) and countless civil unrest. You wonder why other luos (uganda, south sudan) all have had "peaceful and prosperous" periods while President. Its simple if raira would come in GEMA Would face the total wrath from 1963 we would pay dearly thats not even enough as all other kabilas coasterians, kalenjin luhya kamba somali etc would take their revenge upon us, place like mpeketoni would be overan, the addict doesn't think this. What an imbecile, kikuyus would be uprooted from all diaspora not just RV
Title: Re: Political parties tribunal put a little spanner on road
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on May 12, 2020, 07:27:15 PM
They just want to be part of a politically stable and prosperous Kenya where everyone feels as if they have a stake in the government. 
Gibberish even a std. 2 kid wont buy. Eti luos are just angels they just want a peaceful prosperous kenya woiyeee GUESS WHAT! We all want that but not with attempted coups(82)PEv(2007/2017) and countless civil unrest. You wonder why other luos (uganda, south sudan) all have had "peaceful and prosperous" periods while President. Its simple if raira would come in GEMA Would face the total wrath from 1963 we would pay dearly thats not even enough as all other kabilas coasterians, kalenjin luhya kamba somali etc would take their revenge upon us, place like mpeketoni would be overan, the addict doesn't think this. What an imbecile, kikuyus would be uprooted from all diaspora not just RV

Then you want to back BBI.  That way GEMA will be not have to worry about the savage tribes  :D.
Title: Re: Political parties tribunal put a little spanner on road
Post by: Garliv on May 12, 2020, 08:31:11 PM
1. Most likely the Tribunal will find a way of throwing back the arguments back to the combatants. Like ask Kositany to demand for NEC meeting to ratify or reject the KANU pact; that would be a smart way for the Tribunal to get itself out of it. In any case, Uhuru and his groups are not in the mood of following any laws/legislation or procedures. It's brute force.

2. Technically, nothing has changed. Only this time Uhuru is using State power to muscle out Murkomen and other parliamentary leaders not of his liking. I say so because the split between UHuru/Ruto has been so obvious for a while. The current ongoings confirm so.

3. As far as political ground support is concerned, nothing has changed. Ruto still has significant support plus Mt. Kenya is still with him. Even now the attitude is "Let Uhuru do what he wants, na sisi tutafanya venye tutafanya. Tuko na Ruto.." Thus basics remain unchanged.

4. Unless Raila/Uhuru group find a way of making sure Ruto is NOT on 2022 Ballot, the Hustler is STILL the front-runner.  The ONLY thing that can alter that fact is IF Uhuru/Raila groups amend the Constitution as per their BBI intentions. Especially under the current set up of President/Deputy, and it be Raila vs Ruto; BE ASSURED HUSTLER IS THE NEXT PRESIDENT.

5. But Ruto should be fearful. Very fearful. You see as i have stated before Uhuru group developed hatred/loathing for Ruto and they can do anything to make sure he doesn't become President. Then State House hired Mutahi Ngunyi as Political Advisor. This Mutahi Ngunyi character totally believes in Machiavelli political principles such as if you have your "enemy" on the run, NEVER show mercy until you have vanquished them in totality. He will be advising for much more bold moves.
And then there is Raila who also has some kind of personal issue with Ruto; heard him say in contempt how Ruto is a "disrespectful young man who should be taught some lessons..."  But more importantly bear in mind Raila is probably the BIGGEST BENEFICIARY of Jubilee internal warfare and its obvious he has ambition to be President (or PM) and Ruto is his CHIEF OPPONENT at the moment. In short, all these sharks are cycling to finish Ruto completely. It is not easy being WSR at the moment.

6. Very few people understand Uhuru gameplan here. He's solidifying his "brotherhood" with Raila, but to what end?
Title: Re: Political parties tribunal put a little spanner on road
Post by: RV Pundit on May 12, 2020, 08:43:01 PM
Very well said. Uhuru is very dangerous. All his life he has basically got his way. But Kenyattas has everything to lose if Ruto was to let the chips fall. So ultimately Mama Ngina as always will tame him. Nobody else.

What Uhuru has is power...what Ruto has is age...what Raila has is a 360 experiences (lose, win, tricked, rigged, lost, rigged, betrayed, name it)

Uhuru will become lame-duck soon and his power will slip - and he will become dangerous...as he sicks to stamp any such powers.

Ruto is very ambitious - and for him age is nothing. Ruto has wanted to be PORK or MOi right from the first trip when Moi picked UON CU students to trip to Japan.

Raila is obviously an old hand in this hand - but age is catching up fast. So for him, there are no rooms for a mistake.

So we have royal rumble.


 
1. Most likely the Tribunal will find a way of throwing back the arguments back to the combatants. Like ask Kositany to demand for NEC meeting to ratify or reject the KANU pact; that would be a smart way for the Tribunal to get itself out of it. In any case, Uhuru and his groups are not in the mood of following any laws/legislation or procedures. It's brute force.

2. Technically, nothing has changed. Only this time Uhuru is using State power to muscle out Murkomen and other parliamentary leaders not of his liking. I say so because the split between UHuru/Ruto has been so obvious for a while. The current ongoings confirm so.

3. As far as political ground support is concerned, nothing has changed. Ruto still has significant support plus Mt. Kenya is still with him. Even now the attitude is "Let Uhuru do what he wants, na sisi tutafanya venye tutafanya. Tuko na Ruto.." Thus basics remain unchanged.

4. Unless Raila/Uhuru group find a way of making sure Ruto is NOT on 2022 Ballot, the Hustler is STILL the front-runner.  The ONLY thing that can alter that fact is IF Uhuru/Raila groups amend the Constitution as per their BBI intentions. Especially under the current set up of President/Deputy, and it be Raila vs Ruto; BE ASSURED HUSTLER IS THE NEXT PRESIDENT.

5. But Ruto should be fearful. Very fearful. You see as i have stated before Uhuru group developed hatred/loathing for Ruto and they can do anything to make sure he doesn't become President. Then State House hired Mutahi Ngunyi as Political Advisor. This Mutahi Ngunyi character totally believes in Machiavelli political principles such as if you have your "enemy" on the run, NEVER show mercy until you have vanquished them in totality. He will be advising for much more bold moves.
And then there is Raila who also has some kind of personal issue with Ruto; heard him say in contempt how Ruto is a "disrespectful young man who should be taught some lessons..."  But more importantly bear in mind Raila is probably the BIGGEST BENEFICIARY of Jubilee internal warfare and its obvious he has ambition to be President (or PM) and Ruto is his CHIEF OPPONENT at the moment. In short, all these sharks are cycling to finish Ruto completely. It is not easy being WSR at the moment.

6. Very few people understand Uhuru gameplan here. He's solidifying his "brotherhood" with Raila, but to what end?
Title: Re: Political parties tribunal put a little spanner on road
Post by: Nefertiti on May 13, 2020, 10:48:22 AM
Robina, patel, pajero et al have been around- and accused us of being idle like yourself :) Many Tangatanga like vooke and GeeMail have gone underground as it becomes clear their clay idol is going nowhere. Garliv and Njuri Ncheke emerge from the sewer now and then... I suspect you Pundit may soon join them.

Raila is Kenya next PORK - take your meds.
It kichwa-talk. It will get very tiring. He uses to say that before 2013 white-wash. At least we are not dealing with Robina alone. Now all ODMs are going to crawl back and continue where they left. Omollo is coming online soon.
You need your head recalibrated as now its upside down. Eti deal has been cut by powerful forces? The only powerful forces in Kenya are GEMA/Kalenjin masses. Eti lock Ruto up? IfRaila has never been locked up even after committing treason numerous times whim do youthink has the balls even to think that, you are under estimating what Ruto has in capabilities.
Title: Re: Political parties tribunal put a little spanner on road
Post by: RV Pundit on May 13, 2020, 11:43:52 AM
Raila is the next PORK - we have heard that since 1996!!!
Robina, patel, pajero et al have been around- and accused us of being idle like yourself :) Many Tangatanga like vooke and GeeMail have gone underground as it becomes clear their clay idol is going nowhere. Garliv and Njuri Ncheke emerge from the sewer now and then... I suspect you Pundit may soon join them.

Raila is Kenya next PORK - take your meds.
Title: Re: Political parties tribunal put a little spanner on road
Post by: Njuri Ncheke on May 13, 2020, 02:17:36 PM
Many Tangatanga like vooke and GeeMail have gone underground as it becomes clear their clay idol is going nowhere. Garliv and Njuri Ncheke emerge from the sewer now and then... I suspect you Pundit may soon join them.



Please i just joined a few days ago and am just warming up. Once am done with you, you will be spinning one liners like pajero.