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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: KenyanPlato on April 02, 2020, 06:59:21 PM
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Local materials they were cloud funded on facebook
I am impressed. I have seen kairu innovate like the genius he is
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10163389736000602&id=872445601&anchor_composer=false
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I have been following them. This is what mwafrika lacks. The ability to make things. We are only good in repairing broken things..but we are far from conceiving new products/services.
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They are quite gusty. I had been following Kairu and Eprahim Maina
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Now we have a working prototype for ventilator. This prototype is very simple, it's made from locally available materials. The prototype taught me very invaluable lessons. It provided a hands on crush course on manufacturing, now I know instinctively the pitfalls of manufacturing and assembling ventilators.
The next step is the most important. We now go high tech , we will use computer aided manufacturing. We will select the best designs from across the world and 3d print them. I already have 4 designs from Israel, Spain , Ireland and US.
These designs have already been approved in their country of jurisdiction. We will reproduce them here and send off the shelves products to the ministry of health here in Kenya for regulatory approval. We aim to do this in the next few days. We don't have the luxury of time.
We will need funds to do this so I need you to come up and support this cause in a big way.
Every so often we will regularly update to show how much money has been raised here . From experience from the prototype it cost 86k to make one ventilator.
We aim to make 100 3d printed ventilators in the next 3 to 5 days . So we need to raise 8m kshs . Support the cause paybill number 940750 account ventilator. We don't have the luxury of time , once a person falls seriously ill they need a breathing aid otherwise they die. Support the cause . Twende kazi.
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Now we have a working prototype for ventilator. This prototype is very simple, it's made from locally available materials. The prototype taught me very invaluable lessons. It provided a hands on crush course on manufacturing, now I know instinctively the pitfalls of manufacturing and assembling ventilators.
The next step is the most important. We now go high tech , we will use computer aided manufacturing. We will select the best designs from across the world and 3d print them. I already have 4 designs from Israel, Spain , Ireland and US.
These designs have already been approved in their country of jurisdiction. We will reproduce them here and send off the shelves products to the ministry of health here in Kenya for regulatory approval. We aim to do this in the next few days. We don't have the luxury of time.
We will need funds to do this so I need you to come up and support this cause in a big way.
Every so often we will regularly update to show how much money has been raised here . From experience from the prototype it cost 86k to make one ventilator.
We aim to make 100 3d printed ventilators in the next 3 to 5 days . So we need to raise 8m kshs . Support the cause paybill number 940750 account ventilator. We don't have the luxury of time , once a person falls seriously ill they need a breathing aid otherwise they die. Support the cause . Twende kazi.
I think they don't understand what a ventilator is. One of those machines costs 25K USD(I think now closer to 40K because of demand). The machines have very specific calibrations for the amount of oxygen and other components of air that go in. There is probably also a big deal of materials science that goes into that - not just the mechanics of inhaling and exhaling. How can this guy claim he now knows the ins and outs of ventilator manufacture after making what might not even get a pass as a high school project in Kenya?
I love his tinkering and curiosity though.
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Laud them for trying but they need to do lotsa research first and then work on perfecting it.
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they said this was a proof of concept. they claim to have designs that they will use that have been approved in EUROPE. Necessity is mother of invention. The way surgery was discovered and perfected was using crude methods in moments of crises. Most medicine emerges during war where you have to innovate on the go. I am with Kairu on this one. He actually was selling a weather preditions model that he invented to predict weather in Kenya using the public available satelite data.
I am not scientist so guys like this just make me amazed and the fact they are doing this with the limitation of technology and materials
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If it were maybe Europe or US (especially US), such innovation get partners, sponsors and funders plus marketers. And then it takes sometimes for it to be fine tuned and then hit the market including being exported. In Kenya such innovation efforts are of mild curiosity or amusement to many. Neither government or private sector would touch such. The guy needs supports, funds and relevant partners like engineers and manufacturers.
they said this was a proof of concept. they claim to have designs that they will use that have been approved in EUROPE. Necessity is mother of invention. The way surgery was discovered and perfected was using crude methods in moments of crises. Most medicine emerges during war where you have to innovate on the go. I am with Kairu on this one. He actually was selling a weather preditions model that he invented to predict weather in Kenya using the public available satelite data.
I am not scientist so guys like this just make me amazed and the fact they are doing this with the limitation of technology and materials
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they said this was a proof of concept. they claim to have designs that they will use that have been approved in EUROPE. Necessity is mother of invention. The way surgery was discovered and perfected was using crude methods in moments of crises. Most medicine emerges during war where you have to innovate on the go. I am with Kairu on this one. He actually was selling a weather preditions model that he invented to predict weather in Kenya using the public available satelite data.
I am not scientist so guys like this just make me amazed and the fact they are doing this with the limitation of technology and materials
That thing looks like a motor with mechanical attachments that allow it to push up and down on an air container. It's not really an invention. This doesn't mean it has no use, but I think it's far fetched to think it could perform the function of a ventilator. The bazungu don't need to approve anything for it to be good. They seem like tinkerers that could use a sponsor like someone mentioned.
I think Africa needs more folks like these guys.
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they said this was a proof of concept. they claim to have designs that they will use that have been approved in EUROPE. Necessity is mother of invention. The way surgery was discovered and perfected was using crude methods in moments of crises. Most medicine emerges during war where you have to innovate on the go. I am with Kairu on this one. He actually was selling a weather preditions model that he invented to predict weather in Kenya using the public available satelite data.
I am not scientist so guys like this just make me amazed and the fact they are doing this with the limitation of technology and materials
That thing looks like a motor with mechanical attachments that allow it to push up and down on an air container. It's not really an invention. This doesn't mean it has no use, but I think it's far fetched to think it could perform the function of a ventilator. The bazungu don't need to approve anything for it to be good. They seem like tinkerers that could use a sponsor like someone mentioned.
I think Africa needs more folks like these guys.
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it is an assembled prototype ..he was looking to make something that can be mass produced at a small cost .. If he can produce 100 of the for 80,000 that would be 800 a unit very much affordable and can save lives
I am donating because I believe we need to see something like this work
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https://www.facebook.com/samuel.kairu/videos/pcb.10163387477400602/10163387502205602/?type=3&theater
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https://www.facebook.com/samuel.kairu/videos/pcb.10163387477400602/10163387502205602/?type=3&theater (https://www.facebook.com/samuel.kairu/videos/pcb.10163387477400602/10163387502205602/?type=3&theater)
That thing won't work for someone who needs a ventilator. But with more power, it could form part of a handy pump for a well.
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They are not going to use that prototype. This was just saying hey we can doxthisxand this is the concept we think can work. Next is design something that can be produced and work and that meets kebs standards
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They are not going to use that prototype. This was just saying hey we can doxthisxand this is the concept we think can work. Next is design something that can be produced and work and that meets kebs standards
Assume the final product is out, more polished and portable. What problem would it be solving? It cannot be at the tail end of a covid-19 infection. At that point the patient's lungs are gone and he needs a ventilator. Would it be in the back of an ambulance? The bag looks like something I have seen paramedics use. I am thinking it might be useful, but for something unrelated to what is being touted.
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I think they don't understand what a ventilator is. One of those machines costs 25K USD(I think now closer to 40K because of demand).
Which nyang'au is upping the price of a ventilator at this time?
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I think they don't understand what a ventilator is. One of those machines costs 25K USD(I think now closer to 40K because of demand).
Which nyang'au is upping the price of a ventilator at this time?
Some manufacturers in the US. I saw that on one of governor Cuomo’s pressers. They were bidding state against state. Soulless ghouls.
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They are not going to use that prototype. This was just saying hey we can doxthisxand this is the concept we think can work. Next is design something that can be produced and work and that meets kebs standards
Assume the final product is out, more polished and portable. What problem would it be solving? It cannot be at the tail end of a covid-19 infection. At that point the patient's lungs are gone and he needs a ventilator. Would it be in the back of an ambulance? The bag looks like something I have seen paramedics use. I am thinking it might be useful, but for something unrelated to what is being touted.
They are promising ro produce 100 in a few weeks..it is a start even if the produce 5 and donate them it is a step forward
Donate $10 for heck of it..i am donating $100
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I'll chip in too. I found and interesting article about it after I read this thread. Apparently, it's not just Kenya: It's a world-wide effort. It's going on even in some prestigious Western universities. They may not replace ventilators but perhaps lessen the number of people who are utterly reliant on them 247? Idk. I'm intrigued and choosing to hope for the best.
https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20200401-covid-19-the-race-to-build-coronavirus-ventilators
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The guy is a tinkerer but he need more research and corraborate with people in medical field to understand the problem/requirements. The last thing you need is endangering people's lives.
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The guy is a tinkerer but he need more research and corraborate with people in medical field to understand the problem/requirements. The last thing you need is endangering people's lives.
he has a Biomedical engineer in his team. I have read their project proposal. They know what they are doing. They have really done their homework, All Kenyan engineers and Doctors are on their camp, that how they got funded for 98,000 with 24 hours. Kairu has proven to be a verstile kenyan own Dr Goddard of some sort, Kairu is like Pundit, he is very knowledgeable in all fields but very a political.
I am working day and night to get them funded. Please help. I have a go fund set up for them
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Why title the topic "two Kikuyu engineers ....."?
Were they educated with public funds only from Kikuyu masses? Better would have been "two Kenyan engineers ....". State their names and anyone who is interested in their ethnic background will be able to see it.
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Why title the topic "two Kikuyu engineers ....."?
Were they educated with public funds only from Kikuyu masses? Better would have been "two Kenyan engineers ....". State their names and anyone who is interested in their ethnic background will be able to see it.
Life is not that serious small bug
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It is. even a small ka-thing was used to create you.
Life is not that serious small bug
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They are not going to use that prototype. This was just saying hey we can doxthisxand this is the concept we think can work. Next is design something that can be produced and work and that meets kebs standards
Assume the final product is out, more polished and portable. What problem would it be solving? It cannot be at the tail end of a covid-19 infection. At that point the patient's lungs are gone and he needs a ventilator. Would it be in the back of an ambulance? The bag looks like something I have seen paramedics use. I am thinking it might be useful, but for something unrelated to what is being touted.
They are promising ro produce 100 in a few weeks..it is a start even if the produce 5 and donate them it is a step forward
Donate $10 for heck of it..i am donating $100
I like these engineers' curiosity and drive, even though you diligently refuse to answer my questions. In a more developed society they would be in a massively funded DARPA-like research environment but here they are running up and down just to find an air bag. Maybe they should hook up with Julius Mwale of Mwale Medical and Technology City https://www.facebook.com/MMTC2020/ :). He might figure a way to put whatever they come up with to use in his hospital.
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They are not going to use that prototype. This was just saying hey we can doxthisxand this is the concept we think can work. Next is design something that can be produced and work and that meets kebs standards
Assume the final product is out, more polished and portable. What problem would it be solving? It cannot be at the tail end of a covid-19 infection. At that point the patient's lungs are gone and he needs a ventilator. Would it be in the back of an ambulance? The bag looks like something I have seen paramedics use. I am thinking it might be useful, but for something unrelated to what is being touted.
You just one myopic person.
They are promising ro produce 100 in a few weeks..it is a start even if the produce 5 and donate them it is a step forward
Donate $10 for heck of it..i am donating $100
I like these engineers' curiosity and drive, even though you diligently refuse to answer my questions. In a more developed society they would be in a massively funded DARPA-like research environment but here they are running up and down just to find an air bag. Maybe they should hook up with Julius Mwale of Mwale Medical and Technology City https://www.facebook.com/MMTC2020/ :). He might figure a way to put whatever they come up with to use in his hospital.
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They should have stayed out of State House. They were doing well as a social enterprise. Mwafrika governments are vision killers. Though in a society with few opportunities people see governments as the best deal.
Mwale just like State House is a proven con, the hospital and ICU beds statistics had his 'medical city' nowhere.
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Negativos we are soldering on
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Updates
Here are parts the engineers have made
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https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10163404211930602&id=872445601
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Seems they made the right bet.
https://web.facebook.com/CSBettyMaina/posts/890753651364032?__cft__[0]=AZXDWS4tAFwfhukbZyq7_X_oOG_dxhj2SF1qZ-GeI4GBNgg3n2AiV2FeqcUbzlG1DA9PgNWzbUtT532ierJ2-uohJNesn5ZWbrK9KNh208BF_De7Ku_MEp_aEquoxJGVa4wCghMCZSPxtH8CvKk9MkmNSeAAtlvDnfqEnlGEOMc76gAtVdLvTNIIlOHL-hRKFvs&__tn__=%2CO%2CP-y-R
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Yes, this is benefit of having a man or woman from your tribe. Hopefully they can deliver and we move on to production
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Betty Maina is kalenjin - my clanswoman. All Maina, Chuma, Juma, Mwangi, Mwaingi, Maingi, Nyige - etc are Kalenjin names - that are exported to other tribes through circumcision.
AGE-SET NAMES
SEBEI
1. Maina Chumo Sowe Koronkoro Kwoimet Kaplelaich Nyikeao Nyonki
SABAOT (Book or Pok)
2. Sowo Maina Gabaiyak Korongoro Gamnenac Gamnyikewa Nyongiik
NANDI
3. Maina Juma Sawe Kipkoiimet Kaplelach Kimnyike Nyonge
4. Maina Juma Sawe Kipkoiimet Kaplelach Kimnyike Nyongi
5. Maina Chuma Sawe Kipkoimet Kaplelach Kimnyige Nyongi
6. Maina Chuma Sawe Kipkoimet Kaplelach Kimnyigei Nyongi
KIPSIGIS
7. Maina Chuma Sawe Kerongoro* Kablelach Kimnyige Nyonge
8. Maina Chuma Sawe* Kipkoymet Kablelach Kimnyige Nyonge
9. Maina Chuma Sawe Kipkoimet Kaplelach Kipnyige Nyongi
10. Maina Chumo Sawe Korongoro Kaplelach Kipnyige Nyongi
KEYO
11. Maina Chuma Sowe Korongoro Kipkoimet Kablelach Kimnyegeu Nyongi
12. Maina Chumo Sowi Korongoro Kipkoimet Kablalach Kimnyegeo Nyongi
13. Maina Chumo Sawe Korongoro Kipkoimet Kaplelach Kipnyigeu Nyongi
14. Maina Chumo Sawe Korongoro Kipkoimet Kablelech Kimnikeu Nyonki
15. Maina Juma Sawe Korongoro Kipkoimet Kablelach Kimnyige Nyonge
MARAKWET
16. Maina Chumo Sawe Korongoro Kipkoimet Kaplelach Kimnyigei Nyongi
17. Maina Chumo Sawe Korongoro Kaberur* Kablelech Kimnikeu Nyonki
TUGEN
18. Chumo Sawe Korongoro Kipkoimet Kablelech Kimnikeu Nyonki
19. Chumo Sowe Korongoro Kipkoimet Kablelach Kimnyegeo Nyongi
20. Chumo Sowe Korongoro Kipkoimet Kablelech Kimnikieu Nyongi
POKOT
21. Maina Jumo Sowa Karongoro Kip-koimet Kablelach Merkutwa Nyongu
22. Maina Juma Sowe Korongoro Kipkoimet Kaplelac Merkutua Nyongu
23. Maina Juma Sowa Korongoro Kablelach* Mergutwa Nyonge
24. Maina Chuma Sowe Kerongoro Kipkoymet* Merkutwa Nyonge
Bukusu copied word for word...just adding the Ba prefix
Bakolongolo, Bakikwameti, Bakananachi, Bakinyikewi, Banyange, Bamaina, Bachuma, Basawa
other circumscing luhyas copied directly Kolongolo, Kananachi, Kikwameti, Kinyikeu, Nyange, Maina, and Sawa in that order.
Gusii also copied word for word
Kikuyus did minor change
Irungu, Mwangi, Maina, Iregi, Ndemi, Mathathi and Ciira
Yes, this is benefit of having a man or woman from your tribe. Hopefully they can deliver and we move on to production
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How do you know it's not Kalenjin who copied?
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Kenyanplato, now you see the stupid thing of using people's ethnic in stating the subject of the conversations. Now instead of the product being discussed we have ended up discusing more about the origins of people's names.
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Coz Bantus didn't really circumcise and didn't really have age-set. Only the Kenyan Bantus ones bordering Kalenjin and okiek/dorobo do circumcise in near copy-paste way. Age-set is a military standing thing - that is mainly found in communities that had such cultures - principally Oromos and Kalenjin. Kalenjin probably copied circumcision from a kick or from Egypt...and age-set from Oromos. Oromos had 15 or large age-set - kalenjin have 7 - Maasai seem to have copied from Oromos - also Kikuyu seem to have copied a mix of dorobo and maasai version.
How do you know it's not Kalenjin who copied?
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Kenyanplato, now you see the stupid thing of using people's ethnic in stating the subject of the conversations. Now instead of the product being discussed we have ended up discusing more about the origins of people's names.
Pundit never wastes time to preach Kalenjin greatness :)
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It's not my problem that you have no tribal pride.
Pundit never wastes time to preach Kalenjin greatness :)
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I know - thus the compliment
It's not my problem that you have no tribal pride.
Pundit never wastes time to preach Kalenjin greatness :)
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Plato the gofundme is a good idea. I will throw in $100. First useful thing you have done here
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I would rather have he preaches about his personal greatness like the trees he is growing in Maasailand. What will happen to Kalejin greatness if his demi-god does not become PORK in 2022?
Pundit never wastes time to preach Kalenjin greatness :)
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Murkomen is ready to take the mantle.
I would rather have he preaches about his personal greatness like the trees he is growing in Maasailand. What will happen to Kalejin greatness if his demi-god does not become PORK in 2022?
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Murkomen is like the late Otieno Kajwang, a good court poet. Nothing more.
Murkomen is ready to take the mantle.
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You're such a bad judge of character. Murkomen and Kericho senator are intelligent and have leadership potential. Those I see as the future of Kalenjin. The same way I saw Ruto in 2001 and told my friend to watch him out.
Murkomen is like the late Otieno Kajwang, a good court poet. Nothing more.
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Betty Maina is kalenjin - my clanswoman. All Maina, Chuma, Juma, Mwangi, Mwaingi, Maingi, Nyige - etc are Kalenjin names - that are exported to other tribes through circumcision.
AGE-SET NAMES
SEBEI
1. Maina Chumo Sowe Koronkoro Kwoimet Kaplelaich Nyikeao Nyonki
SABAOT (Book or Pok)
2. Sowo Maina Gabaiyak Korongoro Gamnenac Gamnyikewa Nyongiik
NANDI
3. Maina Juma Sawe Kipkoiimet Kaplelach Kimnyike Nyonge
4. Maina Juma Sawe Kipkoiimet Kaplelach Kimnyike Nyongi
5. Maina Chuma Sawe Kipkoimet Kaplelach Kimnyige Nyongi
6. Maina Chuma Sawe Kipkoimet Kaplelach Kimnyigei Nyongi
KIPSIGIS
7. Maina Chuma Sawe Kerongoro* Kablelach Kimnyige Nyonge
8. Maina Chuma Sawe* Kipkoymet Kablelach Kimnyige Nyonge
9. Maina Chuma Sawe Kipkoimet Kaplelach Kipnyige Nyongi
10. Maina Chumo Sawe Korongoro Kaplelach Kipnyige Nyongi
KEYO
11. Maina Chuma Sowe Korongoro Kipkoimet Kablelach Kimnyegeu Nyongi
12. Maina Chumo Sowi Korongoro Kipkoimet Kablalach Kimnyegeo Nyongi
13. Maina Chumo Sawe Korongoro Kipkoimet Kaplelach Kipnyigeu Nyongi
14. Maina Chumo Sawe Korongoro Kipkoimet Kablelech Kimnikeu Nyonki
15. Maina Juma Sawe Korongoro Kipkoimet Kablelach Kimnyige Nyonge
MARAKWET
16. Maina Chumo Sawe Korongoro Kipkoimet Kaplelach Kimnyigei Nyongi
17. Maina Chumo Sawe Korongoro Kaberur* Kablelech Kimnikeu Nyonki
TUGEN
18. Chumo Sawe Korongoro Kipkoimet Kablelech Kimnikeu Nyonki
19. Chumo Sowe Korongoro Kipkoimet Kablelach Kimnyegeo Nyongi
20. Chumo Sowe Korongoro Kipkoimet Kablelech Kimnikieu Nyongi
POKOT
21. Maina Jumo Sowa Karongoro Kip-koimet Kablelach Merkutwa Nyongu
22. Maina Juma Sowe Korongoro Kipkoimet Kaplelac Merkutua Nyongu
23. Maina Juma Sowa Korongoro Kablelach* Mergutwa Nyonge
24. Maina Chuma Sowe Kerongoro Kipkoymet* Merkutwa Nyonge
Bukusu copied word for word...just adding the Ba prefix
Bakolongolo, Bakikwameti, Bakananachi, Bakinyikewi, Banyange, Bamaina, Bachuma, Basawa
other circumscing luhyas copied directly Kolongolo, Kananachi, Kikwameti, Kinyikeu, Nyange, Maina, and Sawa in that order.
Gusii also copied word for word
Kikuyus did minor change
Irungu, Mwangi, Maina, Iregi, Ndemi, Mathathi and Ciira
Yes, this is benefit of having a man or woman from your tribe. Hopefully they can deliver and we move on to production
I am surprised Mwangi is one of those. I can't think of a more Kikuyu sounding name except maybe Mwaura. Maina, yes that one is pretty common.