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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: RV Pundit on March 29, 2020, 11:01:42 AM
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https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/article/2001366071/how-politicians-mutilated-the-constitution-for-personal-gains
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I understand enough about Kenya simple politics. You got hubris. You can't morph into a patriot only cause Ruto is on the losing end.
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A quick read confirms the 1964 overhaul was way bigger than now at peacetime. You been denying this. I know particularly Uhuru is seeking a second bite at the apple but Raila wants parliamentary and to grace SH before he is kaput - so their interests are aligned. Ruto of course feels entitled to the imperial presidency. RV Pundit wants Ruto to win for selfish personal and tribal reasons :)
To us - Uhuru and Raila are merely atoning sins of their fathers.
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Yes - and new constitution cures that - by making the amendment of katiba such a hassle. We are now believe it 10yrs - and new katiba - has no extra comma or full stop added. The old one was mutilated like a year after Lancaster.
The hurdles you have to jump to amend the katiba - including corona virus :)
A quick read confirms the 1964 overhaul was way bigger than now at peacetime. You been denying this. I know particularly Uhuru is seeking a second bite at the apple but Raila wants parliamentary and to grace SH before he is kaput - so their interests are aligned. Ruto of course feels entitled to the imperial presidency. RV Pundit wants Ruto to win for selfish personal and tribal reasons :)
To us - Uhuru and Raila are merely atoning sins of their fathers.
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Ruto is HIV+ and at high covid19 risk of death. He can only do twitter now. He is in voluntary quarantine.
Looks like Kagwe might steal the ball from Kiunjuri in Nyeri & Mt Kenya West. Tangatanga main vision and selling point is makelele, omnipresence and propaganda - as they have replaced Raila in opposition mantle - all of which the outbreak has made impossible. Even chattering about it gets you arrested. Only Uhuru and Kagwe are visible.
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Here's your tribal mentor on Ruto chances with corona
Mutahi Ngunyi says COVID-19 has forced Ruto into political quarantine
https://www.tuko.co.ke/346653-mutahi-ngunyi-covid-19-forced-ruto-political-quarantine.html
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You lost me. Such a nerd. Ruto has left Uhuru to clean up is mess and is the CHANGE candidate for 2022. Raila is the system candidate. :) :) :) life is unfair.
Ruto is HIV+ and at high covid19 risk of death. He can only do twitter now. He is in voluntary quarantine.
Looks like Kagwe might steal the ball from Kiunjuri in Nyeri & Mt Kenya East. Tangatanga main vision and selling point is makelele, omnipresence and propaganda - as they have replaced Raila in opposition mantle - all of which the outbreak has made impossible. Even chattering about it gets you arrested. Only Uhuru and Kagwe are visible.
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Ruto is best advised to stay AWAY from this mess. The economy will collapse. Let Uhuru, Kibicho and Matiangi do the clean up. Ruto should run as opposition candidate :) as Raila is the system man :) :). Officially there is nothing to be eaten...the next gov payroll will be sweat and tears.
Jubilee mps interested in 2022 - should offload this to ODM - who are desperate to be seen as part of gov anyway.
Blame COVID on Uhuru and Matiangi - and blame them for shafting Ruto who would have blocked COVID :) :)
Here's your tribal mentor on Ruto chances with corona
Mutahi Ngunyi says COVID-19 has forced Ruto into political quarantine
https://www.tuko.co.ke/346653-mutahi-ngunyi-covid-19-forced-ruto-political-quarantine.html
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Kenya with minimal deaths will see Kagwe as new hero. With mzungu dying in droves. What exactly will Ruto preach as change? - fighting corruption? Roads? Dams? What?
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You're really thick headed. You think the deaths are not coming. Wait for another 2-3 weeks.
Kenya with minimal deaths will see Kagwe as new hero. With mzungu dying in droves. What exactly will Ruto preach as change? - fighting corruption? Roads? Dams? What?
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The deaths will come but nowhere near mzungu level. Cause the poorer the less foreign travel. Also the other mitigating factors - fewer wazee who live in the sparse rural areas. This explains skyrocketing deaths in US and Europe - yet the scorge started in faraway Wuhan - almost equidistant from Africa.
Of course a fool like you think Uhuru or Kibicho is hiding the dead in some dungeon. Your "brilliance" start and end with tribal excel sheet.
You're really thick headed. You think the deaths are not coming. Wait for another 2-3 weeks.
Kenya with minimal deaths will see Kagwe as new hero. With mzungu dying in droves. What exactly will Ruto preach as change? - fighting corruption? Roads? Dams? What?
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Ruto must be aching with news - am sure he would be tweeting frequent updates as he does with investigations - too bad it illegal. Uhuru and Kagwe literally have the podium to themselves.
Dagorretti South MP John Kiarie grilled over claims on coronavirus numbers
https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/article/2001366148/mp-john-kiarie-grilled-over-claims-on-coronavirus-numbers
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Pray for kenya.
The deaths will come but nowhere near mzungu level. Cause the poorer the less foreign travel. Also the other mitigating factors - fewer wazee who live in the sparse rural areas. This explains skyrocketing deaths in US and Europe - yet the scorge started in faraway Wuhan - almost equidistant from Africa.
Of course a fool like you think Uhuru or Kibicho is hiding the dead in some dungeon. Your "brilliance" start and end with tribal excel sheet.
You're really thick headed. You think the deaths are not coming. Wait for another 2-3 weeks.
Kenya with minimal deaths will see Kagwe as new hero. With mzungu dying in droves. What exactly will Ruto preach as change? - fighting corruption? Roads? Dams? What?
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Robina
Kagwe is an arse hole worse than pk
He is there to rescue michuki crumbling empire
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Kagwe is stealing the show as Kiunjuri is muzzled by corona. Ruto and Tangatanga sell omnipresence which is effectively dead now. Uhuru has a full-time ad on all channels and papers
(https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/images/monday/2020_03_30_paper.png)
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Its still a show until people start dropping dead.The guy has suddenly stolen Matiangi limelight. He is a media practitioner and is compassionate.
Kagwe is stealing the show as Kiunjuri is muzzled by corona. Ruto and Tangatanga sell omnipresence which is effectively dead now. Uhuru has a full-time ad on all channels and papers
(https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/images/monday/2020_03_30_paper.png)
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Corpses will pop up starting next week. Don't be too sure about the political outcome.
Its still a show until people start dropping dead.
Kagwe is stealing the show as Kiunjuri is muzzled by corona. Ruto and Tangatanga sell omnipresence which is effectively dead now. Uhuru has a full-time ad on all channels and papers
(https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/images/monday/2020_03_30_paper.png)
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Its you who brought politics. Mutahi has the worst job - this is not good news. Even Matiangi has run from it. Ruto is hiding. Raila is hiding.
Corpses will pop up starting next week. Don't be too sure about the political outcome.
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They are "hiding" because they have no choice. No source of info and it de facto illegal to publish misleading news.
Uhuru and Kagwe have a blank slate - they can turn into heroes or villains depending on the outcome. If folks die in 000's ala Europe - then they are buried in the rubble. They nick it in the bud - with only few dozen dead - they get a crown.
Yattani and crew should be working the phone all hours now seeking aid in cash, ventilators, chloroquine, name it.
Its you who brought politics. Mutahi has the worst job - this is not good news. Even Matiangi has run from it. Ruto is hiding. Raila is hiding.
Corpses will pop up starting next week. Don't be too sure about the political outcome.
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You're thick-headed - if Europe cannot handle this - Kenya that has 150 ICUS - with about 5 COVID-19 ready. Just wait for many burials. Uhuru will be blamed for allowing Chinese and foreigners to bring death.
If you see everyone running - run too. When deal is too good - think twice.
Kagwe can talk all day - but if he is not breathing oxygen into the struggling lungs of dying kenyans - he better start shutting up and giving false hope.
They are "hiding" because they have no choice. No source of info and it de facto illegal to publish misleading news.
Uhuru and Kagwe have a blank slate - they can turn into heroes or villains depending on the outcome. If folks die in 000's ala Europe - then they are buried in the rubble. They nick it in the bud - with only few dozen dead - they get a crown.
Yattani and crew should be working the phone all hours now seeking aid in cash, ventilators, chloroquine, name it.
Its you who brought politics. Mutahi has the worst job - this is not good news. Even Matiangi has run from it. Ruto is hiding. Raila is hiding.
Corpses will pop up starting next week. Don't be too sure about the political outcome.
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Mboss this is not MOAS - it depends how it is handled. Kenya you had a heads-up unlike Europe and here in US. First death last week means no real old infections... unless everyone is immune. Mwafrika nywele ngumu has big advantage healthwise - which Uhuru will milk as great leadership. It depends on chance more than preparedness - I told you the mitigating factors - else you can't explain why the deaths have been minimal in Sub Sahara. Keep the partial lockdown in place and beg Xi and IMF for aid pronto. It not rocket science but life and death - don't conflate risk with complexity - the typical bimbo that you are.
You're thick-headed - if Europe cannot handle this - Kenya that has 150 ICUS - with about 5 COVID-19 ready. Just wait for many burials. Uhuru will be blamed for allowing Chinese and foreigners to bring death.
If you see everyone running - run too. When deal is too good - think twice.
They are "hiding" because they have no choice. No source of info and it de facto illegal to publish misleading news.
Uhuru and Kagwe have a blank slate - they can turn into heroes or villains depending on the outcome. If folks die in 000's ala Europe - then they are buried in the rubble. They nick it in the bud - with only few dozen dead - they get a crown.
Yattani and crew should be working the phone all hours now seeking aid in cash, ventilators, chloroquine, name it.
Its you who brought politics. Mutahi has the worst job - this is not good news. Even Matiangi has run from it. Ruto is hiding. Raila is hiding.
Corpses will pop up starting next week. Don't be too sure about the political outcome.
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Africa has least travelled people - you can check the planes on the sky on free apps - that bought it time - but now - the numbers are rising - Africans have nearly zero health care system - I think the deaths are coming. This is not easy win thing. We might be seeing another 4-6 months. If Italy is crying - what about Kenya.
You're just desperate becoz of politics.
Gov is claiming about 5000 - by mid April - that I think is a joke - it will be 50-100K.
Mboss this is not MOAS - it depends how it is handled. Kenya you had a heads-up unlike Europe and here in US. First death last week means no real old infections... unless everyone is immune. Mwafrika nywele ngumu has big advantage healthwise - which Uhuru will milk as great leadership. It depends on chance more than preparedness - I told you the mitigating factors - else you can't explain why the deaths have been minimal in Sub Sahara. Keep the partial lockdown in place and beg Xi and IMF for aid pronto. It not rocket science but life and death - don't conflate risk with complexity - the typical bimbo that you are.
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An outbreak US or Italy- style would sink Kenya. I am betting there won't be one because schools, churches, parties were curtailed and now curfews in good time. Restrictions started 2 weeks ago - death occured a week ago - meaning few or just the 50 sick had been infected by the time GoK swang into action.
Now - as GoK tightens the noose - the biggest danger is public disorder as poor folks defy curfew or lockdown to look for food. That should be Uhuru no 1 focus - how to sustain the restrictions for the urban poor. Because he cannot manufacture ICUs or ventilators - lockdown and quarantine are his big levers.
It depends on ACTIONS - massive deaths can be avoided. The politics is likely to follow the outcome. Uhuru and Kagwe will be big heroes or villains soon. Kiunjuri and Ruto fate depends on the former duo's performance.
Africa has least travelled people - you can check the planes on the sky on free apps - that bought it time - but now - the numbers are rising - Africans have nearly zero health care system - I think the deaths are coming. This is not easy win thing. We might be seeing another 4-6 months. If Italy is crying - what about Kenya.
You're just desperate becoz of politics.
Gov is claiming about 5000 - by mid April - that I think is a joke - it will be 50-100K.
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The tiny middle class are adhering to it..but only for few weeks..before the prospect of losing jobs..forces them to join lower class...in opening their side hustles. Only GOD and maybe climate will help us...but we are entering our winter..long rain seasons start now till Sept.Kenya flu seasons is about to start as it ends in Europe. The omens are bad. Watu watakufa. ICUs hakuna..10 in Nairobi hospitals..already the first death happen in ICU in AghaKhan. This is a doomsday scenario. Dont talk about rural-urban migration. I think I need to escape back to Europe soon.
An outbreak US or Italy- style would sink Kenya. I am betting there won't be one because schools, churches, parties were curtailed and now curfews in good time. Restrictions started 2 weeks ago - death occured a week ago - meaning few or just the 50 sick had been infected by the time GoK swang into action.
Now - as GoK tightens the noose - the biggest danger is public disorder as poor folks defy curfew or lockdown to look for food. That should be Uhuru no 1 focus - how to sustain the restrictions for the urban poor. Because he cannot manufacture ICUs or ventilators - lockdown and quarantine are his big levers.
It depends on ACTIONS - massive deaths can be avoided. The politics is likely to follow the outcome. Uhuru and Kagwe will be big heroes or villains soon. Kiunjuri and Ruto fate depends on the former duo's performance.
Africa has least travelled people - you can check the planes on the sky on free apps - that bought it time - but now - the numbers are rising - Africans have nearly zero health care system - I think the deaths are coming. This is not easy win thing. We might be seeing another 4-6 months. If Italy is crying - what about Kenya.
You're just desperate becoz of politics.
Gov is claiming about 5000 - by mid April - that I think is a joke - it will be 50-100K.
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You are a real gloomster - like Dr Doom you demonized for years. Prompt action especially FOOD for poor folks in towns can make a big difference. I think if you have door-to-door food like Rwanda - you can firmly enforce lockdown and noone will riot. Noone wants to die if they can get fed.
Lazy Uhuru need good advice about now. And not from Ruto the Regular Joe or Raila.
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Most vulnerable in Kenya are those diabetics, cancer, HIV/AIDS (though some hiv drugs are said to help) TB and Pneumonia. And of course those Wazees approaching 70s, 80s and 90s. Hard to estimate their percentage given that most Kenya's statistics have huge error margin. But even among them, i do not expect their deaths to be not more than 2% for those who will be "hit hard..." yaani wenye watawezwa.
Then Kagwe CS can keep on announcing the daily tally but the question that need to be investigated is not. That is, what is the health status of those who are positive? How many need hospitalization? What medicine/therapy are they being given and what are their chances? They are so many unknowns here.
Kagwe as some kind of Hero of BBI/Uhuru/Raila grouping is just assuming too much. Politically he is not anywhere. The visibility is giving him platform to show what's he's made of. And it depends on how this Coronavirus turns out.
More importantly it looks like the government wants to do a total lockdown. Chiefs and provincial administration have been collecting data on ration to be provided per location. This will be bad news. Very bad news. Corona or no Corona total lockdown will almost immediately lead to civil disobedience. Right now economic hardships are setting in even to "middle class" who are normally one paycheck away to financial collapse. Few more days and people will rebel. Nairobi gangs will get worse and crime will soar.
That's when Huslter's silence will be seen as golden.
Hard choices ahead.
They are "hiding" because they have no choice. No source of info and it de facto illegal to publish misleading news.
Uhuru and Kagwe have a blank slate - they can turn into heroes or villains depending on the outcome. If folks die in 000's ala Europe - then they are buried in the rubble. They nick it in the bud - with only few dozen dead - they get a crown.
Yattani and crew should be working the phone all hours now seeking aid in cash, ventilators, chloroquine, name it.
Its you who brought politics. Mutahi has the worst job - this is not good news. Even Matiangi has run from it. Ruto is hiding. Raila is hiding.
Corpses will pop up starting next week. Don't be too sure about the political outcome.
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Noone in upcountry or Lavington needs food rations - but urban poor (Eastlands, etc) and slums in most towns. Lavington or Karen can stock up Weetabix and frozen beef for months. I don't imagine people are simply indisciplined or disobedient but are too broke to stay home. Makanga, hawkers, mjengo, etc live hand to mouth. Give them biweekly rations and lock down the country... BAN cars and matatu on the roads. A % of the infected will definitely die so stop the infections.
So I think Uhuru should be scraping and begging for food money right now. This BIG 0 AGENDA formally excuse him from election promises or legacy crap. He got some millions $$ recently from IMF if am not wrong. Your lockdown 411 is good news.
Kagwe has been Nyeri MP and CS under Kibaki, then senator before this. The recent disproportionate tribal Kikuyu appointments to GoK are very political to assuage Mt Kenya. Corona is a double-edged sword for Kagwe and Uhuru - and by extension for Kiunjuri and Ruto.
Most vulnerable in Kenya are those diabetics, cancer, HIV/AIDS (though some hiv drugs are said to help) TB and Pneumonia. And of course those Wazees approaching 70s, 80s and 90s. Hard to estimate their percentage given that most Kenya's statistics have huge error margin. But even among them, i do not expect their deaths to be not more than 2% for those who will be "hit hard..." yaani wenye watawezwa.
Then Kagwe CS can keep on announcing the daily tally but the question that need to be investigated is not. That is, what is the health status of those who are positive? How many need hospitalization? What medicine/therapy are they being given and what are their chances? They are so many unknowns here.
Kagwe as some kind of Hero of BBI/Uhuru/Raila grouping is just assuming too much. Politically he is not anywhere. The visibility is giving him platform to show what's he's made of. And it depends on how this Coronavirus turns out.
More importantly it looks like the government wants to do a total lockdown. Chiefs and provincial administration have been collecting data on ration to be provided per location. This will be bad news. Very bad news. Corona or no Corona total lockdown will almost immediately lead to civil disobedience. Right now economic hardships are setting in even to "middle class" who are normally one paycheck away to financial collapse. Few more days and people will rebel. Nairobi gangs will get worse and crime will soar.
That's when Huslter's silence will be seen as golden.
Hard choices ahead.
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The greatest fear for Kenyans who live from hand to mouth
https://www.nation.co.ke/news/Covid-19-greatest-fear-Kenyans-who-live-from-hand-to-mouth/1056-5509430-84ak5wz/index.html