Chungwa House Update.
RESOLUTIONS;
1. ODM party to sign a post-poll deal with Jubilee party and KANU ahead of 2022 general election.
2. Hon John Mbadi to be made National Assembly Majority Leader
3. Two ODM Legislators and 2 Individuals( Seconded by the party ) to be appointed as Cabinet Secretaries and Principal Secretaries respectively in the Upcoming Cabinet reshuffle.
4. ODM participation in Kiambu By-Elections
Kiambu by-elections? Am not aware of this. Please update.
Uhuru will not be selling Raila or Gideon to GEMA.He just uses them to netralize Ruto.GEMA will have one of their own on the ballot.We are back to factory settings.
Chungwa House Update.
RESOLUTIONS;
1. ODM party to sign a post-poll deal with Jubilee party and KANU ahead of 2022 general election.
2. Hon John Mbadi to be made National Assembly Majority Leader
3. Two ODM Legislators and 2 Individuals( Seconded by the party ) to be appointed as Cabinet Secretaries and Principal Secretaries respectively in the Upcoming Cabinet reshuffle.
4. ODM participation in Kiambu By-Elections
More likely Raila will go for PORK with Uhuru-picked DP. Kalonzo, Mdvd, Gideon will be line up as non-existent PM and DPMs.
Kahawa Wendani I expect Jubilee to run with ODM backing.
If 2022 is between Raila vs Ruto then be guaranteed Hustler will beat RAO like a drum. He will bury him; totally.
Only option for Uhuru/Raila gameplan is amend constitution. Introduce such layers as PM and DPM. Then they will neutralize Hustler between now and in 2022. The current set up favours Ruto by far.
The very first post on this thread is a LIE by Tangatanga about ODM demands. As you can see Ruto has imaginary control of Jubilee, imaginary numbers in Senate, imaginary following on the ground in Central and elsewhere. GEMA will go where Uhuru tells them. Ruto is a Kalenjin alien nosing in GEMA business.
Here's Kimemia spelling it out for you:Mt Kenya governors back Tangatanga purge from JubileeIf 2022 is between Raila vs Ruto then be guaranteed Hustler will beat RAO like a drum. He will bury him; totally.
Only option for Uhuru/Raila gameplan is amend constitution. Introduce such layers as PM and DPM. Then they will neutralize Hustler between now and in 2022. The current set up favours Ruto by far.
We shall see. And when you analyse numbers at the Senate you realize Uhuru don't have/didn't have numbers. It's a question of brute force. So many Senators have been on media and social media saying they never attended any meeting. And it is verifiable that some of those listed as present were actually not there. Uhuru is a dangerous drunkard with state power; that is all giving him "success.."
NB: In addition Uhuru is doing whatever he's doing to provoke Ruto. So that if Ruto were to oppose anything then their claim of him (Ruto) undermining the president get traction.
And just remember Ruto was not doing anything different from what he was doing during their First term in office. He was still going round the country and preaching Jubilee gospel. But in the second term and after HANDSHAKE then Ruto was said to be "TangaTangaring" all over. If Uhuru was not intent on remaining in power, then the claim of Ruto undermining him would not arise. But now that he has intentions and schemes to remain in power then Ruto becomes a burden. That's what is cooking here...
Ruto broke the Cardinal Law of Power: never outshine the master. Worse he attempted to usurp Uhuru’s base through mlolongo, harambees and endless trips. Both are unforgivable sins. He was tolerated and made to feel anointed in Jubilee 1.0 only for the votes.
BBI is a flop so Uhuru is going home. He would not get any deal if Ruto controlled the ground - power concedes nothing. This is the correct move in GEMA interest. Ruto attempted to yoke GEMA as Raila has done the Luhya- he deserves all the bakoras he is getting. I told Pundit 2 years ago: Ruto will be hammered until he needs GEMA. It came to pass.
Please list the Senate PG attendants or absconders we debate. We see if they are 16/22 as Tangatanga claims. It is very easy to confirm online any denials and recants from both sides. Back Ruto numbers with verifiable facts.We shall see. And when you analyse numbers at the Senate you realize Uhuru don't have/didn't have numbers. It's a question of brute force. So many Senators have been on media and social media saying they never attended any meeting. And it is verifiable that some of those listed as present were actually not there. Uhuru is a dangerous drunkard with state power; that is all giving him "success.."
NB: In addition Uhuru is doing whatever he's doing to provoke Ruto. So that if Ruto were to oppose anything then their claim of him (Ruto) undermining the president get traction.
And just remember Ruto was not doing anything different from what he was doing during their First term in office. He was still going round the country and preaching Jubilee gospel. But in the second term and after HANDSHAKE then Ruto was said to be "TangaTangaring" all over. If Uhuru was not intent on remaining in power, then the claim of Ruto undermining him would not arise. But now that he has intentions and schemes to remain in power then Ruto becomes a burden. That's what is cooking here...
Uhuru despite all the puffing and huffing got 6 senators from central (one who is independent -kirinyanga) and one Embu - and Sakaja. In Gema, Ruto had Nakuru, Laikipia, Meru, and Tharaka. In all Uhuru had 7 elected senators. The rest were intimidated, nominated senators. That is how unpopular he is.
Uhuru has officially gone lame-duck - and now depend entirely on ODM goodwill - to get business done in parliament - because he has taken war to the majority of MPs and senators in Jubilee.
For anything to pass he will have to be doing a lot of heavy work.
In fact, at this point, he really has no option but forms a government of national unity, and let everyone eat. Ruto was willing to let him eat - as long as he didn't move the 2022 cheese - but now he has to create positions for KANU, MadDVD, Kalonzo, and Raila. And they now Uhuru is weakened - so they won't be soft on him.
Like I said - show EVIDENCE- of your innuendos. List the senators who attended or absconded- now you have new spin about intimidation. :) Everyone who backs Uhuru is intimidated :D This new lie is because the solid Uhuru numbers must be explained away.
How about you list the senators whose signatures were forged? 8) 8) You can’t cause it a lie. Nothing was forged. Anyone can shout anything but no proof - even Orengo says the court order was forged by Tangatanga. 8)
Scratch that- any link or evidence of Orange House resolutions you listed in this thread? Another fat lie as you attempt to save face and drive a wedge :D Raila has ejected Ruto and will not take your advice. Expect him to settle for 2 CS and few parastatal. Eyes firmly on the 2022 ball.
As you often advise me: leak your wounds quietly.
Uhuru has won a pyrrhic victory. He only had Sakaja outside the 5 jubilee GEMA senators he probably intimidated. The rest were nominated senators who have to toe the line or they will be fired. One of such is Milgo woman from Bomet.
The majority of senators, mps, mcas and Jubilee membership are stuck in jubilee with Ruto.
Essentially what Uhuru is doing is joining the opposition - and depending on their goodwill.
Right now he really has no option but forms a unity gov - Raila's 60mps are not enough - he needs the entire NASA 106 MPs to govern because Ruto's has 80% of Jubilee intact.
This is MAD - mutually assured destruction.
He just made the next 2yrs big battle for himself - inside of enjoying retirement.
Uhuru always had half the GEMA senators- Kang’ata, Ephraim Maina, Mwangi Githiomi- Nyandarua, Charles Kibiku- Kirinyaga. Why intimidate them and based on what? Loans? Wamatangi and Ndwiga attended Uhuru meeting to hang Murkomen. These are the quiet men who will not ship out to hustler movement.
Likes of Yusuf Haji and Fatuma Dullo of course back Uhuru. Not only Sakaja. You could always table the forged signatures we rebut- of course you quickly revise the white lie to intimidation. Even the 146 MPs who protested NMC changes cannot be listed in any reputable media but only River Road rags- cause half of them are MCA :D - and would debunk the spin.Uhuru has won a pyrrhic victory. He only had Sakaja outside the 5 jubilee GEMA senators he probably intimidated. The rest were nominated senators who have to toe the line or they will be fired. One of such is Milgo woman from Bomet.
The majority of senators, mps, mcas and Jubilee membership are stuck in jubilee with Ruto.
Essentially what Uhuru is doing is joining the opposition - and depending on their goodwill.
Right now he really has no option but forms a unity gov - Raila's 60mps are not enough - he needs the entire NASA 106 MPs to govern because Ruto's has 80% of Jubilee intact.
This is MAD - mutually assured destruction.
He just made the next 2yrs big battle for himself - inside of enjoying retirement.
Uhuru mistake was to trust a backstabber- and you keep asking why he is kicking Ruto. I don’t know if he has intimidated the nominated senators- that conjecture. What stop him from intimidating Milly Omanga who is Ruto noisemaker? What intimidated Wamatangi and Ndwiga? Now he has majority of GEMA senators- and you are waiting for them to follow hustler movement. If you look carefully at Ruto Mt Kenya followers - a place like Kiambu you will find only Ichung’wa and Kuria. Murang’a only Nyoro and Wahome. Nyeri only Gachagua. The rest of the quiet or “neutral” fence-sitters will stick with Uhuru as he drop the hammer. People follow strength and we are with Uhuru spin is dead.
Uhuru your former hero and “gentleman” :) - is not all that but is smart enough to know GEMA and his own interest. Ruto or Raila of course cannot represent GEMA or Uhuru interest. Raila is the anointed successor :D - the evidence is all over.
He is going to share 20% with NASA yes. Raila focus is 2022. That very fat reward for his support. Ruto made it impossible for Uhuru to trust him by usurping the ground and Parliament. Why would Ruto share anything when he has direct control? Your logic doesn’t add up. The deal will be made with Raila who cannot take the ground directly - or at least in theory.
It no-brainer you choose not to grasp.
He is going to share 20% with NASA yes. Raila focus is 2022. That very fat reward for his support. Ruto made it impossible for Uhuru to trust him by usurping the ground and Parliament. Why would Ruto share anything when he has direct control? Your logic doesn’t add up. The deal will be made with Raila who cannot take the ground directly - or at least in theory.
It no-brainer you choose not to grasp.
Usurping ground and parliament? I have heard this nonsense from Uhuru apologists and Raila fanatics that it get nauseous.
For one, Ruto behaved as he was behaving in their FIRST term. He still went round the country more than Uhuru did. He still reached out to others building potential alliances and it paid big time in 2017 elections. Uhuru got his second and final term.
Ruto still continued doing his thing and reaching out. Indeed as per Jubilee deal Uhuru would have had sufficient time to focus on EXECUTIVE issues and running the country while management of politics passed on to Ruto as heir-apparent. This was perfect. Indeed all what Uhuru should have done is to let all political players know he's out of politics and he will concentrate on Executive ruling; and that he will not support or campaign for anyone. That's all.
But NO; that's not what has transpired. Uhuru has gotten greedy and addicted to being President/powerful. He therefore team up with Raila/ODM and comes up with this crazy nonsense we are dealing with at the moment. Uhuru NOW finds Ruto as a threat or competitor because Uhuru does not want to RETIRE. He wants power beyond his two terms. And he cannot LIE again to Ruto since he would have no answer to the question; WHY abandon 10yrs 10 yrs deal NOW?
Ruto has usurp nothing. He is the wronged party.
NB: Am afraid violence worse than 2007/08 is now an imminent possibility. Uhuru wing of Jubilee and his henchmen are on suicidal mission: they will get rid of nominated Senators who failed to attend the meeting; then they are advanced schemes to haul into courts some prominent Ruto allies like Murkomen and others with tax issues and corruption allegations. They are turning into malicious with-hunting now. Some MPs in Mt. Kenya have had express threats if they do not stfu. This will not end well.
THINGS ARE ABOUT TO TAKE THEIR OWN MOMENTUM & LOGICHe is going to share 20% with NASA yes. Raila focus is 2022. That very fat reward for his support. Ruto made it impossible for Uhuru to trust him by usurping the ground and Parliament. Why would Ruto share anything when he has direct control? Your logic doesn’t add up. The deal will be made with Raila who cannot take the ground directly - or at least in theory.
It no-brainer you choose not to grasp.
Garliv you need to take those blinkers off. There is nothing bad if Ruto leads opposition for a few years. Even Uhuru was opposition leader. Ruto has been a freeloader always riding the system. He is entitled and throws tantrums when others don't acknowledge his birthright to be PORK. Ati rekindle war in RV - hehe - such modesty from people whining about party structure or tribunal being ignored. Music to Raila.
Ruto akunywe teargas kwanza. He is only 55 - he can take a stub at SH 4 or 5 times bila wasi wasi. Mzee Odinga is in. Poleni.
GEMA just needs a leader to coalesce around and Uhuru will be confined to Ichaweri where even Moses Kuria thinks he is a fool. Once GEMA have a rally cry - they will do the needful because what Uhuru is doing is hurting the nations, the economy, it's stability and it's future. Who the .f is going to invest now when the he has basically turned the chessboard upside down? Not local investors. Not foreign investors. Too much uncertainty like South Sudan...because Jubilee war won't end quickly.
Kalenjin nation was in a similar position (LUos are totally completely enslaved) and we fought back against Moi - so much having anything MOi in you - is one way not to get elected. I am thinking of going for Bomet Senatorship - and then face Moi's Salat - that is like a free ticket. Moi and kalenjin is like a bad word for entitlement.
You know leaders become so entitled - they start demanding their girlfriends, wives, uncles, name them - run the show.
And they start to imagine they are like royal family in England :) - with 2,000 yrs of historyUsurping ground and parliament? I have heard this nonsense from Uhuru apologists and Raila fanatics that it get nauseous.
For one, Ruto behaved as he was behaving in their FIRST term. He still went round the country more than Uhuru did. He still reached out to others building potential alliances and it paid big time in 2017 elections. Uhuru got his second and final term.
Ruto still continued doing his thing and reaching out. Indeed as per Jubilee deal Uhuru would have had sufficient time to focus on EXECUTIVE issues and running the country while management of politics passed on to Ruto as heir-apparent. This was perfect. Indeed all what Uhuru should have done is to let all political players know he's out of politics and he will concentrate on Executive ruling; and that he will not support or campaign for anyone. That's all.
But NO; that's not what has transpired. Uhuru has gotten greedy and addicted to being President/powerful. He therefore team up with Raila/ODM and comes up with this crazy nonsense we are dealing with at the moment. Uhuru NOW finds Ruto as a threat or competitor because Uhuru does not want to RETIRE. He wants power beyond his two terms. And he cannot LIE again to Ruto since he would have no answer to the question; WHY abandon 10yrs 10 yrs deal NOW?
Ruto has usurp nothing. He is the wronged party.
NB: Am afraid violence worse than 2007/08 is now an imminent possibility. Uhuru wing of Jubilee and his henchmen are on suicidal mission: they will get rid of nominated Senators who failed to attend the meeting; then they are advanced schemes to haul into courts some prominent Ruto allies like Murkomen and others with tax issues and corruption allegations. They are turning into malicious with-hunting now. Some MPs in Mt. Kenya have had express threats if they do not stfu. This will not end well.
THINGS ARE ABOUT TO TAKE THEIR OWN MOMENTUM & LOGICHe is going to share 20% with NASA yes. Raila focus is 2022. That very fat reward for his support. Ruto made it impossible for Uhuru to trust him by usurping the ground and Parliament. Why would Ruto share anything when he has direct control? Your logic doesn’t add up. The deal will be made with Raila who cannot take the ground directly - or at least in theory.
It no-brainer you choose not to grasp.
True. There is nothing wrong being in the Opposition. Actually it is noble when being in the opposition is used to check government excesses and offer alternative policies or ideas. vuta nikuvute of opposition and government is what has brought about loads of reforms without too much bloodletting or destruction.
Having said that, I have no problem with Ruto being in the opposition. The issue is how Uhuru/Raila combo are approaching the battle to beat Ruto. Especially Uhuru as President and use of state power/machinery to intimidate his opponents. This is what fight for reforms was all about...
Second, I also have no big deal with Uhuru BETRAYING Ruto. In politics, betrayal is almost assured like death and taxes! The problem is how he's doing it; brute force. This is retrogressive and shouldn't be supported by anyone. If Uhuru was to play politics and declare his support for Raila and abandon Ruto, then the voters would decide. That would be fine.Garliv you need to take those blinkers off. There is nothing bad if Ruto leads opposition for a few years. Even Uhuru was opposition leader. Ruto has been a freeloader always riding the system. He is entitled and throws tantrums when others don't acknowledge his birthright to be PORK. Ati rekindle war in RV - hehe - such modesty from people whining about party structure or tribunal being ignored. Music to Raila.
Ruto akunywe teargas kwanza. He is only 55 - he can take a stub at SH 4 or 5 times bila wasi wasi. Mzee Odinga is in. Poleni.
Yesterday, panic among Mt Kenya MPs was palpable as it became clear that Kenyatta was moving from mere threats.
“Please, as a friend, I don't want to comment on this. I am already in trouble [for skipping State House meeting] and I don't want to be in more problems. Most of us are in trouble. Please understand,” a Mount Kenya senator told the Star.
Just a few days ago, some of these lawmakers were getting bolder in attacking the President.
Yesterday, the panic-stricken senators were subdued, with the usual bravado gone. Senator Seneta said she was unwilling to comment.
Omanga said, “I have not received any letter. I have only seen people saying it on social media. I was never invited to the State House meeting so I don't know what to say."